#original cale henituse

[cale-thames]

Everyone always talks about how baddie White Star is if not for our Cale, as WS destroyed the tboah timeline.

But no one talks about how baddie Choi Han, Alberu, Rosalyn, Lock and ogCale are for surviving 20 years in that very timeline.

[blueteller]

Hello!:D Before I ask like—maybe one of the most persistent questions endlessly bugging my mind, I just wanna say I love your posts sm and I love you for it (>v<)♡

I have noticed that there are side characters that stand out the most compared to other side characters, even if they have limited screentime.

And one of those characters is none other than OgCale.

I can even go as far to say that he's one of the most popular characters ever in the fandom, his popularity can surpass some of the main cast's despite having very little screentime and it's actually pretty fascinating. In other transmigration/reincarnation stories, people don't usually care about the original owner of the body the MC currently possesses—and I get why. But Og!Cale? Heck, he's widely loved by many fans!

And so my question is—

Why is Og!Cale so popular and loved in the TCF fandom? There are other characters out there who may have far more intriguing backgrounds and personalities than him, and yet *gestures to the fandom* several fans absolutely adore him (myself included, hehe).

First of all, thank you for your kind words! I'm very happy you enjoy my posts 💖

As for the matter of OG Cale… Why is he so popular and beloved in particular, despite being one of many great side characters in the series? Excellent question! I actually had to sit down and think about it for a little while. I came to the conclusion that it boils down to three major factors.

Number one, the build-up.

OG Cale was a mystery since the beginning. When Cale transmigrated, the question of what kind of person he really was kept coming up. There were obvious contradictions, such as despite being a troublemaker he only went after gangsters and thugs. He allegedly had a bad relationship with his family, and yet they all cared about him very much. He was meant to be an alcoholic trash who threw and broke things when drunk, and yet his alcohol tolerance was incredible and he always missed when he threw bottles, never actually hurting people.

Basically, OG Cale was suspicious. He was hella sus since the start, and that built intrigue around his character. That isn't the only reason why people love him, of course. Many fans got spoiled about him straight away, before reading the whole story, so that can't be all there is to it. But that's definitely where the interest began.

Number two, the subverted expectations.

Don't forget, OG Cale isn't the only "Cale" who's beloved by the fandom. When we got first introduced to our MC, there was this unspoken first impression that he was a typical, what TV Tropes calls, "Audience Surrogate". You know, the type of protagonist who mostly has no personality, solely for the purpose of being a self-insert for the audience. Not to be confused with "Mary Sue " – that is a type of character who definitely has a defined personality. Although both protagonist types serve the same purpose, the latter has more to do with how the overall story is written, and how everybody acts like they're the center of the universe, and how things only happen around them, or directly because of them.

Cale, Kim Rok Soo, was in "danger" of becoming either type of MC at the beginning of the story. Because of how he was trying to sell us the idea of how totally normal of a guy he is, and how he just wants to be left alone in peace, that's all, he swears. I've seen both Audience Surrogate MCs and Mary Sues who claim the same thing at the start of the story yet become the focal point of the plot regardless, and yet fail to show any kind of character development or growth whatsoever – because of the author's bad writing.

In Cale's case, it was revealed as far from the truth as you can get. He quickly subverts those issues before they can become real concerns. Not only does he have a defined, flawed personality and showcases growth, but so do many other characters. And the writing behind Cale's character is so effective, that real people love him about as much as the fictional characters who keep him company in the story.

What does it have to do with OG Cale?

Well. Do you remember when you said, "people don't usually care about the original owner of the body the MC currently possesses, and I get why"? Let's explore that "why" for a little bit.

Where Cale could be expected to be an empty Audience Surrogate character, if TCF was poorly written that is… OG Cale could have ended up as a Blank Slate.

That is, a one-dimensional character whose only role in the story was not to be missed. Which is what happens to most "transmigration victims" in isekai. (The fact that OG Cale is the actual transmigrator in this case instead of our MC makes all of this more fascinating.) In some cases, the "original" was objectively a terrible person; be it a petty crook, or a serious villain, or someone with a rotten personality who used to abuse their privilege, letting the righteous protagonist take over and make things better for everyone. Sometimes they're completely innocent, a tragic victim who passed away prematurely, and the newcomer isn't stealing their life as much as simply slipping into a no-longer-occupied identity, while the original souls reaches a peaceful afterlife. Heck, sometimes the "original" expresses blatant consent before their passing, absolving the protagonist of all guilt regarding their transmigration.

You see, OG Cale could have easily been one of those characters. Written specifically to make create an empty spot for the MC to take over and become the starting point in their journey. And that's exactly the first impression we get! "A generic villain who gets beaten up by the protagonist". No friends, no loose ends, seemingly a worthless noble who does not contribute to society. Whose family only "puts up with him" because they're too nice to throw him out. Someone who kept such distance with everyone in his life, no one even noticed the "original" was gone.

…And yet. He is NOT a Blank Slate at all. Not in the slightest.

To quickly skip over all the reasons why OG Cale was so important to the plot: he was never a generic villain, nor an innocent, tragic victim. Instead, he is THE REASON for the plot. The how and the why of the current timeline. And he's not even dead! He is doing just fine in Kim Rok Soo's body, living a good life. Filling the empty spot left by Cale. I don't think I've seen this kind of plot twist in ANY other isekai! It's really amazing! This is exactly THE best subversion of this trope that I have ever seen. And I love it.

The third and final reason? OG Cale embodies another trope called "The Greatest Story Never Told".

Basically, the kind of life OG Cale lead when he was young – sacrificing his reputation for his step family without anyone knowing, and the deal that he made as he was at the brink of death… Those choices makes him someone who is not only a heroic figure in his own right; he's an unappreciated heroic figure. And that? That is EXTREMELY compelling to any audience.

People like heroes. People also like angst. Hero with angst has double the appeal (which is why so many broody heroes and anti-heroes exist). A heroic figure who has a tragic backstory and never gets the full credit for their sacrifice? People eat that up. I eat that up like candy myself! One of the many reasons why I enjoy time travel stories so much.

Moreover, OG Cale is in fact the only currently alive hero in TCF timeline who has never and will never get that heroic recognition – unless Cale reveals the truth to the Henituse family, which has long become extremely unlikely. Of course it makes OG Cale ripe for all sorts of fan scenarios, be it an AU where he and Cale are twins, where OG Cale goes back in time to save the world himself without Cale's transmigration, where he and Cale are the same person with combined angst… OG Cale has enough complexities to BE a protagonist in his own right. Fans recognize that, subconsciously or not. It makes him great character to write fanfics about.

I'm sure there are many more reasons why fans love to love OG Cale, naturally (his personality and his looks for example). But I think those 3 are the main ones:

Despite his shallow public persona and terrible reputation, he was built up properly as a mysterious character with great depth, and it stayed a mystery for a really long time in the story, which made the fanbase's interest in him grow exponentially.

Just like Cale, he was a clever and plot-relevant subversion of expectations, and an excellent take of what could potentially happen to the "original" that got swapped with a transmigrating protagonist.

He is a tragic heroic figure who's never got credit for his sacrifices, which makes him very compelling to explore in fanfictions.

I hope this helps! Let me hear other reasons why you guys personally love OG Cale 🙂

[thegradus2]

Yay lol

[skylerskyhigh]

Cale stares at the table with shaking eyes. His expression is one of shock and dread, with the gaze of someone whose world is tilting on its side.  "I'm sure you both understand it by now. Rok Soo’s life is tied to Cale's." The God of Life leans closer toward Cale's face. His green eyes glowed ominously as he met Cale's trembling eyes.  "So you can't die unless you want to kill your precious hyung."

[unluckycactus]

Stuff I picked on and appreciated about OgCale from his interaction in canon with KRS!Cale:

The way he immediately but indirectly claimed Cale as family.

I found it curious how he purposefully avoided possessive pronouns during most of their chat when speaking in present time, except when it was time to say goodbye. He used them when speaking in past-tense mostly.

He didn't ask 'how's my family?' but 'is the family doing well?' and later on he didn't say 'go to my mom's tomb' but 'go to mom's tomb.'

He didn't treat nor did he make Cale feel as an outsider despite being the first time they met.

He told Cale/ogKRS that he was going to save his (ogKRS) world.

Anyone who thinks ogCale is just having an easy time should probably watch the first minutes of Kaijuu no 8 to more or less dimension what kind of post-apocalyptic shit is going on there.

Not to mention, filling shoes as big as ogKRS' is not easy either. But he's doing it. He's working hard. And he will keep doing it, because he assured Cale he would save his world.

And what I like about that is that he didn't need too many words to convey: I'm gonna do my share, don't worry about that.

He wasn't weird about telling Cale about his mother's AP location

We know his mother was the most important person to him, but there was absolutely no weirdness or shadiness when giving Cale instructions to,,, y'know,, basically rob his mom's tomb

He's probably the only person thus far that actually gave Cale useful advice on how to become a slacker LOL

He was like 'there's no way you will get to slack if you don't get through Violan and Basen, bc they won't let you give up the heir position'

And I don't think anyone has been so upfront with Cale about that before. At least not during the whole Book 1.

Cos people usually sigh in exasperation or dismiss Cale's dream as nonsense, they don't even tell him why they think like that.

It was nice seeing someone giving Cale the heads up for once.

[jenjenmina]

Choose your character

Cale "I need to achieve world peace and end wars to live a peaceful and lazy slacker life" Henituse

Kim "I need to become the CEO of your company and get rid of the night shift" Rok Soo

[halloween-neko96]

You know? I have been thinking for a while now. About [The Birth Of A Hero] novel. KRS!Cale only read up to volume 5 right? But the novel itself is longer and has more volume than that. It makes me wonder. Does the novel depict the whole 20-year-long war that ends in a tragedy? Does that mean in the novel, the [Cale Henituse] who was only a minor villain in the few first volumes will come back as a relevant side character? Because [The Birth Of A Hero] was meant to be a guide for Choi Jung Soo to change things. And [Cale Henituse] is important due to his Thames bloodline and the [Anual Rings Of Life] Accient Power which is important to kill the White Star requires someone with the Thames bloodline. Does the novel later reveal all those details about [Cale Henituse]? Does the novel also reveal [Alberu Crossman]’s true nature and origin? He is, after all, an important character as he is the one gathering people in the doomed future.

It's interesting to think about what else is written in there. And let's not forget, how interesting it is if KRS!Cale has all this information from the start. How KRS!Cale would act if he had read all the volumes of [The Birth Of A Hero] before he woke up in Cale's body? Knowing that the protagonist, [Choi Han] won't be able to handle everything because the novel has shown him how it ended in a tragedy? And what he will do from the start with all this extra knowledge that he knows, about ARM and the White Star, about the original owner of his current body, [Cale Henituse]’s relevant role in the bigger scheme, about everything including the Accient Powers and Gods?

[cindythecyclops]

The idea that all OG! Cale needed was a single responsible adult whom he respected to sit him down and set him straight to prevent his self-destruction is so tragically frustratingly funny to me.

Like, it could have been Deruth, Violan or even Ron and he would have stopped.

I imagine that in a modern AU, when Cale's behavior first started, Deruth made the decision to go to therapy with his whole family to sort out their issues. Because Deruth loves his son and I do think that if therapy was a thing in Roan, then he would have definitely taken Cale.

Anyway, Therapist tells Deruth to get his shit together and sit with his son to have a heartfelt conversation because his eldest is more than the remnants of his late wife. They do that and badabing bada boom, issues are sorted and Cale isn't ruining his life and making himself miserable, and the family is close.

OG! TBOAH meet this Modern AU Henituse family and they are SHOCKED at how different the two Cales are, including Cale himself.

Then the reason is revealed and oooh boy, are there a lot of revelations.

"WAIT IT WAS ALL AN ACT?"

"All I had to do was tell him to stop????"

Funny shit.

[copseiva]

Was thinking about some scenarios without transmigration where og Cale coming back to his 18 years old teenage body. And instead of starting to run around trying to save the world or keep his trash act, he is just being tired "old man" and straight up, not giving a shit (ig for the plot he may work towards saving the world at the same time). Also questioning all his live decisions trying to understand how he end up like this

I will put some references down here

I lost the ref for 2nd one. There was the man lighting his sig by using iron

(if this post is not gonna post the way I put this again, I'm gonna lose it)

[wingedcreatorhlebushka]

I've finally finished this trend.

Yapi 🎉

[cale-thames]

There was a comment on my TCF twin fic. I immediately deleted it because it angered me. It wasn't that much of a bad comment, but it annoyed me very very much.

The commenter said something like—"I don't understand why people like to think of ogCale and Roksoo as siblings. Them being siblings don't make any sense!"

I was like— huh?

How could them being siblings don't make any sense when they are canonically siblings? Because:

1. Jour thinks of ogKRS as her son too.

2. Both ogCale and ogKRS think of Basen as their dongsuge.

3. ogCale asked our Cale, "How is the family?" He didn't ask how is my family or how is your family.

4. Most of all, if it wasn't because of that White Sh*t, they would probably born as cousins.

So please tell me, HOW DOES IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT PEOPLE SEE THEM AS SIBLINGS?! Did the commenter even finish the novel?! Why do you think there are so many twin fanfics?!

(Sorry if there are any grammar mistakes. For the past 2 weeks, I have been surviving on 3 hours of sleep and 5L of coffee. My brain isn't braining anymore.)

[blueteller]

You guys ever think about how funny it is that the whole reason why Cale did not have try at all to impersonate the original Cale, was because no one actually knew anything about him, despite the fact that everybody knew about him? On an international scale, even??

Cale: (doing an absolutely terrible job at being trash) Everybody else: That doesn't sound right, but I don't know enough about Cale Henituse to dispute it

[thegradus2]

Ough

Part 2

[skylerskyhigh]

I found a ref for the expressions and it fits the twins so well lmao

[unluckycactus]

Saving the world (one scandal at the time) - CH 7

[jenjenmina]

Has anyone ever talked about how seriously Krs/ogcale took the family motto.

"There is no reason to be recorded in history. Live for peace and happiness instead."

I'm pretty sure erasing yourself from history for everyone else's peace and happiness wasn't what Deruth would've wanted, Roksoo 😭. Did you really have to take it that literally? (yes, yes he did)