Once again I'm here because I'm angry.
There's been a lot of talk about Boston and what Jojo wanted or not to say about sluts and whatever.
I, and other people I think, were struggling with the idea that Jojo would actually want that message out. So I went to see some interviews. And got kinda shocked about one thing that he said.
(btw this is an actual quote.)
He was talking about Boston reasons for his behaviour
Jojo: Bad people don't need to have a backstory. They are just born sluts. A bad character doesn't need... (and then the interviewer says - he doesn't need tragedy to be bad) Exactly.
And then he gets asked if he thinks Boston needs redemption and he emphatically says NO.
And then talking about how much fun is writing the character he says this:
Boston is such a fun character to write. yeah unpredictable he's like, he doesn't care. he doesn't have morals so we just like goes with the flow.
bad people? no morals? humm... i don't know...
So yeah, now I don't really know what to think about it. I was wondering what are your thoughts about this. I'm still gonna watch some more of this, because I'm a masochist that needs all the information, but yeah, I thought I would share.
Thanks for the space
Yiiiiiikes. Okay, first let me preface this by saying that whenever I am reading/watching something that was either translated to English or spoken in English by a person with a different first language, I try not to get too hung up on specific word choice. By necessity we tend to go for the simplest possible words to convey meaning in those situations, and thus a lot of nuance gets stripped out.
That said, the sentiment is clear: Jojo saw Boston as a villain character without a moral code that he could deploy to cause chaos wherever he liked in the story. And he is definitely conflating his villainy with sexual promiscuity, which is the worst part of this quote and unfortunately aligns with the way that finale, and ultimately the themes of the show, were written. It definitely makes me side eye Jojo and as I’ve already said, I won’t be so inclined to trust him nearly as much next time.
Only Friends, however, has more than one writer, and I don’t think they all see it this way. If you think Boston is purely an irredeemable slut, you don’t write his breakup and reunion with Nick in the way that this show did. You don’t give depth to his situation with Atom. You don’t show his sincere emotion, his hurt, and his earnest desire to be with Nick while he can. With all the info we have now and in retrospect, it kind of feels like there was a bit of a tug-o-war going on with Boston’s story.
My understanding is that Den Panuwat, one of three writers on the show, is the one who adapted the novel version of the story, and there he changed Boston’s final arc significantly. Rather than Boston fucking Atom, he made his final conflict about his dad’s political career with Boston’s sexuality being used as a weapon against him. He wrote Boston and Nick ending on good terms. And he wrote a final chapter for Boston where he arrives in New York, finds a more accepting society and queer community who accept and understand him, and thrives.
I’m sure there were some non-artistic reasons why we couldn’t get this version of the story in the show (the politics story was likely vetoed for censorship reasons and they probably couldn’t afford to show us Boston in NY, for example), but the fact that Den wrote it signals that his perspective on Boston is not fully aligned with what Jojo said in that quote above. Perhaps we have him to thank for the empathetic portrayal and humanity we did see in Boston despite Jojo’s perspective on him. And Den has another show coming soon, so maybe we’ll see a clearer read of his own perspective on queer sexual politics without the GMMTV restrictions when we watch Playboyy.
Okay, I know, we're all absolutely ready, have our clipboards with notes and the blackboard with pictures, threads and theories that make Kim Theerapanyakun's look like a damn kids' game board to go completely all in with the analysis again.
But here I ask for a brief pause to honor what a fiercely good job the actors have done for this series.
Seriously, my examples of this are endless. Of course, probably the most obvious, the many smut-scenes. It takes a lot to allow that level of trust and professionalism to become so intimate with not just one but multiple acting partners.
What I particularly love is that so far none of the sex scenes or general hot scenes have been "just sex". In each one you could see what was going on inside the characters.
You could see Soong's hesitation, the moment when he ignored his own preferences in order to please others and the emotions that built up bit by bit, First's joyful anticipation of finally being able to live out his fantasies and his urge to go further.
Zouey's hesitation, alternating with moments in which he tries to rise above himself, Teena's way in which he first tries to put on a show, only to fall for Zouey after all.
Nont's microexpressions, every time he's near Prom, the fear, the determination, at the same time the lust and tension.
Jump almost willingly throwing himself into Porsche's clutches, kneeling and showing himself submissive, but just waiting to be more deeply involved with Porsche...
The individual examples are endless, and truly insane.
Secondly, the intensity with which the actors prepared for the roles. At this point, I'd like to mention the Playboy actors in particular.
The actor from Teena said in an interview that the weight loss and training had presented him with enormous challenges. There were days when he didn't have enough energy to go to the gym or even lift a weight because of his diet.
Again, guys, the bodies we see don't come naturally. To be able to see a six-pack, the water balance in the body has to be extremely low. And the total body fat percentage must be between 13 and 6%. I'll leave the math to you, but as a spoiler, that's pretty damn low.
Third, the acting in general, not just in the nc scenes.
For example, the friendship between Captain, Zouey, First and Porsche, our pampered gang of the privileged.
I love their scenes together, not because I think their friendship is flawless and great, but because it feels real to me. I like seeing how they interact and how their actions and consequences affect each other.
There are many roles in Playboyy and yet none of them feel like a repetition of another already existing role. The characters are different, different written and different brought to life by the actors.
Every character has their own depth, their own characteristics, goals, motivations, abysses and things they are prepared to sacrifice.
Anyway, these people put a hell of a lot of work into this series and with every new episode I'm left speechless as to how the hell they managed to pull off scenes like this in front of a team of I don't know how many people.
Okay, I can't go on for very long here and I invite everyone to do so. There's so much hate for so many shows and things right now, so let's enjoy some stuff that's just really awesome:)
This one from my work playlist (it's a remix of the "The Lost Boys" soundtrack)
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Favorite color?
It kind of changes every couple of years. Right now I like green a lot 💚
Currently watching?
A lot 😅
BLs:
Ossan's Love Returns
Playboyy
War of Y
Pit Babe
Cooking Crush
Sahara sensei to Toki-kun
Sukiyanen Kedo Do Yaro ka
And I'm also (re)watching some older series (mostly while I work, perks of working in my home office ^^):
The X-Files (season 1)
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (season 1)
Star Trek Voyager (season 6)
Star Trek Deep Space Nine (season 3)
Last movie?
I mostly watch series, but I actually managed to watch two movies last weekend!: The Favorite (18th century lesbians anyone?) & Ratatouille (the best tiny cook!)
Sweet/Spicy/Savory?
YES Idk I like all the flavors XD The only thing I can't eat is sour stuff, because I'll get an upset stomach :(
Relationship status?
Single pringle~
Current obsessions?
Playboyy the series 😌
Last thing you googled?
Hmm, I think the last thing I looked up was info about the 6th Oktober 1976 massacre of students at Thammasat University to get more background information while I was watching Shadow the Series. Pretty gruesome stuff... Especially the fact that none of the perpetrators were ever held accountable. It seems the official government stance is that it was just an unfortunate event and everyone should forget about it. But when you watch interviews with people who survived, it's obvious there is still a lot of trauma going on.
Selfie or another pic you took?
Let me share a cool pic from my parent's garden. What you can see here is not a hummingbird, but a huge chunky moth! They're called Taubenschwänzchen or hummingbird hawk-moths and they're about 4-5cm big :3 It's a pretty rare find up in the northern parts of Europe, because they usually prefer a warmer climate.
Last Song I listened to: Cleopatra by the Lumineers
Currently Watching: I'm about 2/3 of the way through the Spirealm (which is fuckin' great) and casually keeping up with Wandee Goodday and My Stand-In.
Sweet/Savoury/Spicy?: Savory and it's not even close.
Relationship Status: I have been married for 10 going on 11 years
Current Obsession: Playboyy specifically and BL more generally, a bunch of different danmei, and a resurgence of the eternal and undying Interview with the Vampire feelings.
I have no idea who has and hasn't done this, so let's say @chaos0pikachu, @kinnbig, @kennyomegasweave, and whoever else wants to.
Oh yeah Suchwita is great and the reason that Suga started it is super sweet. The reason he gave was that he knew the members would be coming out with solo albums and he wanted to create a show that they could promote their solo albums on. His interview with two of the TXT members was hilarious because one of them got drunk and he was adorable while he basically gushed over his fans and Suga. I would definitely recommend Suchwita and you should look up Youngji on YouTube. She does more silly drunk kpop interviews but I'm not sure if any Shinee members were on. I've only watched the Jin interview but it was hilarious. Also any thoughts on the new Thai Bl Playboy? Apparently the teaser was criticized for it's sexual content and the writer(?) defended himself and did it so well.
Oh I'm def keeping an eye on Suchwita in the future to see who pops up!
As for Playboyy, I got the same vibe as I did for Only Friends: it'll probably be horribly written (and therefore disappointingly performed) but we might get a couple good sex scenes from it and the gays deserve their hypersexualized content too so god bless. After I was right about Only Friends (although after skimming most of the series there wasn't even particularly good sex) and I found out that the same writer did Playboyy I decided to not even bother. I remember reading a couple quotes from the writer about his intentions with Only Friends and Playboyy and it seems like a case of a writer with meaningful ideas who doesn't yet know how to accomplish them.....which really worries me because he apparently wrote Man Suang, too.
That being said, he absolutely should have defended himself from criticism over the presence of sexual content and I'm glad he did.
- ok the opening headlines are about sex with strangers, gay dating app, cop stealing from people... keeping this in mind for next time
- i love proms customer service smile shbshsdhd
- ok so as of a month before the show soong jump and teena still worked at playboyy…. also puen is already on the register i thought he joined after joining the team….
- them walking out is is still THE moment for them like the strut was everything
- ok teena says “but the boss has gone too far” then “i think this job isn’t horrible if we had signed up for it”...
- aob's “the boss never forces anyone to work here” and jump hitting him with “you’d know about that wouldn’t you”…..
- oh hold on voice over soong says “i choose this job because i like sex” jump says “but they wouldn’t pay you enough” and teena “the custumer gets to choose you. never you” ok so it seems like they chose to leave because of specific working conditions not an event like i thought
- porsche said he was close to nant in their first year, interesting
- i wonder if this house keeper they keep referencing is the one we see later in the series
- ok zouey saying he doesn’t know when nant goes missing and he doesn’t know why he needs money…. not saying he should out himself to the cops but also this scene feals less like the literal interview and more like a surrealist moment where they are talking to us….
- obsessed with them contacting nants dad to see if he was there and nonts excuse was “i was with my dad” this boy....
- zouey seems desperate for them to find nant, i wonder if he truly hopes they get him from jason
- nont blowing his cover because he wants the baddies to like him so much he makes them breakfast 😕 also why doesn’t he know nant can’t cook
- puen in camo with dog tags, this can’t be a coincidence i feel....
- ok now that “nant” is back porsche rejoins the group in the framing again…. inch resting
- not porsche “why would they want you” ksksjdkeje awww and first sticking up for captian
- ok do yall think porsche knows teena and soong, if he was able to pull up the playboyy page to hire jump….
- first jumping at zouey while porsche and captain dramatically looking between them… ok….
- i’m kinda obsessed with first telling zouey to stop acting like his dad only to cut to a scene where he’s role playing the same career as his father....
- the way soong looks at first during the med play scene…. yeah
- once again shout out to this show for showing lube on screen when there’s anal penetration like as much as i go on about playboyy surrealism it’s also so real at points
- when first is offering himself or something to soong he switches into english…. i should pay more attention to this this time around. like maybe that’s the language that’s specific to conversations only about their relationship….
- nonts “when i hid your things when we were younger”.... idk the reminders they were brothers hit diff on rewatch
- ok so nants background was him and nont... im not having feelings about this
- this is when nont finds that nant gets a bunch of transfers from prom who has the same last name as porsche ok
- i’m kinda obsess with proms facebook pfp being his playboyy portrait
- where are zoueys glasses this is still a mystery to me why he sometimes just doesn’t have them
- the perfume product placement is still so funny
- zouey getting used to teena touching him is something that can be so personal actually
- AHH THE LIKE A VIRGIN HAD ME SCREAMING AGAIN
- “i want to make you want me don’t you think that would be interesting” teenaaaa
- ok so prom is at the car place and tells porsche “you can’t make me work here” porsche says “nant is back hand in your resignation. why are you smiling don’t meet up with him or were all screwed” does prom know nant is at playboyy and therefore happy to get to try his hand at nont…. why is porsche convinced prom is in trouble rn. oh cause of jason finding out ok
- is prom supposed to be a lot older than porsche or is this just a trick of the casting
- obsessed with nont looking up playboyy and getting playboy club in ny that’s such a fun detail
- hold why is nont at the car place???
- porschejump english moment??? i don’t remember this i wonder what it means in the long run
- porsche demanding to be called the boss hits so different now….
- zoueyteena feel like there living in an alternate universe to the show… zouey unreliable narrator going strong!! i mean this as in it feels like maybe even both of them rewriting reality and escaping to a more controllable place. both of them were/are art students so it looks very calming and beautiful and it’s only them in these very representative environments, idk just something im noticing
- zoueyteena and touch im going to eat my laptop ahhhhh
- zoueyteena fingerpaint scene still one of my favorites. forever obsessed by "do you want to try something that isn’t sex" and the thing in question is laying prone on your bf and grinding while you make out. zouey is so fascinating. also i don’t think the paint splatter was for nothing WAIT I JUST REALIZED ZOUEY SAID EARLIER HE NEEDED TO DO AN ABSTRACT PIECE OH OK
- throwback to this kitchen lol they have a diff house the rest of the series
- jump’s “jerking off is more fun than sex” lives rent free in my mind now btw. like good for him straight jorkin it at work
- prom doesn’t look surprised to see nant cause he’s trying to hide how excited he is to fuck his twin
- “he looks poor” ok nont hrjrjsdhf
- “i remember everything about you prom” nont stop setting yourself up like ???
- prom is definitely fucking with nont. he’s like a cat toying with its dying prey. i love my calculating little man
- proms “oh god it’s really happening” little smile he’s so adorable
- why was nant the actor like aside from the fact he’s not great at verbal lying nont loves keeping up a ruse
- nont talking to the nant in his reflection pt 1 observation: he doesn’t talk out loud to nant this time just in his head
- whoever posted the “it’s called aftercare sweaty look it up, um let’s not pretend we’re king dick if bdsm mountain” deserves a pulitzer prize btw cause it lives in my head rent free
- why did prom refuse to tell nont what the relationship status was?
- HOLD ON ok we see nont posed in front of a blanking old tv while he is restoring nants chat history which i assume is the clips he sent captain…
- AH PROMNANT did prom know nant sold the clip off do we think prom knew oh actually all of these are just promnont scenes i dont think this means anything actually lol
- not zouey being anti “master” first lol
- the wash your sex reveal moment was everything. nonts little moment of “i need to check this out” then him watching porsche have a reaction like ooo the layers this time around
- oh porsche was excited to use this against jump ok
- first starts talking to his dad in english about condoms. noted. hold are those lil bite marks on first…. anyway i’m adding this to my “first slips into english when it’s about his relationship with soong” evidence list
- “even mom escaped you by dying” is like the strongest ray comparison. like eps 1 and 2 firstsoong and sandray are like siblings but after this they became distant cousins
- zoueyteena are so funny for this like the clip on bow tie is giving me at piano recitals when i was little. also fancy food and good wine glasses. also teena licking that oyster like it’s popcorn…. ZOUEYTEENA MAKE ME WANT TO EAT MY LAPTOP PART 2838488384 i love them
- it’s zoueys dream to have an exhibition…. trying my hardest not to tie this into jason trying my hardest not to tie this into jason trying my-
- “he makes me feel like a want sex. i don’t just want sex. i want to be his bf” coming from teena…. ahhh hold on teena falls for zouey and then we get a shot framing his T necklace
- nont already concerned for first…. he really just wants friends guys
Thai Playboy models Natty Patcharatorn and Noinong Amint Pongrutniton devastated to find their sexy pics are being used on PORN DVD covers
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