#ml sublimation

[buggachat]

OH TO BE A FLY ON THEIR WALL. OH TO SEE ALL THE KINDS OF MESSED UP INCOMPLETE CONVERSATIONS THESE TWO APPARENTLY HAVE. OH TO BE ON THE FIELD AND COLLECT PROPER SAMPLES TO STUDY UNDER A MICROSCOPE

[yeet-noir]

Wait the photo of Adrien on Marinette’s plotting board is giving me some lovesquare crumbs because she probably took that photo of him while they were on a date 😭🥹 Before Marinette really only had photos of Adrien that were from photoshoots! Look how far they have come! 👏

[trashart00]

She’s taking her job as the new taker of Adrien Grotographs very seriously.

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[miraculous-floconfettis]

That's way too many frogs.

Either someone in the Miraculous team is fan of frogs or this is sus.

[mostmagical]

adrien matches marinette's freak so well. god. sure, beloved girlfriend, you can wear a disguise and listen in on my family lunch. sure, girlfriend, I'll only kiss you on the cheek for Unspecified Reason. he doesn't bat a single eye. he doesn't care. she's behind him in the bushes. must be tuesday. I love them so much.

[brawltogethernow]

So Sublimation was a riot.

[lorian-loriest-dingo]

Hello? Can we talk about the fact that Adrien is learning ANCIENT GREEK? Too much fanfic made me believe that Adrien was more inclined to math But considering it, it seems that he leans more towards letters / communication / Language Which makes sense? He knows a lot about history and already understands Chinese (which is COMPLICATED), he was practicing English that he already knew on the trip to New York and he likes puns So he likes languages? Or maybe he's trying everything?

It's also funny that Adrien of all the languages he could learn decided on Ancient Greek lmao

Why?

[moog190]

sketch of sublime's prothesis

i think theyre really pretty

[bugoutreviewgirlie]

guys look! they're not insanely short compared to the adults anymore!! they're regular teenage size now 😭

[bananagreste]

days of marinette dupain cheng #217 >> ka-chow!

[mamayura]

Okay but what's crazy is that the episode does subtly reveal that Adrien did keep it a secret from Marinette that he's more than silent jogging buddies with Sublime

In the beginning, Marinette says that when she asked Adrien if he and Sublime talk when they go running he always says "no". This is factually correct as we find out in the end through Sublime:

But there is obviously something not adding up here. Sublime literally says "Outside of running, of course Adrien and I talk". They just arent talking in any of their morning runs because Sublime in particular is doing it as serious training. So no talking because that would impact their breathing, but outside of that? Well, yeah, duh.

And that makes sense

Adrien and Sublime are in the same ancient Greek class, of course they would talk. I'm gonna go with the assumption that this is why Sublime started running by his side, because they vaguely knew each other from Greek class and when they crossed each others running paths one morning they were familiar enough to just run together in silence

Look, I- I dont know how to put this more elegantly, so I'll rip off the bandaid. The vibes I'm getting from this episode are that Adrien was more than cool with not talking anyway because he deliberately keep his friendship with Sublime a secret from Marinette because he knew Marinette would be weird about it and that made him uncomfortable.

He knows his girlfriend and she's peanut-butter-and-jealous.

And the thing is, as much as this certainly is a complicated topic with a lot of factors to consider for both sides, the way the episode had Marinette go about all this...

... the episode proved him RIGHT. He was right to be too uncomfortable with letting Marinette know about being friends with Sublime. She merely found out that they were running together in silence and proceeded to not only keep watching them each morning and taking photos, Marinette even proceeded to stalk the hell out Sublime:

No, this isnt normal. This isnt a "quirky girlfriend" thing to do, or "funny haha". Its one of the reason why Adrien didnt feel comfortable letting her know.

And, I mean, yeah. I can't blame him for it, can I? :I

Later on, Sublime is very quick to piece together that the girl hiding behind them is Adrien's girlfriend. Not the thing I would immediately go with, unless of course Adrien did already vaguely mention having a girlfriend to Sublime at one point. Then yes, her coming to this conclusion after Marinette followed her all day makes a lot more sense. Even if those are not.. nice implications. The episode does go on playing it straight at first that Marinette is the weird and a bit alarming girlfriend.

Look, you can pretty this up if you like, but for me, Adrien is clearly a solid bit uncomfortable and very apologetic here to Sublime because of Marinette's behavior. Sublime too is being nice about it to a degree you shouldnt take for granted. She would have had been perfectly justified in saying something else entirely. Adrien is trying to be a good boyfriend about this, but Marinette is out here proving him right in having struggled with wanting her to know about Sublime. Marinette has been following her around all day, Sublime noticed, and Adrien is doing good faith damage control here by telling Sublime that Marinette has good intentions and only wants to be her friend.

Something, though, that the episode clarified 3 times wasnt really the case:

It is so weird that at the core of the problem for both sides of Adrinette WAS Marinette being peanut-butter-and-jealous.

Marinette did NOT try to befriend Sublime out of some pure-hearted desire to know her. She did so because she feared that Adrien could end up not loving her anymore if she doesnt gain some control over the Sublime situation real quick

And Adrien DID keep his friendship with Sublime a secret from Marinette because, well, was he wrong?

And thats the thing. The episode just DROPS this in favor of saying that Marinette only had these pure-hearted intentions to know her when that isnt true. The episode proved Adrien alarmingly RIGHT in his gut feeling to keep Sublime a secret from Marinette, they just-

They just didnt let him know about any of it as if that makes it any less true. I would understand it if this episode had been entirely about tackling this issue for good. Adrien not being wrong for feeling uncomfortable with letting Marinette know about any new female friends and then Adrien gets proven right, but the situation is saved by Marinette's secondary desire of befriending Sublime.

Sure, not the plot of my choice, but I would GET IT because it would actually cover the given problem. Here it is... they didnt do it. Adrien was proven right, Marinette did everything wrong to Sublime that was possible and ended up breaking her prosthetic and ruined the sponsorship with a combo of Marinette's and Ladybug's harmful inconsideration.

Marinette did exactly what Adrien was afraid of... and they just DON'T resolve the initial Adrinette core of this issue. It's still ongoing. Marinette didnt even get to react in the end to finding out that Adrien did keep her in the dark about talking to Sublime:

I guess for now the explanation for that will be that Adrinette switched positions in this for once and now it's Marinette who isnt questioning it enough that Adrien only said the truth to her going by the technicality of "She only ask him if they talk while running".

Obviously, this is not how it works. He kept her in the dark. And whether he was right to doing so or not isnt important for the feeling I'm getting that this is just the beginning of a streak of similar problems like this. The postponed resolution to this will happen at a later point, and knowing Miraculous, they'll do it after it escalates to hell.

We already saw it in "Illustrhater" and the synopsis for "Werepapas" for example also sounds like Marinette will not stop here being a questionable girlfriend

I just dont understand why they would keep on DOING that?

[lyricsandwonder]

If miraculous ladybug has taught me anything –it’s that all you need to get your parents to to understand you is to beat them up with your friends while wearing funky little costumes

[sidsinning]

Girl's a bit of a psycho I can get behind that

[fandomofone]

I've been thinking about Adrien and running.

There have been plenty of posts theorizing and breaking this down, so I'm sure I'm not covering any new ground here, but I have a couple of points to make that I specifically have not seen come across my dash that I wanted to mention. Put it under a cut because this got long. (whoops)

We first see Adrien running with Sublime in Sublimation and it seems like just an activity he's taken up, a new hobby. We get a deeper look at how he gets into this hobby at the end of Climatiqueen- where we see him walk past his house and pick up the pace, falling into a run and eventually bumping into Sublime, where voilá, a new friendship is born.

A lot of people have theorized that Adrien breaking into a run once he reaches the gates of his home symbolizes him running away from the oppression of the house that he shared with his father, symbolizes him running away from his life. Sublime even straight up asks him if he's running away. And I do believe that is true, in part. Just look at the angle that has been chosen to display the house as it comes into view- the house literally looks like Gabriel Agreste looking disapprovingly down the length of his nose at his son. It's looming over him ominously, a huge, imposing structure that suffocates the frame, taking up the majority of the space and making him seem small. This seems to perfectly encapsulate how Adrien is feeling about himself at this time in his life. Added to that he's probably got conflicting feelings and guilt over his father being gone. I wouldn't want to go home either.

But I think there's more to it than that.

Why Adrien starts running.

Adrien has just come from a very stressful and depressing day where, through no fault of his own or anyone else's, he's been made to feel marginalized and useless in contrast to all of his friends who seem to have something driving them, especially his extremely passionate, enthusiastic girlfriend. Despite her attempts to be helpful, all that's been demonstrated to him throughout the course of the day is that the only passion he has in his life- being a superhero, being Chat Noir- is something he can never do as Adrien Agreste, and it's something he can never share with anyone. This is a personal failure for him- he's letting Marinette down. Bad boyfriend move #1. Despite all her hard work and encouragement, he cannot settle on a passion that he can have as Adrien. He's made her inadvertently feel bad for having so many, so easily, and he can't even partake in the passion that he does have full time. His identity is literally and metaphorically fractured. Following all of that, having to return home to a house that no longer feels familiar or safe to him (for a variety of reasons) triggers a panic attack.

Physical exertion, specifically running, is a very common way to handle a panic attack. It is literally the flight response in 'fight or flight' manifesting during a period of high levels of stress- the feeling that you can't sit still, need to move, everything is building and you need an outlet to burn off that excess energy, until the adrenaline in your body normalizes.

Why Adrien keeps running.

Routine gives him something to focus on. Joining Sublime during her regimented training routine provides structure, the very thing that his entire life has consisted of and revolved around for 14 years, and has now been completely removed from his life, in a well-meaning attempt by the people who love him to encourage him to do what he wants to do for once.

This is terrifying.

The literal one-step-after-another aspect that running provides gives him a predetermined course to focus on. It's an automatic response; his body already knows what to do and there is no decision for him to make. It's something that he doesn't have to think about, something that's within his control. Additionally, the physical exercise itself provides endorphins, something he's sorely missing at this point in his life.

Ugh, Adrien. It's going to be a long, hard road for you, I'm afraid. 🥺💔

[lostuntothisworld]

This is the same outfit. Perhaps its a uniform?

[familyagrestefanblog]

Screw it, I'm gonna ask the question:

When has Marinette really struggling to make friends ever been a thing in the show? People are now using Marinette's anxiety as an excuse for why she struggled with behaving in any way normally around Sublime, as well as using it as "duh" explanation for why Adrien is in the "right" for saying that it is a normal thing for Marinette to not know how to befriend people.

But WHEN did she ever act like this while trying to make new friends or form a connection when it wasn't actually explicitly about Adrien?

Cause that's the thing: Adrien is incorrectly projecting the way Marinette treats him onto her treatment of Sublime, saying that this is normal for Marinette.

But its not.

This whole "you only have one chance to make a good impression to become someone's friend" has never been something Marinette's character thought or acted like. She has countless of friends, even more connections everywhere, she's the widely beloved hero of the city, and a team that trusts her and follows her every word.

Her anxiety can get a BIT in the way here and there in how she treats her regular friends (so excluding Chat Noir), but she never did THIS before to make a friend.

Her anxiety can have her badly judge people who she then treats worse, but once she gets over herself she barely has a problem to try and reconnect with them and be their friend

She ONLY treated Adrien like this, hence why he incorrectly projected onto Sublime. What are you all TALKING about that thats the REAL reason for her behaviour?

Shouldn't yall Marinette stans KNOW your fav well enough to know she never did THIS before?

Why are you all LYING?