#osran fisticuffs

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Here's a thought - in Owl House AUs where Darius is replaced as Abomination Coven Head, Alador is usually named the successor.

Osran is the oldest Coven Head among the nine. If he died, I propose Odalia would be chosen as his successor.

Discuss.

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No doubt the coven heads have a difficult transition to make, going from serving the one guy in charge to all nine of them being in charge.

Yeah, between the sympathetic views of Raine, Darius, and Eberwolf contrasted with the aggressive views of Terra and Adrian, and whatever the other four have going on in their heads. It’s wild.

I pray to King’s father that we get more characterization for the head witches in the final two specials. Their individual designs are too good to waste on background characters.

If it helps, it seems every coven head has a sense of irony to them. Raine having stage fright despite being head bard, Eberwolf being a beast tamer despite basically being feral himself, and Darius hating messes when his coven is one of the messiest, and so on. Hettie, Mason, Osran, and Vitimir likely have the same thing going for them too, just have to figure out the irony between them and their covens.

Looking forward to future chapters!

Just found MoonShadow. Thanks for utilizing the head witches where canon didn't. Half of them didn't even get spotlight episodes like everyone else, and I care about them so much.

The nine of them still being in charge after Belos is gone is literally my headcanon.

Hey there! Thanks so much for writing! I hope you continue to enjoy the fic.

I definitely felt like it made sense for the Coven Heads to take on governing duties - almost by default - after the dust had settled. At least initially the citizens might well look to them for guidance.

However, even with Belos seemingly out of the picture, he left behind a ideology that’s been taught to the inhabitants of the Boiling Isles for fifty years, and that’s not going to disappear immediately. Combine that with the wildly different ethical worldviews of the Coven Heads and their inability to agree on which actions should be prioritized, and you’ve got explosive political unrest.

I doubt canon would ever have time to explore this, but the fun part of writing a longfic is that things like that can be included.

I do wonder if we’ll get any more characterization for the other Head Witches in the final two specials. I know I’ve mentioned before how any fanfic character development of The Collector at this point is essentially fanon because we have such minimal canon information to work with, but at least we have a personality and a *bit* of lore.

With many of the Coven Heads, we have next to nothing. We have a character design and that’s about it, which is a challenge to be sure when trying to determine what they are supposed to be like as characters. I’ll be utilizing them a bit more in coming chapters, but it feels a bit more like writing/creating OCs than implementing existing characters.

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For Vitimir, I was thinking something like Vitimir Downpour. Because members of the Potions coven pour ingredients into their cauldrons and pour the potions into vials when they're done.

For Osran, the closest idea I've had so far is Osran Fisticuffs. As a reference to him and Kikimora being some kind of demon species with claw hands for hair.

I'll add 'em to the list of potential names but I probably won't be able to settle on anything until I've gotten a chance to actually know the characters a bit.

One of my favorite things down the road is the idea of getting to explore personalities of these characters that got next to no screen time. Which I suppose I'm familiar with. The Dual Trackers were definitely starved for screen time as of the vast majority of Outsiders' run

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Probably a super unpopular opinion, but I would keep the nine Coven Heads in charge after Belos is defeated. I love them and their chaotic work relationships too much.

My headcanon is that since Belos blindsided everyone, the other six Coven Heads get enough leniency to keep their positions.

Raine is the leader of the council, as assumed by their appearance in the epilogue, and has the final ruling on laws and stuff the others try to bring up.

I've been a Coven Head fan since their debut in the opening of Hunting Palismen, and I want to keep them around. I even have last names for the ones that didn't get them.

Mason Tholomule - a popular headcanon is he's Steve and Matt's dad.

Vitimir Downpour - reference to pouring ingredients into potions.

Osran Fisticuffs - appears to be a hand hair demon like Kikimora.

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Thinking about the four head witches we never got an episode for.

Thinking about how Hettie was going to be a creepy doctor with an interest in bloodwork, and she was the head of the Healing Coven.

Thinking about how Vitimir was going to be ignorant of lab safety, and he was the head of the Potions Coven.

Thinking about how Osran was going to be senile, and he was the head of the Oracle Coven.

Thinking about how Mason was going to be a solo worker, and he was the head of the Construction Coven.

Dang it, we deserved their spotlight episodes! They’re the only other characters in the show that have important roles, and we never got to see them play their part!

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I always thought Vitimir’s irony would be his zero regard for lab safety despite working with potions.

Could explain his toxic breath.

(also go to bed if you need to)

I suppose the one thing I really wanted that we never got was an episode for Mason, Hettie, Osran, and Vitimir to properly explore their personalities and how they might clash with their covens.

I wanted to see if Mason was confirmed as Matt and Steve's dad. I wanted to see Hettie be the creepy doctor the crew mentioned in the post hoots. I wanted to see what Vitimir had in that giant backpack box (prob a portable lab and ingredients). I wanted to know if Osran was either perceptive from always knowing the future or confused bc he was always looking into the future and never living in the present.

Out of all the missed plot points so far, this is what I wanted most because all the other characters have been explored at least once but these guys haven't and since they're head witches, they should have gotten time to shine.

Sorry I'll stop rambling about what could have been now.

So true especially since the coven heads we've seen all have some form of irony regarding their chosen field (ex. Raine having stage fright and Darius hating mess) and I would have loved to see the same concept applied to the other coven heads. Some are easy to imagine like Hettie being cruel but Vitmir? I have no idea what ironic thing about potions he could embody and I really wish we could have found out.

No need to apologize, I like rambles 😄

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Recreating the Lost Episodes: A Guide

Season 2

As we learned about S2’s production over the past year or so, the mouse’s decision to shorten The Owl House’s third season came around the time “Agony of a Witch” aired. This was around the time the crew had finished writing the first half of S2. They were given a choice, move forward with their intended original plans for the second half or rewrite the second half to accelerate the plot enough that they could wrap up the story with the little time they had left in their generously called “Season 3”.

They chose to accelerate the plot. This is extremely noticeable due to the suddenly announced deadline of the Day of Unity being a month away in “Follies at the Coven Day Parade”. If it weren’t for the cut, would the DOU have been instead announced for anywhere from three to six or nine months away and covered in S3, giving the story enough breathing room to explore character and relationship development we didn’t get?

So, a lot of amazing ideas had to be left as abandoned puzzle pieces, and us fans are left to figure out how they were supposed to fit together for ourselves. For all the fanfic writers who plan to recreate what we lost, this is for you. If I wasn’t already working on long term projects, I would try this myself too.

I have no doubt that the episodes we did get for Season 2B would have still been in the show’s lineup, but likely further down than they ended up being for most of them. Because of the anniversary for Manny’s death being a specific date, I imagine that would have stayed in the same slot for example.

Let’s start with the Bat Queen since that’s the earliest dropped plot thread I can identify. At the end of “Escape of the Palisman”, Luz promised to help the Bat Queen find out her past since she no longer remembered her original owner. As we saw in S2, she never followed up on this. As confirmed at the Gallery Nucleus panel, Bat Queen is not the palisman of the Titan, but rather a giant. So we might have gotten lore on giants in the demon realm, specifically Bat Queen’s owner and how she became who she is now.

Another dangling thread is Jean-Luc, King’s babysitter from his nest. We never see King and the gang try to reactivate him outside of the nest; he just sits in the corner of Luz’s room as a decoration for the rest of the season.

Then there’s the four head witches that didn’t get proper debuts – Hettie Cutburn, Mason, Osran, and Vitimir. We can assign at least two episodes and four at most to fleshing them out, two being if they teamed up the way Darius and Eberwolf did or four if they debut individually like Terra and Adrian.

As far as I can guess, Mason was intended to be involved in a scrapped plot line of returning to the Looking Glass Ruins along with Adrian Graye, as a mirror match to Gus and Mattholomule since they match coven tracks. With old storyboards starting the rumor Mason was Matt and Steve’s father (albeit with the name Ulrich), this could have really boosted Matt’s development of wanting power changing to multi-tracking, sticking with the theme of finding your own way instead of following in your parents’ footsteps.

Another team-up I can see is Hettie and Vitimir since their covens likely work closely in making cures and general healthcare. Hettie was said by Dana to be interesting to the crew, hinted at being creepy and having an interest in bloodwork. So perhaps the pair of them would be assigned to the Titan’s Blood case and eventually woven into King’s plot? Or the two would be split up, with Hettie being involved in King’s Titan plot and Vitimir being involved in Hunter’s grimwalker plot?

I suggested Vitimir being involved in Hunter’s grimwalker plot because the list of stuff needed to construct a grimwalker sounds like a potion ingredient list, and Vitimir is the head witch of the Potions Coven. Belos might have tasked him with gathering the necessary ingredients for a new grimwalker, suspecting Hunter is beginning to betray him like all the others as he grows independent through Darius’ influence and his adventures with the Hexsquad. Since Hunter is such a crucial piece in Belos’ plans, who better to task with the important and rare ingredients of a grimwalker than the head witch of the Potions Coven himself?

Osran is probably the biggest mystery player in how he would get involved. Since the Oracle Coven is all about foresight and contacting spirits, perhaps there’s something to be said about how nobody saw the Day of Unity’s true purpose coming. The Collector using his power to keep oracles from seeing the truth? Belos forbidding any scrying about the DOU? There’s a theory out there that he might have been intended to join the rebellion based on the burned tapestry in “Eda’s Requiem” the BATTs pass after their first raid. Maybe not being able to see the outcome of the Day of Unity gave Osran reason to change sides.

When writing the head witches, it’s best to remember each one has a sense of irony regarding the coven they are the bosses of. Raine is the head witch of the Bard Coven despite having stage fright, Darius is the head witch of the Abominations Coven but hates messes, Eberwolf is a beast tamer despite basically being feral himself, Terra is the head witch of the Plants Coven but has a toxic personality, and Adrian Graye prefers to direct others putting on illusions rather than perform himself. In that vein, Hettie is likely that creepy doctor that enjoys the pain of patients, Vitimir likely neglects lab safety despite working with potions if his toxic breath is a clue, Mason probably prefers to work solo rather than in a team like construction jobs usually require or relies on the power glyphs instead of his strength like normal coven members, and Osran likely is senile and forgetful about the present from constantly looking into the future.

There’s also the matter of Amity still having the portal key in storyboards for Clouds on the Horizon. The Roundtable covered this in their video about season 2, how Amity and Hunter’s duel was likely supposed to end differently but the accelerated plot necessitated a change at the last minute since it was part of 2A. Amity and Hunter probably came to a draw, neither having the information to leverage. This would explain why Amity isn’t upset with Hunter the next time they meet in “Labyrinth Runners”.

The thing with Raine also confuses me. At the end of “Eda’s Requiem”, we see them being restricted by their sigil then seems fine in “Follies at the Coven Day Parade” pretending to be brainwashed. I think them being captured was supposed to be a bigger part of the plot, but again the plot acceleration necessitated a change of what happened to them and the crew couldn’t change it the same way the duel at Eclipse Lake might have gotten. This by extension would have given the BATTs a bigger role too.

Development for the Blight family was also a big thing in Season 2. We properly met Odalia and Alador, Alador got a redemption arc while Odalia got worse, the origin of Amity’s family nickname was revealed, and the twins showed interest in multiple tracks. The one person in the family that really got the shaft was Emira because she didn’t have a B-plot expanding her interests like how Edric got to show his interest in beast-keeping and potions in “Reaching Out”. I have a feeling if it weren’t for the plot acceleration, we would have seen them more. Perhaps Odalia was intended to be the season’s major antagonist similar to how Lilith was in Season 1, appearing to cause conflict in more episodes than just two.

The Collector also wasn’t intended to be part of S2 according to one of the crew’s Post Hoots. Once they learned of the cut, they decided to throw him into the mix early. He’s woven so intricately into the plot now, it’s hard to imagine what the story would be like if he was delayed until later or didn’t show up at all.

That’s all I have for Season 2. I’ll talk about Season 3 in the next part, but that will have to wait until we see how the other two specials play out to see what else was either dropped or squeezed into a montage.

In the meantime, try recreating episodes from what I’ve pieced together so far. Best of luck to all and may the Titan look down on you favorably.

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A fic featuring the Coven Heads!

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Of the nine head witches, it seems we have only two that haven’t been given last names. So, I came up with some.

Presenting...

Osran Fisticuffs

Vitimir Downpour

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@lazlolullaby oh yeah, I forgot he was an Oracle too. Thanks for reminding me!

So yeah, Odalia and Perry would both be candidates for succeeding Osran.

Here's a thought - in Owl House AUs where Darius is replaced as Abomination Coven Head, Alador is usually named the successor.

Osran is the oldest Coven Head among the nine. If he died, I propose Odalia would be chosen as his successor.

Discuss.