#rhaegar is fascinating and like all asoiaf characters he is a grey character

[infinitestalia]

Why do you support aegon who is a rapist but you hate rhaegar. Both cheated on their wives to rape other women. And aegons bastards definitely would put helaena’s children in danger. It’s almost sad how much their stories parallel.

I find this line of questioning disingenuous because if you knew my opinion, you'd know that, unlike Rhaegar fans, I've never said Aegon is a good king or person and do not "support" him, but he can be a great character. Everyone in this story is varying degrees of horrific and reap what they sow. My issue is that Aegon is framed as a cartoonish monster from the go, specifically to further prop up Rhaenyra (while PEDOPHILE Daemon, evil in ways Aegon can only dream of, is some "cool" grandpa), and to condemn Alicent, rather than his rapist father Viserys. Are we not sick of them making every third character a rapist, deliberately or accidentally, as shock value or an edgy writing device? The entire point of the Dance is that both are terrible leaders, two cheeks of the same arse, if you will, yet one side is given the worst interpretation and the other white washed (why are Daemon/Corlys/Rhaenys/Viserys/Rhaenyra not condemned for ANYTHING?). If we're going by Mushroom's accounts, will Rhaenyra have Alicent and Helaena gang raped? I thought not. So why Aegon?

I like characters like Littlefinger, Tywin, Joffrey, etc, who are worse than Aegon and Rhaegar combined. This is ASOIAF, even your fan favourites like Tyrion and the Hound are despicable rapists/murderers/pedos. My issue is when the narrative/fan base will absolve certain characters for the same things that others are condemned for. Aegon- grey/villain- being a run of the mill, Robert Baratheon type tramp as king, in an inevitable civil war he's essentially just another pawn in and is never absolved for his crimes, is not the same as Rhaegar- a so called hero- impregnating a noblewoman, starting a war and it being framed as justified because it was for "love". THAT'S my problem.

And Aegon is just more interesting to me, he is a bunch of fascinating contradictions. The most self aware character on the show, knows all his deficiencies, yet he is incapable of betterment, preferring to stay stuck in a cycle of anger, self pity and loathing. A drunkard, who is the only one who sees the throne for what it is and does not want it. Infinitely far from a moral man as we saw, but the one Targaryen seemingly sickened by incest. He is sent over the edge in rage and grief over the loss of a child he never bothered to love when he was alive, the cycle of neglect he continues from his own father. Wants to please his mother and craves her affection, but all he ever does is cause her pain. Weak and seemingly cowardly, but brave enough to fight his own battles. Depressed, crippled and burned with no desire to live, yet refuses to die. Starved of affection and desperate to be loved, while never really doing anything to be worthy of it. He has few redeeming qualities, but the most beautiful and significant bond between dragon/rider is given to him. With one of the best actors on the show in Tom Glynn Carney, good writers would be able to bring that to life as a bitter tragedy, and yet they have failed at every turn. You don't need to be a good person to be a compelling character.

[theuncannyallie]

Since I've been thinking about GoT/asoiaf for some reason, reminder to self to take care in the rhaegar tags bc this hellsite shits on his character like no other and I do not need to see their garbage takes

[duncan-rohanne]

fave got/asoiaf ships ?

mhhhhmmm okay

jonerys (obviously, i mean, you don’t even need to read the books, just watching 1x01 and you had to know where this is going)

jondry (i’m so mad at the fandom for not giving me that, cause damnit, there is so many possibilities)

dissandei (aka dany/missandei, like jondry, it’s right there, and grey worm is great and all but come on… )

(in alternate universe where jonerys didn’t happen and didn’t have even chance to happen, i’d be the biggest advocate for jondry/dissandei, but alas i’m well fed by jonerys and therefore less annoying)

i’m also very much interested with the rhaegar/lyanna/elia thing, love triangle that had been going on, and you all know i hate love triangles with passion of thousand suns, but they are just intriguing. obviously rhaegar was an ass, thinking with his dick only (how unusual, i know) but some of his descisions go beyond me, i don’t like him but as a character he is fascinating. not to mention i wanna know more about elia and dorne. always and forever.

oberyn/ellaria (they were the bisexual legends and deserved better, and we are back on how hbo managed to fucked up dorne, unforgivable)

jaehaerys/allysane (both proof that you can be the best person in the world but if your children are garbage there is not much you can do)

aemon/naerys, barristan/ashara (both depressing af, but it would make a fantastic story if digged into detail)

maron martell/daenerys I. (the first daenerys, not my dragon queen, we don’t know much about them, but again, it’s dorne and he build water gardes for her and i want to know more)

[bitchfromtheseventhhell]

what are your asoiaf (maybe pre-asoiaf idk) ships? also merci for being in this shit-storm we call a "fandom", you light in darkness

ahh thanks

i had a lot of fun with this.  i’ve deleted more asks than i can count asking me about what ships i don’t like, so getting to squee about what i do and dive down a rabbithole was great!

because i’m a fucking parody of myself, get excited for some layered bullet lists.

Stark 

Canon-era

Ned

Ned x Catelyn

Nedbert 

I like parts of Ned x Ashara, but wouldn’t say I’m #invested in it

Catelyn

Ned x Catelyn

Cat x Jaime was my first crackship and I’ve grown away from it but it holds a fond place in my heart.

Cat x Cersei would be incredible tbh

Cat x Brienne

Robb

Robb x Jeyne

I was big into Robb x Myrcella back in the day.  Less so now, but I’m distantly fond of it.

Throbb (I mean...how can you not love the ship with the name Throbb?  It’s like...perfect...as a ship name....and I hate...ship names....)

Robb x Margaery

I’m also casually into things like Robb x Meera and Robb x one of the Mormonts bc Robb x Northern Ladies is great.

I kind of like Robb x Roslin, but prefer Edmure x Roslin and don’t think the “what if the Red Wedding had never happened” AU is interesting to me at the moment.

Jon

Lately I’ve been super big into Jon x Daenerys (in case ya missed it l o l).

This I find to be hilarious because I think there are definitely receipts to be found somewhere on this website of me going “ew jon/dany is so boring ew” womp wompw omp wopm wopmw

Cackling @ my past self

This also happened with me and SanSan which I find similarly hilarious.

Other than that the main one I have is Jon x Asha (the good ship Crowken) because it’d be most excellent and you know it.  It’s been a while since I wrote it, and they have never interacted so it’s based purely on potential.

Which lends itself well to the mostly unpopulated ship of Jon x Asha x Daenerys, which like...hell yeah hell yeah hell yeah gimme.

Sansa

Hi I’m perpetually in SanSan hell bye  (no, this is not an exagerration)

I also am rowing my little Sansa x Edric rowboat come play it’s great and hits so many of my !!!!!!!!!!s about Sansa’s themework (and also Edric but he’s a smaller character so headcanons abound!)

I wish I shipped Sansa x Brienne more than I do; I salute it from afar tbh, and hope the books will give me more fodder for it.

Sansa x Podrick is heartcluchingly adorable

Sansa x Mya is the lesbian ship that Sansa deserves fight me

I have more emotions than shippy feelings about Sansa and Theon; I think what shippy feels I have come from Theon’s wistfulness more than actively shipping it.

On that note, I also like Sansa x Myrcella a good deal

I’m fond of Sansa x Tyrion tbh and hope they don’t get their marriage anulled in TWOW bc I think that’d be fascinating since everyone assumes it’s gonna happen (including Sansa). I’m down with it as an endgame ship for Sansa t b q h.

Arya

Hello and welcome to my Arya x Gendry tag

I multiship Arya a lot, actually, but AxG hits so many of my personal boners that it’s the big deal in my life and when I find myself in times of trouble, GRRM comes to me, speaking words of wisdom “you can be my forest love and me your forest lass”

I also like Arya x Aegon blame Jo she did this to me

Arya x Myrcella and Arya x Tommen are both wildly underrated ships imo

As is Arya x Shireen

Arya x Hot Pie is something I wasn’t expecting to like but then a few years ago an IRL friend of mine talked about how she goes out, does stuff, and comes home to freshly baked pies and how great that was as a life and I havne’t been able to let go.

Arya x Podrick sure why not

Bran

Bran x Meera = important

Bran x Lyanna Mormont = a big good thing

I respect, even if I don’t ship, Bran x Jojen.  Not so much my thing.  Bran x Meera is where it’s at for me and the Reeds.

Rickon

HI LET DADVOS BREATHE AND MARRY GAY RICKON TO HIS SON STEFFON K BYE.

Pre-series

Elia x Lyanna is v v v important

Arthur x Lyanna is also a good ship

Arya Flint x Rodrik Stark is a great ship too, I keep meaning to write more of them.

Brandon x Barbrey is a hot mess and I love that

Torrhen Stark x Aegon the Conqueror

Targaryen

Daenerys

As mentioned above Jon x Dany is a thing

I’m also into Dany x Tyrion

Peter Dinklage did this to me he’s so gd talented @ fandom please don’t be really gross and ableist when HBO turns this into a love triangle (since they already did).

Ok, let’s be real here, pissing off Tywin Lannister also did this to me though to a lesser extent than Peter Dinklage can you imagine how mad he’d be?  It’d be fantastic.  Fuck that guy so hard.

Dany x Asha also is a good

I’m into Dany x Daario because I like Dany having agency and she chose the actual human peacock so you know what girl I personally wouldn’t go there but I’m glad that you got to choose this particular relationship for yourself.

Everyone Else

As mentioned abouve Arya x Aegon

I crackship Rhaenys x Viserys idk man I just do

Big Into Aegon x Betha

I love Elaena Targaryen and all her love interests but if I had to Pick One it’d be Michael Manwoody

I mostly wish I had a ship for Rhaella.  Maybe Willem Darry??  

Brynden x Shiera is a good ship I have such specific headcanons for them that I did to myself writing a first person modern AU that I keep trying to get people to care about as much as I do.  

God I can’t think of other Targaryens, chances are I ship them lol

Lannister

Tyrion

I like Tyrion x Tysha, but am not sure I ever want them to meet again?  I’m very torn on that front bc both outcomes would mean such different things.

As I said above, I also like both Dany and Sansa as Tyrion ships

I also have a pointless AU in my head that is a Tyrion x Lyanna au, but I’ll never write it bc I don’t have enough of a plot so much as a “wow I’ve liked this for years.”

Cersei

Jaime

Also Cat as a crackship

Also Rhaegar as a “what if”

Jaime

Cersei

Cat as a crackship

I have very torn and mixed feelings about Jaime/Brienne.  It hits a lot of what I like about Brienne, but hits very little of what I care about with Jaime and Saw some Things that Made Me Mad a while back.  And then I read Bea’s thesis about Brienne and got even more confused.  So idk man idk idk idk.  idk.

Baratheon

Robert

Ned is basically the only acceptable ship for Robert tbqh

Though someone wrote a Robert/Cat AU that I liked?

Stannis

Big into Stannis/Asha

And Stannis/Asha/Jon

Also Stannis/Mel

Renly

Loras is it kids.

Gendry

AXG or bust.  I’m a multishipper on Arya’s end but am Not Really on Gendry’s.  Maybe a Heddle sister?  Maybe?  but AXG or Bust TBH.

Shireen

Shireen x Devan is the cutest

I also like Shireen x Edric

And Shireen x Arya

Myrcella

Myrcella x Trystane is adorable

Myrcella x Sansa and Myrcella x Arya are similarly cute

Tommen

I read a Tommen x Arya AU I liked--other than that I don’t have major shippy feels about him.

Other Ships

Alys x Sigorn is a top notch ship

Elia x Arthur is a similarly top notch ship

Missandei x Grey Worm is the best thing to happen on GOT tbh.

I’m at the end of my leash and can’t think of more and this is probably more than you bargained for when you sent this ask isn’t it?

If you’re reading this and you saw me miss something lmk??