#season 3 supercorp my beloved

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20 Questions Game

Tagged by @fazedlight 💕 thank you for the enrichment

1. How many works do you have on AO3?

6 but 3 of them are currently hidden :')

2. Total AO3 word count

129,991. Bout to be 136,357! :D

3. Fandoms you write for

Supercorp my beloved

4. Top 5 fics by kudos -

Citrus, Where the River Runs, Smoke & Honey, Queen of the Damned, and Power Is My Love

5. Do you respond to comments?

Hell yeah! I'm not just shooting art into the void, I'm trying to share in the human experience here

6. Fic w/ Angstiest Ending -

I have One fic WIP that ends in angst (I'm a sucker for a well-earned happy ending) and it isn't even that angsty. If I post it, you'll know which one it is via. the tags I'm sure

7. Happiest ending? -

Probably Citrus. That one is a straight up feel good fic.

8. Do you get hate on fics?

Not regularly.

9. Do you write smut/what kind?

Yes. It has changed a lot since I started though. Most of it is sort of notes on my journey though my sexuality, and that shit shifts like the seasons.

10. Do you write crossovers?

Can't say I have!

11. Ever had a fic stolen?

Who knows. Hope people liked it if so :')

12. Ever had a fic translated?

No but that would be cool as hell :0

13. Ever cowritten a fic?

LMAO A warriorcats fic once in my youth

14. Favorite ship?

Currently? Supercorp. The classics still live on in my heart tho

15. A wip you want to finish but doubt you ever will?

In The Pines - a scary lil story about SC in the forest that will in No Way be finished in time for the Halloween festivities.

16. Writing strengths?

Descriptions of visuals

17. Writing weaknesses?

Character diversity and dialogue : ' ) which are two pretty big parts of a story I R E A L I Z E

18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in a different language?

I think I could write a passable first graders dialogue in Spanish. The only "language" I write into my stories right now is Kryptonian cause I'm not out here to offend people like that

19. First Fandom you wrote for?

W...arrior cats...

20. Favorite fic you've ever written?

Gotta be Queen Of The Damned. It's real dear to my heart rn even though finishing it is like eating a salad of nails

Tags if yall want to participate! :] @pan-de-queer @inkedroplets and I honestly can't remember who else writes that I follow that has also not already been tagged in this so any of yall see this and want to play please do

[searidings]

Jaw-El

KARA JAW-EL

[c--and--b]

Becca, also with other beloved writers & artists, be carrying the back of the supercorp fandom hahaha 🤣 side note: I didn't know you're one of those who got sucked in despite never watching beyond sg clips 😂 same man, same

oh no i have actually seen up to like mid season 5 (though admittedly ive skipped sections of 3 and 4) but im just back on my bullshit of not being caught up. we’ll see how it ends and then decide.

thank you for coming back to put some respect on everyone else’s name - legend behaviour

[morningsound15]

No pressure, but is there any chance you’d bless as with a bit of Supercorp fic yourself? 👀

ooooo friend

OH MY FRIEND

you would not BELIEVE what i’ve been writing you would not BELIEVE what i have in store for you...... i’ve been working on a monster piece for the last few months it’s currently at 20k words and only like 3/5 written and i’m TRYING to be good and write the whole thing before i post any of it because i’m TRYING to keep my word about updates but u know who knows now that season 5 has started maybe i’ll be inspired

(here’s a little sneak peak)

(angst warning incoming)

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it’s the official policy of the affiliated news agencies in and around national city not to publish images of the dead. not when they’re just bodies. the dying, of course, are fair game — the public loves consuming tragedy from the safety of their own lives, after all. but they don’t publish pictures of bodies.

they don’t use a picture of her body. that doesn’t stop the images of her corpse from spreading widely on the internet, broken and bloody and sprawled on the fractured pavement. but the national news media never pick them up. (lena has a team of people working night and day, desperately trying to scrub the images off the face of the earth, but they reappear. they continue to reappear. like a hydra — cut off the head and 2 more grow back in its place. they’re always being posted and reposted, shared and disseminated. by mourners, or else by the smug, victorious mob of virulent hate groups cheering the death of one of earth’s mightiest heroes. innocently, naively, viciously. her team is never fast enough to catch all of them.)

instead: full-cover spreads of onlookers; crowds of weeping mourners; humans. candlelight vigils. signs of red and blue, her sigil emblazoned proudly on thousands of chests. tiny girls in their mothers’ arms, eyes wide with tears, clutching tight. school children and grim-faced politicians and superman, his expression dark and made of stone, with his shoulders held back as they lower her casket into the ground.

SUPERGIRL GONE; A NATION IN MOURNING

that’s the headline on sunday morning. front page, bold print, all caps. it’s the headline on every paper, every magazine, every website. the front page of google blacks out completely as a show of respect, of solidarity. millions of profile pictures across assorted social media platforms adopt filters, the recognizable symbol of a fallen hero pasted like some cheap border around unrelated photographs. the hashtag #thankyousupergirl trends for five days.

and, deep in the middle of the national city times, on page 8c, carefully-worded in small print with a small but dignified portrait alongside:

CatCo Reporter Kara Danvers died on Saturday, May 4th, 2019. Beloved daughter of Eliza Danvers and the late Jeremiah Danvers, sister of Alexandra Danvers and friend to all, Kara passed away at 27 years-old. In her short career at CatCo Worldwide Media, she garnered an impressive resume and a stellar reputation. Her landmark reporting on the Alien Amnesty Movement earned her commendations from Mayor Gloria Henderson as well as—

well. there’s no need to reiterate. she already knows what it says.

[coherently-screaming]

My only worry for Supercorp.

I’ve been watching season 2 of Supergirl again and dreaming, praying for Lena to be revealed canonically gay in season 3. And for Supercorp to be in a relationship of sorts. BECAUSE RAO, DO I SHIP IT. But I’ve had serious flashbacks to Clexa. Like, hell Lena’s first scene, when she looks up at Clark and confronts him about her last name… I saw Lexa meeting Clarke for the first time, twirling her beloved knife. When Lena talked about Lex… I had a flash of Lexa talking about Costia. When Kara confronted Lena about Lillian running Cadmus, I thought I was watching Clarke beg Lexa not to fight Roan. And there are so many other examples that I’ll save for another post…

But I remember what happened when Clexa became canon… and my heart fucking shattered. I don’t want that to happen again with Lena and Supercorp. The blonde hero loses their powerful, leader, brunette girlfriend tragically. And, personally, I don’t think the CW has learned their lesson. Because they keep making the same mistakes! Over and over. And I’m fucking scared if Supercorp becomes canon, all I’ll see is Lena being used as Kara's weakness or Lena taking a kryptonite bullet or knife for Kara. BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT THE STUPID GIRL WOULD DO! I’m honestly happier with fanfiction and gay undertone and it being insisted that “they’re juST FRIENDS” -Jeremy Jordan 2k17.- rather then deal with the heartbreak I felt for Lexa all over again… I can’t do that again. And I WON’T do that again.

So if Supercorp stays a femslash ship and it saves Lena’s life, And it saves the heartbreak… I think I would some way be able to live with that…

Rao forbid… if they kill off Lena at all… I’ll fucking riot.

[pasta-abomination]

Well, Supergirl, it’s been fun.

When I first heard of the show last year, it was this—maybe a little cheesy, but that’s comics—fun show with a focus on relationships between women of all different types, a show about a woman growing up and coming into her own and finding her place in the world. And, of course, Kara and Alex. The sisterhood at the heart of the show. Of course there were some things that could’ve been done better—but it became clearer and clearer that it was an honest effort.

I hope you know how much of a leap of faith it took to follow Supergirl to the CW, as a queer woman. I hope you know that that’s—in my entirely unprofessional opinion—an indicator of how much good faith this show had. This show literally got the CW’s foot in the door with a demographic that it had all but completely alienated by this time last year.

I think it’s safe to say you’ve used that up.

I believe that representation matters. But it doesn’t begin and end with Sanvers. And this season I have watched:

1. A black man and a beloved DC character sidelined as a love interest with no warning, no real explanation, and no further treatment of it—now, as we know, to pair off Kara with the frat-boy reincarnation of Lar Gand 
 2. Kara’s entire arc this season (both Danvers sisters, actually) be reduced to her love interest. Jeremiah who? 
 3. The eighty millionth regurgitation of the “love of a good woman” trope. I don’t need to go into why this is inappropriate on so many levels in a supposedly feminist show that’s marketed towards young women and girls (but I will anyways). 
 4. Characterization and continuity thrown out the window in order to make Mon-El look good and drive the plot. 

 For Jeremiah’s deception to fool everyone but Mon-El, not only do we have to assume that it never occurred to trained government operatives that he could be a plant, we also have to believe that a) no one examined him at the DEO, b) if they did, no one knows the difference between a robotic arm and a human one, and c) we have to forget that Hank/J’onn is a literal mind reader. 

 You can only excuse so much before it starts to look like you’re tearing down your title character and your actual core ensemble in order to make a character relevant to the plot.
 5. Kara repeatedly insist that she doesn’t like Mon-El, she doesn’t want to be around him—only to have him harass her until she dates him (or forgives him). 
 6. Alex “Come near my family and I will end you” Danvers push her sister repeatedly at a man who Kara has openly expressed dislike for multiple times; who, once they’re dating, disrespects and lies to her repeatedly. She excuses his behavior on more than one occasion. (Are we sure they haven’t all been replaced with White Martians?) 
 7. Watch Kara be put in a position (sometimes transparently contrived, as in “Homecoming”) where she either has to apologize to Mon-El because he’s been justified by the narrative, or, for some unknown reason (usually prodding from another character, like Alex or the Music Meister), decides to forgive him. Over and over and over again. 
 8. An actual episode, supposedly focused on the Danvers family, where Mon-El has more screen time than the actual lead and drives a plot he isn’t even relevant to.

This show was, nominally, about Kara Danvers. Her as a whole person; trauma, family, grief, rage, jealousy—and her deep desire in spite of what she’d been through to give back to her adoptive home and do the right thing. It was about her professional life, trying to make her way in the world and working for the kind of woman that could help her learn how to do those things. It was about her assumptions being challenged—not narratively bludgeoned—and her learning. But most of all, it was about her becoming her own person. A whole person.

That show is gone. Her single main arc this season as a character is rehabilitating the galaxy’s most unrepentant frat boy by… arguing with him a lot and constantly being pushed to a point where she’s ready to break up with him, apparently. People are so quick to say “But he’s learning!”; “But Kara’s a stick-in-the-mud!”; “She’s prejudiced too!” (I’m pretty sure you call “prejudice” against a shameless misogynist “standards”, but what do I know, I’m gay). They’re missing the point. And that is:

Kara’s story now revolves around Mon-El.

Arguments and evenings with him have entirely replaced “sister nights” at the end of the episodes. His secrets, his disrespect, his actions, are now driving her development as a character. She mostly only reacts to events outside of that, like another threat from Cadmus, or rescuing Lena Luthor, or whatever’s happening with Jeremiah—but her stance towards those events is reactive.

In other words, Kara no longer drives her own story.

And Kara has lost her job at CatCo. That job that, last year, “kept her connected” to the people she was trying to serve? Disappeared with a whimper after a similarly half-assed treatment to the search for Jeremiah. Kara no longer has a professional life.

But okay. I’m gay; clearly I don’t understand what it’s like to be heterosexual, or in a relationship, and I’m obviously only in this for the Supercorp, right? I should just stay in my lane. I have Sanvers! What else could I possibly want?

Funny you should ask.

Flip side of Alex’s story—I’ve lived in queer communities. I’ve watched friends come out. Women who thought they were straight.

And I watched them struggle with the things they’ve been taught about relationships. What they should want and what’s acceptable from a partner. What love looks like, on that micro, interpersonal level. Things that are, in many ways, inextricably intertwined with gender, in our culture.

Mon-El is the closest thing I can think of to an embodiment of all those things that they struggle to unlearn. Mon-El—and stories like this one—are exactly how they learned those things.

Let me remind you, in case you’ve forgotten, that while the queer lady fanbase for shows tends to have a much wider age range, this show is primarily directed at young women and girls.

A show that’s marketed as “female-centric” has in fact become a show about a woman fixing a man—a man who, incidentally, doesn’t want to be fixed. He just wants to keep banging her.

And these girls are going to grow up and become women—straight or not—who will go out into the world thinking that this is normal. That this is acceptable—to be lied to repeatedly, to have your requests for privacy disregarded, your family spoken to rudely and your parents treated with hostility and suspicion, to have your house broken into, be accused of sleeping with someone by a jealous not-boyfriend, to shoulder the entire emotional weight of making the relationship work by forgiving him over and over and over again—

—Because in the end, the story goes, that will make him (them) better.

The reality is, so often, that it doesn’t. That a person will happily continue taking advantage of someone’s good faith if they think they can get away with it. That jealous behavior like Mon-El exhibits often escalates into physical violence. That a dude who seemingly doesn’t care is often exactly what he seems. Someone who doesn’t want to change will not change, no matter how “much” you love them.

That you owe it to that person to stay with them and pour all your effort into a relationship; that sure, you “deserve better” than to be lied to—But you’re still a terrible person if you don’t give them another chance.

Compared with a relationship that only gets five minutes of screen time most episodes, it feels a little bit like I’m expected to be happy with what I’m offered as a member of the queer female demographic and ignore the utterly cringe-worthy toxicity of the Kara/Mon-El relationship, the abrupt and kinda racist way James was removed from the field, the terrible narrative choices, the plot holes so big you could lose Fort Rozz in them, and, oh yeah—that Supergirl is no longer Kara’s story. It’s the story of Mon-El’s rehabilitation.

I can’t celebrate the representation I’ve wanted for fifteen years when it means I have to ignore the destructive messages the rest of this show is pushing.

And, kinda like a car crash, it’s becoming increasingly clear that whoever is driving this story is not letting off the gas. I don’t know why. But I can see it coming, so I’m bailing.

I want to support positive queer representation. I want to support shows about women, and their stories—all of them. It’s what made me willing to take a risk on this show after the move was announced.

But Supergirl is no longer that story. And damn, I wish it were different. But I recognize the signs. And I’m gonna be spending my Monday evenings watching something else. Something I can enjoy without feeling like I’m throwing anyone who’s not me under the bus. Hanging on and waiting for a change that’s never gonna come.

[singereden]

Attention Clexa Fandom!

Dear all of Clexa fandom,

I nearby have a needs to implore you for your help.

As you know, our two fandoms will soon be coming head to head on the Zimbio poll, which is great because both Clexa and Supercorp deserve to be there and to win (as do all the other ships too).

However, as the stupid fates would have it, there can, unfortunately, be only one winner… And I’m kinda trying to gather enough guts to ask you guys to help us win.

I know this will sound silly to you, because I know how much you love Clexa (heck, *I* myself love Clexa too! For being as iconic and game-changing as it has been for *all* of the fandoms and queer people wanting to see themselves positively represented on tv… Plus I do genuinely ship the Clexa babies… though I chose to stop watching the 100 after Lexa’s death), but just before you dismiss this entirely, just hear me out. 



It is important for you too.

Some of you might know about what’s been going on on Supergirl and some of you may not. Basically, to sum up, the Supergirl staff were very wonderful in that they wanted to explore the journey of a beautiful character, Alex Danvers, Supergirl’s sister, as a gay person, to give her a girlfriend and let us watch their journey unfold. Their story started off very strong, even if recently they have been getting less screen-time. More than that, Supergirl as a show in general has been a very positive game-changer too, especially in season 1, where the message of being strong, independent, self-reliant and ambitious, especially as a woman, was proven to be central to the drive of the main character and the narrative. Since the beginning of the second half of season 2, however, this message was slowly but surely beginning to turn more and more warped. I actually don’t know what the writers are thinking right now but basically, our heroic, exemplary Supergirl, Kara Danvers, has become reduced to someone who not only tolerates someone (her boyfriend) that insults her, puts her down, ignores her boundaries and requests, and defies her repeatedly, but to someone who would actually date a person like that. I think we can all agree that this is a wrong and very damaging message to send to the viewers, many who are teenagers, and many who are little girls and boys, and impressionable to such a message. And now, on top of all that, after Kara got fired from her job, which she explicitly said she loved and which we have seen her work SO damn hard for, she concedes that maybe being a superhero and having her (emotionally abusive?) boyfriend will be enough. It’s come to a point where I no longer recognise my favourite character and my favourite tv show.

The thing is, I can easily stop watching (ok, maybe not easily, it’ll be a fricken addiction to break!) but I know that other viewers, especially all the younger, more vulnerable ones, will probably just keep going. And the reason I know that is because at their age, without question, I would be one of them. As a teen and a young adult, I would literally swallow the sickly-sweet trope of a flawed, broken person needing love from a forgiving girl in order to change and become a better person. I subconsciously soaked this message in and then applied it to my own life as I got older, with, unfortunately but not surprisingly, dire repercussions, from which, I have to admit, I’m still recovering. I’m sure that many of you will be able to relate to this. And I’m sure that many of you will know just how wrong and harmful this message is. Especially coming from a show that has built its entire fan-base by portraying a strong, positive role-model for girls and women.

The one good thing that has come out of all of this is another character on Supergirl: Lena Luthor. From the beginning, because of her last name and its connotations, Lena has been portrayed as a possible suspect and villain. The thing is though, she has proven herself time and time again to be better than that, to be a force for good, to be a firm ally to both Kara and Supergirl, and has even taken it upon herself to rebrand her brother’s company and turn it into something positive to make up for all the damage that Lex Luthor had done in the past. She had even gone directly against her own mother when the woman had turned out to be deranged and aligned with Lex’s ideals. Therefore, on the show, Lena Luthor has been portrayed as a prime example of what an independent, ambitious, strong woman is. But what was even more wonderful (and surprising) to watch was the incredible positive dynamic that has developed between Lena and our very own Kara Danvers/Supergirl.

I can honestly say that this dynamic was the greatest surprise to come out of Supergirl season 2, because while some expected Alex to come out as gay, nobody foresaw a Luthor and a Super working together like this. And WOW do they work well together! I mean… Just on every level! On a professional level, the two women are so respectful and supportive of one another. On a personal level, they are so sweet and wonderful to each other. The respect between the two of them is every bit as worthy of Clarke and Lexa’s, because they too, are women powerful in their own right, working together for the benefit of all. And I think if you guys had seen them (and I’m sure most of you have anyway :p), you’d be proud of them and you’d want to see more of them just being awesome together. The only difference between Clexa and Supercorp is that one is a canonical ship and the other is not. Yet. If ever. And the thing is, they so easily could be because their chemistry is off . the . charts . I mean… I could go on for ages here but to spare you the reading time, just look them up on youtube.

If they got together, the internet would explode. They would literally be Korrasami 2.0, except 3D. And they would rule so hard, and it would be the most beautiful thing ever! (Besides Clexa, ofc.)

Unfortunately, because the writers have already presented Supergirl’s sister as gay, the chances of Supercorp actually turning canon dropped significantly. I mean, how many mainstream shows do you know of where there is more than one gay couple included?

Exactly.

But the sad thing is, it actually could work so well. Not only would it be the most organic thing for the characters, where they’d get an outlet for all of that chemistry, but it would take Supergirl to an ICONIC level. More so, it would rescue it from that hole it seems to be heading for with the current storyline, specifically that of the questionable relationship with the questionable boyfriend. (I just want to clarify, I have no problem whatsoever with Supergirl being in a heterosexual relationship. However I *do* have a problem with her being in any kind of relationship with any person who is, frankly, bad for her.)

To sum up and bring all this to the final point: the chances of Supercorp becoming canon are small. The producers and writers so far have not been very acknowledging, let alone supportive, of our fandom or our ship. There’s even been mention of an actor/actress having rolled their eyes when asked whether they ship Supercorp, as if the thought of two women with an amazing dynamic being more than friends is a ridiculous concept. (I do have to say, this in particular really broke my heart, because with all the Sanvers-ness they’ve included in the show, and all the overwhelming feedback they’ve received from the fans and how much it has meant to people, how much it has positively affected everyone, it’s like they’ve actually missed the entire point.)

Other than that (the rolling of the eyes), no one on the production team has made any comment on Supercorp whatsoever, even though this ship is literally one of the best drives they have going for their show right now.

If Supercorp were to win the Zimbio polls, the actresses would be approached for an interview. If Supercorp were to win the Zimbio polls and the actresses approached for an interview, the writers and producers would most likely hear about it. If this positive, beautiful dynamic between these two strong, powerful women were to win, the production team might begin to take Supercorp a little more seriously, where they might acknowledge it in some way or they might just think twice about ruining the story and Lena’s character by turning her evil, while they elevate the questionable boyfriend to the level of hero.

But more than anything, if the production team were to notice just how beloved Supercorp is, they would realise that positive representation doesn’t stop with Sanvers. That representation of  diversity in real life doesn’t end with one, secondary character, gay couple, that we need more, and that when we see palpable chemistry in a positive relationship, who happens to be of the same sex, compared to that of a questionable relationship of a heterosexual couple, we deserve more. Gay or straight. Though to be honest, if Lena Luthor were a man, pretty much all Supergirl fans would have married them off by now because, as I said, their chemistry, and the positivity of their relationship, is unmissable and inspiring.

It’s more than just a ship at stake here, it’s a call for action for positive representation, which I’m sure, you all are for anyway. Clexa won the Zimbio poll last year, and rightfully so. They fully deserve to win this year too, but I don’t think much will change if they did win. Not for you, and not for me. If Supercorp won, we would be one small step towards changing the game once again, in always striving for more… More positive representation, more equality, more fairness. This is exactly what Clexa stood for and still stands for and that is why I think you will understand the importance of this.

So please, I am asking you: Help us get Supercorp to the top. It will be a victory for all of us. And let’s see whether we can begin to change the game for the better once again. If you agree, please vote, share this and help spread the word.

<3

Zimbio poll is here:

http://www.zimbio.com/brackets/TV+Couples+March+Madness+2017