#so many good lines in this one. itd be harder to pick lines from it to put in this post

[doctorwhoisadhd]

kindly tell me a lie / will you look me in the eye and say it'll all be alright in the end? / kindly tell me a lie / will you cross your heart and hope to die, cross your heart and hope to die, cross your heart and hope to die?

[izukult]

This is such a cute idea! I’m addicted to making weirdly specific Spotify playlists so this is perfect. I have an ✨eclectic✨ music taste but my favorites are usually bedroom pop (mxmtoon, chloe moriondo, khai dreams, etc), romantic classical (think Debussy and Revel), and indie (although I like some Megan Thee Stallion, AC/DC, Nirvana, etc when I’m hyping myself up). As far as my personality goes, I’m pretty insightful and like to support people whenever I can, even if I don’t know them well. I can be a little chaotic sometimes, but I like to think it’s a chaotic good. I love tea, blankets, philosophy, deep conversations, the outdoors, and writing. I’m also an INFP and a Taurus :)

Sorry if that was too much, thank you so much! Take care of yourself and stay well

- Elle ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

( @snoozless ) you don’t understand how bad i want to be your friend. 😐😐 ok so you kind of get bonus 😀 but it rly might not be bonus because akfjakdkw. so, i gave you matsukawa!! but he’s not always like revered about so if u want a character lmk!! i am. in love w him tho. you’re so sweet you would balance him out and yall would be equally chaotic together.

he would have philosophical questions w u!! he might just be a little blunt & might accidentally cut the convo short, but he would listen to everything you said.

he’s used to a wide variety of music bc i’m convinced the seijoh playlists are absolutely fucking cracked like so loud. so he really could sit there and listen to anything. and i mean ANYTHING. like if you wanted to put on christian rock he’d awkwardly try to tap his foot on beat for you.

but, that doesn’t mean he’s gonna geek over you i feel like he’d be pretty private about the relationship. he’s not like secretive but he’s not gonna post you every two seconds yknow? he wouldnt put prom photos, but if yall went to look at the stars or go on a little hike he’d take a pic and youre wearing baggy sweats and one of his shirts and your hair isnt brushed for shit and it’s way too dark to properly make your face out and he’d put that shit on his main absolutely 😒

this man would be the kind of mf to look up his “crush’s” zodiac just for shits & giggles, so if he randomly knows a taurus fact, don’t question it<3 (he looked up your compatibility and he will take that to the grave)

issei is an infp idc. so yall got that in common.

he’s genuinely so pretty.

bc i took so long, i’m going to put descriptions for all the songs i love you thanks for requesting sorry for taking forever i’ll link the playlist and list the songs<3

1. silly girl- chloe moriondo

okay while this song is actually kinda sad, i think tHIS is pretty cute. issei comes off as this intimidating guy, and the more you get to know him the more you forget ab this idea of him you had or whatever? like the lyrics “i made him perfect, cause i wanted him to be” are really prominent in the point i’m tryna make because like even tho the lyric is obviously sad bitch shit, music is up for interpretation and this is like “hello ok he actually a real mf and shiiit maybe he cool😁✊”

2. nice boys- TEMPOREX

kinda sad. i don’t care how unemotional he might act, everyone has shit that brings them down. PLUS HES A PISCES THERES NO WAY HES NOT SAD SOMETIMES. this song just really taps into insecurities for him, and the song just gets under his skin in like a very therapeutic way. also “because he’s a pisces” some of his emotions are super intense so the “because he cares too much” line hits him fuckin hard

3. IV. sweatpants- childish gambino

this is some shit he listens to more with his team, absolutely. no doubt they blare this shit during weekly practice. but, he really really likes the song. so, when you’re hanging out and he has the aux? it’s one of the first ones he puts on. you two jam to it together. he’ll come up w dumb little dances to fit with certain lyrics (stole some of them from oikawa and hanamaki, but he won’t tell you)

4. you get me so high- the neighbourhood

okay unfortunately i must say him and hanamaki get fuckin faded in empty fields at two am all trashy like. but they make it look good idc. and if you smoke, cool, if you don’t he does not care. he always associated getting high with,,, getting high and everytime he listened to this song it just was one of his getting blazed jams, but now he’s got like a different kinda “euphoric” feel with loving you? like i said this bitch is a pisces even if he doesn’t overwhelm you with affection, he thinks ab you 24/7

5. 80’s makeout session- dacelynn

thIS SONG IS SO CUTE. but it’s p self explanatory. in love and also spare a kiss pls

6. can i call you tonight- dayglow

i feel like actually coming to terms with genuine feelings for someone would be kind of weird for issei. like no offense, but he sees it as kind of a pain in the ass. i genuinely think he would be someone to put his all into work or a task in front of him. he’s super intuitive, and constantly uses it to be better. whether it’s in volleyball or like cremating ppl i guess (HE WORKS INA FUNERAL HOME POST TIME SKIP IF U DIDNT KNOW). and it’s the same in relationships, but it’s also harder because he can’t have this complete clear head because you make his brain go kinda fuzzy. so, this song is like his little way of expressing that even tho he was like ‘internally conflicted’ this mf chose to go for it and that’s how much u mean to him

7. clair de lune, L. 32- claude debussy

i’m gonna be fucking honest with you. even though he’ll listen to anything, i really don’t think this man is looking up ‘classical romance study tunes’ playlists in his free time. he definitely enjoys the music, but that’s only if someone points it out to him. and he’s listened to you talk about it before, and watched you as you heard the piano and gauged your reactions and thought u were pretty cute he’s not gonna lie😼. so he definitely just looked up classical romance and picked the first recommended song and added it on there. he’ll dance w you a lil bit, but it wouldn’t be that quiet, intimate slow dancing in the dark you think would come w this song. itd just be a little sway as he hugs you from behind while you get water, or he twirls you once randomly with a laugh UGH I LOVE HIM

8. like real people do- hozier

ok. this one was fun for me. idc. double meaning lol. so this song is literally about two dead bodies in a bog and ,,, and he works in a funeral home PLS LMAOFJAJDJA I THINK THATS SO FUCKING FUNNY AND SO DOES HE. but also this song literally is my idea of love. this is my idea of love. and yall listen to it, with your stupid little death joke, but he looks at you and he’s just like ‘oh’. yknow? YKNOW?

9. BS- still woozy

like i said, i think he puts a lot into work. and he literally plays for a powerhouse school there’s no way he doesn’t practice a lot. so that means there’s a lot of time where he’s physically not there and definitely can’t text, because he’s trying to improve. and while he wouldn’t stop volleyball for someone else, he understands that you are like super amazing for being so Cool with him not being the most available. the song just reminds him of how compassionate you are and also he does miss u when he’s at practice YKNOW?

10. i <3 u- boy pablo

this one made me so fucking soft ew. ok. this song reminds him of you so so much. he’s totally okay being vulnerable with you? and even though he has pretty heightened emotions, he’s never felt like so strongly for smth other than like ??? volleyball and caring ab his siblings (BUT HE FEELS DIFFERENT FOR U THAN HE DOES FOR A VOLLEYBALL AND HIS SIBLINGS PLEASE😁). HE LUVVVVV YOU

11. heart-shaped box- nirvana

so many reasons. for one, simply fucking JAM. yall would scream this on a drive. if you ever got drunk together, this would be the first song you play. also, little lyrics remind you of each other. (the pisces lyric in the first and third verse, and even tho the flowers aren’t being used in a sweet sense in the song he does remember talking ab flowers w u, and now any flower is mentioned and he’s like “ah yes. my girlfriend.”)

12. pluto projector- rex orange county

FUCK. FUCK THIS SONG. GOD. NO. LIKE HE REALIZES HE’S IN LOVE WITH YOU WITH THIS SONG. HE T E L L S YOU HE’S IN LOVE WITH YOU WITH THIS SONG. the first time, he just sends you the name of it like ‘pluto projector <3’ and you listen and it’s so sweet and ur like ayo turn this shit up. and he adds it to your playlist, which definitely gets a smile from you. and then one night like two weeks later youre just laying together, and he’s running his fingers through his hair and he pulls away for a second to grab his phone and he turns the song on and you just listen to it in silence and it’s so fucking intimate. and he’s just like “i don’t think i’ve ever related to a song more” and you think he’s making a joke so you tell him to shut up (also jokingly) and he just laughs and it’s dark in his room and he’s playing with your hair again and he just goes “god, if you’re telling me to shut up over that i don’t even want to imagine how you’re gonna react when i tell you i love you” and it’s right around 3:10 in the song i’m literally so gone for him. bye you cry and try to hide it but he can tell HES PERCEPTIVE

13. i wanna be yours- arctic monkeys

okay for one, it’s a good song. it’s a song he absolutely let’s play in the background, just to cover the static lol. but also? ALSO? THE TITLE APPLIES TO YOU THE FUCK? it’s as if,,, he’s whipped,,

14. supermassive black hole- muse

hanamaki prolly showed him this song, and it’s one of his vibe songs. he will do falsetto while singing it if he’s in a really good mood and it just makes everyone laugh, including himself. it actually kind of grosses him out, because this song used to literally just be a song he would aimlessly go hard to but NOW his little bitch ass is like “you set my soul alight”? i guess i relate and “oh baby, i’m a fool for you” well, surely i’m not a fool but yea i get you muse sing it. it’s so gross. at this point he wants one thing that doesn’t make him think of you, just to prove that he’s not that gone, but he struggling

15. desperado- rhianna

i’m sorry to say it but this song makes him feel like a bad bitch LMAOOOOO. like if he’s ever getting pregame jitters or anything, he will just play this song. whether it’s on the speaker or in his headphones, he puts this shit on full volume and gets a lil too cocky LOL. this is also on the main seijoh playlist no doubt. he wants to share his bad bitch song w you, so you can aLSO feel like a bad bitch?? dUH

IM SO SORRY FOR THE WAIT BABES! IF YOU WANT ANY OF THE SONGS CHANGED (or even the character) LMK!! UR AMAZING ur so sweet it makes me ill

[parkminijiminie]

(1) I don’t blame a lot of tk shippers for feeling the way that they do. When you’re so involved with a ship given the evidence at the start of their relationship, it isn’t easy to drop the belief that you had and support their relationship with someone else. Even if there’s strong behavioral changes that would imply that change. I think that’s why so many people get so frustrated with them not “seeing” jikook or getting their “vibes” it’s not their fault for not seeing it, its just that Tk’s

(2) early relationship set a precedent for their ship, and itd be hard to let go of it and see that it evolved to become platonic.(Although that love is still there and will likely never be removed! It’s just become a different kind) Jikook sort of evolved in the opposite way. Easy for us to see, in my opinion, because seeing friends turn to lovers is pretty transparent. But seeing lovers(Not sure if that’s the right word to describe them at the beginning. Mutual/loving/touchy experimenters?)

(3) turn to friends is more difficult to accept. not speaking for all people that like them together of course. I don’t ship them so I can’t really relate to their feelings. But given recent interaction, I find it easy to pick out of the group the couple that have that special *thing* however serious it is. They’re development in the past helps solidify it

Hey, Anon. I think you’re making a compelling point with your ask. 

You all know I’m not one of the KM shippers that has condemned t/k as entirely platonic from start to finish. or v/min and ji/hope by the way though I haven’t talked about these ships often. I just can’t, with clear conscious, rule out anything, especially when we’re talking about people leaving with each other for years, even more: teenage boys cramped in limited space. Anything could have happened during all this time, especially within Maknae line at one point or another. I know, I know, this ain’t the popular opinion but who’s to say what they were all up to through the years? 

That being said, me not ruling out v/k doesnt mean I’m a believer that something was going on between them, only that I haven’t crossed that option either, although I’m heavily inclined to think they’ve been (mostly) always just friends. To me v/k dynamic through the years is less them going from “romantic to platonic” or “friends to lovers” but  from “a pair with higher probability” to “a pair with significantly lower probability” of being “real” (aka in a committed relationship or otherwise romantically involved right now). 

If shipping people was all about objectiveness and critical thinking, one would think the “older fans” and “older shippers” would be the easiest to convince of changes because they’ve been around longer. Therefore they should’ve had more time to observe the overall group dynamics and witness things first-hand. Sadly, shipping is not about objective thinking 99% of the time. Critical thinking is some shippers’ biggest enemy, I’m afraid. 

The reason for that is pretty simple: we don’t ship in order to think, we do it so that we can escape. By immersing and investing ourselves in other people’s love story, we receive an outlet for the possible negativity we may experience in our life and/or a way to feel things through other people that we can’t feel otherwise. 

Simply put: shiping is a fast way to second-hand gratification. 

At least that’s the way for a lot of shippers, especially young ones who are still developing critical thinking skills or are yet to experience real life love. 

All of this means that for a lot of people objective thinking is not a goal and can in fact hinder their shipping experience. When you ship, you become invested, you give up parts of your time and your own self and it can be hard to distance your own ideas of what’s true with reality. Hence why OTP doing something = proof (for some people, not all obviously) while nOTP doing the exact same thing = not proof. 

In exteme cases when something is very very hard to disprove, twisting up the facts may also come in hand to preserve the peace of mind 

(Jimin is Jungkook’s father if you haven’t heard)

The result of all of this is that instead for the “older” fans and shippers to be the  most objective, it becomes the opposite. Because they’ve been exposed to their ship and committed to it the longest, it’s harder for them to accept when things start to deter from their wishes. Especially when things looked so promising once but not anymore. 

This is why I think it’s a lot easier for new ARMYs to accept and like Jikook than for people who have been in the fandom for years and have fallen for other ships before. For newer ARMYs it’s easier to be objective (once they overcome the almost obligatory default ships state ofc) because they’re not biased yet and can see the group with somewhat clear eyes. They easily see Jimin and Jungkook are close because it’s very obvious when you’re not actively trying to overlook it.

So in a way you’re right. It’s understandable why it’s hard for a lot of “old” v/k shippers to acknowledge how much KM dynamics have evolved and how much closer (and questionable) they become every year. For a lot of them admitting this equals betrayal, not only to their ship but also to themselves and the time they’ve committed. Very few mature shippers of other ships ever talk about the evolution in Jikook’s dynamics even though it’s plain as day for everyone to see. It’s an uncomfortable truth. (and I’m not talking about them being real, only about their evolution)

I understand the reasons for it but I also don’t think that’s an excuse to forgive everything, for example the absurd “BH is hiding t/k by promoting Jikook” narrative. It’s okay to find it tough to switch lanes and no-one is making you but it’s not okay to completely abandon all logical thinking. It’s even worse when that’s combined with disgrading another pair’s relationship.

While shipping is for fun and mainly for our personal enjoyment, it’s good to keep a healthy and leveled grip on it in your own head. Especially when you become so invested that you start projecting your own ideas into the real members (which some v/k shippers do with this “Jimin is an attention-seeking hoe” widely spread nonsense).

Sticking with your ship through everything is fine but only as long as you remain respectful to everyone around and your position as representative of the group. If you go even a millimeter beyond that border, please take several steps back.

If you don’t ship light-heartedly but are instead committed strongly to your ship and are engaging in the fandom from that standpoint, keeping your critical thinking and staying mature is A MUST. Otherwise you may become detrimental to the fandom and the group. 

So no, I can’t forgive everything by dismissing it as a natural consequence of being “ship committed” for a long time. Especially when some of it could have terrible consequences for the members and BTS. What do you think fuels all the death threats Jimin is getting? 

Shipping is fun but it isn’t always harmless.