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nenestansunsthings · 10 months
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hi guys. guess who spent several hours trying to figure out singable english translyrics from deep cover with only potentially inaccurate rough translations! im going to cry when the official translations come out and deeply fuck my translyrics
anyway sorry about the self hate im pretty sure youre trying to repress kotoko i wrote all the lyrics like youre talking about aspects of yourself you hate And Also The Prisoners
depending on connections that're worthless searching for warmth, a goal so vile and shameless— it's stupid, right? stupid, right? hey you're such an ass, a vicious ass, you know? you're so lame! it'll never change, but play like you're the ruler no-one is saved by this value stealer— it's stupid, right? stupid, right? hey but still "i like you", oh, "i like you"— what a pain! what don't you or this world need? i take them all on, the guilty! that's why i chose to be the fangs you bare at them all! for the hero i had craved, i'll make them fall! i've carved the answer into bones and blood "no, just stop"? but why stop? why call off the hunt? i can't be stopped! i want a reason! give me reason to bring justice down i need, i need you to give me the next hope, the next dream hiding from truth, somebody thrives, gilded and greedy but nothing stops this enduring faith, unyielding and mighty it's stupid, right? stupid, right? hey you say you can't recall, can't recall? so dull, hey imprisoned here, so unusable, in memories your verdict sways— do you call this farce just? please! it's stupid, right? stupid, right? hey i'll knock and break this door away! that's why i made you into the reason i fight at all! call them guilty, show them they're unforgivable pity only turns into an obstacle judge the evil, and hate that they're evil no, i can't stop! i want a reason! give me reason to bring justice down i need, i need you to give me the next hope, the next dream under, under i want to live to bring the justice i craved i want to crush this future that rots away it's stupid, right? stupid, right? hey, just trust me with it all that's why i am the fangs you bare at all for the hero i had craved, i'll make them fall i've carved the answer into bones and blood "no, just stop"? but why stop? why call off the hunt? i can't be stopped! i want a reason! give me reason to bring justice down i need, i need you to give me the next hope, the next dream i need, i need you to give me the next hope, the next dream not worth his life is 01, the parasite shameful and vile is 02, the whore, and too shit to change, is 04, the fake queen unsaveable is 05, dissector so quick to hide, is 07, liar unusable is 11, the warden— it's stupid, right? stupid, right? hey will you all stay behind, stay behind? you damn pains!
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harusaku001 · 5 months
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OK TRANSLATION HELP
so im working on a milgram translation project with my friend (not on tumblr) and we need to get translations of shidou's triage phone calls. the only thing we have is "hello, this is kirisaki" so if needed PLEASE do send
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good-beanswrites · 1 year
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My english lyrics for Triage woo! (They're written out under the cut, I just wanted to share my lil chart lol)
Though I'm too indecisive to officially label this as my favorite song, it's had the strongest emotional impact on me by far. It holds a special place in my heart, I definitely wanted to write lyrics for it first! I'll leave all my rambling process commentary in the tags, but I was so happy with how it came out!!
All of those cards of promise thrown down carelessly,
This must be retribution for all I've taken endlessly.
If that were the case, it should have been fate for me to die.
That's the truth, given my crime, so why--?
No, I can't take it, to this cruel joke I'll submit. You
don't know, you can't know, but I'm ready to admit:
Killing for them, extracting for them, won't change the fact they're dead.
I need someone to tag me as RED.
It makes me sick (sick), it's too unpleasant. Sick (sick)
Is this punishment? What do you mean I'm INNOCENT?
I see, the world is cruel and leaves you on your own.
(I can't die) to atone. (I can't love) alone.
I can't be saved (saved), you've nothing to give. Saved (saved)
But what if I lived? Why else would you choose to forgive?
I see, there's lives to save so let's be sensible.
Right now, you need me, (I can be) indispensable.
Tilt to and fro, I know the scales should land on GUILTY for me.
Tilt fro and to, it's INNOCENT that they choose.
They cry (x4) out in pain, I can hear them. There's no one else, to guard their health,
My mission is offering help.
All of those cards of promise thrown down carelessly,
This must be retribution for all I've taken endlessly.
So if that's the case, then it must be fate to make amends,
Extract that fang before we meet the end.
It makes me sick (sick), it's too unpleasant. Sick (sick)
Is this punishment? What do you mean I'm INNOCENT?
I see, the world is cruel, but what I've realized is
(Now I want) to be INNOCENT. (Now I want) to live.
It makes me sick (sick), This wasn't my plan, hostages at my command.
Their future resting in my hands
I see, there's lives to save so let's be sensible.
Right now, please save me, (I will be) indispensable.
Maybe this was meant to be -- oh  -- or maybe neither of us can know
There's lives to save so let's be sensible.
Right now, please save me, (I will be) indispensable.
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I mentioned earlier that I always get annoyed with myself when people post translyrics and I can't figure out the rhythm they were going for, so here's a recording of me singing, but I'm bad at it! It's just for fun! Like a rough draft for music! Because the only thing worse than people hearing my voice is people thinking I can't count syllables!
#milgram#shidou kirisaki#lyrics#im real happy with how they came out :))#when i first got into milgram i started writing tear drop lyrics but got discouraged#(ill be revisiting them next but) it was so fun to work with this song!#i love the sound of it and had a great time creating my version#i wanted his repeated lines in the refrain to have a punch to them#and was SO satisfied giving the doctor 'sick' and 'saved' as his focus words#the mention of 'throw down' wasnt originally intended but it fit so well i just had to keep it asdfsd#i looked up an internet translation for 'Shinenai sentaku o ikenai ai o' because the official english line confused me#and it gave me 'i cant die. i cant go. i cant love.' and i loved that more than the official translation actually#really the only word that doesnt flow quite like id want is 'punishment' but the meaning/rhyme made me happy so i kept it haha#nothing can replace the sound satisfaction 'Yurayura tenbin yurusa naide hoshii noni/Yureteru yurushite hoshii to' gives me tho -_-#and i wanted a more open-mouth sound when he sings 'dattaka' the second time -- i absolutely love how he draws it out#but had to settle for what i could make work 🤷‍♀️#we are spitting in the face of cringe culture and posting my voice!!#some writers are okay if their complete vision doesnt make it across to the audience but Not Me#i gotta show my whole vision and draft 😂#oh and excuse his voicemail message LMAO#i love shidou with all my heart but i have to tease him about shoving his profession in our face every chance he gets#(did we ever get a translation for that btw?)#but yeah im always preaching to do arts and things youre bad at just because theyre fun so i figured id take my own advice#because it was a lot of fun to sing :3#and i dont know how to word this in the fans-having-collaborative-fun way and not a pretentious way#but if any of the milgram pals who like singing want to cover it hmu :D
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seariii · 7 months
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Everytime I'm making adaptations I remember how fun it is
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*gasp so big i cough* WHO DID THIS <- appreciative <- bewildered
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octosan · 11 months
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The Purge March
[from MILGRAM]
The first: Let destiny run its course, is my vow
Second: To speak vulgarity is never allowed
The third: Give tribute unto those you believe in now
The fourth: Until the very end, see thine duty out
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This "it can't be helped," from people who can't be helped, themselves
Means that they're all guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, without any doubt!
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(Everyone, let's purge!)
For this I say you're disavowed
(This is how we'll learn!)
Your corrupt eyes have got to be broken down
(Everyone, let's purge!)
So that those words are never spoken again
(This is how we'll learn!)
Crush the throat until it won't let out another sound!
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(Just say you're sorry, if you say you're sorry...)
You cry and repent and you kneel, and then
Hopelessly beg, to be forgiven
(Just say that you're sorry, if you say you're sorry...)
You cry and repent and you kneel, and then
Hopelessly beg, to be forgiven
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There will be demons to come out if you should misbehave
This magic is what we use to keep all that away
(The first: Vow to let destiny run its course)
(Second: Vulgarity is never allowed)
There will be demons to come out if you should misbehave
(The third: Give tribute unto those you believe in)
This magic is what we use to keep all that away
(The fourth: See thine duty out to the end)
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Even so,
This "it can't be helped," from the people who can't be helped, themselves
Means that they're all guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, without any doubt!
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(Everyone let's purge)
For this you are disavowed
(This is how we learn)
Your corrupt eyes have to be broken down
(Everyone let's purge)
So that those words are never again spoken
(This is how we learn)
Crush the throat until it can't let out another sound!
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(And now it's my turn)
If your vow means so little to you
(Here and now, you'll learn)
Then it's my duty to tear into you too
(And now it's my turn)
So that your oath is never broken again
(Here and now, you'll learn)
The judgement that you passed down unto me, I shall return
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(Just say you're sorry, if you say you're sorry...)
You cry and repent and you kneel, and then
Hopelessly beg, to be forgiven
(Just say that you're sorry, if you say you're sorry...)
You cry and repent and you kneel, and then
Hopelessly beg, to be forgiven
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(You say that you're sorry? I don't care, just drop dead!)
Remember all the times that I cried, repented
And begged, that you'd forgive me?
(You say that you're sorry? I don't care, just drop dead!)
Remember all the times that I cried, repented
And begged
That you would forgive me?
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luvrr-b0y · 7 months
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Cat(カズイ) - DECO*27
Keep on lying, it’ll only get better
Follow the king of masquerades letter
Since when have I lost track?
Of my feelings from all aback?
Being let down is better than
Being a let down useless puppet
All I needed was a touch
A caress of some kind
All I needed was a touch
Is it wrong to say?
Shove it!
Innocent me?
A bit of dismay?
If that ring had never been bought 
Without a single thought
Couldn’t true love not be forsaken, is that a lie or not?
So love + destiny = crap
Smash it please!
The sweet and sticky process of dinner + you know what!
Affection - love a bit
It’s tacky, isn’t it?
I can tell which was the victim from the start..
So now,
Keep on lying, it’ll only get better
Follow the king of masquerades letter
(Gosh, I’m so drunk..
Hey, so if I said I loved you, 
What’s your answer?)
I just wanted to ask now
Out in the open
I just got a bit greedy, often
I want to do something 
I can’t say it
I have to keep it inside and in an act
The beating of my heart
Maybe good and bad morals were the start
Even if I realize the meaninglessness I still have to dream on this part
I can’t even imagine to think this weird feeling is even normal, I don’t think it is
It’s not normal, I know it’s not, the gratification isn’t a good bit
Let’s take a break now 
So love + destiny = crap
Smash it please!
All I wanted was a sweet caress by you 
I wanted to love and be loved like a cat
To love and go on at my own pace
You like that?
Keep on lying, it’ll only get better
Follow the king of masquerades letter
Lick up the sin and oppose your own punishment 
Until you see the king of the masquerade 
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Written by L on 2/14/2024
HAPPY VALENTINES DAY!!(I was supposed to write dreamin chuchu today)
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milgramfessing · 2 months
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I do hate a lot of Milgram fans who grew up with western values and don't understand Yuno and Kazui's situations to the point where they gloss over or completely misinterpret their situations and project their theories as fact. Yuno talks about her complicated feelings towards her abortion and imagery that's quite obvious regarding her sexual experiences is lost on most western viewers. Kazui has known he's been romantically and sexually attracted to men for a long time--this is not new information to him and he is coming to terms with being open about it, not simply with the fact that he's gay.
I'm just really sick of Milgram fans in the English community glossing over the imagery in Yuno's MVs, ESPECIALLY her 2nd trial MV, and tossing her aside as an "easy" character despite how real her struggles are. I'm also tired of people in general only analyzing Kazui's English lyrics, ignoring his voice dramas and interrogations, and jumping to conclusions that he cheated (though this is more common in not English communities now than the English community...) or that he's aromantic (only present in the English community) or that he abused Hinako, his wife (present in all communities)
I like Yuno and Kazui a lot, but they tend to be misunderstood by western fans on a level of nuance rather than a basic understanding of what they did. However, my true confession here is that I feel grateful that even people across language and culture barriers can at least understand what they did. I can only imagine what people whose favourite prisoners are Haruka, Muu, or Kotoko feel about how the characters have been misinterpreted entirely. Many people in western spheres have made very good analyses of Muu, though, and it makes me very happy to see!
So, despite my mourning of some characters' framings in the western Milgram community, which I have only been talking with and seeing for a short time now, I do like seeing how people's values change how they see characters when it adds a helpful lens to the equation.
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archivalofsins · 4 months
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The Prisoners (All the characters who label themselves as prisoners in their "Thank You" messages.)
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The People they're imprisoned with (All the characters who don't label themselves as prisoners in their "Thank You" messages)-
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I highlighted where they say prisoners under the cut with a few more fun facts-
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Haruka, Futa, Mu, and Kotoko all don't put their names on their thank you messages. Mu only puts her song title on hers in Japanese but she has English lyrics from the song highlighted on their as well. Shidou states that this is Milgram Season 2 before putting the title of his song/contribution then signing his full name like an actor would.
Something when coupled with Jackalopes statement in the second trial commencement notice-
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Along with Shidou blatantly stating,
"Please listen to me, Es. I've killed people. Lots of them as well. It was for such a selfish reason too. I'm a fine specimen of what a genuine murderer ought to be."
It's really suspicious and funny to think of the implications behind how he signed his thank you message. Especially since in the same interrogation Es notes,
"In comparison to all the interrogations thus far, this one has been progressing far too smoothly. It feels somewhat unsettling."
All of that is a really interesting thing to think about when put all together. At least I think so.
(Star here though Gunsli assisted me with sorting this out some- I find the idea of Shidou being a mole very amusing. It would recontextualize the fact that he's a doctor within Milgram.
Giving the impression that Shidou's inclusion was more of a failsafe, in the event that something like Kotoko jumping her fellow prisoners occurred. It's incredibly convenient that Milgram happened to incarcerate not just one but two people who seem to understand first aid.
Considering Shidou's statements about Amane,
22/10/24 (Shidou’s Birthday)
Amane: ……Kirisaki Shidou. How long do you plan on continuing this foolish behaviour?
Shidou: I wonder what you might be referring to there. I’m just doing what I need to do. If anything, I’d be happy if you would lend me a hand.
Amane: I warned you. I can no longer turn a blind eye to this wickedness taking place right in front of us. You’re bringing ruin unto yourself. Do you understand?
Shidou: No, I don’t understand. It’s my job as an adult to teach you that throwing a temper tantrum isn’t going to make everything go your way. If it’s a test of endurance you want, I’m happy to oblige, Amane.
This idea would also recontextualize his immediate response to the events between trial one and two being to tell Es,
"I think we should put an end to Milgram as a whole. Both for our sake and for yours."
Along with his confusion when Es responds with,
That's impossible.
"Why?!" I can't think of any method of stopping it... or any way to get out. "...!" Milgram won't end just because I want it to. That's all I know. It won't end until your judgment has been completed. That's the crux of it. "Your...the same as us, aren't you?"
Ultimately Shidou recognizes that Es is pretty much in the same position as they are. However, under this framing Shidou would be aware that Milgram is an experiment that can be stopped at any time but not aware of who could stop it or how to himself.
This would give more context to him proposition Es in trial one as well,
During the first trial's proposition being asking for the death sentence off the bat:
"That’s just my personality. I just simply don’t think bad of it—this place, I mean." You mean, Milgram? "Yeah, this place will put me to death." What? "I might not get a golden opportunity like this again, so I’ll get straight to the point. Es… You decide how the prisoners will be dealt with, right?" Yeah. That’s right. "The death penalty is what I’m hoping for. Thank you in advance." I won’t have that. The lot of you can’t decide what your own treatment will be. Only I as the prison guard have the authority to do so. "Exactly. You as the prison guard have the right to do such a thing, Es, so that’s why I’m asking you for this favour."
The "unflappable" attitude that Shidou has here can be read as opportunistic complacency with the idea of him being a mole in mind. This mindset is also alluded to within his MVs, a prime example being where he sits down smiling to himself in Throw Down.
Furthermore, this highlights the progression of his view of Es and how much power they wield within Milgram as a whole. Going from the first presumption of Es having the ability to decide the prisoners' treatment to outright asking them to stop Milgram in trial two. Though, he is swiftly corrected about how much administrative power Es has, as pointed out earlier.
On top of that Shidou is the first of the prisoners to bring up the concept of someone dying due to Milgram and the death penalty at all.
Even going as far as to state,
"Hm… But, this place does smell of the dead though. I’m sure that some sort of death will lie at the end of Milgram."
If Shidou is a mole put into the experiment by Milgram then him asking Es for this could be framed as him raising the stakes. It could even be something management told him to do so the audience would know there was a chance of their actions leading to someone's death. Along with why he's genuinely perturbed when someone else almost dies despite stating he knew some sort of death lied at the end of Milgram from the start.
It's definitely an odd change going from kill to we have to make this violence stop before someone actually dies. Yet, it would make a bit more sense if he thought he was in on the lie but began to find out this was more out of control then he thought. He could still very much be a murderer and they just let him be in on it because he wanted to die anyway so didn't see the harm in using him in this way before he does.
This would also play on this line in Undercover well,
"Even with accusations full of faults and mistakes. You will for sure, with a smile for sure- Be pleased and satisfied."
Because regardless of how this plays out he'd still get what he wanted at the end of the day.
Along with fit the line referring to Shidou too,
"“UNDER” Which way will you throw down your weight? To be the deceived, or the deceiver."
This would also explain why Kazui would refer to Milgram as a prison game in his second voice drama,
"If that happens this prison game would probably come to an end as well." - "So this is unpleasant, hurling slurs of “hostage game”, you do know that it’s up to me?"
I asked @doctorbunny about Kazui's wording here and he said,
He says 監獄ごっこ kangoku gokko kangoku meaning prison and gokko meaning pretend/make believe
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The one person known to talk to Shidou the most out of the prisoners and work alongside him. Now what would give him the impression this was all pretend.
Like some sort of a-
20/05/25
Mikoto: ……I’ve really got caught up in some trouble, huh. What even is this place? It’s probably a TV reality show or something. …but to think someone in this day and age would try to do a project that could land them in so much trouble. Uh……
Mahiru: Ah…… I’m Shina Mahiru! You can just call me Mahiru. And you are……?
Mikoto: Kayano Mikoto. I’m fine with just Mikoto too. Ahh, I’m glad there’s someone here who’s easy to talk to…… It’s nice to meet you, Mappy.
Mahiru: ………… ……Mappy???
20/05/31
Mu: Hey, Mikoto-kun, aren’t you scared of this place……? You can’t think of any reason you ended up here, right……?
Mikoto: Ahh, yeah. Of course, it’s not like I’m not scared at all. But just between you and me…… I still haven’t dropped the thought that this could all just be a TV show. I mean, I really haven’t ever murdered anyone. ……and if that is the case, we’re definitely being monitored. For like a prank setup or something. Wouldn’t it be super uncool and embarrassing to get angry or lash and have it shown on prime time?
Mu: Is that what you think……? A prank, huh…… I hope that’s all it is……
Mikoto: Ah! If that is the case, then you’ll probably be super popular since you’re so cute, Mucchan! There’s a lot of girls out there who make their big break coming off reality shows like that!
20/06/15
Mikoto: Hey, it’s kinda a bother having you be so angry and tense all the time. You should stop trying get everyone to pay attention to you. You’re a uni student, right? You can’t act like that once you start working properly.
Futa: Huh!? Shut up. Not like I care what you say. Even though we’re in this shitty situation, you’re just chatting away, it’s stupid. Aren’t you the one who’s acting out of place here? ……also the fact you give everyone nicknames is just gross.
Mikoto: *sigh* It’s more stupid to be taking this all so seriously. I mean, it’s definitely just a reality TV program. There’s no way a real prison exists that’s this lax. Also, I don’t give nicknames to everyone. I don’t give them to young kids like Amane, or to the hard-to-approach types like Shidou-san. I mean, I’m not giving you one, right?
Futa: ……oi, which group are you trying to say I am?
Television show or something.)
This was definitely not supposed to be this long but it was interesting going over all of this with Star and I think it's a fun thing to highlight overall.
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gravityidol · 8 months
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12th Prisoner in Milgram?
the key thing this theory is leaning on is the concept of the panopticon being 12 sectioned. whether the 12th section is a walkway or a cell doesn't matter for this theory, just that it exists.
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10 sections is what you'd assume it to be considering the current canon number of prisoners. iirc there's eleven cells, though, with prisoner 11 implied to be es. my proposed theory is a metaphorical 12th prisoner, to round out the panopticon, and complete a clock face.
milgram seems to have a lot of links to time, and the passing of such, along with almost the loss or absence of time also being a factor. es with their amnesia, how the prisoners were presumably brought in moments after they committed / realized they committed murder (in what ever form it was), how there's an unspecified amount of time in between trials / es being awake.
the clock face and motif could be a natural progression to this theme. 11 confirmed prisoners (as of deep cover, kotoko calling es 011) could relate to the idiom of the 11th hour, a moment in time where it's the last possible moment or almost too late. it's sometimes used in horror or thriller narratives to pin point the moment just before everything goes wrong. having 11 prisoners on a clock face could be a really interesting way of implying guilt, or perhaps relating to how the prisoners were taken just after everything went wrong.
this leads me to the matter of the 12th section. for a clock to be complete, the 12th hour is necessary, even if time were to stop at the 11th hour. what's necessary to Milgram, even though its not explicitly shown? the audience.
the audience has been mentioned in passing, of course, as the voices the prisoners hear and as one of the driving forces behind es, but apart from mikoto saying how he thought milgram was a reality tv show, there's no acknowledgment of watching. of something outside of es or jackalope influencing the progression of milgram.
there's already been a slight commentary on the concept of watching and judging with fuuta, muu, and now kotoko as of Yonah. theres plenty of theories comparing those three to the audience, fuuta relating to the part of judging without fully understanding, muu specifically with her t2 song saying in the official English lyrics "I'm doing this just because I'm bored, we're just the same.", and kotoko with her strong belief in what she believes is true justice. there's more, of course, but those are the key points i remember.
with the commentary on the nature of judging that milgram already makes, it wouldn't be too far to assume that the audience has a bigger role than we already have. we already choose innocent or guilty, along with influencing the reasoning and contributing to the voices the prisoners hear.
es has been revealed to be their own character, with their own backstory and motives, so where would that leave us if es was supposed to be an audience insert? the milgram project is all about how the choices we make have consequences, along with the main theme of the prisoner's crimes.
i believe the 12th section has been reserved for us, the viewers. we're playing the role of judge, jury, and executioner in the same way we criticize kotoko for doing. it wouldn't surpirse me if at the end of the project, after the final verdicts for the prisoners, there's an extra set of votes. one for es, and one for us.
es is the audience mirror, and all of the prisoners have been grouped as a pair. if es is prisoner 011, the one they'd be grouped with is prisoner 012. you could argue es is a parallel to every prisoner in some way, and i'd agree, but that could also go for every character pairing possible. jackalope could also be es's duo pairing, but it feels unlikely as he's never been referenced as a prisoner, even slightly. we, on the other hand, would fit as es's duo due to the concept of the general audience having no specific gender, keeping the male and female prisoner count the same. almost opposite to es's non gender, we as the audience could technically be every gender, keeping the theme of the duos having "opposing" genders.
tldr; the audience is the 12th prisoner, being es's parallel for the prisoner duos.
feel free to add or object to this, its just an idea i've had sitting in my head for a while :]
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blitz0hno · 5 months
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Man writing English lyrics for Milgram songs is so fun wish I didn't start crying when I start to sing them
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doctorbunny · 1 year
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So I thought it'd be silly and detract from this post to talk about fandom underneath it But I've been looking for a way to talk about this and I think this is as good a start as any.
I keep seeing a lot of people confused as to why Kazui, assuming he is a gay/aro/other closet LGBT man would want to 'decieve' Hinako by lying to her about being in romantic love with her and marrying her
It makes sense, if you're young and from the right area, you might not know a lot of history, its certainly not taught in schools. For example, to many people 'gay panic' is a cute trope, wherein a person struggles with their newly discovered identity and not a legal defence people used to excuse the beating and murder of gay people
Kazui is 39 years old. He would've turned 40 in August 2020, meaning he was born in 1980
When the comic above about Bert and Ernie getting a civil union (not even marraige yet) was made in 2003, he would've been 23.
By the time gay marraige was legalised in the US, it was 2015, Kazui would've been 35 (and despite Kazui being Japanese, because other countries like to copy America, the US legalising gay marraige was absolutely celebrated by LGBT people worldwide)
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(here's a section of Our Dreams At Dusk a manga that began publication months before the legalisation of gay marraige in the US showing just two states legalising gay marraige as being news worthy to LGBT people in Japan) The first Asian country to legalise gay marraige was Taiwan in 2019 Japan is expected to be the second... but they're taking their time
Gender identity and sexual orientation are also not nationally protected civil rights, meaning protection from discrimination depends on the prefecture you live in.
And this is without getting into darker subjects like higher self harm/suicide rates or violent crimes against LGBT people
I don't want to be doom and gloom, many people are becoming more aware and accepting of LGBT people. But Kazui had every reason to wish to remain closeted
For all people talk about a 'divorce stigma' I believe it is silly to have expected a gay man in the 2000's, when many people even in the states thought gay marraige was unattainable in their lifetime, to have considered that when he got married to someone in an attempt to conform to society Especially because most difficulty to remarry after divorce comes from views surrounding custody laws and adoption. A lot of people don't want to get in a relationship with someone who already has children since they don't view them as their own on account of being blood related. This is probably why Fuuta's mother left Fuuta and his sister with their father. It's very notable that Milgram lampshades how by Kazui's age he was 'expected' to have children but didn't. We don't know Hinako's opinion on having children, but its possible Kazui intentionally didn't have any with her for this reason (despite feeling melancholy he could've had a child Muu's age by now)
Shidou had children (the eldest of which he likely sired while still being in medical school), Mahiru was still in university and thinking about planning a family, Amane notes that her mother gave birth to her when she was Mahiru's age. (TLs from Rochisama)
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These aren't malicious feelings imo. This is Kazui noticing a coworker he likes is romantically interested in him and taking a chance on her in the hopes that playing a role as a straight man will make him into one. (unfortunately the suit doesn't fit) There is a Japanese saying of 出る杭は打たれる 'the nail that sticks out gets hammered in' suggesting it is better to not stand out (interestingly, the below lyric is the same in Japanese and English but in French its more like 'I can't take it anymore, I'm different')
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It's also worth noting that gay people getting into heterosexual relationships even outside of Japan, used to be Extremely Common. Like my mother has a co-worker who did it
In addition, Yokohama is one of the more expensive places to live in Japan. Mixed with his expensive looking wedding and the traditonal dress of the family at his wedding. It's very likely he comes from a wealthy (conservative) background which would contribute to pressures
I'm rambling a little, i'm quite tired. But I don't want people to think this means they Have to vote Kazui innocent. I don't know your theories. Maybe you think he's straight or sexuality is entirely irrelavent to his crime or you think he's gay but you just want to vote him guilty for some other reason. Any reason is allowed (although non-milgram fans trying to use him as a luck shrine has to be pretty weird)
I just think that when you judge Kazui as a gay man who 'lied' to a straight woman, you need to look at the context it happened in and the many real people who still exist in marraiges like that. Beware whomst you call deceptive or manipulative in a world were heterosexuals feel entitled to your immediate coming out.
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morallygay · 6 months
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Currently obsessed with “half” from milgram. So fucking cool how I realized all the lyrics can be interpreted to be about the wife or the guy he likes. I’m talking about the japanese lyrics btw, it doesn’t go over to the english translation, which chooses specific interpretations, and it’s such a shame for anyone who doesn’t speak japanese and it’s not your fault!
And that’s just a me thought but oh it would have been even sooo much cooler if they’d changed the lyrics just a little for both times he says the same lyrics to subtly indicate one time it’s about the guy and one time about the wife !!
I better fucking make a long ass tumblr post analyzing and explaining the entire song one day…!! With the full details and translation of the original lyrics of course, for the real ones ;)
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good-beanswrites · 1 year
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My translyrics for Salamander, written out under the cut :D
This one was much more difficult than the last, but I'm still very satisfied with it! 😤 I'm both sad that my version lost a lot of the fun soundplay of the original, and also waaay more impressed with the lyrics and vocals after digging it like this! I tried to keep it balanced between the original and Fuuta's version, though maybe it ended up leaning more toward the cover, idk. Leaving my specific notes in the tags 👍
Salamander~ Hot's nice, don't you agree? This pa- passion's fine, see?
"But" isn't what I wanna hear, so say "more" loud and clear.
It's heating up all through my mind when I'm with you.
I want a taste, but all this spice may prove more than I can take, (eh?)
Something's on your mind. So spit it out and tell me, don't waste my time, kay?
I'm hooked on this, pass me a dish.
The way I'm starving here without you -- it's a crime
A spicy treat, put on repeat,
Can I get seconds with the same heat? One more time!
Salamander~ Hot's nice, don't you agree? This pa- passion's fine, see?
"But" isn't what I wanna hear, so say "more" loud and clear.
It's heating up all through my mind when I'm with you.
I can't stop anything, although I wouldn't want to stop, oh no --
Take a breath, it's best to cool down or you earn yourself a burn.
I want a bite, I can't help giving in to this new appetite.
Again, again, I want to be on fire when I get to the end.
We live too fast, we burn to ash,
I never handled spices well and it's a crime.
A spicy treat, put on repeat,
Can I get seconds with the same heat? One more time!
I want to burn bright red
I want to burn bright red
Salamander~ Hot's nice, don't you agree? This pa- passion's fine, see?
"But" isn't what I wanna hear, so say "more" loud and clear.
Tell me I'm not alone in my mind!
Salamander~ Look what's happened to me. This pa- passion's crazy
Tell me I'm not delirious, I'm being serious.
It's heating up all through my mind when I'm with you.
I can't stop anything, although I wouldn't want to stop, oh no --
Take a breath, it's best to cool down or you earn yourself a burn.
I want to leave I want to go, but I can never stop, oh no --
Take a breath, it's best to cool down or you earn yourself a burn.
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stuffedsand · 11 months
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T3 cover thoughts,,, and psuedo guesses
Haruka : considering both of his songs were from the android girl album I feel like he's gonna get a third. Of which the only other song I know the lyrics to is relationship scramble.
I think it could work ("right now I want instant love", could be the whole any attention is good, negative inclusive, so long as it's attention) (bro idk)
Yuno : honestly not a clue haha, tho I think Rabbit Hole would work (+it's a popular prediction for her, I haven't listened to it but it could be a good choice?)
Fuuta : .....he got Salamander this trial I don't know what they're gonna give him anymore....I don't even know what the deal is with mosaik role,,,,,
Maybe Chimera? I've only listened to it once but it has the Vibes tm. I think it fits? I'm not very good at lyrical analysis but it'd be fun idk
(or volt tackle haha)
Muu : Theory of Negativity because idk it vibes. Similar to otome dissection kinda idk
Alternatively, Cinderella just cuz it....vibes like her I don't have a better explanation sorry
Shidou : I reeeally want to say cosmic rendezvous,,,, but it doesnt fit with his other covers. I hope dearly for cosmic rendezvous but let be realistic haha
My prediction. Ghost Rule or 118. Ghost Rule would be fun !!!! 118 would be, to me, if someone died in t3, cuz the lyrics can be twisted abit. It'd be so fun. Also "no law to pardon my crime" and "ethics are a delusion, but I'm still guilty when the morning comes" vibe the same. Also his va can do it I believe in him
The cover would also SLAP cuz from what I can tell shidous covers have a more...frantic? Energy to them and that works for a lot of the GHOST album songs. Anyways Ghost Rule milgram cover?? Please??
Mahiru : I had more but I forgot so here's the ones I remembered
U (unlikely, it's a English song... But hey it'd be fun) / Poison Apple (I'd say poison apple works for kazui but... There are funnier picks for him so)
I think her voice fits for these songs idk they just...vibe. really well. I believe in her va
Most fitting from what Ive seen is Zombies or Psuedo-Hope Syndrome which would work vocally and thematically I think! Idk tho haha mahirus is really vibe based
Kazui : ok wishful thinking : Ghost Rule. Fits with the liar theme. But I already gave it to shidou and it doesn't fit his other two covers (sad melancholy) so he gets the song I initially chose for shidou! Cosmic Rendezvous. A win for old man yaoi truthers (JOKE)
No seriously. The lyrics could be read as non romantic, and it continues his cover theme of Regret. It'd be fun, thematically relevant, fir the other covers, AND it'd hurt me. Perfect. If he does get cosmic rendezvous I will cry
Alternatively; we the hostages (?) Idk this pick was also solely vibes. I really want cosmic rendezvous though but that's cuz I want someone to say fuck
Amane : Angel Hair. I don't have a particular reason? Also this would be more in line with Positive Parade which was the trial one song.... And she got animal which I never would've expected so? Who knows. This is a fun list for vibes. Oh I think then all her songs would be Mannequin songs too
Mikoto : uhhhh (Not) a Devil. Cuz I'm not creative and it'd be funny. Uhh otherwise I'm not too sure.
Honourable mention that I think both Mikoto and Kotoko could get Addiction? By vibes alone lol cuz I can't read the captions...
Kotoko : imma be real I forgot. To kin assign her a song. But after having a short look at Anti - Beat I think she could get Dilemma? I think it works for kotoko. Idk
Tell me what songs you guys predict for any given character next trial I like seeing people's readings on what fits the character or the covers!!! Particularly kotoko, yuno and mikoto as much as I like their characters I don't have much of a read on them...
Also tell me what your favourite covers are!!!! I personally like both of shidous, kazui's, mahirus and fuuta's, and I really liked the monopoisoner one! (Haven't listened to reversible campaign enough to form opinion), as well as Harukas two breaths walking cover (haven't listened enough to the android girl one whoops)
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so. we know how milgram tries to alter our perception of characters through the MVs to make us vote Guilty? lyrics are, of course, a part of that until recently I haven't tried checking out if the MVs provide any other language, and would you look at that, with Trial 2 progressing on they've hired more translators, one of them doing it into French!
and you know me, i'm a translator myself who speaks french too, so I took it upon myself to check how much do the official english lyrics overlap with those french ones. as i found out, very little!
therefore i present to you, All Knowing And All Agony, from japanese to french back to english! translated by yours truly
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in order to shorten this post, only lyrics different enough from the english ones are included.
if you want to use this translation anywhere, i wish to be credited!
Don’t leave me alone, don’t leave me -> Don't leave me, I want to stay with you
You never called me by my name Instead you kept calling me “hopeless" -> [unchanged] (though now written in present tense) -> Calling me a "disappointment", it became your habit
You were always comparing me to someone else You were always generous, except towards me -> You were comparing me to someone else -> You were always kind, except towards me
I will definitely make you love me again -> I'll do anything to regain your love (for me)
I wasn’t wrong, I wasn’t wrong Please don’t say that I am a loser Hug me again as you once did -> I'm not an error, I'm not an error -> Please don't laugh while treating me like a loser [1] -> Take me into your arms (hug me) like you did before
I just wanted to be your good boy Why am I crying again? -> I didn't want to disappoint [2] -> Who's responsable for these tears?
If with one click, and I can reset everything Can I be your favorite this time? -> If, by clicking on a button, I could be reborn -> Could I become your child prodigy this time?
Don’t wipe me out, don’t wipe me out I just want to be your good boy I will keep on killing to be a good boy -> I don't want to die, I don't want to die -> Even in this unjust life, my dreams will survive -> Even if I have to steal it, I'll obtain it [3]
I can’t stop, I can’t stop -> It's all I have, it's all I can do
Mommy, look, I’ve done great “There there, my good boy!” I promise to make my dreaMU come true -> Mom, look, you see I'm so strong! [4] -> "Come hug me, my good boy!" -> Even if it's far (from becoming real), I promise to you I'll realize my dream [5]
Don’t leave me alone, don’t leave me Why was I born to be me? Why does it hurt so much? -> Don't leave me, I want to stay with you -> Why have I become what I am now? Why does it hurt so much?
I wasn’t wrong, I wasn’t wrong -> I was right, I was right [6]
If with one click, and I can reset everything I want to be your favorite next -> If, by clicking on a button, I could be reborn -> Could I become your child prodigy next time?
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the word I'm translating as "loser" (un raté) here, were I the most direct possible, would be more along the lines of "the failed one" or "the failure"
should be noted that the verb "to disappoint" and "to deceive" are the same in french
i am uncertain as to what the "it" here references. it can't be "love" because in french, that's a masculine noun and the "it" is feminine. it's just a side observation, but the word jewelry (bijouterie) and affection are feminine though
sounds weird in english, but the essence is "im super strong, i'm so cool! look at how great i am!"
they maintained the dreaMU joke if you're wondering, though the word they changed isn't "dream" but "my" (mon -> MUn)
this is more of a derailment, but "to be right" in french is, literally, "to have reason"
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