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#mvk did murder a guy yes
pictureswithboxes · 2 years
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I like torturing Miles Edgeworth as much as the next person. But some of y’all are going overboard…
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sage-nebula · 1 month
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3-5 should have ended with that incredible moment of Dahlia being exorcised from Maya's body. The fact that it drags on for so fucking long after that because Godot can't just give it up for bad-man-sad-man reasons (that the game uses Phoenix and Maya to try to convince you are so noble even though the alternative to him confessing is an indictment for Maya) drags the entire case down by a significant degree.
#like again mvk did a similar thing in 1-4 but he did it bc he was a bastard & the game treated him as such#here gdt is an asshole and the game is like noooo he's a good guy!!!!#my favorite part was when he said he didn't tell the one person he should have abt the murder plot#& you think he'd say Maya bc. you know. she was the target. it was her goddamn life on the line#but she says ''you mean Nick?'' and he's like ''the most important man in the room''#DISGUSTING. TRASH. GARBAGE. VOMIT ALL OVER THIS CASE.#also hate the way he talks abt Mia posthumously tbh#''she wouldn't have died if i'd been there''#''it was your job to save her''#i realize Mia did in fact die but that wasn't because she didn't have a man present#like idk the way he talks about her REALLY damsels her in a way she wasn't prior to T&T#and also while one could argue she was killed in 1-2 to further Phoenix's growth (thus fridged) - i'd say no#bc of the channeling. she was a dead mentor who came back all the time#she died to bring in Maya#retroactively using her death to give Godot the sads of having a dead gf retcons her into a fridge#ugh. ugh ugh ugh#i picked up on NONE of this when i first played T&T back in high school#and i'd never made it back to T&T any time i tried to replay the og trilogy after#(i always lost steam after jfa)#my positive memories of gdt and his relationship with Mia have been shattered by this replay#canonically she has shit tier taste in men#yes he's attractive but then he opens his mouth and you're hit with the coffee breath and awful personality#girl what were you THINKING
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good lird they did not make a gimmick blog about a real life murder
#someone fucking DIED but whatever who gives a shit it's funny i guess
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🥚 eggvidenced Follow
honestly with how suspicious and confusing everything on the dl-6 case was i wouldn't be surprised if it came out that it was that prosecutor guy tbh
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date posted: june 23, 2010
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⚖️ courtofpublicopinions Follow
🌟 rockliker270 Follow
ok hear me out. what abt winston payne though
🧊 just--ice Follow
okay now they're just making lawyers up
#also didn't mvk die or something?
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🔥 triedbyfire Follow
why the fuck are you people still posting about the gavinners as if theyre not copaganda. didn't the guitarist get convicted of murder
🎸 guiltiest-lovers837 Follow
so fucking tired of this "um um didn't daryan get convicted of murder" YEAH AND HE'S LITERALLY NOT IN THE FUCKING BAND ANYMORE. dipshit
🔥 triedbyfire Follow
are you gonna address the copaganda thing or
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🌻 attorneybout Follow
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he's so. 😳
📂 trialanderror Follow
why is he defending
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OP WHY IS HE DEFENDING???
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🦈 giantlakemonsters Follow
i just wanna hear about another gourdy sighting thats all
🥜 liberdeez Follow
op. i'm so sorry op. gourdy isn't real you have to let her go. they had a whole trial about it.
🔐 wrightorwrong Follow
hi!! so this isn't actually the case as while gourdy was briefly mentioned in a trial, said trial had nothing to do with whether or not gourdy was "real" per se as much as. well. murder, actually. while gourdy WAS found out to be an inflatable steel samurai this was not brought up in the case at all as the veracity of gourdy wasn't really as relevant as the fact that the witness was looking for gourdy rather than at the murder she claimed to have seen. plus this was also a relatively small part of a MUCH larger trial which for those interested not only solved the dl-6 case but ALSO marked the end of prosecutor von karma's ~40 year long record and the court records are really a fascinating read through!!
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#thanks again lawblr
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🍒 cherriescoola Follow
btw i was at the park the other day and klavier gavin (of gavinners fame) was there and obv there was a huge crowd but this guy was there with him and at some point he (the other guy) waved to the crowd and someone still screamed like it was klavier??? who was that guy ive never seen him before in my life
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🩸 has-dl6-been-solved-yet Follow
December 28, 2016
YES!!!
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🪙 tellerlikeitis Follow
guys help i'm a bank teller and this guy just introduced himself as robin banks what do i do
🔪 violencekilling Follow
you gotta let him rob you that's the law
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👻 ghostesswiththemostest Follow
look if i ever get convicted of murder im just hiring the lawyer with the coolest sounding name
💼 courtofwaw Follow
bestie if you already got convicted it is Too Late
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📋 lawandwhoreder Follow
guys i know it's real fun to think people just can predict whatever but if you look at the earliest reblogs of that post that "guessed" the true killer in the dl-6 case it was actually a post about how they didn't want to go to the store. clearly edited
#stg nobody bothers to factcheck anything anymore
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🐺 lawnewolf Follow
i am NOT homophobic or whatever the fuck you guys are saying now i just think its weird to write fanfiction about realass people?? go touch grass ffs
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the fun police (this guy) putting me in yaoi court but the lawyers (phoenix witrght and miles edgeworth) just keep trying to make out (real court is like this too btw)
🐺 lawnewolf Follow
YOU HAVE SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU.
#look idc what your enemies to lovers fic bullshit says #they're straight. and more importantly REAL PEOPLE. #there's TENSION because they are in COURT and there are LIVES on the LINE. #not because they wanna fuck. god.
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🔮 inhighspirits Follow
why dont they just ask the spirit mediums to ask the victims who killed them this law shit is easy
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seriously i cant believe they gave this guy a law degree
💞 lawveyourself Follow
what do you mean evidence fraud
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🎧 instrumentalillness Follow
fuck you *unguilties your love*
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🎀 copiicat Follow
perjury isnt illegal btw in fact if youre one of tge witnesses youre legally required to lie on the stand. thats why everyone does it. trust me
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Okay, I have quite a lot 😁 here: 3, 9, 10, 31, 38, 39, 49, 65 and 100 please 😗💭
3. Favourite Assistant?
Kay Faraday, my beloved. Little thief of my heart; Yatagarasu of my soul <3
9. Least favourite character?
My honest answer is the culprit of the flashback case of AAI 2, who just infuriates and *aggravates* me in the way that no other character in the series does. I mean, they work well as a villain; I just see red whenever I think of this guy. 
But it feels like a cop-out to pick an obscure character from the spinoff game that doesn’t have any other stans or discourse about them. So in terms of a more popular character....
If I have to pick a “main/major,” I’m gonna go with Maya. I don’t dislike her; I’m just massively indifferent and the fandom is so ga-ga about her (to the point of not really liking other female characters/assistants because.. #NotMyBurgerQueen) that it annoys me.
If I’m allowed to pick a character that is major/significant but not a “main,”  we’re gonna go with Dahlia because the “girl-boss-ification” of her by portions of the fandom aggravates me to no end. I mean, yes there is potential to view her sympathetically and yeah, the way she was treated by her parents and Terry Fawles is all kind of messed-up. But Diego Armando did not “get what was coming to him” by pointing out that first-degree murder (which Dahlia had already successfully gotten away with at that point so it’s not like it even benefitted her) is like a major crime. And Phoenix Wright, Doug Swallow, and Maya Fey literally did nothing to deserve what Dahlia tried to (and succeeded in Doug’s case)  do to them.
10. Favourite trial from all the games?
Rise From the Ashes. Even if the unstable jar puzzle is the bane of my existence.
I once heard someone say that they judge every AA case in comparison to RTFA and every AA culprit in reference to Gant. And while I had never really thought about it that way myself, it makes so much sense and I guess I sort of do the same. As a standalone case, it’s wonderful; as a thematic reflection of some of the broader themes of the series, it’s wonderful. As a foreshadowing of Apollo Justice in terms of both character developments (we see the first glimpse of Phoenix’s manipulative sides) and future characters, it’s wonderful. 
It brought us the Skye sisters and the Blue Badger and Edgeworth’s fancy car. 
And Gant is just...he’s the best villain, full-stop.  There are others I personally love more (Kristoph obvi) but taking personally preferences aside, it’s got to be Gant. He’s fun and playful and funny, while also being genuinely menacing. Of all the AA villains, he’s the one that most gives me supervillain/Disney villain vibes  and that is the highest compliment I can give. In a series as absurd (affectionate) and over-the-top as Ace Attorney, you really need baddies who are Extra in every respect, fun to watch/interact with, and still be a legitimate and intimidating threat. 
31. Character you wish was playable?
I would say Gregory Edgeworth or Mia Fey, but we do actually get to play as each of them briefly (the flashback case of AAI 2 for Greg and the two cases of AA3 for Mia)--though we should definitely get the opportunity to play more from their POV.
The heart says Lang, because I love him so much and he’s so underrated and just give me more of my wolf boy.  
We also get to see a bit of young MVK in the same flashback case of AAI 2 (though we don’t get to play him sadly) which also makes me think that it would be so fun to just have an Investigations typegame of him and baby!Gant running around Japanifornia in the early part of their career and having a “gumshoe/edgeworth but EVUL” dynamic. (Even if I can’t exactly see them giving us a villain protagonist spinoff prequel game). 
Oh wait, no I lied. It’s Justine Courtney. On the one hand, the idea of a spinoff where you play as the judge instead of an attorney is appealing in and of itself but on the other hand, I love her and she’s pretty just bring her back, please. But the Lang game still applies. 
38. Plot Twist that came as the biggest surprise to you?
So....I actually came into the fandom knowing most of the significant plot twists. With the possible exception of the fact that Beanix was in fact the Phoenix we know and love...but as we find this out right away in AJ, I am not sure it really counts as a “plot twist.” Just a surprising beginning to a later game in the series.
So this isn’t  even much of a plot twist--big or small-- just like a character that the fandom seldom talks about and I therefore didn’t know existed until I watched a PW vs PL walkthrough. But my favorite “plot twist” is.... Sir Constantine, brave knight of Labriynthia. His courage, his fierceness, his cute face, his comical disdain for our favorite spiky boy. He’s perfect; he’s precious; he’s underrated. There’s barely any official art for him and I can’t understand it.
To a related extent, I sort of missed the initial mention of Vongole during my first experience of AJ and so I had no idea that this canine princess (who we’ve never actually seen *sobs*) would become so beloved to me and such a key player in my Kris/Krisnix head canons. 
39. Honest opinion on Larry Butz?
I was initially kind of meh about him. He was a little annoying, but you could tell his heart was in the right place. I was also slightly biased in his favor (similar to Godot and Nahyuta) because a lot of the fandom have really unfairly negative interpretations and feelings about him which brings out my own contrarian and protective instincts. 
I really started to like him when I started interacting more with people who genuinely like him and when I started engaging with some of the ships with him in it. (Especially klarry, my beloved). He’s just a fun character who is in many ways one of the more relatable ones in the game (if not the most flattering) as his short attention span/easy distractibility, love of silliness, and profound emotional sensitivity definitely resonates with me as someone with adhd (which like...not to armchair-diagnose fictional characters, but like...Larry definitely has adhd.  as do gumshoe and kay, but like Larry even more so than them, which is why they have my heart. )
49. Victim you would’ve liked to see more of? (Not e.g. victim of the second case of the first game. A victim we haven’t seen basically anything of!)
I feel like I can’t really go with the obvious answers of Clay Terran or Byrne Faraday, as while we barely see them in the games themselves we do hear Apollo and Kay talk about them enough that we get a pretty good sense of them. 
With that in mind, I  think Constance Courte, the victim of the Themis case in Dual Destinies has a lot of interesting potential. She was a mentor to Klavier and later to Juniper (and also has potential to have been one/ a kind figure to Sebastian during his time there--as he was in the same year as Klavier). I also read a fic once where she had a nice friendship with Gregory that gave me feelings. 
Otherwise, Cindy Stone as it seemed like she genuinely loved Larry back and it would’ve been nice to see him happy and stable. 
65. Outfit you���d like to wear?
In terms of overall outfits in official AA art, I will go with Franziska’s teal dress in the “formal” wear promo image.
In terms of outfits that are actually worn in one of the games,
I mean as much as I’d like to say one of the outfits in DGS/The Great Ace Attorney or the Layton crossover, because fantasy/historical fashion aesthetic. In terms of something I might actually feel comfortable wearing out in public in real life (i.e. not Halloween or a fandom event), I’d say probably one of Ema’s outfit minus the labcoat, or Adrian Andrews’ are probably closest to my real-life style. (I’m not nearly as...flashy as most AA characters, lol).
100. Phoenix Wright or Miles Edgeworth? Who do you like better?
It depends. Like really, it all depends on what exactly one means by “like better.” 
I’ll be honest that initially I wasn’t a massive fan of either of them in the Trilogy games. 
 Similarly with Maya, I just didn’t get the Edgeworth hype at all until the Investigations games, which made me love him. I think it’s because his primary interactions in the Trilogy are with Phoenix or (as in the case of Gumshoe, MVK, and Franzi) are filtered through Phoenix’s own interactions and interpretations and with his public persona as the “Demon Prosecutor.” 
Whereas, we get to see a lot more of who he actually *is* in Investigations and specifically what it’s like for him to interact with characters who aren’t in total awe of him (the way 90% of the characters in the main games are) and who challenge and question and tease him.  He’s so much richer a character in the spinoffs than the main games and it makes me so sad that so much of the fandom doesn’t get to enjoy the gift that is Miles’ AAI characterization.
As for Phoenix, I was largely indifferent to him in most of the Trilogy. Like he was just a fairly generic protagonist who is likable and relatable enough to facilitate the plot but doesn’t really have much of a unique special spark.( I feel similar to him as I do to Luke Skywalker in the SW Trilogy and Frodo Baggins in LOTR  that it’s impossible to really *dislike* them but they are definitely overshadowed by their supporting casts.) And as for Wright’s “Feenie,” phase  well, I’ve always found it rather insufferable and try not to think too much about it. 
It really took Phoenix becoming a DILF  maturing into a more complex, confident, and morally-ambiguous character in the Post-Trilogy games for me to really love him. Even though I sort of wish he was no longer playable, as he works better as mentor-type figure imo.
So for me, “do you like Phoenix or Edgeworth better” is a question of Investigations Edgeworth or Post-Trilogy Phoenix? As to that, the heart says Post Trilogy Phoenix because handsome and charming and a little dangerous and part of my OTP, but the head says Investigations Edgeworth because he brings something more unique to the table.
That being said, this doesn’t seem like a good answer/comparison since majority of the fandom only knows the Trilogy. So if I am forced to pick between Trilogy!Nick and Trilogy!Miles, I’m gonna go with Phoenix, as I like him slightly more than Miles based on trilogy characterizations alone. 
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hi this post is just me rambling about villains. spoilers for all the main games and both investigations games under the cut
ok i have been wondering abt what all the like.. endgame villains would think of each other (largely inspired by twitter rp folks but also just. in general lol). gonna go thru them roughly in order and. prob leave out engarde bc he only orchestrated the one case and fucked that one up big time. focus on trilogy+aa4/investigations bc i am me, mentions of & spoilers for the 3d games but no sections for them
von karma- i imagine he’s generally disdainful of like. everyone who isn’t him but i think he probably worked with gant at some point when he was a detective and prob like... is vaguely amused by him and respects his thoroughness and willingness to forge shit lol. i imagine he had a vaguely combative dynamic w blaise debeste just bc they both have such huge pushy personalities and i imagine mvk didnt like being deferential to ANYONE including his boss (im p interested in their dynamic actually i wrote abt him killing blaise for a reason ha) he’s probably disinterested/actively disdainful of dahlia and kristoph bc he still does generally loathe Criminals and defense attorneys
gant- vague amusement for everyone probably. again, i imagine he and mvk knew each other, he prob liked mocking him all the time lol. probably got on disgustingly well with blaise. i think he’d like kristoph bc they both have like. the strongest case of the Corrupted Law Person Villain types for having at some point had a desire to see justice through that got warped by paranoia and self-interest  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
dahlia- vague respect for all of them just for getting away with mad shit for as long as they did haha; paired with some resentment/distaste for the Awful Parent types (mvk, blaise, ga’ran. actually i think a lot of them would dislike ga’ran just bc. who DOES like a totalitarian tyrant u kno). thinks kristoph’s specific methods of poison are cool and clever. i think her and simon would get along the best of any of them just bc they had similar trajectories of ‘trying to survive in an awful situation’ -> ‘petty and cruel violence for its own sake/for largely unfounded ideas of revenge’
calisto (yes i include her in all of these rather than alba bc he’s boring and i like her lol)- probably has vague disdain for all of them that r directly involved with govt/law enforcement and vague respect for everyone else lol. probably likes the others who use Sneaky methods more (simon, kristoph). i think she’d get along well with dahlia in general bc they both are just. Mean and mock p much everyone they encounter ha. also i rlly like the concept that she and the phantom are the same person bc it makes the phantom way more interesting HA
simon- he probably loathes like. most of the other villains bc of his experience w govt and the law and... most adults in general lol. dahlia is the only one he vaguely likes, same reasons as i said in her bit. he hates the ones directly associated with The Law more and especially mvk (who i imagine directly prevented him from bein identified after IS-7 so contributed to him getting stuck at the orphanage -> getting involved in SS-5 and getting no rest or safety for the rest of his life bc of it). this is mostly expansion on his whole deal w blaise lol (i also LOVE the idea that he killed blaise in prison at some point post-canon, there’s a specific fic i read where he got him and his own dad at the same time and it’s good and fitting and satisfying to the pt that i consider it canon). he probably vaguely dislikes violence that’s not done for the sake of revenge or self-protection
blaise (aai2 gets two bc it’s excellent and just the one of them is actually reprehensible)- probably vaguely friendly/condescending with mvk and gant at the same time as being 100% ready to wipe either of them out at a moment’s notice. tbh i have no clue if he has any dislike of murderers/criminals in general (in the hypocritical ‘as long as its not me’ mvk or kristoph way lol) bc he seems to have got his position just out of a desire for power. god this guy sucks
kristoph- prob disdainful of all the earlier ones bc they Got Caught and he totally thought he was infallible lol. also he’s just disdainful in general its a personality trait. i dont have anything more specific for him fuck kristoph
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