antis just call about everything pedophilia now, including an 18 yo dating a 17 yo.
Oh no, the horror!!! The one year age gap!!! /s
and then someone went ahead and said "as long as there is no sex involved it's fine" but the characters this was about are fictional and even irl this isn't such a big thing to worry about
Ugh
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I've noticed far too many people don't know what "Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings" means and confuse it with "No Archive Warnings Apply."
No Archive Warnings Apply:
Does not contain nuts.
Safe. Nothing here will harm reader.
Creator Chose not to Use Archive Warnings:
May contain nuts. (Assume it contains every nut under the sun. It is a potential can of mixed nuts from which a spring-loaded snake will pop out.)
Not inherently safe. Proceed with caution and an understanding the work may contain every other warning available. All of them. Or none of them.
Creator is under no obligation to disclose any of this ahead of time.
The Warning is the warning.
Any fallout is the fault of the reader's misunderstanding or disregard of the Warning. The creator is not at fault.
If a reader chooses to filter out one (or more) warning(s) for their mental health, they need to understand they should also filter out "Creator Chose not to Use Archive Warnings" because it may contain the one(s) of their aversion.
It's concerning how many people will agree to a website's TOS without actually reading it. (No really, this is concerning.) Because the explanation of warnings is right there in the TOS. They define "Creator Chose not to Use Archive Warnings." All users have to agree to the TOS before creating an account.
And who doesn't want to know how a website works when using it?
Also important: General tags (not warnings) are a courtesy, not a requirement. The creator will include them if they choose. Many people do not feel that obligation. They may not add a tag, even if asked, and they do not have to. (Yes, this even includes a work with incest. It could be completely untagged and break no rule.)
That is AO3's Terms of Service. The reader may consider the creator rude for not tagging, but everyone should look out for themselves and understand their own expectation of risks. You don't have to agree with a creator's choice. You do need to understand it's a choice they might have made. It is a risk you take that they might have made it.
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guys i think if the 6,000,000 m/m fics and 1,000,000 f/f fics on ao3 havent succeeded in normalizing queer relationships worldwide in 2024, then im PRETTY SURE the 320,000 underage fics, the 148,000 incest fics and the 380,000 rape fics arent going to normalize such topics irl anytime soon
I don’t understand what is this logic you’re using /jk
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there's a massive debate on twitter right now about how harmful (the concept of) sexualizing nuns is
I thought we all knew that religious-mandated chastity is sexualization, so is objectifying real people who don't want to be objectified, again though this isn't about real people, this is about putting a character into a costume
not a single real nun objected to the tweet, but I kept seeing radfems and antis agree with each other
and here I thought antis were progressive /s
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This might be a weird beef, and my 'evidence' is also most probably anecdotal, but I swear this happens so often I could conduct a social study, so I thought I'd share!
So I casually keep engaging with fandom on twitter and tumblr, and of course I come across all kinds of people, pros and antis and secret third things too.
I mostly try to stay in the 'normal person who doesn't hurt anyone' space, cultivating my internet experience, as you do, no matter what I do though, there be antis in the replies and quotes with the usual brain dead takes, and they always yell at people like "shut up weirdo!! you're weird!!! you're Weirdy McWeirderton!!!"
But that's not the surprising part. The surprising part is that 90% of the time if I check such a person's profile... they're a furry. Their account is months, years of sharing or making furry art or cosplaying such themes, sfw and nsfw too.
Now, listen - I would be spitting in my own eye if I had anything against them enjoying what they enjoy, so this is not about that. We have different tastes, and that's perfectly fine.
But OBJECTIVELY SPEAKING. My guy. My dude. In the eyes of majority society. Or imagine like, in the eyes of my Eastern European grandma who is 72 and watches soap operas.
"WEIRD" starts with... you. It's you! It's not a 15 year old and a 17 year old kid dating. (Fictional, no less...) Childhood friends becoming lovers is not incestuous, and it's super insulting to say so. I don't pretend to know what sheltered life antis live where you never have crushes on classmates or never meet anyone on the beach or at guitar practice, but these are literally the most common things in real life! What ISN'T common though - in "normie" circles, on the 'adult with a job' pane of existence - is liking anthropomorphic animals after you've turned older than 12.
Again, I have nothing against if you do. I genuinely mean that.
I genuinely believe we ALL deserve space, this is why I'd like everyone to understand that the OBJECTIVE definition of 'weird' is NOT the proshippers and whatever the hell 'illegality' antis keep accusing them of. To me this common use of "weird" as a 'gotcha' is just funny and illogical. THEIR fantasies would literally not be accepted anywhere except on the internet and its blissful options to stay anonymous, and yet they keep harrassing people for entertaining the same.
Has anyone ever noticed any other specific pattern like that?
Oh yeah it’s super common
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So I started following this blog where the blogger posted aesthetic pictures and the like. It was all cool and great, until they rebloged a post that mocked people who research their mental illnesses without going to a therapist(like myself). It also said something like "u are mentally ill because u spend your time watching animes lol!". Which I found offensive. Do they know know hyperfixations exist?? Anyway I decided to check the notes. Full of radfems and a free blocklist for me! Yay. But to be safe, I decided to check her blog too (the blog I followed which rebloged the post). I think u can guess the rest, her blog was full of transphobia(honestly not surprised),radfems,anti kink posts and she had rebloged some "u evil porn addicts!!!!" posts. I didn't read all of that, only the 3 top posts and checked some of the other posts' tags. I really didn't want to block her by mistake because we were from the same country(it's hard to find other people here), But I had to. I didn't want this kind of things on my dash.
Why I wrote all that? I never saw a radfem before. I always saw posts that said antis and radfems are similar but I didn't investigate. My bad, I should have. So antis, congratulations!!!
Most of you are radfems without the transphobia! Please grow out of it. For your own shake.
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honestly not too far away from what antis believe
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I've lately seen a major uptick in people thinking that trans men somehow magically acquire fullon male privilege when they transition (see for instance many many cases of "all trans men oppress all trans women") and I don't know how to make them see how ridiculous that is
Yeah I’ve seen that and it makes no sense if you live in the real world
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I'm glossing over the cease-fire topic of the hearing (not relevant to my point), but did you see the news story about the girl facing possible years of jail time after speaking at a city council with "jokey" death threats to the officials?
It's such an abrupt reminder that threats are threats. The whole thing makes me think of antis being so comfortable making threats online that they don't realize they are, in fact, threatening death. I'm sure the girl who did this is the same. She's been online threatening death as a joke for so long, she's forgotten that the real world takes it very seriously. Now, she's facing potential jail time about it.
While I don't think it should all be dealt with so extremely, I would love if more people got that slap in the face reminder about the severity of what they're actually saying.
Yeah that’s seriously fucked up
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Hi!! Can anyone here tell me how yandere fans/creators are antishippers sometimes? Like I want to understand how those people consume media about characters that are obviously mentally ill and being romanticized for it, but then they're also antiship. ,,_,,
This ask was inspired by me having come across at least two content creators who have proshippers DNI despite making yandere games.
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idk why antis can’t realize this but generalizing all men as abusers of women is radfem rhetoric
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my eyes!!
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A post: "Ship whatever you want, it's all fiction, it literally doesn't matter. Stop harassing people over fiction."
The same person, five minutes later: "I'm so tired of these motherfuckers who ship [female character] with men. She is canonically attracted to women, what's so hard to understand about that?! We need to kick these assholes out of the fandom right now."
(First off, the hypocrisy is off the charts. Secondly, the character they were talking about has shown attraction to both men and women.)
Every damn time
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Recently the creator of Boyfriends was talking about how Webtoons has hurt their ability to create their comic. And then they later stated that Webtoons is basically responsible for the hate and harassment they got because they were pressured into allowing the advertising. And this was revealed after several people are exposing how badly webtoons is treating people that are in thier programs.
Ugh that’s so shitty
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At this point I'm sure, that "pedophilia" is the worst whistleblower word ever. You drop it and people automatically lose any critical thinking, no fact checking, no trying to see the bigger picture, nothing, they just take everything at face value and pick up pitchforks and torches. And then don't stop, until they find the witch to burn, doesn't matter, if that person actually is guilty or not.
It's horrible.
Ding ding ding
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I’m upset that antis have basically normalized telling survivors of abuse that they’re continuing the cycle of abuse and need therapy as a form of corrective punishment over fictional ships
They all care so much about CSA survivors that they openly share rape fantasies of real people, often because they were talked back to after coming to someone else’s post that they KNEW would upset them
Antis care about survivors that agree with them so long as they toe the line, after that they don’t give a shit
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