#or ''finn didnt get to know his family before he was stolen from them so he was LUCKY bc he didnt know what he was missing''

[audiovisualrecall]

Also! The reason I had the ides that what if rey had been kidnapped with the idea of making her into the new Darth whatever, was that when that plan failed as she was grabbed by someone else and left on the planet, the bad guys went with her brother/cousin Ben solo, and they decide to be more subtle about leading him to fascism and the dark side than kidnapping since it didn't work last time, and it works well on him. he's already a reactive child also, thats just part of who he is. Makes it easy to tell him whos to blame for the unfairness of xyz things tho. Like why his parents are so distracted or distant or at odds w each other or whatever - bc han is away searching for rey all the time and leia wants to focus on ben but she has her duties as well, and luke offers to train ben but he's angry a lot but luke knows he was, too, and it didnt stop him from Choosing to be who he is and not his own father's route, so he doesnt worry. (I wonder if her name was different or longer originally.... did she name herself, was that her name from her family? Hm)

(even if ben/kylo is not as strong in the force initially as rey was seen as? Maybe? Hes still the bad guys' choice due to his bloodline)

Also poe/finn and poe being important and finn being a jedi!!!

Also absolutely would have a family reveal , preferably before hand dies if he still has to?? I mean I understand the idea of the OGs leaving the stage and the newbies taking the lead, and even that involving said OG characters dying, it being killed, and the emotional impact of kylo killing his own father as an act of him actively Choosing the dark side. I also like the idea that he can't do the same to his mother, he put his blame on his father bc he was always out looking for the stolent sister, and klyo always resented both of them. Also maybe kylo has a feeling that rey is important before the reveal but doesn't know why. Han feels like rey is his child even before he finds out, or maybe for tragedy's sake he doesn't get to learn this info and only rey and kylo and then leia know it. Let's make us cry more! But rey appreciates han's affection and fatherly guidance especially when she learns he is her family all along, and the story of what happened comes out at the same time as the relation reveal, so she doesn't have to wonder why she was left, bc she was kidnapped, he kept looking for her for years and years. Also Han and leia's somewhat estrangement being bc one child was stolen and the other led astray, Han blames himself and doesn't want to hear if leia does, too, he redoubles his efforts to find their child, to hide from the possibility that she blames him, and meanwhile leia doesn't but she has so much to mourn, again and again. At least they got to meet again and hug and kiss and hold each other and maybe even talk, a little bit, resolve that, even if they still don't know that the girl in front of them is their long lost child. After Han is killed, rey goes back to leia knowing this is her mother, and tells her, and they hold each other and grieve, but also gain solace in finding each other again.

The new trio fight kylo and the first order and eventually thru whatever methods they do win and defeat the dark side again and the republic is still a thing and can recover without needing to be rebuilt once again from scratch.

Luke trains rey and finn despite blaming himself for Kyle's being led astray, and not being able to find rey (he ran away instead of doing what han did for years). They reinvent being a jedi again.

leia and Luke maybe do get killed in the final battles idk. I would hate for one to have to go on alone, and I don't think there's anything wrong with their deaths as part of the narrative? Especially due to Carrie passing away meaning her character cant continue being on screen in future without being cgi.. but also Maybe they do live on, leia helps mend the republic and rey lives with her when she's not traveling or training new jedi with Luke and finn. Luke eventually accepted he was not to blame for what happened with ben/kylo ren, and that he can and should train new jedi once more, because there needs to be a balance and the dark side will try again, so they need to have jedi, and they need to have plans, and methods.

Finn, I mentioned inspired the stormtroopers to break their brainwashing and fight back and they were essential to winning against the first order and the dark side. He is trained as a jedi alongside rey, he is an inspiration that fear can be overcome, that you can be brave, that strength is inside you, and that your origins, or what you've been taught (or made) to believe don't determine who you can become and be. He is strong in the force and in the light, he is like Luke, believing in others. Rey is a little feral gremlin at heart. Poe is the dashing heroic pilot etc. He's trained by leia to be a leader/politician, as well, he also is good at inspiring others.

I like the idea of rey's story being about family, and while that helps save the day to an extent, it's FINN, who isn't related to the skywalkers or solos who is the hero who lives up to the best of the jedi. Alongside his boyfriend, poe.

...and their feral friend rey who is preoccupied with personal stuff. Lol.

The end, things are hopeful and good, even with grieving loss, and knowing they have to be aware that it could happen again, that it's not as easy as Luke thought after everything with his father and Palpatine, its not finished after defeating one evil. It will always try to come back, so whatever shape that takes isn't anyone's fault. But they can try to find ways to prepare and prevent it from gaining a strong foothold again.

The end I have rewritten the sequel films.

[yellowis4happy]

Thank you for the most succinct comeback to Whatserface’s idiocy I’ve ever seen. No waffling, no trying to argue your point, just a quick ‘there is something deeply wrong with you’ and a block. Beautiful. She’s going to keep trying to link your name now and get you to unblock and debate her, because that’s her kink or something. I’d suggest reporting her, and blocking any of her followers who try to debate you for her by proxy. I’m sorry, you are right that there is something deeply wrong here.

She can do whatever she wants bc I've already forgotten her username 💖

[sometipsygnostalgic]

adventure time wizard city liveblog

 well here we go

my last adventure time liveblog, i havent actually done one of these in MANY years... probably not since 2014

this takes place at the same time as obsidian?

DID-- DID CHOOSE GOOSE JUST DIE

DID BUFO JUST KILL CHOOSE GOOSE

yeah i know that’s bufo, they only made it enormously obvious, tsk tsk

@spaceacepearl​ joked about us seeing choose goose get sent to hell but i diDNT EXPECT IT TO HAPPEN

This music is i assume by one of the many musical artists Adam Muto listed on twitter, it rocks. It’s not as hardcore as Obsidian’s intro, but it’s suitably chill for the scene. 

“get offa my bus kid”

Those wizards in the left and far right groups appear to be new! 

OH MY GOD--

HELP?????? NEW PROFILE PIC TIME

HAHAHAHAH

THE MUSICAL CON DID ME GOOD, I DID REALLY LOUD AUDIBLE LAUGHTER

i bet hanna and co had fun making these signs

my favourite is the cat with “FAMILIARS HAVE RIGHTS”

cadorka..... wow

We’re not even four minutes into the ep and peppermint butler has already killed someone in front of a large group of witnesses

“this smells of DARK MAGIC” “yall kids know thats illegal right” peps watches the other kids nod before later joining in, LOL

i cant believe pep started the great gum wars and got killed by golb

SOMEONE has been playing Overwatch... 

i-- i still cant believe choose goose is fucking dead

how long was he stuck in hell for, or was that recent to together again after new death showed up 

i have to admit im not a big fan of spader, too perfect, and not in that funny way either. i hope they give him some characteristics that make him stand out. 

im getting flashbacks to OK KO and Owl House here...

Cadebra using music is a reference to Abracadaniel’s love of interpretetive dance in Play Date. 

“they only laugh because youre different” “i know” “SO STOP BEING DIFFERENT” oh my god it’s like talking to my own parents cadebra is actually... a LOT like me, less in her hyperactivity but more in her nonchalant enthusiasm and almost acceptance of the inevitable bullying because it means more time in people’s consciousness

ahhh - it’s quietly revealed here that she is responsible and a skilled magician, she is just bored of magic! i like that she parents abracadaniel instead of being downtrodden by his ramblings. 

PEP NO--- oh i see the problem, he hasn’t got his Bug Milk... sorry Martin Olsen fans, no Hunson today. At least we get one more Phil Face for the road! 

candy people in their natural habitat

Ahhh that’s Doctor Calidoneus! The voice actor was at the recent Distant Lands panel alongside Pep and Blaine’s actors. 

“pretty sure hes just trashcandy” - i like you, sassy antler lady

the mystery of how he gets clothes

and once again spader is proving to be the most irritating distant lands character of the lot, there is no subversion here. where is the subversion?  

NANI

what is going on here? are pep and peppermint the same person or not? im sure they must be, but there is something going on here with peppermint butler’s soul being trapped in the body of his child self who hasn’t got the same memories. 

OH, HYNDEN WALCH DID A NEW LINE yes this is what im here for, special over 

peppermint butler cursed himself... of course he did - Shado was correct!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT THE FUCK

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

ROCK STUDENT, BLESSED ROCK STUDENT, WAS THAT POOR GUY WHO LOOKS LIKE A JAWBREAKER

love the reference to astral plane, of course pep cant astrally project because cursed pep is still inside of him 

wow, blaine, wow

they have a crush

LITTLE DUDE! COLE SANCHEZ!

i love the dynamic between cadebra and abracadaniel, imo so far it’s the heart of the special. im not really gripped by peppermint butler’s school troubles. i imagine someone else probably will be but i want to run past that shit as far as possible. 

TRDGFYGHJH

WE

WE MADE  A PREDICTION THAT WAS JUST LIKE THIS

PEPPERMINT BUTLER GETTING TURNED INTO THE FOUR COMPONENTS OF PEPPER MINT BUTT LURE WAS IN THE WIZARD CITY PREDICTIONS ART DRAW THAT HASNT BEEN POSTED YET

ILL SHOW YOU WHEN NICK POSTS THE VIDEO and then ill tell you who made the prediction because i... think it was nick himself, insanity 

who plagiarized finn’s signature???

turns out pep really DID take over wizard city!!!!

i love this band

i understand your pain peps

you probably have a bit too much in common with your mother, and i imagine it isn’t easy being turned into a kid and not being able to do stuff that came so easy. you’re disappointing yourself! (he’s literally disappointing himself)

I’m less than halfway through the special, what the fuck. I wasn’t wrong when I said Wizard City had a lot on its plate. It’s noit that I’ve been particularly gripped up to this point, though to be fair I didn’t pause at all during the other specials barring Obsidian. 

that... that poor kid is still a rock

and then the preview happened and bufo casually revealed to the audience that, yes, he killed choose goose

i dont know whats happening with pep but it seems he needs to be exorcised of... pep. which is a shame. i hope they learn to coexist. 

i have to say the background work in this special is really good! like, really damn good. 

WH

WHAT

DID SPADER JUST DIE

IS THIS WHY PEOPLE THINK PEPBUT KILLED HIM 

oh thats right - abracadaniel is cadebra’s uncle! this must be abracadniels sister. sorry, folks, he doesn’t fuck. 

Where are they? Is this anywhere near Wizard City? It’s an unpopulated prewar wasteland. 

THESE ARE JUST HUMANS

OF COURSE SHE WANTS TO PERFORM TO MILQUETOAST HUMANS

my child

is this an art style choice or did they get the people from that one studio to make this

HANNA FINALLY GETS TO FULFIL HER DREAM OF INSERTING KANEDA INTO ADVENTURE TIME

the red jacket he wears and his head pill shape is a big kaneda reference actually, which i suppose makes sense considering he’s a rival to our protagonist, but it’s a bit on the nose

bufo killed one of his own students? but why????

“MY UNCLE’S A COP”

“no one likes a rat”

i actually really like blaine, though im confused. did their VA change halfway through the special?

HOW NATURAL, NO WASTE, IT IS AN ENDLESS CHAIN

did doctor caledonius steal the trophy,,,? 

EVIL SNAIL EVIL SNAIL

MONMSTER HUNJTER DISCOVERY NOISE, this time it’s a tetsucabra

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I HAVE QUESTIONS

god i wish this is what this special was about, i miss adventure time

these remind me of the comics with their art style :) i wonder who designed them? the one on the right with pb and pep, in particular, very comics-y. 

fdgfhgf because he’s like 500

“pep can be kind of a jerk but he wouldn’t kill anyone”

sorry, cadebra, i have news for you

is doctor calednoius the true villain? if bufo’s out of the picture, she MUST be, 

ANTS

oh no, he might gbe stuck in wizard city :( 

HELP

the writing on the wall...

SPADER LITERALLY FUCKING DIED OH YM JESUS CHRIST

PEPPERMINT BUTLER’S OWN CULT????

THIS IS JUST OK KO NOW

okay im not surprised all the teachers at wizard city are cultists in worship of peps, maybe they killed spader and bufo because they bullied peps T_T

wait no, they thought spader had the potential, but sadly not

HE FUCKING KILLED HIMSELF

sorry, i was distracted by the pretty dope fight sequence and now the special is over????

fucking jesse, hes probably at least partly responsible for the cult nonsense

This credits art is by Maya Petersen!!!! Holy shit it’s adorable!

LRETGFDRGTFGMHGFHFG

LEAF MAN

DO YOU THINK THEY PUT HIM IN RETROSPECTIVELY

DO YOU THINK MAYA PETERSEN DREW THIS AND ADAM PUT IT IN THE EP RETROSPECTIVELY

HE LIVES

MAYBE THIS IS WHY CHOOSE GOOSE WENT TO HELL

okay, it’s over :) 

first thoughts out of the way: not a big fan of this special. it’s like watching a completely different show. it’s not got the PZSHAHH of the normal wizard city stuff and there weren’t a lot of funny jokes or even hearty moments in the thing. 

it suffers from a lack of invested character interactions, much like BMO did. there was not a single main cast member in the whole thing! and like i said before, much of peppermint butler’s character in the show is based on his very sweet relationship to his mother, princess bubblegum, so when they showed a single (hilarious) photo of them together it made me sad we didn’t get any scenes with them together. it would have STOLEN this episode. and they teased the hunson golf photo, and death!!! and jake appeared in a photo T_T last jake appearance. 

it also suffers because Peppermint Butler is clearly not himself, imo he was way more entertaining in the Together Again special, where we seem him back to his “normal” self. 

i dont think peps being a dark wizard was something to “kill off” exactly. i wonder what was going on there? was that actually peps, or was that a spirit he cursed himself with based on himself? we at least know in the future he does become a dark wizard again, and even princess :) this special didn’t answer those questions but lol. 

THE GOOD STUFF, because yes, there was a lot of good stuff! 

God, I’m with Aracle and Maya on this - I LOVE Cadebra and her relationship to Pep. I wish she was even in more of this - I would love to watch the adventures of Cadebra and Pepbut in their first year of school, like in the end credits.

That, imo, is where the heart of the special lay - Peppermint Butler’s attempts to impress himself, versus Cadebra’s self acceptance and desire to follow her dreams of being a goofy goober, no matter what other people thought of her. 

It turned out that Cadebra is a responsible student and family member. I really liked that. Her scenes with Abracadaniel were, somehow, my favourite in the entire special! 

I like that theres a lot of cool magic towards the end of this special, and a lot of HORRIFYING DEATH. It wouldn’t be adventure time if you didn’t randomly kill off child characters. Poor Spader, I hated you but damn, what a grim fate. 

I like that Bufo and Caledonius had this crush/hatred thing going on, but they were part of the same cult in the end. 

I didn’t like the giant peps scene at the end, the monster was extremely milquetoast compared to the madness we usually get in AT. Obsidian, for example, had the awesome Larvo design. Nemesis had some INSANE dark magic!!!!  I wish they drew more from that episode. 

Considering how much Steve Little appears in this special, I do feel bad for Mace (little Peps). He said he would have really benefitted from coaching, but recieved none. He had to re-record his lines 3 times! Judging from his description of events, Wizard City was a hard time for him. 

The wizard school did remind me, heavily, of both The Owl House and OK KO. Personally I was hoping AT would offer me something more insane, but I do love both of those shows, and I know Wizard City was on a really tight schedule. 

I think they should have spent less time on the school bullying plot, and skipped straight to MURDER. 

We did have a cold opening, not on par with Together Again’s at all, but damn!

I am wondering where I would put this in the watch list? I do think it should sit after Obsidian as the third special. The intro scene makes it clear this takes place at the same time as Obsidian!!!

Well, that was it, the last ep of AT for the next few years at least T_T

i think together again was the better finale, definitely. but wizard city feels pretty detached from AT for me, despite the familiar characters it tonally isn’t like the show other than the awesome brutal death scenes. I thought the last 11 minutes was easily the best in the special! Which, honestly, is how it should be, though I do wish it gripped me more. Maybe I’m just not the target audience for Wizard City? It feels like something I would find very compelling if I was a bit younger! 

[evilponds]

what ive got so far is: leia is a dalish elf and a hero of the fifth blight who is currently the warden commander of ferelden. she hasnt seen han in years, but knows that not too long ago he'd been betrayed by a trading partner during an expedition into the deep roads shes getting ready to pass that mantle on to her second in command, a human from antiva. poe is an archer 👀 whos slowly been taking more and more of leias responsibilities. he doesnt trust the wardens at weisshaupt, who have been increasingly using their clout for more and more political reasons despite at this point largely being figureheads rey is an elf and an apostate from kirkwall's alienage who took something from a hightown noble. the family itself had stolen the piece in the first place, but that didnt stop them from coming after her. poe ends up conscripting her before any real repercussions can befall her. with very little understanding of her own magic, she seeks out luke, another hero of the fifth blight and a well-known apostate (his apostasy was what had led him to be conscripted, and his prowess with magic was what helped them defeat the fifth archdemon). she finds him on an island off ferelden full of mabari finn is a half-elf templar at the kirkwall circle. he was the son of two mages in kinloch hold, taken from them by the chantry and raised in a monastery. he flees the circle upon learning he's to participate in a harrowing, but upon arriving in ferelden he gets injured by darkspawn while trying to protect the darkspawn's original targets, a travelling family. he undertakes the joining to avoid dying from the taint, but quickly begins to show potential as a warden. he ends up finding the last griffons. they all love him. finn isnt A Mage per se but he does possess magic, albeit an unconventional sort. no one is sure how the templars managed not to detect it all those years, but as he spends more time outside the chantry he begins to understand his magic better thats all i got so far kids..