#spoiler for senti Adrien

[sleepysebris]

felix exuberating theater-kid energy nonstop this season just makes me imagine his pv chat noir design being a parody of adrien's chat noir

[theforbodingboglands]

Sooooo that infamous sentimonster theory amiright? 👀

[wackus-bonkus-maximus]

Even now, with his father lost to the universe, and not even a body to bury, Gabriel was still here. He was in his room, in all the belongings his money had bought, in all the clothes that bore his brand. He was in the Miraculous on Adrien’s hand, the twin rings hanging from a chain he could never remove, in all the words Ladybug refused to tell Chat Noir. And he was in the statue in the Place des Vosges, immortalized in gold, looking out at the city with serene contemplation, but never down at Adrien. Never again. “He was Monarque,” Adrien spoke into the darkness. Maybe Plagg could hear, maybe not. His Kwami was always good about knowing just what Adrien wanted him to know. “My father was Monarque.” His words hung hollow in the silence, their weight somehow growing heavier on Adrien’s chest as he spoke. The voice didn’t answer, keeping silent long enough for Adrien to wonder, once more, if he really had imagined it. Then it was there again, as close and clear as though its speaker was in the room with him. You’re Chat Noir, it told him firmly. Cataclysm his statue.

moonie i'm obsessed.

[heart-of-the-morningstar]

Everyone joking about Senti-Adrien in season 3 but then season 5 airs and it turns out it’s probably true

[marinetteplztakeabreak]

Im so in love with the narrative use of sentimonsters in ml???? And how it serves as a metaphor for parents who are Wrong??

You have Félix, who’s the most direct case of “parent thinks that having a child is like a little trophy and checkmark on the list and doesn’t want the child to actually be a person or exist or cause inconvenience.” His father literally didn’t see him as a person and based on the fact that he literally broke Félix’s miraculous he seemed to see Félix as either disposable or unbreakable. There was no sense that he needed to be loved or protected.

But then you also have Adrien, who Gabriel *theoretically* loves. I think Gabriel actually thinks that he loves Adrien as a person. But he has this idea that he can make Adrien happy through obedience alone. He thinks he can just order Adrien to be content or to have the same priorities as him. He calls Adrien melodramatic a few times even and it’s like???

Gabriel *theoretically* wants Adrien to be happy but it doesn’t cross his mind that it’s going to take more than him yelling “hey Adrien i order you to be calm and content.” And ordering Adrien to love the career Gabriel Chooses and love the girl Gabriel Chooses for him and the hobbies that Gabriel Chooses for him. And when that doesn’t work he decides that Adrien is just Beyond His Help and will be better only with his mom there.

And it’s like???? Very fun nuance with this idea of,,, you cannot yell or force someone into being happy,,, it doesn’t matter if you have their best interest in mind,,, if you never listen to what they actually want or see them as a human person then you’ll still be the villian in their story

And THEN!!!!! You have Kagami who’s a completely different case even though she starts with the same circumstance. Because Kagami IS treated like a person and has a good amount of autonomy. It’s just all Conditional. She can do whatever she wants with her life as long as its also exactly what her mother wants. And her mother doesn’t always explain why. And the thing with that is!!! It DOES work for a while!!!! She does trust her mother and actually talk to her about things. And she will defend her mother to the ends of the earth.

But all it takes is that One argument where kagami says “hey . please stop making me date adrien. i dont want to . its hurting me” and tomoe TAKES HER RING instead of listening. And its like. Thats IT.

It doesnt matter if you spent years making a foundation of trust in a relationship because Eventually your kid is Going to grow up and theyre Going to disagree with you on Something Eventually. Kagami was so ready to listen to whatever her mother had to say but her mom didn’t elaborate on anything she just basically said “okay if you wont listen without question you dont get to have autonomy” and of COURSE kagami’s gonna be like. Okay. Bye then.

And i just think it’s soooo cool how there’s these different Layers of “parents forgetting that their child is a person and not a tool for your own personal gain” and that ml shows how it can manifest in so many different ways and it shows that it messes ,up trust and relationships and then it also shows that the kids are all okay once they have love and support and someone who treats them as a person with autonomy

and theres this theme of “it is not too much to ask that you be treated like a human person . no matter how broken or how much of a disappointment you think you are. you are still in the right for demanding to be seen as a person.” And i just. I really love my senti kids i love them soooo much

this show really said “it doesnt matter what sacrifices your parents made for you, youll never be an object that they own” and i just,,, yessssss

[xxovercanyonmoonxx]

Why did they think it was okay to have the password Miraculous123? 😭💀

[ataraxianne]

I love how despite Gabriel was touching his ring so to control his son and make him believe he was right and he should listen to him, Adrien still rebelled and even had time to tell him his pancakes suck. Like, go on little Prince, tell him to fuck off

[billiejean485]

.... Well.

Looks like I'm leaving Miraculous for good.

Or at least until the whole SentiAdrien arc is out - which will probably take years.

This was my last hope.

Or... maybe my true last hope is that the arc won't end in a sh*tty way.

But I am really overall disappointed with the franchise. What was a promising great love story... turned into an overcomplicated mess.

I wish I never laid my eyes on this.... TV trash.

... And don't expect I'll be back with my fanfic in any near, or not that far future.

My heart is just done with this.

... Hurts like hell to lose one of your favorite TV charas.

... R.I.P... (human) Chat Noir. 😞

[exhausted-pathetic-bitch]

Chat Blanc 😭😭😭

thats why hes spiraling his emotion at that time 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[causalityparadoxes]

Colt used the Peacock to create Felix. Later he became sick from using it and died. Felix has 1 alive parent and is confirmed as a senti.

Emelie used the Peacock to create Adrien. She became sick and died. Adrien has 1 alive parent (for now lol) and is implied to be a senti

Kagami's father is never shown and iirc never mentioned. Kagami has 1 confirmed alive parent and is implied to be a senti.

Chloé's parents, Audrey and André, are both alive and accounted for.

Zoe's father 'Mr. Lee' has never been seen but was mentioned in Sole Crusher. So he's probably alive too.

Imo? Everyone who used the broken peacock miraculous is now dead. Zoe and Chloe probably arent sentis. And one of Tomoe's motives for helping Gabe is bringing back her spouse who died after using the Peacock miraculous.

[sleepysebris]

that's one way to find out @halfahelix brought up imagine adrien with the peacock and I didn't get very far with the rest of that thought cause this was the first horror to enter my brain after

[mangasstuffcomics]

Full thread about sentimonsters first Thomas astruc own words a sentimonster created to be human is human not a sentibeing not senti human just human Felix Adrien kagami are as real as any other human in the show just created. Magically instead of in the normal way

Sentimonsters can die of old age depending on what they are created to be

And Sentimonsters can get pregnant and or get someone pregnant

Because a sentimonster created to e human human Felix kagami Adrien are as human as ajy other character in the series

There could have been sentimonsters in ancient Greece

Just making this clear because of idiots trying to claim that Adrien Felix kagami aren't human or fake humans which no there as real as any other human in the series just more fragile

And the adrienette children from protection

Adding this from the mlb Bible

[wackus-bonkus-maximus]

Canon compliant twin telepathy au

MOONIE YOU ARE SO FUNNY FOR THIS THERE ARE LITERAL TEARS IN MY EYES

adrien thinking he's hearing voices when it's literally just felix trying to keep him alive i can't 💀💀💀 and yet it'd be felix who's stressed tf out about being in adrien's head, surrounded by all his intrusive thoughts 💀 meanwhile kagami's there like, "what's he saying" and felix is like "it's just white noise and marinette's face."

[heart-of-the-morningstar]

Stop it, Stop it, Stop it, STOP IT

Take your fingers off of the ring, Gabe

[escaping-thoughts-reviews]

They were so full of hope, they just wanted a baby. They had no idea what domino effect this wish was going to trigger.

And if Adrien ever finds out, he’ll surely feel responsible for his mother’s death.

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Let’s face it, after this scene the thoery is practically undeniable. Senti-Adrien confirmed. 99% sure.

This has to be the night they created Adrien. I mean, this scene is way too romantic for any other possibilities (doesn’t really scream “evil doers scheming evil things” to me).

[camelots-rose]

I just realized we could have had a better explanation for the Sentimonster stuff had the show not waste our time with so many, for a lack od better words, Chloe salt episodes or just didn't have episodes that don't add or change anything to the plot within the last two seasons.

Like no offense to Zoe I like her heck I even plan on using her in my own fics but she could have been replaced with Aurora leaving one episode free for Sentimonster stuff in S4

Then there's the bucket load of Chloe salt episodes in S5 plus Kwami's Choice that honestly could have been removed, and nothing of the plot would have changed.

Kwami's Choice 1&2

Derision

Adoration

Confrontation

Collusion

Revolution

Of course while a few Lila episodes get taken out in the process which could and would affect her involvement in the finale the show could have allow Lila to get the access codes to the Agreste mansion during retaliation which would have actually solved said problem caused by the removal.

Tldr: the show could have got rid of Eight Episodes to better expand upon the Sentimonster retcon/add-on if the writers so desperately wanted it