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"Also people who demand you reblog it, like “YOU HAVE TIME TO REBLOG THIS” or “I’m blocking anyone who can’t reblog this” I hate guilt tripping"

^ THIS. ^ It's called reblog bait and it's gross and must be stopped.

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9256:

You know what's even more annoying is how those people forget queues exist. One time I liked a bunch of posts on someone's blog and queued them, and they were online as I was doing this, and messaged me telling me if I'm "just going to spam like, then fuck off". I had maybe twenty posts queued and I had painstakingly spread all of them out in my queue so I didn't inundate people with the same fandom.

I deleted all the queued posts, told the person how many posts I had originally queued but now won't be queuing, and blocked them. I like to think it smartened them up, but I don't suspect these types learn that fast.

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BIG AGREE!!!

The number of times I've been going through stories on Instagram only to be hit with Share if your account is a safe place for LGBT+/POC/disabled/whatever people. I can see who skips! or Share this if you care about [insert issue here]! I can see who skips and I'll block!

Like bro...I'm not going to flood my story with this shit because you've decided to try and guilt trip me into it by trying to make me feel bad.

I've even seen one that said If you're not spreading awareness of what's happening in Bangladesh, you can't see yourself as human!

Like wow. How supportive of you! You preach on your account about how you should always be careful about mental health but then you pull this shit that can make people panic.

If you don't post about xyz, it means you support it!

No. No, it doesn't. It means my already shitty mental health will plumet if I'm forced to constantly think about this. Me skipping your picture of a fucking CORPSE doesn't mean I support genocide, it means I don't want to share someone's fucking dead body with the excuse of "I'm just trying to spread awareness!!!! You're a racist bigot for calling me out!"

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So much this. I recently went around looking for artists because I wanted a bunch of commissions for my favorite slash ship, and I had about $2k to spend. (I know, but it's a long story, please don't ask.) I must have seen about 15 different artists within a week who had stuff like "will not do: proships" (that is not what proship means, love), or "illegal ships" (as in, illegal in-universe or illegal to draw?), and on top of that, stuff like "proshit dni" and "fuck off if you think fiction doesn't equal reality". My search for artists went from being a nice and exciting experience, to me wanting to pull my hair out at how stupid many artists on here can be. Some of them even drew LOTS of the ship I wanted them to draw, and I would've happily thrown hundreds at them for multiple pieces of art, but their blog made me run the other direction.

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About "create what you want to see". It's always free game to shit on aspec wanting to be included in fandom isn't it? "Let people have fun" maybe everyone should have fun. Maybe it's ok to want more fanworks you'd like instead of being told that you should do it yourself especially if you don't have the skills for it.

This is amazing how you guys can't think for a second that there's people different than you with different idea and that they have the right to feel saddened to feel excluded.

Oh sorry. It make you think about fandom beside shipping right?

I'm assuming this is in response to the discussion around Fandom Problem #9008.

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Problem 8654

this is the result of people taking the "lgbt+ and queer people should be accepted" movement to its extreme, now we're accepted but instead of stopping there we now have to vilify and shit on anyone else who isn't queer or lgbt+ because they're, according to some queer and lgbt+ people who need to touch grass, "boring", "bad", or "sad and depressing, oughhh who'd wanna live like that ;o;". this is also why i can't stand even flippant cis het etc jokes because it just adds to this and a lot of impressionable kids take them seriously, or even if they don't at first, they keep regurgitating the jokes until they believe them. :/

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Fandom Problem #8697

Sorry but unless someone is making media directly aimed at children (like Bluey, MLP, Steven Universe, etc.), it is NOT their responsibility to teach your children that rape/incest/abuse/whatever is bad.

When I was a kid I read all sorts of crazy Hetalia doujinshi's with all kinds of romanticized, toxic shit and underage/bestiality/incest/etc. and not once did I ever think "Wow, I saw it in a comic so it must be okay! I should do this in real life!" because even at 10 years old, I was smart enough to know better.

After Game of Thrones released, was there an increase in cases of people marrying their sisters?

After Hannibal released, was there an increase in murder and cannibalism?

After GTA released, was there an increase in people stealing cars and then mowing down pedestrians?

No? Hm, why could that be, I wonder?

And before anyone comes in with the "Buh-buh-buh wuh about 50 Shades of Gray!" The problem with 50 Shades of Gray was that the average person is not properly educated about BDSM and how it's practiced. Most people recieve absolutely abysmal sex ed and don't even know where the clitoris is, let alone how to tie someone up safely.

Whereas most people DO recieve education like, "Incest is wrong and nasty" and "Do not eat other human beings" and "It's not nice to steal from other people".

If you hear stories of kids getting groomed or hurt because they read something they shouldn't have and thought it was okay, your reaction should not be, "We need to ban all of the Bad Evil Media to protect the children!"

Your reaction should be, "Where the fuck are their parents? Why are we not giving children comprehensive sexual education in school and teaching them to recognize signs of abusive relationships and grooming? Why are children not being taught basic media literacy skills? Why are there children and teenagers that cannot differentiate between a fictional story and real life?"

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I’ve tried to stay quiet about it but 5414 confirmed that it’s becoming too big of an issue: can we just get Xtians out of fandom please lmao

Fandom is supposed to be anti-bigotry and that won’t happen with Xtians and frankly any religious freaks being allowed. It’s probably the one fandom issue where I support gatekeeping; when it protects the common good of fandom. Call me an anti all you want but the religious have no place in fandom whatsoever. People come to this blog and complain and whine about purity culture and bigotry ruining fandoms, well guess what? The Xtian vermin you let sneak into your precious fandoms are the cause of every “fandom problem” listed on this blog. Literally 99% of these issues would be gone if people stood up and drove religion-crazed delusional lunatics out of their fandoms.

And don’t pretend religious people who don’t support bigotry exist. All. Religion. Is. Inherently. Bigoted.

No one wants you or your delusion in their fandoms. You contribute nothing. Do everyone a favor and fuck right out of your fandoms, please!

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And when f/f shippers think they're SOOOOOOOOO superior over people who ship m/f or m/m because "uwu women make everything better and we don't ship the yucky straights or the gays". Just because a ship is f/f doesn't make it automatically better than other kinds of ships. Back up a bit. Put that attitude back where it came from

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We received a lot of replies to Fandom Problem # 9073 in rapid succession so I'm going to try to gather them all in one spot here.

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Anon:

To be honest, f/f and female characters fans are quickly becoming the most insufferable type of fans. They believe that f/f is superior and pure because neither woman has been tainted by disgusting, dirty men. But if you write them as anything more intimidate that kisses and braiding each other's hair, you're obvious a disgusting man who just wants to fap to women. Same with female characters in general. If a man likes her, he's objectifying her. If you write her as anything but the perfect Main Character who hates men, you obviously don't know a thing about women or just hate them. They state that writing women is so easy but in the next breath create a 100 point checklist on how to write said female character correctly. They also complain about the lack of f/f but the majority of them refuse to make any content themselves. They just want to control what others write or have them stop writing the stuff they don't like.

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Anon:

" You don’t need someone to hold your hand and tell you it’s okay to be straight " Did this person just assume op was straight, merely because they had m/f ships and didn't want to see them bashed on the basis of them being m/f? Ohhh boy, is that ever depressing. I'm ace. I'm agender. I'm in a wlw relationship. I have tons of m/f ships. Tell me you have a ton of internalized bigotry to unpack without telling me. They also kinda just, well, missed the point of the OOP if you ask me, but yeah.

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Anon (replying to this ask):

You're obviously a troll, but in all honesty, you're probably one of those f/f fans the OOP was talking about. No one said anything about gay people in real life, dumbass. F/F fans are not all lesbians. Look at M/M shippers; they're mostly straight women.

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Anon (replying to this ask):

This is such a "hit dog hollering" reaction that severely underestimates how gross people can get about het and m/f ships. It's not just "I think this ship which happens to be het is boring". It's "this ship is boring BECAUSE it's het or m/f. No other reason." It's "ew how could someone like a het or m/f ship." It's "only straight people would ship this trash lol." I shouldn't need to go on. I know multiple people who have been "accused" (because too many damn people on this hell site think being het is a sin, whoops) of being het just because they like a m/f ship, and I've witnessed multiple m/f ships of mine being shit on strictly on the basis of them being m/f, even though the characters and dynamic is incredibly, obviously rich and people like the same exact dynamics in gsy ships. It's a fucked-up kind of "too far in the other direction" social justice wank.

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Anon (replying to this ask):

There are so many posts floating around where people who are heavily, heavily invested in f/f ships outright accuse everyone who doesn't have an f/f ship (even if they've simply... just... never seen media with female characters they could ship) as lesbophobes. And they'll say they should die, wish death on them, and so on. As someone whose fav media is heavily, stupidly male-centric, where the few female characters don't have much opportunity to bounce off each other and accrue little "ship bunny" ideas in the first place, it's just so fucking stupid to me. But it happens so often.

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Anon:

That "its giving homophobia" ask is so wildly off base, I just can't, lol. So many assumptions. No one said anything about ships just being called "boring". Op said "bashed". And there are myriad incidents where people will, in fact, hate on and bash ships, and people who ship them, just because the ships are m/f! Fandom is about celebrating creativity and sharing our passion, for ships among other things, and who the hell cares if a ship, oh noesies, isn't m/m or f/f?! And you don't need to have the same orientation or identity as the ships you ship, that's just a truly sad way to look at things and assume in other people. So many straight women love gay and lesbian porn, and so many ace people love the kinkiest kind of allo shit imaginable, among so many other examples.

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Anon (replying to this ask):

This is why a lot of f/f shippers with that kind of mentality scare me. It smells like radfemmy "gender essentialism" rhetoric. I usually block them, because the vibes just aren't good. If you actually look at some posts where the mentality you describe is on display, a lot of the reblogs are people with "radfem" or "radfem learning" and other stuff in their descriptions.

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When I watched shows with my Mom growing up, she would take the time to point out if a relationship or portrayal was unhealthy. She would take the time to explain that magic and stuff wasn't real. And my Dad MADE SURE I understood that, no, I wouldn't survive an anvil landing on me like in Looney Tunes (not that that was really a problem I'd encounter.)

If my parents saw me emulating something negative I saw on TV, they would say, "You can't watch that, anymore" until I was older (Especially after toddler me tried to sword fight my Mom using a butter knife, courtesy of Xena Warrior Princess.) Same goes for if they knew the show had content in appropriate for my age group (they understand not all cartoons are for kids).

It's the PARENTS job to decide what is suitable for their kids, (which varies from kid to kid) and make sure they understand how to separate fantasy from reality.

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I often see people with DNIs insist they're effective and work, because their interactions go down. But they always fail to recognize the simple fact that the DNIs aren't usually working because people who are on the DNI choose to follow it, and that's where the reduction in interactions comes from. No, that reduction is largely people who aren't on the DNI at all, but just don't want to deal with someone who doesn't know the first two shits about how internet space curation works, and who thinks virtue signalling all over is healthy. It screams melodramatic, high-strung, and overly controlling.

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People have this weird idea that not wanting kids is feminist while wanting kids is "supporting the patriarchy", when in reality the feminist stance is "women should be allowed to choose what they want"

Funny how people claiming to support women only support them if they shun anything associated with femininity at all.

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I’ve seen multiple kids put their full government name, age, and hometown in their profiles before. It’s absolutely astounding. I’m in my 20s and when I was in elementary and middle school they taught us all about internet safety and the importance of not sharing personal information. I legitimately thought until I was 15 or 16 that sharing any amount of personal information was basically asking to get kidnapped. Do they just not teach kids internet safety anymore?

I am generally an optimist and like to see the best in people. But there’s a difference between optimism and stupidity. These kids need to learn that while most people are good, there’s plenty of people who aren’t, and they need to be cautious and keep themselves safe from people who would do them harm. Even though there’s a lot of good, the internet is not a safe place and it’s foolish to assume that it is. Even just saying that they’re a minor feels dangerous to me. It seems like it’s broadcasting that they are very likely naive and vulnerable to someone with bad intentions.

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#6552:

What I find such a weird change these days is that when I was a minor, it was a universal understanding that fandom in general was not for minors regardless of the franchise it was build on. It always was an adult space, as adults were and still are after all the people who make most fancreations, host zines, create merch, host entire conventions, and so forth. Any minors who came into fandom, like me back then, had to be mindful of that and understand that they are the ones who are technically not supposed to be there

Yet these days there are so many minors who almost act entitled and think that adults, who had been there first and had created fandom as it is today, should not be in certain or any fandom spaces. While also at the same time constantly trying to interact with the adult content adult creators make, no matter how much they ask them not to do that

Which even happens in fandoms for franchises that are full on adult content. These days I majorly create for M or E rated fandoms that depict violence and/or sex and still constantly see minors who complain about adults being there

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Re Lolita.

Maybe it's because I went to an IB school that nailed critical thinking skills into you from a young age (seriously- the difference I see is night and day), but we actually read Lolita in eleventh grade English, and none of us walked away thinking it was a good relarionship. The whole reason they even taught it to us was because it bucks the pervasive stereotype of these people being basement dwelling, slobby freaks, and it shows, like domestic abusers often are, these people are often hiding in plain sight. If that's not a deeply important lesson, I don't know what is.

As far as "I'm grossed out by this, it's fucking pedophilia", good for you, I suppose? Do you want a gold star? I'm pretty sure everyone agrees with you, even the people who have certain kinks related to adult/child relationships. But we're not talking about real pedophilia, we're talking about fictional, and you can't even differentiate between the two which is telling enough of how unable you are to think with your brain.

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