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What do you think about the powers of the demigods in canon? Especially those of the children of the Big Three?
I love Percy but I think Rick went a bit overboard with all the powers he gave him. Thalia and Jason are children of the king of the gods and have pretty pathetic powers, at least in my opinion.
In GENERAL, I'm pretty okay with Percy's powerset. I think healing him with water was maybe a BIT much, and it seems wildly unfair to have him be able to control ALL types of liquid. Like, sure I'll accept lakes and rivers and stuff because those would have nereids or some other kind of spirit who might have some sort of allegiance to Poseidon, but I feel like it should for sure be up to them what powers he gets and how much control he has. It's kind of hard to put a HARD limit on what his powers should be though because Poseidon has just a LAUNDRY list of titles. The talking to horses thing ABSOLUTELY has to stay, idc what other powers you take from him.
Nico and Hazel I feel are in a pretty good spot, in all honesty. I really like the fact that Nico's powers focus more on the dead whereas Hazel's focuses on the riches aspect of Hades/Pluto. I haven't read ToA or TSATS so I'm not SUPER familiar with all of Nico's powers beyond raising the dead, but his powers do seem to really overshadow Hazel's sometimes, which is a bit of a bummer. She does have her Mist skills, though, so maybe that balances it out.
Now. The REAL talking point. Thalia and Jason. While it does seem like their powers are absolutely wimpy compared to the other three Big Three kids we've seen, I don't NECESSARILY think that's a bad thing? Like, the powers demigods have are often described as gifts from their parents. Zeus... doesn't strike me as the type to be handing out gifts to his kids, and I think that would go DOUBLE for Jason. Like, not only is Jason not even really his kid anymore after he gave him to Juno, there is a bit of a... family tradition of the youngest son killing and overthrowing his dad. I highly doubt Jupiter is gonna pile his bouncing baby boy with the tools needed to kill and overthrow him. That being said, I think it would have been neat to see Jupiter give him powers that wouldn't necessarily be enough to overpower gods, such as making him extra strong or just SUPER sturdy. Jason survived getting struck by lightning? Oh, he's not immune to lightning, he's just built like that. Stuff that would give Jason the edge over most demigods so that Jupiter can brag about his son being better than everyone, but not enough to be a threat. Also, my BIGGEST gripe about Jason's powers is that he should be able to use them as easy as breathing. He doesn't even have to THINK about it. Like, number one he is JUPITER'S kid. The air is his father's domain it does what he says no questions asked. And number two he's been doing this since before he learned how to spell his name. He has as much training than the rest of the Seven PUT TOGETHER. Thalia is a slightly different case, because I honestly think she would actively avoid using any powers that relate her to her father, like, at all. She could be twice as tricked out as Percy and she'd still be like "Fuck you, dad, I'm not using any of this shit." I mean, her most iconic weapon is her shield which is a symbol of ATHENA. She wants as little to do with Zeus as possible, so there's no telling what her powers could be if she actual tried to use them. Probably not very much, if I'm being honest because Zeus is shit.
Anywho, sorry for the yap! Thanks for the question!
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OKAY I LOVE THIS SO MUCH I LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE ADD THINGS TO MY IDEAS AND NOW THIS IS MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO INFODUMP
2) I was planning on having it take place after Jason’s death, even though I haven’t actually read up to that bit yet. I think Leo’s survivor’s guilt from being the one brought back and not him would DEFINITELY play into the angst and the PTSD. I was thinking similar along the lines of what you said about them both struggling- I wan thinking of having some Leo/Hazel bonding moments over both the choice to give up their lives and dealing with being given a second chance. Leo and Hazel’s friendship is not talked about enough, and I think her being able to help him as someone who’s been there is so powerful. Also, Frank is there to comfort him as well. ALSO YES PHYSICAL SCARRING IS GONNA BE A BIG THING!! I am OBSESSED with the hc of Leo being Hard of Hearing after the explosion. Specifically deaf in one ear and chronic tinnitus in the other. I’ve been writing it into all my post-hoo fics (In my married Valgrace ones, Leo uses a hearing aid and also Jason and him both know ASL and morse code to communicate sometimes). I think for this fic prosthetics might be a little detracting from the main theme, because it’s all about Leo trying to hide how he’s struggling, but scars DEFINITELY and also hearing loss. I’m writing amputee/lost limb Leo into some other fics though.
5) YES YES YES I was gonna write this fic as a precursor to my “Jason comes out to CJ” fic. I like the whole “expectations of him as a Praetor to uphold Roman Values” as sort of a homophobia metaphor, and Jason being able to be a bit more relaxed at chb and with Leo where he can just get away from all the expectations to be the perfect Roman sort of being an extension to his canon arc. I might have to wait until I read TSATS to finish it though, because I want to learn more about Piper’s gf.
7-8-9) PUTTING THEM ALL AS THE SAME FIC WOULD BE GENIUS- it might be a bit clunky because of time skips and tone shifts but if I could make it work… Yh honestly the “Jason taking Leo’s last name” hc is JUST SO CUTE I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT ALL DAY AFTER I WROTE IT I COULD NOT FOCUS ON ANYTHING ELSE JUST AAAAHHHH. I am not normal about them.
12) THIS IS SO GOOD and def inspired me to keep writing it. YES Leo latches onto Luke’s idea of blaming Hephaestus bc he doesn’t want to admit that he secretly blames himself, but deep down he doesn’t believe Luke. It’s so interesting to explore Luke’s manipulation from Luke’s side. Because he is genuinely angry at the Gods for abandoning Leo- he really does have sympathy for this kid and wants to bring the Gods to justice for all the damage they caused Leo, Annabeth, his Mom, all the people he loves. But he’s also not got a very healthy outlet for his anger, but kinda uses Leo’s trauma to justify that. He doesn’t have plans to overthrow the Gods yet, but he feels like he needs to convince people to see his way of thinking so that he doesn’t feel wrong for being angry.
The way I was writing this fic was multiple POVs- Thalia, Luke, Annabeth and Leo’s, so I could explore both Luke’s desperation to justify his anger, and Leo’s willingness to accept a person to blame, plus Thalia’s fear from having to keep these two 9-10 year olds safe (in my fic Annabeth ran away a bit later/for a bit longer, so she’s 10 by this point and Leo has already been on the run for a year), while Luke is spouting his bullshit and she just wants to keep her new family from falling apart like her old one did. And Luke’s promise of family being the thing Annabeth clings onto for dear life, relating to Leo who was also cast out by his blood relatives, secretly knowing that Luke has issues and is manipulating her but trying to convince Leo that “he’s here to look after us. He’s just trying to protect us” to brush off the bad feelings she gets from him and justify his actions because he’s her whole world. And maybe having to convince Leo of that too, saying it out loud, or seeing Luke doing the manipulation to somebody else, might make her actually have to confront the fact that Luke’s way of thinking is wrong.
Leo joining the wrong side and realising later is so interesting, seeing as he HAS been manipulated his whole life- by Hera and Gaea- leaving him with pretty bad trust issues. Luke being the only person who treated him decently since escaping the foster homes would mean he gets attached pretty quickly, and his own self-hatred being something that drives him to not really care if he’s a good person or not (similar to my Leo Villain Arc AU I published a couple weeks ago).
And in terms of turning him back I just had a thought when you talked about him meeting Percy-
BECKENDORF’S SACRIFICE?
Like imagine you’re part of the Titan army, trying to overthrow your dad for abandoning you to starve on the streets, and your brother just gave his life to stop you because he genuinely believed these omnipotent assholes are worth fighting for. Maybe that makes Leo more angry, seeing as how Hephaestus let it happen. But maybe it makes him realise that he’s on the wrong side.
OOH! OOH! I JUST HAD ANOTHER THOUGHT- What if Beckendorf actually confronted Leo about it in the moments of before his death on the Princess Andromeda, asks him to come home, and that Hephaestus didn’t abandon them because he gave them a family and a cabin at chb- it was always there, waiting for Leo. He didn’t intervene when he was being cast out because he knew that eventually Leo WOULD find his family- his brothers and sisters- and that he’d be alright in the end. “It’s not flawless dad logic, but he had the best intentions,” Beckendorf says, “Come home, lil’ bro. We miss you.” And then he fucking explodes.
THANK YOU SO SO MUCH @ginnyluna FOR THIS RESPONSE
And I mean that. I’ve been writing all these fics and hyperfixating on them and I just wanted to talk to someone about them (which is kinda why I did this poll)
These comments were all amazing (and all the other ones I’ve been getting- you guys have such awesome ideas)
Most of these would be finished at some point the poll was just to help me see which ones I might want to prioritise (but it honestly depends on which ones I’m inspired to write).
Yeah. Don’t hesitate to share your thoughts- it genuinely made me happy-stim so fucking hard when I saw how long this reply was because I was like ‘CONTENT!!! YAYY!! SOMEONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT MY ART WITH ME!!!”
SERIOUSLY THANK YOU
Raise your hand if you have a million bajillion works-in-progress!!!
Because I sure as hell do.
Anyway, I want to see which ones I should prioritise, so I’m doing a poll. Out of the 97 fic concepts i have in the vault, all with varying levels of completion, I have narrowed it down to 12 (the max number of poll options on Tumblr).
Please Vote!
Category 1- ANGST:
1. Ok not too many spoilers for this one but it’s SUPER angsty. All I can say is Leo faces a very creative punishment from Nemesis for cheating the prophecy and coming back to life, and it’s called “The only sad person in paradise” (undertones of Valgrace).
2. Leo deals with coping with the trauma of dying. LOT of angsty headcanons, including one where the design for the chb bead for the summer hoo is set in was the moment of Leo’s death. And he just has to keep that around his neck the whole time, and it’s chocking him. The opening line is “Every so often, Leo needed to remind himself that his heart was still beating.”
3. A curse befalls camp half-blood that’s slowly reversing the effects of their powers. Hecate cabin’s spells are being undone, plants are un-growing, arms healed by Apollo cabin are re-breaking. Magic is being unwound, and then Leo’s body starts to ache, and he realises… does that include a certain Physician’s Cure?
Category 2- VALGRACE
4. Platonic Valgrace (Romance implied)- “Never go to bed angry”- Leo and Jason have an argument on the Argo II. Jason thinks Leo won’t understand him because he’s never had to live up to the expectations of leadership that come with being a child soldier. Leo thinks Jason won’t understand him because he’s never had to fend for himself, he believes everything Jason has is because of who his father is. They storm off (Jason in the literal sense), argue with themselves for a bit- I did a really cool thing where I switch POVs every line or so, as their arguments parallel each other, like in a TV show where two characters are rehearsing a conversation with the other, but using the HOO multiple-POV thing- and then they go to sleep. They both have weird vision/flashbacks/prophetic dreams, where they experience a day in the other’s childhood. They then realise they completely misunderstood one another, and they’re not as different as they thought.
5. Jason and Leo go to New York pride. That’s the whole fic.
6. Instead of… whatever that ending to BOO was, the Gods reward Leo for his sacrifice by bringing Esperanza Valdez back to life. She thanks Jason for taking care of Leo while she was gone, and they have a heart-to-heart. They are officially boyfriends in this. Jason keeps being reminded of his own reunion with Thalia, and how Leo had stayed with him through that. He vows to do the same.
Category 3- MARRIED VALGRACE:
7. Leo and Jason get married (A classic “Wedding Episode”)
8. Just a fic describing married life with Leo and Jason- it’s called “Violets and Marigolds”
9. A fic from the POV of Leo and Jason’s kid, Isabella Valdez. Some angst, but I don’t have the full plot outlined yet. She’s adopted, and they don’t know her true godly heritage, and Leo suspects she might be mortal, and maybe Lupa made a mistake. Leo and Jason argue over whether she should join the Legion (They’re living in New Rome). Leo struggles with his fear of hurting the people he loves with his powers.
Category 4- MISCELLANEOUS:
10. Platonic Perleo- Percy and Leo get captured by government agents and have to escape Area 51 (Vaguely inspired by an episode of Helluva Boss)- VERY NERDY. This is a very fun one.
11. Leo talks to Hestia about… life, I guess. I started writing this while still on TLH and never found an ending, but it’s a good concept. Leo learns to accept his powers as something that can be good, when he only sees the bad. Hestia tells him “If fire was only about danger and destruction, then it would be the symbol of Ares, not Hephaestus.”
12. Thalia, Luke and Annabeth find little Leo while on the run. Leo and Annabeth bond over engineering. Luke tries to use Leo’s trauma as leverage to get Leo angry at the Gods. He tries to put the blame of Leo’s mom’s death on Hephaestus, since he’s responsible for giving Leo his powers. He points out how the Gods are all-powerful, and yet they leave the four of them- their own children- to starve on the streets. Leo in canon harbours a lot of resentment for his situation growing up, and Luke could easily spin that to justify his own anger.
Tagging people who might be interested:
@four-leafed-queer-gal @lavenderfairiez @child-of-helios @green-tea217 @puzzled-pegasus @imasimpdealwithit @123letsgobestie @ginnyluna @euryvices @ollieisanerd @sleepyycapybara @twomanyfandomshelp @lokiwiiiiiii @yoshuko-ew @keefessketchbook @frankzhang-appreciation-posts @hollow8007 @fairytalesociology @via-rant @daonedaonlyskh
If you have any suggestions for things to add to these fics- leave them in the comments. A lot of these I’ve struggled to flesh out/find endings for. Any help is much appreciated and you will be tagged in the fic if I use it.
Also, Lmk if you want to be tagged in any/all of these!
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