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Animatic ideas for TES Oblivion.

I'm a big fan of this game, I haven't played the remastered version yet but I will propose ideas for new /old fans who can draw. No like me :(.

Black Gryph0n & Baasik – Insane , for hero of kvatch who is slowing turning in Sheragath

Jorge Rivera-Herrans, Anna Lea - Would You Fall In Love With Me Again. For the fans of HoK x martin septim after both have became divinities.

Survive Jorge Rivera-Herrans & Steven Dookie . The battle of bruma.

Tell me your ideas!

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"...You've been a good friend, in the short time that I've known you. But now I must go. The Dragon waits."

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Until I didn't read this post, I didn't undestand that signora draw sam as centaur!

There is better, she sees him as Chiron!

It's so cute how she clearly found a muse... in Sam

Also I agree with Andy hehe

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Hades 2 Ending breaking the time-loop.

I believe we are going to have two possible endings: a time loop ending and a real ending. In the first one, Melinoe continues to ignore the gods' faults, which causes a fallout between her shades and mortal friends. For example, not uncursing Arachne and blaming Dora/Pandora for the fall of humanity would make these women side with the Titans.

At first, these two women siding with the Titans don’t seem like a problem, but they will become instrumental for the Titans against the gods.

Arachne: Some dialogue in the game implies the true motivation she was punished was her ability with weaving. The Fates believe that if Arachne is left alone, she might evolve her skills too much, to the point where she could manipulate fate. So, turning her into a spider was a way to stop that potential. Arachne, learning about this, pushes her ability even further, and despite being a spider, she learns weaving magic. A classic case of self-fulfilling prophecy.

Dora/Pandora: Now, Dora is just a shade without memories who likes pranking, but remembering her past would be devastating for her. Melinoe acting as Pandora/Dora in the wrong would fuel her resentment. Pandora would be an incredible asset for the Titans, seeing that Pandora was created with the gods’ gifts, making her not only beautiful, smart, and cunning, but essentially a "superwoman."

If my theory about Penelope siding with the Titans is correct, Penelope, with her cunning, intelligence, and patience, would already be a precious ally for the Titans. After her death, Penelope’s weaving skills grow so much that she gains weaving magic, and she could teach this to Pandora and Arachne. The Fates don't know about her abilities or her siding with the Titans because she’s dead.

Now, this is the intriguing part: Chronos in the game kidnaps the Fates, but with these three women, it might create three potential new Fates.

Odysseus and Penelope, though separated after their deaths, don’t stop caring about each other. Odysseus would ask the player to give her a quick, definitive death because he understands Penelope is an enemy. However, he begs not to send her to the gods, as they would punish her terribly. If Melinoe allows the gods to punish her, Odysseus would abandon the war. After this event, Hecate loses her strategist, a huge blow, and Melinoe meets Odysseus again, who has drunk from the River Lethe.

Odysseus doesn't remember his past, but he keeps recreating figures of the people he loves but doesn't remember. These figures have heroic or beautiful poses, except for one—Melinoe’s. This one represents Melinoe as a vindictive goddess, but at the same time, it means Odysseus still loves Melinoe, but he fears and is disappointed in her.

After these events, Melinoe tries to kill Chronos with a specific spell, but it fails, sending her into a different timeline ,this happens because time cannot be stopped.

Melinoe, now Hecate, is forced to create a new identity and life. She takes part in the Titanomachy after Hecate swore she would never let Chronos get free and avoid the events of Hades 2, but she failed. Once again, the Titans escaped despite her role as guardian, and once again, her family is captured. She loved Hades' house, even though she could never be part of the family as they daughter. So, her crying about Persephone isn’t about a lover, but her mother. The scene where Hades entrusted Melinoe to Hecate, which is incredibly emotional, makes a lot of sense. For that reason, Hecate refuses to be the mother of Melinoe.

The worst thing is that Melinoe subconsciously remembers the previous loops. In the Book of Shadows, on the page about Melinoe, it is written: "It is all your fault." That would give the players disbelief and shock because, how many times has this happened? Which Melinoe are we playing in the game?

In the true ending, Melinoe doesn’t do the things I mentioned earlier or killing Penelope by request from Odysseus. Instead, she earns the trust of Penelope and Prometheus, showing she is changing her approach with humans and gods. Prometheus reveals he is aware of the time loops, but Melinoe can break them if she stops sorting out Chronos in the gods' way. Melinoe understands she can’t stop time, and she needs the help of Penelope, Arachne, and Dora. Using Dora's box, they create a trap for Chronos. After trapping him, Melinoe would hand him over to Chaos as a jailer.

Like in Hades 1, bringing Penelope home doesn’t stop the game because there is still a big problem. Melinoe needs to find a way to stop the war. Now that she has earned the trust of Penelope and Prometheus, they reveal who freed the Titans: Zeus, because Zagreus, during the game, earns the blessing of Gaia, a sign of future leadership. So he freed the titans in hope to kill Zagreus. Melinoe doesn’t believe it until Hera confirms and explains she couldn’t say.

So, while the war is still going on, Melinoe needs to find a way to prove Zeus' guilt. This time, she has the help of her family now free. Once Melinoe has the proof, she can create a trial against Zeus or use blackmail. The result is a peace treaty between humans, Titans, and gods. The gods can't do whatever they want to humans anymore.

During and after the trial, there will still be rogue elements, and now Melinoe's goal is to put the souls to rest. Melinoe can interact with Penelope and Prometheus, giving them nectar and building relationships with them. Penelope would be seen with Arachne in her lair, spending time together just for their pleasure. Earning Penelope’s trust and completing the trial against Zeus means Melinoe can try to reunite Penelope and Odysseus. Melinoe could learn dream magic from Penelope, while from Prometheus, she learns about time loops and parallel worlds.

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I believe nemesis is also frustrated she can't punish the gods. Perfect example Circe and scylla. Circe is often seen as feminist simbol, when she is in fact a bully, she turns people in animals or monster for pretty reasons, pico for example refused her because married and in love. She turned him in a bird and his wife died of brokenheart. In case of scylla is worst. A god fell in love with scylla who doesn't want him, so he decided to buy a love potion from circe. Now if circe was this example of feminism she would punish him, we didn't care about scylla 's will. No ,circe is jealous of scylla becausr she likes this god and turns her in a monster. Damn, i think if nemesis was given the opportunity she would make circe pays!

The way Hades 2 has been dropping hints about anti-status quo with Prometheus and Eris is so interesting to me because Mel can’t grasp it but she has so much to loose if things go back to Before. Obviously these fuckers are beating the shit out of her on the reg. and also they’ve allied (?) themselves with Chronos (which really makes this whole thing so much more complicated) but also because Mel was raised by Hecate, she’s been conditioned to think only one way. Any time Mel tries to process the more complicated emotions that these conversations cause within her, Hecate shuts it down because she doesn’t want Mel distracted from the mission. But what comes after ?? Melinoe finally helps get rid of Chronos and gets her family back and?? Everything goes back to the way it was ?? Where Gods can get annoyed at mortals and curse them forever (Dora and Arachne) and a world where Icarus looses his freedom again?? Chronos is obviously causing distress and suffering but there’s also the potential for something new to come out the other side of this story, if only Melinoe is willing to see it.

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okay, so Vampyr's lore is that King Arthur was a real, historical figure, that Myrddin turned him in a vampire to fight the Red Queen/the Disaster, and that he failed so super hard that his entire time period fell into obscurity and became warped into myth.

okay so I am. so fucking haunted. Annales Cambriae dates Arthur's death c. 537-539. Justinian's Plague, the first plague pandemic, starts 541. historians know very little about Britain during this time. and I'm just. oh my God, it has such beautiful potential. Oh Dontnod, I'm so sorry for talking shit about your worldbuilding. this is excellent writing fodder.

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Ironically, I have a headcanon that Carl Eldritch has a beautiful, easy-on-the-ears, and suave voice, similar to that of Gideon Emery. Eldritch's voice is more authoritative and older than Fernis . But if Carl removes his glamour and shifts to his true age ,his voice would be more playful, yet still carry a hidden predatory nature, emphasizing that he was young when he was turned into a Nemdor, though he has lived for centaries.

Now, I need to think of a beautiful voice for Kendall Stone as well, because clearly, a beautiful voice is a requirement for becoming the leader of Priwen. I mean, we've heard Geoffrey!

Do you have any ideas for which voice actor would suit Stone? How I see Stone is that he's a scholar but also a warrior—eloquent but with dark humor. For example, he’s the one who named Carl Eldritch, first name means 'free man' but last name means strange or unnatural, especially in a way that inspires fear!

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Why Did swasea steal Barker.

It is a comical fic, based on my headcanon on Carl being a nemdor. Despite being a comical one it explores some actions of swansea and how he earnt his title of troublemaker

JONATHAN: Swansea I really appreciate the weapons you give me.

SWANSEA, happy: Don’t mention it!

JONATHAN, nervous: Yes but I couldn’t notice, you give me a gun called Barker. The notes you gave me about the weapon explained the gun used to belong to Carl Eldritch. Is just a copy of the gun, isn’t?

SWANSEA: No, Jonathan I stole that gun from that motherfucker.

JONATHAN, shocked by Swansea language: Why?!!

SWANSEA, angry: Carl KNOWS why!

FLASHBACK. SWANSEA WAS PART OF EXCHANGE PROGRAM BETWEEN PRIWEN AND BROTHERHOOD. SWANSEA BECAME ALSO FRIEND WITH GEOFFREY, BUT BEING OUTSIDE MAKE SWANSEA AWARE ABOUT SOMETHING WASN’T NORMAL IN PRIWER.

SWANSEA,Leaning over Geoffrey's desk, conspiratorially: You know, Eldritch, he's… peculiar.

GEOFFREY,Eyes glued to a file:Peculiar? How so? He's the best damn hunter we have.

SWANSEA: Best? Yes. But… have you ever seen him eat anything other than tea and soup?

GEOFFREY,Scoffs: He's a man of simple tastes and weak stomach.

SWANSEA:Simple tastes? Weak? The man could wrestle a vulkod and then calmly sip his Earl Grey on the top of their body. And those hunts! Weeks on end, alone. Against powerful vampires. Never once he come in my office for an injury!

GEOFFREY,Raises an eyebrow: He's a legend, Swansea. A force of nature.

SWANSEA:Force of nature? Or something… else? Have you ever seen the way he interrogates vampires? Like a wolf circling its prey. And those eyes… cold, predatory…like he is watching his meal!

GEOFFREY ,indifferent:You sound like you've been reading too many of those cheap vampire novels.

SWANSEA,Ignoring him:If he decides that day torture isn’t funny enough… he seduces them.

GEOFFREY,smirking: Carl and seduction cannot be in same sentence. He is a man of action not of physiologic game.

SWANSEA,irritated: He clearly avoids to use his... charm mode around you but if you talk with older hunters they can confirm you that Eldritch would use every advances he can.

They told me stories about … Eldritch honey-trapped vampires. Male, female, doesn't matter. They practically melt into a puddle at his feet. Geoffrey, vampires are drawn to power but in different way. A powerful human is something vampire want to own and subdue, but in front powerful vampires they would become submissive. And Eldritch… he exudes power and subjugates them with few simple words. It isn’t normal!

GEOFFREY,Chuckles: You're seeing things, Swansea. Carl's just… intimidating.

SWANSEA,Frustrated: You're all blind! You've grown accustomed to him. You see what you want to see. But I know what I've seen. I've seen the way he moves, the way he hunts… it's not human, Geoffrey. It's… something else.

Geoffrey, calmly: He is just a skillet hunter. You are going to tell me Madeline, our second-in-command, is strange too?

SWANSEA ,Shocked: You're starting to sound like you've been hit in the head one too many times on those hunts. She is too powerful.

GEOFFREY, taking a cigarette: How so? She's just incredibly skilled.

SWANSEA: Skilled? Yes. But… have you ever seen her pick you up? From the floor? You're not exactly a featherweight, Geoffrey. You're built like a Greek statue.

GEOFFREY, Sarcastically: If I didn't know you better, I'd think you were body-shaming me and suggesting women can't be strong. She just… likes to pick me up. She practically raised me, after all.

SWANSEA, Slowly: She picks you up like you're a child. Like you weigh no more than five pounds! She is supernaturally strong! Like a Greek hero. (Pauses) Like she could effortlessly throw a grown man across a room.

GEOFFREY ,Chuckles: Funny, Carl painted her as Atalanta in his painting. With wolves instead of bears, of course. He told me wolves are more appropriate for her.

SWANSEA, The ring of suspicion intensifies to mention of wolves: Carl? Atalanta? Wolves? I need to check if your brain wasn't damaged on your last hunt! She always eats her meat almost raw.

GEOFFREY, Calmly, nonchalant: Ah no, sometimes she eats it directly raw!

SWANSEA ,Staring at Geoffrey in disbelief: You… you don't see anything strange about that? All those guards, they're all blind!

GEOFFREY ,Confused: Blind? To what?

SWANSEA ,Frustrated: To the strange things around your bosses! Guards have been so focused on the hunt, so cautious around vampires, that you've become blind to the unnatural things around you, even your own leaders! I don’t believe all my life I have always been the dreamer , the eccentric one… now I am voice of reason and I hate it!

ANOTHER FLASHBACK

Carl slammed his fist on the table, making Swansea jump: Swansea,You are the most infuriating member of the Brotherhood I've ever encountered! You've completely violated the protocols for exchange between the Priwen Guard and the Brotherhood! I'm sending you back with a glowing report... on your ability to cause chaos.

Swansea, speechless with fury, could only glare at Carl.

Carl continued, his voice surprisingly gentle:You've been a thorn in my side, a constant irritant. But you have a certain… determination. So I think you deserve to know the truth."

Swansea, bewildered, stammered: What truth?

Carl smiled, a chillingly sweet smile that made Swansea shiver:You were right, Swansea. I’m not human. I am a Nemrod."

Carl shown his fangs and Swansea, ecstatic, sputtered:You… you are? But… why are you telling me?"

Carl smirked and retained his fangs: Because no one else would believe you.

Swansea exploded: You son of a ...

Carl interrupted, his smile fading: Language, young man. It's not my fault your reputation precedes you. Everyone thinks you're obsessed with vampires because you want to sleep with them. Swansea, embarrassed: I don’t want to….

Carl cutting him off: And you're reckless! Utterly reckless! Learn some self-control if you ever want to succeed.

Swansea, deflated, slumped in his chair. He was right. He was probably going to be labelled a lunatic. He couldn't accuse the leader of Priwen Guard to be a vampire. But knowing the truth… it was a bittersweet victory. So years later Swansea stole Barker gun for his research about Nemdors. Unfortunately, Swansea couldn’t prove his theory yet but at least had he could spite Carl by stealing his dear gun.

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cool theory! mine is hypnos is keeping most of titans sleeping

Hades 2 prediction that probably isn't accurate but it could be. Because I would think it's cool:

Hypnos is fighting Epiales (his brother who's the god of nightmares) in his sleep. Hypnos gets a cool ass set of armour and giant ass weapon, and Epiales gets to ride a nightmare (mare, as in female horse, made of nightmares) and also have cool armour.

Why would Epiales be working for Kronos?

... I don't know <3

Maybe he's older than Hypnos and feels he should be the god of sleep. Beause nightmares are like. A part of sleep. And so he feels like the older sibling should be in charge of sleep, and the younger in charge of nightmares.

Idk I just want Hypnos to be doing something super cool and important in his sleep and to not just have Mel's mission to wake him up be a funny throwaway sidequest.

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The Vampyr universe is rife with mysteries, and for me, the most intriguing is Jacob Blackwood. Despite being absent from the final game, his presence lingers.

We know little about him. He is the progeny of Elisabeth Ashburn, created when she, then known as Blackwood, was infected by the Blood of Hate. He is implied to have connections to the Ascalon Club, but membership seems unlikely. His power is immense; he mesmerized Carina Billow, forcing her to consume rats for an illusion of immortality. She is aware of the deception but powerless to resist. He can even instruct Jonathan Reid to leave through her, likely from afar.

William Marshall, though dismissive of Jacob, is unreliable due to his delusional denial of his vampirism. Marshall deeply loved Elisabeth as his daughter but perhaps idealized her, overlooking her flaws.

The fandom often portrays Jacob as a lovesick stalker obsessed with Elisabeth, but I believe their relationship is far more complex and sinister. I suspect Elisabeth abused Jacob, who, in turn, became an abuser himself. His actions throughout the game suggest a game of cat-and-mouse with his former maker.

Elisabeth herself acknowledges that abandoning progeny is unusual, yet she did so. The game reveals her as a liar by omission, concealing crucial information. She is also a coward, fleeing London after discovering she is Patient Zero, abandoning her adoptive daughter Charlotte and her lover Jonathan.

Furthermore, she preyed on the dying in hospitals and manipulated Jonathan to eliminate a blackmailer who discovered her activities, demonstrating her manipulative nature. Killing the blackmailer disappoints her, but also spares them; the original plan of Elisabeth was to mesmerize them, despite the fact that Jonathan is a newborn vampire who could easily destroy their mind in trying. While the game portrays her attempts to redeem herself as commendable, I find them insufficient.

I believe Elisabeth forced vampirism upon Jacob and was an abusive maker, influenced by the Blood of Hate. She seemed indifferent to his well-being. Jacob adopted her last name, perhaps a sign of his subjugation. There is a painting with Elisabeth and Jacob in-game, where he is portrayed as gaunt and sickly, while Elisabeth looks healthy and fed, potentially highlighting his suffering under her influence.

The most damning evidence of Elisabeth's disregard for Jacob is her use of the Tears of Angel, the cure for the Blood of Hate. She prioritized her own salvation, neglecting the very being she had created. William Marshall, Elisabeth's maker, created the cure for her after infecting her, a true act of love. Elisabeth, despite mirroring this act with Jacob, only considered herself.

Elisabeth consistently attempts to bury her past. When Jonathan hints at Jacob's presence in London, she abruptly changes the subject. This secrecy stems from her desire to maintain the image of a refined English lady. If her abusive past were revealed, her carefully constructed persona would crumble.

Elisabeth also opposed Jonathan's turning of Geoffrey McCullum, a vampire hunter. This act, against Geoffrey's will, deeply troubled her, perhaps because she knew how dangerous it could be to create a progeny who hated their maker, much like she created her enemy in Jacob.

Elisabeth may have concealed her past as Blackwood from Swansea, her doctor who was helping to control her bloodthirst. Swansea, while too engaged in both science and the occult, would likely have hesitated to experiment with her blood if he knew its origins. This secrecy serves Elisabeth's self-preservation, as both the Brotherhood and the Priwen would likely react negatively to her past actions.

Jacob's stalking of Elisabeth and her loved ones is not driven by love, but by a desire for vengeance. Notably, he does not seek retribution for Elisabeth's death in the game, despite Jonathan Reid's vulnerability as a newborn vampire.

Carina Billow's torture serves a different purpose: a warning to those who delve into the secrets of the Ascalon Club. It is also a warning to Elisabeth, as Carina is a friend of Charlotte. This torture may even be a reflection of the abuse Elisabeth inflicted upon Jacob.

Jacob likely despises Carina Billow due to her romantic view of vampirism and her willingness to abandon her humanity. If he was forcibly turned into a vampire, he would undoubtedly share this disdain.

A future game featuring a turned Geoffrey McCullum, who was turned by Jonathan against his will because Jonathan saw it as a fixed punishment for Geoffrey hunting him down, as the protagonist could explore these dark undercurrents. It could depict Geoffrey forging an alliance with Jacob to seek revenge on both Elisabeth and Jonathan, highlighting the enduring consequences of the past.

I know it sounds like I don't like Elisabeth. I do, but I don't think she is just a victim, and her actions are cuddled by the narrative. For example, embracing dying patients on Jonathan's behalf is presented as a corrupt act, while Elisabeth's similar actions are not. I believe Elisabeth feels bad for what she had done to Jacob but redeption is about to face own sins,which we know she doesn't do like she kills herself in bad endings.

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Thank you so much! but the way there are other reaction on archive!

https://archiveofourown.org/works/60457726/chapters/154743124#workskin

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Reaction to Penelope who sides with Titans.

I like to write a fic one day, but these are some reaction that doesn't follow an order. For example Mel is some it is more compassionate other would kill penelope if she got possibiliy.

First meeting between Penelope and Mel is dream reality, where Penelope is using fates loom to unwearing destinity. She went with name of nobody.

Mel: Nodoby, did you do something to Circe?

Nobody: Who, me? I just reveal her true colours.

Mel: You turned her in donkey.

Nodoby: Ah.

Penelope/ Deception weaver. After some fighting after Mel has figured out Nobody’s identity.

Penelope: Revenge? In part you are right young lady ,but it isn’t only reason.

We, mortals are able to hurt ourselves but also to fight back our abusers.

But this isn't possible with Gods.

Helene,Clytemnestra , Picus, Medusa, Scylla, Pandora, all Troy ... my husband... we cannot defend ourselves from scheme and petty reasons of immortals.

And there are people like me who can only watch our beloveds getting destroyed.

Being a mere watcher, as peril close in on those he hold dear. The despair and terror of being helpless. Compared to slaying the gods is more agonising.

Penelope: I knew your brother, such kind man, I had the honour to be her friend and making first offer to him as God.

Melinoe: I thought you hate all gods.

Penelope: He was different; caring but determined as life itself … he was god of mortals, he would have a great leader…

Melinoe: Leader? What are you talking?

Penelope: Chronos hasn’t freed himself, and satyrs aren’t so smart. Do you wonder how hecate all hades house wasn’t prepared by Chronos’ evasion despite this kingdom is prison for titans.

There is traitor, a special one who take benefit of fall of house.

Keep your friends and family closer and traitors would show up.

Penelope: When I see you it hurts, because I don’t see the god would care of mortal but prideful Olympic.

Your brother would be ashamed of you.

Medea: So the new witch who turns Circe in fearful donkey is queen Penelope. I like her style and how she defends what is her.

Aren't you talking of Odysseus? They have split up! He told himself; he cheated on her and they are amicable.

Medea: No witch with self-respect would spare a cheater. She is not like begging for him back and shaming the evil temptress.

She revenged her husband.

Melinoe: But...

Medea, sadly: They both fought with blood and sweat for their marriage, no like me who was the only trying to save a falling ship.

Nemesis: I don't get why you are so angry for Circe. Queen Penelope has just make retribution.

Melinoe: First she deceived her by faking friendship for learning her magic arts who Hecate bans to share to outside.

Nemesis: That’s Circe's problem.

Melinoe, more annoyed: Then Penelope turned Circe in a donkey and making her been chased by dogs.

Nemesis: It is something witches usually do. The queen of Ithaca is a witch now, why is she not allowed?

Melinoe: First she stole our arts, second she used against a fellow witch.

Nemesis: I don't believe witches has never been fighting each other. You are angry because she gives a perfect retribution.

Mel: Why did you think that fake witch has given just retribution.

Nemesis: Circe has abused of her power for years turning rivals in monsters, people who reject her in animals, and unlucky sailors in cattle. They have to feel helpless, trapped in cage that was their new bodies.

The weaver by making Circe a prey that was chased by predators was only way she could understand her actions.

Mel: Despite Circe came back in her truth form she is still so scared and anxious ...

Nemesis: Like people she hurt. That is retribution.

Mel: I have some question on Penelope, why nobody mentions it a capable warrior. I hate to admit but she is giving me problems when we face in dream reality.

Odysseus: She is a Spartan princess, here women learn to use weapons. Her favourite weapon is dagger.

Mel looks Odysseus ‘ dagger in his hard but decided to leave for moment.

Melinoe: So why didn't she kill her suitors, it would be easy than her weaving trick.

Od: Despite her capacity she didn't have an army, I brought it with me to Troy, second she wasn't allowed

to act that way I was. So she had to keep everyone calm or it would end in bloodbath for everybody.

Melinoe: But she was queen!

Odysseus: Mortal world isn't nice with women, goddess.

Scylla: Oh my you are here. We are preparing for our next song:

Deception weaver! For beautiful, amazing and talented commander of Chronos.

Scylla brushing: Penelope who has given taste of her medicine to Circe. And she loves our songs.

After defending Scylla or losing to her: I don't know if sharing to Od, him and Penelope has same taste in music, or the fact Scylla has crush on her.

After some fighting with Prometheus and Penelope.

Od: So, can I ask you a favour, goddess.

Mel: Yes tell me.

Od: Based on my report and gossips

Mel, confused: Gossips?

Od: the most trusted commanders, Prometheus and Deception weaver look very close. Is there something romantic going on?

Mel: OD?! Are you asking for strategy or...

OD giving a nervous laugh: No! No! Me jealous?! I mean we aren’t together anymore.

Mel: I have said nothing.

Od more nervous not listening: Or course she has moved on and she can have someone better, but competing with hero of humanity...

Mel decided to leave: I think they just really respect each other, I would ask them next time, if they aren't too busy to kill me.

Mel: are you and titan close.

Penelope: I don't think I have to answer this question.

Penelope under her breath: That idiot!

Mel: Penelope has bow, that resembled the one described by poem.

Od: Yes it is.

Mel: Well, I always think you haven't just lost your bow like you told me when I was child, so how it happened.

Od: The day when she asked me to join the Titans... the day I lost her she left one of her dagger, she asked to give it back, face to face if i change my mind, so I gave my bow with the same meaning.

MeL: But no ones of you can give up your stand.

Od: Yeah, I lost the count of years of that day.

"Being a mere watcher, as peril close in on those he hold dear. The despair and terror of being helpless. Compared to slaying the gods is more agonising."

this sentence is from mango one within the vilainess read it!

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Reading about Carl Eldritch and Geoffrey McCullum as abusive relanship in fanfiction is a little sad. Yes, from the limited information we have, Mr. Eldritch doesn't sound like someone you'd want around if you were a vampire; he seems extremely zealous and brutal.

However, it doesn't sound to me like he was abusive to Geoffrey. The biggest proof is how much confidence Geoffrey possesses. Usually, people who grow up in abusive situations have low self-esteem, which is clearly not the case for Geoffrey.

That doesn't mean Carl was the perfect parent. I think they still had a complex relationship, a blend of mentor-pupil and father-son. I think Carl is like Hecate from Hades II: they love their pupil like a child but feel guilty for turning them into a child soldier. We don't know why Carl decided to adopt Geoffrey, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was more than just pity. I also believe Carl wasn't human but a Nimrod.

There are two possibilities: Arthur's blood, or he was already an old Nimrod. I'm more inclined towards the second one, as Carl doesn't have a background like Kendall Stoneor Geoffrey.

However, his writing showed his total hatred for vampires, which is characteristic of a Nimrod—a vampire who preys on other vampires while hiding its identity. There are two other curious points that make me believe Carl was a Nimrod:

His last name, Eldritch, which means "strange or unnatural, especially in a way that inspires fear."

His gun, "Baker," is part of the Hunter DLC. The other weapon, "Dragonbane," used to belong to a vampire who hunted other vampires. I wouldn't be surprised if Carl was one of King Arthur's knights. All these theories bring an interesting storyline for Geoffrey, especially if he was turned. Imagine Geoffrey feeling like he failed Carl, then finding out that the man who took care of him was a leech? He probably didn't die, but he had to abandon Geoffrey and Priwer. The rage, resentment, confusion—yes, full drama!

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I think the queen shares our vision!

The fandom when Lloyd

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I don't think arthur blood serum would turn Mccullem in vampire except if Jonathan turns him because jonathan blood destabilizes the serum because he is from same lineage of arthur. But mccullem would end to belong to arthur was asleeping but mccullem turning awaked him, like i got a child now, how?

But i think the serum still very dangerous probaly mortal and maybe Kendall Stone had good motivations don't trust the brotherhood. I mean Kenstall was high place in it so there shoub be a time he believes in knowledge and he should know the truth nature of serum. But he didn't only steal blood of vampire who he should hate with all himself but destroying all info possible. These actions are strange as fanatic or scholar, we don't if carl was part of brotherhood too, but if he was same. I believe brotherhood isn't so innocent and for getting their knolodge they did horrible staff or corropt actions. I think seeing the brotherddod as corropt and greed society would be interesting.

I think swanea was trying to recreate the same process of arthur serum but he failed because he used the wrong blood.

But I think elisabeth needs some accontobily of her action too why she did informe him about she was a victim of blood of hate. You can tell but she thought she was cured, yes but when we are talking something so grave you always say to your doctor your past history. I like elisabeth but she run away from her conseguences of her past, seeing she left jacob alives who coul infect someone

Vampyr: The Elixir Theory

I suspect we would have received a more complete explanation of this in the game, if the hyped-up Ascalon vs. Priwen vs. Brotherhood conflict had actually culminated in anything more than empty threats and bursts of turf war violence

but one element I continually see critiqued by fandom (and rightfully so!) is the exact mechanical function of vampire blood. the mechanics of Progeny-making are convoluted enough on their own, so I’ll leave them for another post—but I’d like to focus on two specific examples of off-label uses for vampire blood (major plot spoilers follow):

namely, Geoffrey drinking King Arthur’s blood, and Edgar administering Lady Ashbury’s blood to Harriet.

Continua a leggere

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I would add Geoffrey has seen only the worst in vampires. Exception are rare, seeing swansea surrends almost immediatly to his thirst when you know he can aleast access to blood-bag oe eating mouse as pacifist!Jonathan.

About Carl Eldritch we don't have real info outside of brotherhood, vampires that gives as a picture of fanatic. I don't mean he wasn't but we don't know why his hate was so strong and like Kendall Stone used to burn info,despite probabily they used to be part of brotherhood so that must be a time where they believe in knowlogde.

Kendall and Carl give me impression they saw what happened if knowlogde falls in wrong hards, seeing Swansea( my headcanon is brotherhood isn't so neutral/good but they are more near to turn in Bloodborn church with time).

I like thinking relanship between Carl and geoffrey was complicated, I feel like carl was hecate from hades 2. Both raised their pupils as weapon for biggest goal, Hecate/Carl feel bad about but they don't have choices because they know their pupils must face the worst. So they cannot accept they love their pupils as parent beause how they raised them.

I bet all my money if there would be a vampy two geoffery would face jack balckhood who is also cause of geoffery family tragedy, for that carl was very severe with him and working expecially of mental force of geoffery.

I read a lot comments of beople who turn geoffery in vampire being dissappointed because he isn't not mess cry but he is still to fight. That I think is mix of geoffery personality but aslo carl teaching.

PS: I have crazy theory carl was Nemrod who served king arthur, for that the guard workships him, and Geoffery is immune to Mesmerism, beacuse mesemerism from nemrod is strongger of enok(I mean nemorod hunt vampires) and geoffey was trained against it ( no so much he could find the truth)

When Geoffrey McCullum is written out as a Carl fanatic in fics that is only cruel to vampires because of Carl's teachings, I feel like it's a lazy writing or inaccurate fleshing out of his character. When Jonathan talked to him in the graveyard, Geoffrey recalled more about what happened to his family than his history with the former vampire hunter leader. It should suffice to say that his convictions about vampires are his own and they're strengthened by what happened to his family. He thinks of vampires as monsters the way we would think of zombies from movies nowadays. When they turn, they're not themselves anymore. They are beasts who will always kill because that's their nature. If you don't kill a vampire/zombie just because they used to be your family, you will be killed next and there's no way to save other people like that. Geoffrey has to convince himself that vampires don't have the human choice because if he does, that means his father had the choice to kill his mother and to turn his brother and would have done so whether he was vampire or not. He would have to think about Ian too and how his brother could have a choice not to become like other vampires. But if vampires are just monsters like zombies are then he can respect his family while condemning vampires. Geoffrey's humanity makes him look at vampires as beasts because otherwise, he has to look at his own dead family as monsters instead of victims turned monsters that need to be stopped. Geoffrey's trauma and relationship to his past family is not because of Carl's teachings and it's important to his characterization that he has his own reasons to be his own person even if it is not always the right belief rather than just following the man that the fandom likes to blame.

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This is a picture of a noname soldier and Adam, welcoming her to the Exorcists.

It's difficult to resist to Adam, who doing psychotherapy sessions with the souls of victims. It's so amazing and sweet. Yes, this is not a literal illustration for the fanfic "If Hell is forever...." from @faberown, but I wanted to draw this scene exactly that.

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Reaction to Penelope who sides with Titans.

I like to write a fic one day, but these are some reaction that doesn't follow an order. For example Mel is some it is more compassionate other would kill penelope if she got possibiliy.

First meeting between Penelope and Mel is dream reality, where Penelope is using fates loom to unwearing destinity. She went with name of nobody.

Mel: Nodoby, did you do something to Circe?

Nobody: Who, me? I just reveal her true colours.

Mel: You turned her in donkey.

Nodoby: Ah.

Penelope/ Deception weaver. After some fighting after Mel has figured out Nobody’s identity.

Penelope: Revenge? In part you are right young lady ,but it isn’t only reason.

We, mortals are able to hurt ourselves but also to fight back our abusers.

But this isn't possible with Gods.

Helene,Clytemnestra , Picus, Medusa, Scylla, Pandora, all Troy ... my husband... we cannot defend ourselves from scheme and petty reasons of immortals.

And there are people like me who can only watch our beloveds getting destroyed.

Being a mere watcher, as peril close in on those he hold dear. The despair and terror of being helpless. Compared to slaying the gods is more agonising.

Penelope: I knew your brother, such kind man, I had the honour to be her friend and making first offer to him as God.

Melinoe: I thought you hate all gods.

Penelope: He was different; caring but determined as life itself … he was god of mortals, he would have a great leader…

Melinoe: Leader? What are you talking?

Penelope: Chronos hasn’t freed himself, and satyrs aren’t so smart. Do you wonder how hecate all hades house wasn’t prepared by Chronos’ evasion despite this kingdom is prison for titans.

There is traitor, a special one who take benefit of fall of house.

Keep your friends and family closer and traitors would show up.

Penelope: When I see you it hurts, because I don’t see the god would care of mortal but prideful Olympic.

Your brother would be ashamed of you.

Medea: So the new witch who turns Circe in fearful donkey is queen Penelope. I like her style and how she defends what is her.

Aren't you talking of Odysseus? They have split up! He told himself; he cheated on her and they are amicable.

Medea: No witch with self-respect would spare a cheater. She is not like begging for him back and shaming the evil temptress.

She revenged her husband.

Melinoe: But...

Medea, sadly: They both fought with blood and sweat for their marriage, no like me who was the only trying to save a falling ship.

Nemesis: I don't get why you are so angry for Circe. Queen Penelope has just make retribution.

Melinoe: First she deceived her by faking friendship for learning her magic arts who Hecate bans to share to outside.

Nemesis: That’s Circe's problem.

Melinoe, more annoyed: Then Penelope turned Circe in a donkey and making her been chased by dogs.

Nemesis: It is something witches usually do. The queen of Ithaca is a witch now, why is she not allowed?

Melinoe: First she stole our arts, second she used against a fellow witch.

Nemesis: I don't believe witches has never been fighting each other. You are angry because she gives a perfect retribution.

Mel: Why did you think that fake witch has given just retribution.

Nemesis: Circe has abused of her power for years turning rivals in monsters, people who reject her in animals, and unlucky sailors in cattle. They have to feel helpless, trapped in cage that was their new bodies.

The weaver by making Circe a prey that was chased by predators was only way she could understand her actions.

Mel: Despite Circe came back in her truth form she is still so scared and anxious ...

Nemesis: Like people she hurt. That is retribution.

Mel: I have some question on Penelope, why nobody mentions it a capable warrior. I hate to admit but she is giving me problems when we face in dream reality.

Odysseus: She is a Spartan princess, here women learn to use weapons. Her favourite weapon is dagger.

Mel looks Odysseus ‘ dagger in his hard but decided to leave for moment.

Melinoe: So why didn't she kill her suitors, it would be easy than her weaving trick.

Od: Despite her capacity she didn't have an army, I brought it with me to Troy, second she wasn't allowed

to act that way I was. So she had to keep everyone calm or it would end in bloodbath for everybody.

Melinoe: But she was queen!

Odysseus: Mortal world isn't nice with women, goddess.

Scylla: Oh my you are here. We are preparing for our next song:

Deception weaver! For beautiful, amazing and talented commander of Chronos.

Scylla brushing: Penelope who has given taste of her medicine to Circe. And she loves our songs.

After defending Scylla or losing to her: I don't know if sharing to Od, him and Penelope has same taste in music, or the fact Scylla has crush on her.

After some fighting with Prometheus and Penelope.

Od: So, can I ask you a favour, goddess.

Mel: Yes tell me.

Od: Based on my report and gossips

Mel, confused: Gossips?

Od: the most trusted commanders, Prometheus and Deception weaver look very close. Is there something romantic going on?

Mel: OD?! Are you asking for strategy or...

OD giving a nervous laugh: No! No! Me jealous?! I mean we aren’t together anymore.

Mel: I have said nothing.

Od more nervous not listening: Or course she has moved on and she can have someone better, but competing with hero of humanity...

Mel decided to leave: I think they just really respect each other, I would ask them next time, if they aren't too busy to kill me.

Mel: are you and titan close.

Penelope: I don't think I have to answer this question.

Penelope under her breath: That idiot!

Mel: Penelope has bow, that resembled the one described by poem.

Od: Yes it is.

Mel: Well, I always think you haven't just lost your bow like you told me when I was child, so how it happened.

Od: The day when she asked me to join the Titans... the day I lost her she left one of her dagger, she asked to give it back, face to face if i change my mind, so I gave my bow with the same meaning.

MeL: But no ones of you can give up your stand.

Od: Yeah, I lost the count of years of that day.

"Being a mere watcher, as peril close in on those he hold dear. The despair and terror of being helpless. Compared to slaying the gods is more agonising."

this sentence is from mango one within the vilainess read it!