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claire-starsword · 2 years
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Shining Force All HQ Quotes - JP & ENG
[translated some of these on the guide book notes anyway so why not gather them all. I avoided it because Lowe’s sexual harassment bums me out but it came up on the guide anyway so whatever at this point. I promise other characters get better stuff.
Since I did not play the JP version quotes are taken from this handy list. English screenshots are from an old playthrough of mine so Max has a different name.
Also, several active team quotes were reused (with occasional tweaks) in the GBA version and translated accurately there. I didn’t have the patience to screenshots them all but used them as reference in my own translations. That’s enough rambling so let’s go]
Luke
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"Nothing to fear while I'm here! Take me to battle always!"
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"Everyone's talking about how awesome the last battle was, c'mon, take me on the next one! It won't be fun to go back home without anything to brag about."
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Ken
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"Getting to fight as a real knight is like a dream come true. I'll do my best!"
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"I'm sorry, Max, but traveling through all these countries is a lot of fun."
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Tao
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"I'll fight to my very end... I want to be of service to you!"
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"...Hmm, hmm... Mythical magic? ... I don't get it... Where could it be? ...I don't understand... but I want to."
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Hans
Active: the english version is perfectly accurate, save for cutting the ellipsis
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"Max, seems like you were really fierce in the last battle… You’re brave... While I’m so, so afraid. I wonder how the others feel."
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Lowe
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"I'm the support so that everyone can fight with no worries... But let me fight too sometimes!"
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"Ah, I'm bored, so bored. I feel like messing with the girls now. Whoa, what! That's a scary face, man... I got it, I'll behave."
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[much better]
Gong
Active: the english version is accurate.
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"Humpf, huff, huff! Hiyah! What are you staring at so intently? I'm training so that my attacks get stronger."
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Gort
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"This great Gort isn't about to lose to any youngsters yet!"
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"Max! Want some sashimi? I and the other guys who were free caught some fish and cut them up with this sword. Oops, was that not okay?"
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Mae
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"I inherited my father's strength! I won't forgive you if you look down at me for being a woman!"
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Rest: the english version is accurate save for cutting a "One two! One, two!" at the beginning
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Khris
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"Tell me when you get hurt, okay? Even a small wound can make you unable to fight if you don't care for it."
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“B-Blaaaze! ...Aww, it really doesn’t work... Max... I think it’s impossible for a priest to use Blaze...”
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Anri
Active: english version is mostly accurate but missing the end part.
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"Max, thank you for your efforts. I'll do my best too, so take care of yourself as well."
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"Max! Listen here, Lowe just touched my butt! If he does it again I'll blast him with a Blaze spell."
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Arthur
Active: english version is accurate
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"Once this journey is over, there’s something I want to do. I’m thinking of searching for the legendary golden Holy Grail..."
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Balbaroy
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"I'll fight until these wings break. With our pride as rulers of the sky..."
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"*crack* *crack* Oh, my neck is tense. I've been flying all year so this area around the neck gets stiff. It gets harder to move the wings too."
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Amon
Active: english version is perfectly accurate
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"*flapflapflap* *flapflapflap* I just can't stand still on the ground! *flapflapflap* *flapflapflap*"
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Diane
Active: english version is accurate although cutting a generic "I'll strike them all down!" at the end
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"*click* *click* *nyooooom* Ah, this? I'm restringing my bow. Should be okay now. *nyoooom*"
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Zylo
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"We werewolves were born to fight. Of course I wish to be at the battlefield..."
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"*swish* *swish* *swish* *swish* My claws are my weapons. Of course it is crucial to take care of them. Good, they look in excellent shape."
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Pelle
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"Don't get it wrong. I'm a real knight. I don't just go whenever the money is."
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"*clop clop* *stab!* Whoa! That was close... I might end up hurting you if you come to talk while I'm training."
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Yogurt his japanese line is the same either in the active team or not:
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"...I don't get it..."
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Rest:
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Kokichi
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"Yahoo! I'm fired up to fight! I'll make quick work of those Runefaust guys!"
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"Hey there, Max! Behold the wonders of modern life! Walking is now a thing of the past."
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Vankar
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"Putting me in battle means you have great eyes! As expected of a leader!"
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“(hic) Drinks, more drinks! Keep bringing on the drinks! Oh, if it ain’t Max! Say, my glass’ been empty for a while now, fill it up for me, won’t ya?”
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Domingo
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"Ahem. Did yu know? There's thwee times more ocean than land in this wold."
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“Ahem. Did yu know? No one here believs it but, the wold isn’t flat.”
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Guntz
Active: the GBA version fits perfectly
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"Hssss hsssssss... My steam engine's fired up and raring to go!"
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"*Hsssss hssssss* Everything's fine. I'm doing some maintenance right now. Ah, this is the best."
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Earnest
Active: The english version is accurate save for dropping the drama ellipsis (the jp version is more like “My wish... is to fight at the front lines!”).
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"It's also good to take a break from fighting once in a while. Since I've been fighting all my life..."
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Lyle
Active: english version is accurate save for cutting out the Assault Cannon's name
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"...Huh? An, an enemy attack? ...Was it a dream? This is really embarrassing. Since I had nothing to do I ended up dozing off I guess."
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Bleu
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"I'll fight! With my pride as a sacred dragon!"
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Rest: english version is mostly accurate but i ended up retranslating anyway
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"*swoosh* *swoosh* *swoosh* Do I still lack experience? I'm not great at using my tail."
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Musashi
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"Any specters that appear shall be cut by my sword. Gahaha!"
[Check the notes on his bio for the specters/mononoke thing. Also, like most samurai characters in media, Musashi uses some outdated language. Unfortunately I don't know enough old english to try to adapt that.]
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"... ...I'm awake... Perhaps you do not know. This is a form of meditation, Zazen. It is part of my training."
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Alef
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"Let's do our best together to defeat Darksol."
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"What is the deal with that priest, Lowe? He's been loitering around for a while. It's quite unpleasant, could you do something about it?"
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Torasu
Active: the english version is accurate, if a bit clumsy
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"Please try to not be hurt badly. If your allies are hurt, leave them to me."
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"Max, you're wide open! *thump* Aah, you didn't feel it at all? Ohh, were I powerful like a monk, maybe I'd stand out more."
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Adam
Active: the GBA version fits perfectly.
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"I was born to serve you... I will follow wherever you lead."
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“Darksol… I cannot forgive him. Even Chaos was used by him… I won’t ever forgive him…”
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Hanzou
Active: the GBA version fits perfectly.
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"...A ninja is a man of few words. We are content to show our strength in battle..."
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"Everyone is very active. Well, it's fine by me. I am of the shadows. A bright place like this does not suit me. But should you desire, I'll lend you my power."
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starswordartblog · 2 years
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“B-Blaaaze! ...Aww, it really doesn’t work... Max... I think it’s impossible for a priest to use Blaze...”
Shininginktober late Day 9: Khris! I think she should be allowed to burn things a little. As a treat.
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savetopnow · 6 years
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mechagalaxy · 6 years
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Death for dinner The battle had raged for hours. In the beginning, two former Bunnies had brought their full fury to play, Holy Damn, cyborg and semi-sane had brought his mighty full array to charge at the point of the Death Collectors sweep, like the blade of a man-reaper. Todd Rainey had met his charge and shattered it. Myeponym had swept his Novum into the glacier caverns, below the reaches where his old Chieftain, Christine Mainer ruled with her 40’s. His Novum’s were good, but mine were perhaps the third deadliest in known space. For four hours we fought to control the battlespace. Who controlled the key terrain features could contain the battle, channeling their own troops across to concentrate on isolated pockets of the foe. The battle for those choke points was over, and the Death’s Head was staring at the fall of night with the cold knowledge that what remained was simply the harvesting. They knew the score. On any other field they would reign supreme, know their foes trembled at their approach, but here in Division One, they walked as giants among Titans, as heroes in a land where gods and demons went to war. Magnificent as they were, it would not, could not, be enough. Melissa looked at their icons on the HQ display, her eyes reading the strategic outlay with the skill of years of command. She shuddered. “That was us once” She said. Remembering her own time as the last and the least of Division One, not fondly, but clearly. Outmatched, outgunned, with no hope of victory, no real expectation of profit, but no intention of surrendering. Nothing left but your pride as a warrior, it couldn’t change whether you lived or died, but it could change how you died. Don Lindley sucked on his beer and chuckled. “That was us yesterday” A cold laugh went around the room. Against Warlock the Spirit were equally outgunned. Perhaps the Chief could get a few wins, but even that was risky. Joe Kump looked up, toying with the knives at his wrist. His hands visibly forcing themselves to not caress the raven hilted sword at his hip. Mercenary killer or not, Sir Raven was a product of his class, and no amount of pragmatism could undo that classical education and romanticism. Todd Rainey fingered his signet ring, the charge of his own arms bright, where he rubbed it. His voice was whistful “It’s a shame they have to go out that way. Mopping up now is just a matter of fire concentration, we can do it, and they can’t. If they counter attack, its over quicker, and we use less ammo, but that is it. Shame really” The bunnies that hopped about the field encampment were a common sight, the Spirit of Bunny pilots used them to control the dumpshock when they had their mecha shot out from under them. They also served to detect clones, cyber-controlled puppets, and various other “not the human you are pretending to be” infiltrators. They were also the spirit of the clan. The sacral heart, first truth of the clan. Not the wisest animal on the earth, or other planets, but the bunnies understood the hearts of human pilots better than those pilots did themselves. They saw the hunger none would admit to, saw the wounds to the spirit they had already suffered this war, and saw the wounds they were about to inflict. Saw, and refused to allow it. Easter was the senior of all the rabbits of the Bunny clans. She looked at her mate Daffy, and in the way of female rabbits everywhere, gave him all the heavy lifting to do, and no explanation as to why. Without any objection, he hopped over to the skull taken from the AFF in Faction War, and hopped it over to the field altar. Easter ran to the side of the altar, where the Defenders of Bunny family flag, and the Spirit of Bunny battle banner hung to either side of the altar. With a kick, she knocked the Spirit of Bunny banner so it fell across the altar. Jumping to the altar as the pilots all turned to observe her, she nudged the AFF skull onto the banner, and planted a foreleg on top of it. Rising to her full, if small height, she raised her ears and glared a challenge at them, standing atop the Bunny banner, and AFF skull. Priest, chieftain, and madman, John quickly realized what Easter meant. This was not to be a slaughter to be forgotten as soon as you could drink yourself unconscious. This was to be a proper war. “YES! By the gods yes! Easter is right. They do not go out that way. Mariea Lindley, you are Herald of the Spirit of Bunny. You will deliver the challenge.” John was standing now, shouting, almost raving. His voice rang with excitement and you could see it catching among the waiting officers. “Pilots, join your techs, I want those machines repainted with full heraldry. Screw cammo, we wear parade colours. Personal honours, banners. I want those machines to shine like you are passing in review for the Prince of Iron his own insane self. Full dress uniform, side arms included.” Turning to the logistics staff, he spun again, his commands causing diagrams to unfold overlaying the map information directing the construction his combat engineers and logistics staff would have to begin. “Pavilions for the wounded here, and here. Pavilions for the feast here and here. Stand for the technical crews to observe to flank each one, I want full shields on those, use the ones we stole from Warlock, they are rich enough I doubt they noticed they are missing yet anyway.” Turning to his pilots he grinned at them, meeting their enthusiasm with his own. “There will be no slaughter here, we are holding a good old-fashioned war. If there is no glory to be found upon the field, by the gods we will make our own” A single mecha, a scarlet and silver Notas that blazed like the sun strode down from the Bunny held hills towards the Death Collectors lines. Its shoulder vents flared with bright flames, giving the Notas bright wings like an angel as it strode down into towards its enemy lines. In its right hand was a spear of shining crystal, its tip blazing with cold fire of an enhanced field power weapon, and from it flew the Spirit of Bunny battle banner, chased with gold and silver, hand sewn by the women of the Clan, and marked with shot and beam from years of proud battle. Moving to the front of the waiting host. The Notas cracked its cockpit, and the pilot stood to address her foes on voxcaster and loudspeaker both. Holo emitters in her Notas projected her image rendered to forty feet in height, her voice to thunder ringing off the hills. “I am Dame Mariea Lindley, Herald to the Spirit of Bunny. My Chieftain offers his respects to the Death Collectors, and lays this challenge before them” Raising her hand, she shows the metal gauntlet. Marked with the interlocking triangles of the Valknut, and the bunny sign that marked as Mainer’s personal gauntlet, she threw it to the ground in front of Colonel Roman Himmelhan, CO of General Goetz lead Regiment of the AFF. “Let Colonel Roman Himmelhan take up this gauntlet if he dares, and meet my lord on the fields of Sagrahas, with all the forces at his command. There we will do battle for possession of this land and its lordship while the sun shines. When the last light of the sun fades, you are invited to attend the feast and revels of my Clan in celebration of your valour in the days of battle that we have seen you fight already, and to honour those who joined up upon the field this day, to test their skill at arms in honest and open combat!” Roman Himmelhan looked over at General Robert C Goetz Sr, founder and lord of all the AFF. He looked at the gauntlet, and offered a quote from the Song of Solomon. “Who is she that looketh forth as the morning, fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners?” [Song of Solomon 6:10] He grinned, and nodded to Roman, adding “Trust those lunatics to use actual banners. Take the gauntlet. Let us remind them they face the best of the AFF” Roman stalked forward, cameras in the Notas now showing his image again 40 ft tall above Mariea’s Notas, microphones poised to catch his response to the challenge. Taking up the gauntlet, he raised it above his head, waved it left and right so his own troops could see it, then tucked it beneath his belt. “Let your lord know that we receive his challenge, and bid him to prepare himself. We will meet him on the plains of Sagrahas with all the forces at my command. Prepare yourself little bunny, Death is coming to dinner” And so it came to pass, two hosts, bright and terrible with banners did meet at dawn on the fields of Sagrahas. Battle raged, blows were struck, and brave knights fell in glory. Cheers of the non combatants at the bright deeds of their champions sounded loud as the crash of cannon or roar of flames, and drowned out the cries of the wounded, and the call of carrion crow. When night fall, the wine and mead flowed thicker than the blood of the day, the fires roared this time in feast, and laughter sounded upon the plains. One banner flew o’er the plains, but both banners had been well covered with glory so each army would march away in the morn proud to see it fly unstained before them So ended Clan War 3336, Division One John T Mainer 28840 — with Mariea Lindley.
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claire-starsword · 1 year
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Shining Force All Ship HQ Quotes - JP & ENG
Regular HQ quotes here
HQ quotes from SF2 here
HQ quotes from Final Conflict here
Ken:
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"It's my first time ever being in a ship this big."
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Luke: english version is accurate
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Tao:
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"So this is a ship... I've always wanted to ride on one at least once."
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Hans:
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"What if I'm thrown into the sea... When I imagine that I get so, so scared. I wonder how the others feel."
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Lowe:
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"Unnngh, I feel sick... It'd be great to learn a spell that could heal seasickness..."
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"Traveling by ship is great too... If you lend an ear to the sounds of the waves, you can hear the words of the ocean."
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Gort: english version is accurate
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This might contradict the GBA version, where Gort has a tragic story involving the ocean, and is not thrilled to battle at sea.
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Of course, disliking to fight at sea isn't the same as dislike the sea, though. At the same time, Max’s diary also portrays him as seasick, so it does feel like the writers really had different ideas on this.
Mae: english version is accurate save for changing her intonation at the end
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Khris:
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"The others seem to be sick. Maybe I should’ve given them some medicine."
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Anri:
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"We're finally going to the eastern continent. I wonder if we'll ever see Guardiana again..."
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Arthur:
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"I have no experience fighting on a ship. Will I be able to fight well?"
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Balbaroy: english version is mostly accurate, though I feel JP Balbaroy is a little pushier/passive aggressive
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"Those of use who can fly are great in sea battles. Doesn't hurt to keep that in mind."
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Amon:
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"Has Balbaroy already talked to you about this? We are very helpful in sea battles since we can fly."
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Diane:
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"I bet my skills will be useful to intercept enemies from here on the ship."
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Zylo:
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"I can't relax while on this ship. It's far too different from a forest..."
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Pelle:
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"We knights might not be that good at a sea battle..."
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Yogurt:
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“…I don’t get it…”
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As usual, Yogurt gets always the same line in japanese, while the localization decides to remove the gag and pretend he's a normal character.
Kokichi:
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"Oh, I'm worried. What will I do if I fall to the sea? I can't swim..."
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Vankar:
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"Uugh, I feel sick... No, no, not from drinking, it's the sea."
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Domingo:
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“Ahem. Did yu know? No one here believs it but, the ocean and wivers are connected."
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Guntz:
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"I hate the sea! I mean, my engine and armor are all gonna rust here."
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Earnest:
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"I'm fine with sea voyages. Since I've traveled through many other countries, I've been in ships before."
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Alef:
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As I’ve shown yesterday, Alef has a line set up for this HQ in the US version of the game even though she’s not normally available at this point (both screenshots above are using Debug Mode). I have now confirmed the same doesn’t happen in the JP version, where she has an empty “0“ string like the other late game characters (Torasu, Lyle, Bleu, Musashi, Hanzou, and Adam).
Finally, the JP version also has an extra tidbit about Queen Koron having sent the ship’s priest:
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"I'm a priest. Queen Koron of Pao asked me to come along you in this ship. Sea voyages can be dangerous, so I hope someone like me can be of help to you."
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claire-starsword · 9 months
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Happy new year, the Neocities website now has a revision of my HQ quote translations for active SF2 members, done as an interactive map. This is one of the main things I wanted to do when moving things there and it's a delight to see it in action.
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claire-starsword · 2 years
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Final Conflict all HQ quotes
Mead leaving the team:
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"Our goal is to defeat the devil army! So I won't be sad for not getting to be in battle, really... I mean it, I'm not sad!"
joining the team:
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"I'll fight with all my strength and pride as a knight! I'll do my best."
Paige leaving the team:
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"I've been fighting since the beginning and now you want to leave me behind? No way, I can be useful..."
joining the team:
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"Of course the battle can't start without me there! After all I'm way more useful than Mead."
Hawel leaving the team:
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"My magic is something born from wisdom. I'll keep studying while I rest and improve it."
joining the team:
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"My studies aren't good just for explaining mysteries. I'll prove that in the battlefield."
Sonette leaving the team:
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"Bows need maintenance at times, I was wondering if you would let me rest a little. Will you be fine without me?"
joining the team:
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"Leave the backline support to me. I'll shoot down any enemies."
Knuckles leaving the team:
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"Eeh?! You're leaving me behind? Is it because Paige said I oversleep? But that's not true..."
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"Who's too easygoing? Nobody says that once they've seen how I fight!"
Cynthia leaving the team:
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"Everyone, take care... I'll be praying for your victory here on headquarters."
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"If you get hurt please tell me as soon as possible, okay? The sooner the healing is done the better."
Ruburan leaving the team:
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"So you're my replacement? Hmpf. You'll be in trouble if you don't do as great as me."
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"Of course I don't mess up at fighting or stealing, I'm a real pro. Just leave it all to me."
[Note: the word Ruburan uses for mess up here, ドジ (doji), is the same he uses in a previous cutscene when referring to his failure in protecting his subordinates from Mishaela. So saying he never messes up feels like massive copium on his part.]
Kiddo leaving the team:
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"Aren't you looking down on me because you think I'm still just a kid? I'm sure I can be of help to you..."
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"Watch me attack from the skies! I'll get the drop on those devils!"
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"It seems that I could not be of use to all of you... So that it won't come to this again, I shall undergo more training at headquarters."
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"For my motherland, Pacalon, I shall fight to my very end!"
Julia leaving the team:
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"You're leaving me behind? Once the battle starts it will be to late to regret it."
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"You don't need to meddle in my fights. Let me test my skills as I please."
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"My wish is to fight the devil army and defeat Mishaela. But I must not be selfish. I'll be watching over you all at least."
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"For my father, Elliot, and for the world as well, I'll fight with all I have!"
Mint leaving the team:
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"I'm sure Goddess Mitula is watching over everyone as well. The rest is up to you!"
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"O Goddess Mitula, I'm heading to the battlefield now. Please lend me your divine protection!"
Morton leaving the team:
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"You see, at this age fighting takes quite the toll. Let me take a break, alright?"
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"Best place to test the fruits of your training is the actual battlefield, no? I'll try it out in this one."
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"The secret shinobi arts aren't something to show off. But, should you need my power, call me at any time."
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"To live in shadows is the fate of a shinobi. But right now it's time to fight for a great cause."
Ridion leaving the team:
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"My body is having trouble keeping up after being imprisoned. I'll leave it to you all."
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"Alright, we're off to battle! Let's answer to Lynx's chivalry with our own actions in the battlefield."
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"Retreating is a tactic as well! It's important to know one's limits and not attempt the impossible."
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"The way of the warrior is to discard one's life and carry out justice. I shall stand by your orders!"
Max leaving the team:
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"Even if I leave the battle, as long as I set up a strategy for you guys there's no way you'll lose! I'll do my best."
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"Everyone, are you prepared? No matter what enemies are up ahead, I'll fight with all my strength!"
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All of Torasu’s dialogue from the GBA remake. Based on Prompt’s entry on the guide book’s country guide, though as far as I’m aware, the idea of conflict between humans and non-humans is stated in the GBA version only.
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Shining Force Translations/Loreposting masterpost
About time I tried to organize all the rambling i do here.
Update: also organizing things even better on a website on Neocities, it’s still a work in progress but I hope to one day just replace this entire mess of links with it.
For now though, the mess of links below is the best we’ve got.
Shining Force:
partial translation of character bios from the Shining Force Encyclopedia (original scans here)
translations of the Shining Force Kouryaku no Tebiki Book (original scans here), starting from the character bios, then getting to Max’s diary, the epilogue interview with Nova, and the Country Guide.
translations of the Shining Force World Book  (original scans here)
partial translations of the Shining Force Data Collection from Beep Megadrive magazine
Write up on the japanese pre release coverage of the game, including plenty of changed/removed content
Write up on unused content in the game seen through a ROM editor.
Some further investigation on unused content visible with walk through wall cheats: Khris’ scandalous secret line, unused NPCs in Alterone, and weirdness in chapter 7 and the debug mode (note: i have since then sadly confirmed that lines related to the unused event in Metapha are sadly removed in the JP version as well).
The unused content info is also summarized on TCRF as well.
that one post where i ramble a lot about the ending, including the japanese/english differences
All HQ quotes in the japanese and english versions
All special quotes from the ship HQ of Chapter 5, japanese and english versions
Bloodline of the Sacred Dragons novel translation [ongoing]
Shining Force CD/Gaiden 1 & 2:
Discussion and retranslation of the initial characters’ introduction scene
Sadposting about Hindel plus a small correction to the localization
tfw you don’t have money for treatment in Book 3
Hanzou’s bio from the Guide Book
Natasha is Nick’s cousin according to the SFCD manual
Origin of Apis’ name
Final Conflict:
Translation of all HQ quotes. From what I’ve seen these were mistranslated in the fan translation patch.
Sprite rips and comparisons between the original graphics and the sprites from Shining Force Chronicles 3, the lost mobile version of the game.
Darksol concept art
A few scenes from the start
Me crying about the ending
Unused spell indexes
The Natadecoco/Yogurt lore...
Not mine but worth linking here: the only footage of Shining Force Chronicles 3 I’ve ever found.
Shining Force 2:
All HQ quotes in the japanese and english versions, plus some related stuff from a guide book
Translation of the encyclopedia. You gotta put up with some rambling at the start because i didn’t put that in a different tag my bad.
Manual translations (The prologue and character bios). Also includes a retranslation of the lore dump of Tristan and discussion of the names changed by localization.
Write up of the japanese pre release coverage of the game, including plenty of early build screenshots. The post is currently broken and cannot be edited, but unlike what it says I won’t be making a second part, there are only a few screenshots missing and I’ll put them on TCRF later and link it here.
Bloodline of the Sacred Dragons novel translation [ongoing] (listed it twice in the post since it takes place between SF1 and SF2 with plenty of characters and elements from both)
Sadposting about Hawel
Observation about the Granseal escape sequence that haunts me
Ramblings and love for Zynk
Oddeye’s concept art/beta design
My gameplay of the japanese version. I didn’t make an specific tag for it so you gotta scroll past a few english posts first, my bad. Also I stopped the playthrough at Red Baron. Overall take translations in this one with a grain of salt because it’s messy and old.
Japanese and english versions of the conflict with Oddeye
Me trying and failing to understand the lore dump at Hassan
Fairly important cut line from Zynk
Shining Force GBA:
The english version’s odd obsession with giving relatives to people
HQ dialogue
English Nova forgets Anri exists
Shining Wisdom:
Guide Book translations
Interview snippet from before the game’s launch that says Final Conflict characters were meant to have a cameo appearance there
Shining in the Darkness:
JP manual and intro translation, plus a mention of Dark Dragon in a magazine
Shining Soul 2
Translation of the prologue and bios of the playable characters from the guide book and official website
Translation of bios of the town NPCs
Translation of bios of the boss characters
Masterpost about the lost mobile games
The general tag for discussing localization stuff
My playthroughs. Note that back at some of those playthroughs I hadn’t yet dived into guides and lore and stuff so they might have mistakes and stuff, I’m not linking them as a source of info, just as a source of fun:
Shining Force
Shining Force CD
Final Conflict
Shining Force 2
Shining Force GBA
Shining Soul
Shining Soul 2, mostly with a Slade sprite hack
Shining Wisdom
Landstalker
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Shining Force 2 All HQ Quotes - JP & ENG
Quotes from the first game here
[put this off for a while since i feel there are less mistranslations, the dialogue in this game is mostly just abridged for ROM space reasons I suppose. Still, there’s still interesting things to see. Unfortunately there’s also even more sexual harassment gags than in the previous game, and hitting most of my favorite characters no less. Yay.
To save those characters a bit, I’ve also translated some stuff from a japanese guide book. That guide book sadly doesn’t have much in terms of character trivia and such, it’s more focused on gameplay stats only, but it does give each character a spicy quote or description for flavor (some are very ambiguous on if they’re first or third person, I’ve noted them as such). And if you stick til the end, maybe you’ll even get some words from our great leader as well? Wouldn’t that be a change of pace.
Most screenshots here are mine but I still had to take a few from RRPG as I didn’t finish my JP playthrough. That’s all the rambling I had, let’s jump to it.]
Sarah
Active: english version is accurate
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"Got it? Don't be reckless! You're our leader, so we lose if you're defeated."
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"That Jaha! I won't forgive him! ...He was harassing me so I beat him up real hard."
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Guide book quote/description (ambiguous if it's first or third person):
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"Divine punishment dealt in a flash with Hellblast!"
Chester
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"*Whinny!* *Snort*... When I imagine the next battle I get kinda pumped up!"
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"That Jaha, man... He is way too flighty with his crushes! He keeps hitting on everyone!"
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Guide book quote/description (ambiguous if it's first or third person):
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"Face the enemies in our way with a powerful charge!"
Jaha
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"Get ready for anything! I'll be on my guard as well! Huh? Ah, I forgot my helmet."
Originally Jaha says 兜の緒を締めよ, which literally means "fasten the straps of your helmet", but is meant as an expression for "be ready/be on your guard" (kinda like "buckle up" i guess, but that's more related to vehicle so it felt weird to use it). He then follows up on the literal meaning by going to fiddle with his helmet before realizing he just tied a cloth to his head instead. Which is, uh, sure a mistake one can make??? It's pretty nonsense and i didn't find an equivalent expression anyway so I took liberties with it. Do I look like I respect canon Jaha anyway.
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"Oww... Is my cheek still red? I just messed around with Sarah a bit and she slapped me real hard!"
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Guide book quote/description (ambiguous if it's first or third person):
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"A single swing of this axe can shatter even mithril!"
Kazin
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"When it comes to battle strategy... Yes, Sir Hawel's teachings will be very useful after all..."
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"I'm just... *crack* stretching! My neck gets stiff from using magic, so I have to do some exercises once in a while."
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"Flames of the demon world, burn my enemies to ashes!"
Slade
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"I'm skilled at throwing knives! Passing it from one hand to the other helps it pick up speed. Hah!"
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"After this battle is over... Hehe, I wonder what I should steal next... Ah, you heard that?"
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"A great thief like me, caught by the likes of you?"
Kiwi
[As mascot characters often do, Kiwi has a speaking quirk of ending his sentences in kame (turtle). This stuff usually works better in japanese.]
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"I've learned... how to talk... a bit, but... it's tiring... Fighting.... not as much... Turt..."
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"Neck goes in... in... I'm training... how to dodge... Neck goes in, in, like a turtle..."
The word he uses for retracting his neck is スッポン, an onomatopoeia for things fitting nicely into a hole/entrance. It can also mean softshell turtle though, and I feel it's an intentional double meaning so i added the "like a turtle" to flow into his ending quirk. Literally the only time I'm happy with how I adapted it.
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"I'll repay you for saving me, turt..."
Peter
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"We phoenixes are really great when it comes to battles! Even if we fall, we can revive without needing the church."
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"Hmpf... Hey, Bowie! I'm not brash, right? Seems some people have been saying about me!"
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Guide book quote: basically the same thing
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"Hey, hey, I'm not brash, right?"
Matilda
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"As a centaur who can use a bow, I'm a good match against any enemy!"
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"Say, what's Grans Island like? I was born in the countryside, of course... I really wanna see big cities."
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"The red shooting star running through the fields, that's me..."
The japanese word for shooting star, 流星, is made up of the kanji for flow/drift/stream and star. As far as I know any wordplay with "shooting" happening here is purely accidental and I love it.
Gerhalt
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"If you ask me... Using weapons to fight is dirty! Real fighters should use their bare hands!"
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"Grrrrr, grrrrr... So? Scary, right? I'm trying to be intimidating, but..."
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"The gentle werewolf with a great sense of justice."
Luke
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"The ones who can freely use swords are you and us birdmen! Let us make them ring in the next battle as well!"
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"It's a relief to come back to headquarters. We might get rusty if we stay in the Caravan all the time..."
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Guide book quote/description (ambiguous if it's first or third person):
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"Can you survive this swooping kill?!"
This one is another reason I decided to bring up the guide book in this post. I find it curious that his active quote is one of the few changed in the english version for no discernible reason and happens to match the guide book quote. Obviously both are referencing his attack animation and thus could be a coincidence, but it’s still curious.
Rick
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“We centaurs are the main fighters in a battle, so we can’t ever let our guard down.”
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"I knew that I wouldn't be bored if I traveled with you all, but I'm impressed with how the surprises never stop."
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"A young centaur brimming with curiosity."
Elric
Active: English version is mostly accurate although he says enemies from the sky are "ours", plural.
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"Ah, some time to relax! Once you're clean of all the filth from the battlefield you can feel like yourself again!"
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Guide book quote/description (ambiguous if it's first or third person):
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"Hit in a single blow! No missing the target!!"
Karna
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"I've been in adventures before so I'm not scared of any battle! Let's head to the next one already!"
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"That hobbit! I won't forgive him! He's been doing a bunch of naughty things in the Caravan. Maybe I should teach him a lesson next time!"
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Guide book quote:
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"If it's healing magic you need, leave it to me."
Eric
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"Even while lost in time I didn't neglect my training, so I won't be a burden to you."
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"With this many centaurs gathered our value doesn't stand out as much, but... I might be the one with the greatest lineage here."
It was cut in the english version, but Eric mentions in the og game he used to be lord of a castle.
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"I shall assist you, with my pride as a knight at stake!"
Tyrin
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"My magical power is still far from rusty! Let's defeat those devils."
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"What are young people thinking nowadays? Am I getting old? I can't follow it..."
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Guide book description:
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"A middle aged wizard who doesn't look like an elf."
Randolf
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"You sure? That no coward is gonna chicken out when the battle starts? There's a bunch of brats to look after here!"
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"Bravo, bravo, here it comes! It's great that I can even drink here. Drinking and fighting, that's life for me!"
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"Attacks of that level won't put a scratch on me!"
Janet
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"Fighting is... always dreadful. But I'll give everything I've got to protect the peace of this land."
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"Hee hee! Ah, I'm so happy! Being with Elric is all I need to feel blessed."
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"Aah Elric, you left me behind!"
Rohde
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"The dwarves' technology is amazing! With this cannon, I can fight as well!"
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"The Ancients' technology is amazing! There's nothing greater than riding in a vehicle!"
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Guide book quote:
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"I'm tempted to use this cannon!"
Higins
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"I've recovered from my illness so I won't lag behind anyone! Let's show these devils our power!"
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"I heard that those possessed by a devil become unable to die... That could have been my fate back then!"
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Guide book quote:
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“Loathsome devils, I’ll stab you with this spear!”
Taya
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"No matter how strong devils are, they don't compare to the power of nature. Spirits! Lend me your strength!"
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"Goddess Mitula might look young, but she's been like that since the distant past! Just how old is she, exactly?"
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Guide book quote:
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"Come, o great Atlas! Heed my call!"
Skreech
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"I can't deny my lack of strength, we are meant to shine with surprise attacks from the skies."
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"I won't ever forget how you saved me."
Jaro
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"Why is everyone here so enthusiastic? I fight at my own pace!"
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"Ah... It's so comfortable here! Never seen a place where you still get a meal without doing anything!"
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"To the east today, to the west tomorrow, I'm a wanderer across battlefields."
Frayja
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"How terrible are these devils... My wrath is the wrath of the gods, and I'll fight with their power!"
The word Frayja uses for power here, 法力, seems to be about powers attributed to buddhist priests. Another example of the religious term salad that makes up this series.
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"Hellblast! It, it feels great. Though we who serve the gods shouldn't indulge in violence..."
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He does not learn blast spells in game. This is false advertising.
Guide book quote:
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"Gods! Please grant my prayers!"
Gyan
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"Traveling has been a hobby of mine for a long time. Look at the souvenirs I got for my family! This one's for my wife, and this one is for my son!"
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"My wife and son, wait for me!"
Sheela
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"You devils! Hiyah! Hiyaah! I'll knock you out with my kicks!"
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"Jaha isn't the only pervert around, we gotta be careful with Sir Astral as well! If he tries anything I'm kicking him in the balls this time!"
Shout out to my phone for constantly suggesting the crying emoji through this one.
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"Gathering strength from every inch of my body... Haah!"
Zynk
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"The conflict against the devils... Comes from those ancient times. We must end it!"
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Rest:
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"*Click* *clack* *click*... You look puzzled. I'm taking apart my body to oil it. *pop*"
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"I won’t be called a tin soldier!"
Claude
Active: english version is accurate, though i'd say duty instead of destiny, but it's a minor nitpick. Also it omits Claude's tick of saying "oon"/"olon" all the time.
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"No one comes near me inside the Caravan, they say they hate getting covered in dirt, oon."
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"Olon! Forgive the power of magic!"
Chaz
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“I usually seem gentle but, I’m thrilled when in battle. Perhaps it is in my nature to like conflict?”
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"Everyone here... They say I have the airs of a noble and shy away from me. *sobs*"
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Guide book quote:
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"Was it that one...? No, no, that's not it."
Lemon
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"Like Peter, I cannot die, so you needn't worry no matter how harsh the battle!"
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"Could you take my hand for a moment? So, how it is? Cold, isn't it? But despite that I'm still alive..."
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"My king... I believe in you."
Bowie
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"A hero who achieved balance between offense and defense."
...and more!
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sadly nothing in this guide book compares to the beauty that is Max's diary, but there is a small part with Bowie commenting on things as they return to New Granseal. It's largely just the HQ interactions you've read above, but hey! More words than you've ever got from Bowie before! Enjoy.
"Phew, there really is no place like home to relax, am I right? We gotta rest a lot to prepare for our next journey. Everyone worked hard to rebuild this town to the point you can hardly recognize it from before, so we have to do our best too, we'll definitely bring peace back to the world!
We usually don't have much time to just chat, and there's new people here as well, so I've been spending time with everyone else at headquarters. Unlike in the Caravan, there's plenty of space here, so they're relaxing and making themselves at home.
Those in the active party are standing by with an air of 'bring it on, any time!' They've got a lot of fighting spirit. As for those who've been staying in the Caravan, they're having tea, lying around in the beds, or training for battle. I think I saw Kiwi practicing how to dodge earlier. By the way, it feels Sir Astral always wants to be in the same table as the girls for some reason...
Speaking of that, seems Jaha's been hitting on the girls in the Caravan, and they hate it. We're in the middle of a war with the devils, what is he thinking?
Despite that, everyone is fired up for the next battle and that's really reassuring. Let's gather our strength and defeat the devils together!!"
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