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Your au is amazing, like WOW, Cain just loving his father so much he's willing fight for the crown of Hell to give it to him, just yes!

Also, since Cain resuscitated Adam, does that mean he hasn't fallen? because, honestly, a holy angel on the throne of Hell would be such a look

I would like to also throw in my two cent that guitarhero would probaly be a safe bet since with amdasapple you kind of have to navigate the how Lucifer cuck him twice and then taunt him about it, the whole forbidden fruit thing, also Cain has reasons to hate him and Adam would care a lot about that

Cain is 100% willing to throw hands over his father! He fiercely guards close relationships and Adam is the most important one. That boy came out of hiding after 10,000 years of lying low. All to save his father. The Morningstar’s crown is the best protection he can give to his dad.

But yes, Adam is still a holy angel and Lucifer is malding in a corner! I imagine Adam sitting on a thrown made of swords (spears?) like in Game of Thrones. He’s still sickly but can lift his head and gives off a heavenly glow. Cain is in the background watching to make sure people stay in their lane. Pray for the impudent fools who try to attack haha.

As for the pairing for Adam. Yeah, Adamsapple is harder to work with than Guitarhero in this AU. Adam’s health is the reason why Lucifer is an option at all. It involves how angels can stand being in hell. If you know Made in Abyss you can kind of get an idea. I don’t want to say alot because I’m still not completely sure.

(I have an idea on how Lucifer can make up for what he’s done to Adam in a more cannon setting but I think that has to be in another AU. Or I can give it to the world to play with.)

Guitarhero works because I imagine Michael has interacted with Adam as the Angel of Protection (War?). In this AU Adam would have taken Michael’s place as the head Executioner due to a contract. This contract is extremely important and is the reason why humans even get to go to Hell or Heaven. Michael would be the only angel who understands Adam’s emotional pain in Heaven and does his best to fix the problem. He gains Adam’s respect for that.

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I love your new au about cain

I imagine adam used to comfort cain whenever heaven or eve would favor abel more than cain by saying something like this:

"Abel will be the son of eve and heaven, but you, my little star, shall be mine."

Bawww that you very much. I’m glad you like it. I’m genuinely surprised it’s gotten this much attention.

Adam did say things like that at first but found it sent the wrong signals to Cain and Able. If Cain got more of Adam’s attention because Able got Heaven’s attention, then Able gets hurt. ‘It’s not my fault Heaven talks to me! I prefer dad too!’ Able would be the favorite child treated like a doll/slave but nobody sees it that way because he gets nice stuff. Meanwhile Cain is neglected by family members he sees as important. That’s his mother, aunts and uncles yet they won’t even look at him! [Cain cried his heart out when Sera lets the truth slip. Able finds him first.]

Adam did his best to not show favoritism but also make up for Heaven’s obvious preferences. Poor Adam bumbled around since he was the first father. There wasn’t any guide book or history he could draw upon. It caused some animosity between the them until Able matured enough to understand his older brother’s plight. Normal sibling behavior lol.

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The thing about Lucifer is that he's the king of Pride, he truly does not think he did anything wrong, he regrets having to face the consequences of his actions, not the action it self, that would require him to consider that he might be wrong, and a Cain is basically the result of his multiple fuck ups, but he's also his son and that will probably make him unsure on how to handle this. Not to mention, Charlie, being Charlie wil probably want to interaction with her estrange brother

Hole in one! You literally got everything. Lucifer is a family man like Adam and will eventually feel drawn towards bringing Cain under the Morningstar name. Problem is, Lucifer cares about Lilith and if there's anyone with more pride then Lucifer it's the Queen of Hell. There's no way she'd stand for Eve's kid in her house. It may not matter if Cain becomes a Morningstar because she'd just throw him right back out. Charlie has always wanted a sibling and is all about talking things out so maybe a 2v1 over Cain.

As far as Cain is concerned it's all harassment! Why can't people just have regular enemy dialogue nowadays?

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I really like your au! Honestly, most of the fandom really goes with Charlie and supports her zeal (no judgment, she's the protagonist, so that's fine). But I'm very interested to hear about how Cain is trying to stop the hotel from developing!

Also, if Cain had been a participant in “You Didn’t Know” how would he have behaved while listening to Emily and Charlie? How did he even react to the Exterminations themselves?

I can tell you our boi tries to level the hotel using his magick. He gets faulty information on Lucifer’s whereabouts so the King of Hell appears to soon and starts fighting back. It’s one of the long distance tiffs Lucifer and Cain have.

I’m going to rearrange some established events for the song question :

1. The Adam v Hazbin Hotel never happens.

2. Adam or Lute accidentally kills a hellborn in an Extermination allowing Lucifer to fight. The fight goes as in cannon and Nifty kills Adam.

3. Charlie is called up to Heaven since Adam’s murderer is her responsibility.

As for the song, Cain would need to be invited to Heaven first. Being in Heaven is not the decent trip he was expecting. The angelic court would call him The Bastard Prince of Hell. Nobody would use his real name.

Cain can’t believe Charlie’s horrible court decorum. Sure, he wants to know how souls are sorted but his half sister is picking the wrong fights, pushing the wrong buttons. She’s causing the archangels to get defensive instead of inviting them to cooperate.

When the two girls break out into song Cain accepts that Charlie has ruined his chance to speak his peace. The angelic court is scared. So he counters Charlie and Emily by turning the song back on them. Going from “You Didn’t Know” to “Best be Careful” or perhaps more antagonistically ‘No Means No.’ The two girls lose steam and eventually grit their teeth as he keeps singing.

As for the Exterminations, Cain sees them as completely justified. The reason why he believes that will have to be in a longer post. Sorry 😞 .

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Cain a Daddy's boy!

Also, did Lucifer knows that Cain's his son or is he just realized it with the rest of Hell?

Another thing, I get the feeling that if Charlie reveal the fact Sir Pentious is redeemed and is now an angel, Cain would fire back the to be redeem, he got obliterated by holy light so if a sinner want to prove themself 'redeem', they would have to willingly subject themself to potential permanent death

Lucifer didn’t know he had another child but he did know Cain existed through word of mouth. So he finds out Cain is his son with the rest of hell on live TV. He’s in denial for a while before confirming that Cain isn’t some sort of shapeshifter. Also, he may or may not have sent out spies to see where Cain has been hiding.

Cain is stunned that Sir Pentious is in Heaven. The announcement makes him look like a fool after confronting his half sister, dirtied and with his Imp friends. The public's opinion turns in Charlie's favor and she tries to capitalize on this. That's when Cain points out that ‘redemption’ is just another game played by the Morningstars. Probably likens it to Russian Roulette or the Knife Game. 'Was it actually redemption or a consequence unrelated to removing sin?' Unfortunately this mystery drives people towards the Hazbin Hotel instead of away from it. Everyone wants to know the truth and Charlie is easier to get ahold of than Cain.

So Cain takes a risk. He gives a press statement stating there's proof his father is the reason why Sir Pentious got into Heaven and that The Lead Exterminator is alive. News stations devolve into Redeemed Sinner vs Living Adam content. However, Cain has to be careful because Adam is in a really weak state so too much attention could backfire. But he can't let Charlie gain public sympathy considering what he plans to do.

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Hi, your au is really cool, and Cain is just amazing

I can't even imagine the issues Cain has, being the literal bastard son of the Devil

I have to ask, will Abel or any of Adam's other children show up?

I also love that Adam kind of fuck up his children, sometimes your parents could love you so much but still fuck you up in some way, Adam doesn't know shit what he's doing, he loves both of his sons but Abel is getting attention and praise from Eve and the angels where as Cain is getting none so the obvious course of action, to him, is to give Cain his time and attention and that fuck them up both so bad

So far, only Able has been worked into the story. Cain's little brother is there for more than just angst. I wanted to give him a real purpose in the AU and I'm pretty happy with how he's turned out. I'm thinking about adding Seth and looking into who exactly Aclama is. However, I probably won't have fun keeping track of all 4 children. I theorize all day in my head but writing an AU is a beast I'm unfamiliar with.

Info for Able will come soon!

As for Adam's parenting, he definitely struggled like any new dad. He's messed up, got hurt and figured things out right alongside his wife and kids. His family is the “Directions Unclear” meme! The angels gave IKEA level instructions and left until they wanted Able. Sad thing is, Adam's solution to the imbalance is the same one he desperately yearned for from Lucifer. Cain lived a similar life to Adam so he gives his eldest what he's always wanted. Later on the consequences hit them all.

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How is Adam in the time of the broadcast, anyway, since he got stabbed with angelic steel and presumably lose a lot of blood, being an angel in Hell probably wouldn't help the matter

Adam is pretty beat up and is basically on life support so he isn't aware of the broadcast. His body is currently trying to keep itself from Hell's natural corruption without the normal ability to do so. Stress has caused him to grow gaunt. At least Cain managed to save the parts of Adam the Cannibal Colony carved up for transit.

The First Man has lost a lof of blood which means transfusions are a life or death matter. Only problem is he's still a holy angel. Demon or Sinner blood will kill him. There is a temporary fix to keep Adam live. It's not Cain. :D

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You know, Cain can make an arguement that if you are striving for redemption for the sake of reaching heaven, it invalidate said redemption attempt, plus to see if you are worthy of Heaven, you have to subject yourself to death via angelic means to be rejudge. Since that basically what happen with Sir Pentious

One of Cain's talking points mentions intent. He reasons that striving for Heaven due to self interest does not equal redemption. It's just a form of Greed and/or Pride. Forgiveness can equal redemption and that means making amends with those you have hurt, including yourself, and whom have hurt you. Forgiveness is earned and must be done in good faith/without force. The angelic Russian Roulette isn't very comforting either. Naturally Sinners try to do second judgements on their own. "Screw you Princess!" You can imagine how well that goes.

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From Lucifer, do you mean that Adam use to spend time with Lucifer but when Lilith came into the picture, he got ignore?

Yes. Please note: I'm borrowing from the fandom's head cannon that Lucifer and Adam were friends at some point. Specifically the time between Adam's creation and Lilith's creation. Lucifer is flippant and ended up gravitating towards the newest thing in the garden which was Lilith. This hyper fixation dissolved the friendship Adam and Lucifer had. The First Human didn't understand what emotional pain was because pain was not supposed to exist in the garden. He was not made to process it. Lilith on the other hand was a human 2.0 and had Lucifer explaining everything to her, so she adjusts well and lashes out at Adam for not being able to do the same.

Adam wanted nothing more than for Lucifer to stop ignoring him and apologies for abandoning him. Betraying the loyalty he didn't know he gave the Archangel. The apology never happens and it destroys a portion of Adam's self worth.

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Ok, hear me out, Adam being out of it with blood lost, openining his eyes to see Cain after so long and just singing "Fourth of July" by Sufjan Stevens to Cain

Just the lyrics "Did you get enough love, my little dove? Why do you cry?" Seriously, it fit so well

That's heartbreaking. Cain would start crying over his father if he wasn't already. Somehow characters softly singing or saying things from the heart while half out of it is a satisfying trope.

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Your Cain au is pretty cool, usually I'm not fan cain being son of lucifer because it is just used as joke without thinking the real conseguences and the fact it is asshole move fromlucifer,nothing about being a sweet innocent dreamer. I read you want to put michael in change of exocists but i think it would be more cool if you put Abel as second of Lute. Abel doesn't hate sinner but he dehumanizes them seeing just souls they can raise power of overlord and lilith and attack heaven/earth again. The funny thing he is contact with Cain and has already forgiven him, so he helps his big brother with his plain.

It would be create a great contrast between lucifer and his siblings, because lucifer is not sorry he is sorry for consequences.

Lucifer: How have you forgive him?

Abel: Because he is really sorry for what he did to me and our family and took accontability of his actians, never for a moment he thought he was a poor victim of circumstances. His love is stronger than his pride and I'm the same.

When Charlie thought the things they are going to be bad for moments than get better , I laught so hard. I'm EU citizen who lives in UK, and pro brexit said the same and without a plain, you see how is going on now!

That's a cool idea! Unfortunately, Able is not in Heaven so he can't be part of the Executioners. Any conversation between Able and Lucifer would involve Cain physically being there. It would devolve into both powerful men verbally going at each other.

I wish you luck with Brexit. I've watched some documentaries about businesses having a ridiculously hard time transporting goods. The fact that every permission has to be filed all over again is unreasonable.

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How are things in Heaven in this au, with the Exermination now public knowledge

It's not public knowledge yet in this AU. I didn't know it was officially exposed to all of Heaven in cannon but let's ignore my ignorance lol.

My AU's Heaven has a way of smoothing things over which helps keep the few informed souls and angels in line. Normally these techniques help new souls who have traumatic deaths keep calm. Please note that this info will probably never come up again.

Angelic sent: just like how Hell has an intrinsic smell so does Heaven but it comes from Angels. The smell calms down any negative emotions but can't get rid of them. In this case panic over the Exterminations is kept low and nobody feels the need to spread the information. This sent has to be purposefully shut off but doing so is uncomfortable so Heaven is filled with the stuff. It smells like comfort.

2. Decontamination Area: A soft place where souls are ferried off after going through the gates if they show any signs of stress. This is also a second area were souls can be reunited with loved ones. An evaluation takes place around the time Peter calls a soul's name.

I'd like to point out that St. Peter's job is basically useless so I gave it a point. He does not do a song and dance every time someone comes in as much as I wish he did. He'd have such a backlog of souls and no time for a lunch break. Everybody who shows up at the gates are meant for Heaven so why is he checking his giga logbook? Everyone destined for Hell just gets thrown down there automatically. Oof.

Hopefully nobody is mad at that. ilu Peter. You're such a cute character but you need more screen time for me to do anything with you that's not... well... ya know.

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Ah! Love your AU! I can’t wait to see Abel’s role in your story! Cain claiming the crown? Love it! Technically, he can have a say for the crown because he is still Lucifer’s bloodline. But imagine Lilith though… then again we have no clue what her personality is so creating a scenario with her in it will be hard. How would Lilith fit into this?

Able's role will be interesting. I haven't seen him depicted this before but I'm not an Able aficionado so my idea could be an overused trope. I have no clue.

I'm working off of some Helluva Boss information (possibly OLD) regarding bloodlines and how inheritance works. I imagine that because Cain is half human he's the last option, if even an option at all. He could DEMAND compensation from Lucifer but considering how they feel about one another I highly doubt Cain would ask for a rock.

Lilith has just enough spicy cannon information to make her a villain or misunderstood saint. Either way, she wouldn't allow Cain on the throne through inheritance. She'd probably rather birth 10 more children then let the bastard son of the woman who 'replaced her' claim the crown through bloodline. I imagine that she'd work towards keeping herself in power over supporting her daughter and husband. Even in the intro for Hazbin Hotel it shows she mainly works to satisfy herself over her fellows.

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where is Abel?

Don't worry, he's here! :D Soon.

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True! Cain does his best to rip into ‘the other family’ every chance he gets. While I do really freaking dislike Charlie and want to see a character tear her down it’s only so that she gets some self awareness. Honestly, she’s probably brainwashed by her mother in cannon because otherwise Charlie is a sweet, albeit extremely naive, young woman. Cain’s constant fortitude checks on Charlie help her get better. She’s gotta roll a lot of natD20 if she wants to keep ignorant. Big brother learned to be very, very loud and hard to ignore! He just spams [Vicious Mockery]. lol

I said I can’t write but if felt nice getting that other idea out of my head. So I wrote this and will post. Technically I started trying to write this like a month ago… Please ignore the constant switching between past and present tense. It’s something I never seem to notice until someone else points out where it is.

Prompt: Professionals hate him but he was right! [Adam] Heaven and Hell come to the realization that The First Man played a larger part in the three realms’ political/social ecosystem than they thought. His absence leaves a vacuum that Lute is unable to fill but she may not need to because Hell is solving the problem themselves… The Morningstar Family can’t run from this.

No ABetaO we expire like Adam~

Imagine that Adam dies, the hotel has never looked better, the residents have healed up and Charlie gets another TV appearance. Lucifer is even more depressed than before but hides it. Adam is gone She’s going to reveal Sir Pentious’ redemption with evidence that is NOT childishly scribbled on key cards. Instead of the interview taking place in the 666News studio it’s held outside the hotel. She will take questions, live, right after the interview. Katie Killjoy wants to give the public a chance to cause chaos for ratings, so she puts Charlie in a vulnerable position.

Things go great… for the first 20 minutes. The interview isn’t even half way done when someone from the crowd interjects after Charlie says ‘The Sinners have a better life now that the Exterminations are permanently canceled.’

That person’s voice is calm but still pissed as Hell. They fire back that no, Sinners don’t have an easier life now that the Exterminations are over. It’s worse! Charlie and the crowd perk up.

The voice moves to the front. They’re short with plain street clothes, hood up. It’s obvious they’re poor and at the bottom of Hell’s pecking order. A couple of Imps are with them equally disheveled and tired looking. The man goes on to point out some rather hard truths.

Thanks to the last Extermination, angelic steel has become a hot commodity. While uncommon right now, there’s a pipeline to obtain an angelic weapon. All you need is enough money. Carmilla Carmine doesn’t care about how her product is used after purchase.

‘Permanent Murder’ is a new trend on HellTube netting ridiculous profits. The main targets are vulnerable Sinners, usually the scared and alone new arrivals, Imps and Hellhounds. All killed by beautifully glowing angelic weapons.

Overlords are more formidable with these weapons so the chance of contractees escaping, like Angeldust, has become damn near impossible even if they destroyed their contract. Some desperate souls were happy with their messed up immortality. It gave them some hope, ‘at least I have a chance to turn things around eventually,’ but that pathetic security is gone.

The Exterminations kept said Overlords in check to a degree. They were more inclined to take care of their underlings because that guaranteed their safety. Now? Just get an angelic gun for all your troubles. Valentino is having a fucking field day.

The ‘permadeath’ toll for one year will be ten times the amount of one Extermination Day considering how much Hell’s citizens like to kill Sinners…

Not to mention, whole industries in Hell, from top to bottom, are starting to crash. Their purpose or sales revolved around the Exterminations. Some workers cannot afford to lose their job and have to sell their soul against their will.

Etcetcetc

As the man speaks Charlie is surprised to see heads nodding in agreement! Someone comments that they hadn’t seen their Sinner friend in a few days and tries not to panic while another face falls in the crowd and wrings their hands together. An Imp with curved horns standing beside a young Hellhound sweats profusely and starts to leave. Tension moves through the public. Not just the ones in front of the stage but also those watching TV.

Despite her best efforts Charlie cannot lift the crowd’s mood. She realizes prematurely revealing Sir Pentious’ redemption is the only way to salvage this growing disaster. Unfortunately the man’s timing is perfect because the second she opens her mouth he turns his anger on the Morningstars.

He calls out how much her family misrepresents themselves as rulers. They don’t do anything for Hell anymore. They spend most of their time fucking around while the Sinners suffer. The other Sins manage their rings and hellborn, not Lucifer or Lilith. All three of the Morningstars can’t truly understand human suffering yet they profess to know how to best handle it. With no idea what it means to be human yet they pass judgement on them.

The crowd becomes agitated and the Imps beside the man move closer to him. They aren’t trying to draw safety from the Sinner but are taking defensive positions. Charlie realizes this isn’t someone speaking up in the heat of the moment. This is a planned speech. He’s highjacking her broadcast!

She sees the Sinner clench his fists and feels herself start to sweat. Why was he saying any of that? Yes, life will be a bit hard at first but now everyone can come together and rebuild! There are so many possibilities available to The Pride Ring. It would improve lives. Change was always good they just had to be careful. Yet the stranger goes on.

He claims that Lucifer is a washed up angel that can’t comprehend mortality because of his maladaptive dreaming and pride, Lilith is apathetic to Sinners and wishes to aggravate Heaven no matter how much Hell will suffer and Charlie is so sheltered that she thinks PTSD can be solved by clapping and saying positive affirmations.

Little is known about the royal family but the stranger’s comments sway the crowd. The hotel’s original commercials got the time of day because of Charlie’s status, not because the facility had managed to accomplish anything. Lucifer barely appears at all even when large fights break out leveling half of Pentagram City. And Lilith? Missing for 7 years after riling up all of Hell multiple times, causing Heaven to start the Exterminations.

The stranger calls the hotel a disgusting joke. Calls out how Charlie is trying to ‘pass the buck’ over to Heaven. The Pride Ring’s actual rulers are Overlords and they make sure Sinners suffer and continue to act depraved whether they like it or not. Her family has the power to take control and lessen the city’s suffering but they don’t. Instead they play with their little pet project .

Why are they focusing on shipping problems elsewhere? There’s a better way to solve the pain and suffering at the source than waiting! Fix Pentagram City! Show Heaven that the current number of Sinners isn’t a threat!

‘For all the crying and sniveling you do Princess Charlotte, you sure don’t actually help where it counts! I’m sure you care about Sinners but only on the same level as someone cares about cute public park ducks.’

Vaggie, who had been standing to the side of the stage leaps forward, places herself in between the stranger and her girlfriend. Everyone’s raised emotions have put her on edge. She ignores the harsh gasps when her angelic spear slides free and into her hands. ‘Back up! Now!’

Charlie’s heart sank at the escalation. She understood her girlfriend was still tense from the extermination but all their hard work was starting to fray around the edges! She just hoped her dad didn’t-

The King of Hell himself appears through a portal shortly after gathering himself together. The opening looked angrier in color, matching his mood. Sickly green lines run throughout the glow, radiating blistering heat. Parts of the stage began to melt and the forgotten camera crew swivel to their ruler. Lucifer’s face is set in stone but his bright flickering eyes give him away.

‘Who the fuck are you?’ He snarls, apple topped cane slamming onto the stage causing some of it to splatter. ‘How dare you speak to my daughter that way.’ Lucifer’s face morphs into a more demonic grimace. Katie Killjoy scrambles from her chair and off the stage at the same time as Charlie vaulting up to place a hand on Lucifer’s shoulder whispering ‘dad no!’ She doesn’t want the hotel’s improved reputation to evaporate. A confrontation with someone on live TV would scare people away!

Lucifer growls in the back of his throat, looking at where he assumes the bastard’s eyes are under his hood. Smoke and embers sizzle out from the corner of his mouth and inbetween teeth. He hated acting this way but he had an image to uphold. ‘Answer your King you wretch. Don’t confuse my inaction with benevolence. You’re testing my patience!’

After a beat or two of staring each other down the stranger has the gall to ‘tsk’ off to the side as if spitting. ‘As you with your majesty. It’s all fine by me.’ A small, scared hand reaches up and whips off the dirty hood exposing his face to all of Hell.

People instantly whip out their phones. His face is shockingly similar to Lucifer’s, in fact a basic carbon copy sans a few attributes.

Cameras catch alabaster skin and soft, blond, curly hair, short, wiry build, vivid green eyes, pale coral cheek markings, pointed ears and four demon wings the same color as his skin.

Leaf green eyes stair directly into Charlie’s while electing to ignore both fallen angels. He stands ramrod straight. Cutting a regal silhouette despite the filth on his body and clothes.

‘My name is Cain Adamson, The Wandering Star.’ He bows in a fashion Charlie hadn’t seen in all her galas. ‘Lucifer Morningstar’s first born and bastard son. It’s nice to finally meet you sister mine… I’ll be taking your family’s crown for my father.’

[So in this AU Cain rescued Adam’s body and resuscitated it. They had a familial bond even when Cain got banished for murdering Able and found out his bio dad was Lucifer. Eve didn’t pay much attention to her first born out of guilt so Adam stepped up. No one shamed her. Adam never felt like Cain was separate from his other kids even though he looked nothing like him. Now Cain wants to provide for his father who’s trapped in hell and in really bad condition by booting the Morningstars out of power in the Pride Ring.] Dunno about pairing but Adamsapple or Guitarhero would be a safe bet. Either way Lucifer will suffer lol

[wtf do I call this? Family Feud AU? Chessboard AU? Secret Brother AU? Idk h e l p ]

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I doubt Cain needs to make too much about charlie reputation because Vs are going to destroy it. Charlie doesn't know how redeption works so I can see people got impatient after abit, but overlords would become a obstacle,because redeptim means losing their souls, and i cannot see them wacthing without doing everything. In middle time cain aleast has approval of hellborns who are more than sinners

Cain a Daddy's boy!

Also, did Lucifer knows that Cain's his son or is he just realized it with the rest of Hell?

Another thing, I get the feeling that if Charlie reveal the fact Sir Pentious is redeemed and is now an angel, Cain would fire back the to be redeem, he got obliterated by holy light so if a sinner want to prove themself 'redeem', they would have to willingly subject themself to potential permanent death

Lucifer didn’t know he had another child but he did know Cain existed through word of mouth. So he finds out Cain is his son with the rest of hell on live TV. He’s in denial for a while before confirming that Cain isn’t some sort of shapeshifter. Also, he may or may not have sent out spies to see where Cain has been hiding.

Cain is stunned that Sir Pentious is in Heaven. The announcement makes him look like a fool after confronting his half sister, dirtied and with his Imp friends. The public's opinion turns in Charlie's favor and she tries to capitalize on this. That's when Cain points out that ‘redemption’ is just another game played by the Morningstars. Probably likens it to Russian Roulette or the Knife Game. 'Was it actually redemption or a consequence unrelated to removing sin?' Unfortunately this mystery drives people towards the Hazbin Hotel instead of away from it. Everyone wants to know the truth and Charlie is easier to get ahold of than Cain.

So Cain takes a risk. He gives a press statement stating there's proof his father is the reason why Sir Pentious got into Heaven and that The Lead Exterminator is alive. News stations devolve into Redeemed Sinner vs Living Adam content. However, Cain has to be careful because Adam is in a really weak state so too much attention could backfire. But he can't let Charlie gain public sympathy considering what he plans to do.