#ml sentimonster

[paracosmicat]

Gabriel didn’t just threaten to kill Felix, he actually attempted it.

With what we know now, putting the akuma in his ring was a death sentence.

If Felix hadn’t rejected the akuma then not only would Ladybug and Chat Noir have to break the ring but when they did they would have found both a feather and the akuma and WHO WANTS TO BET THEY WOULD HAVE HAD THE KNOWLEDGE TO NOT PURIFY BOTH.

Poor kid had to fight for his life, literally. We know how hard it is to reject the akumas but he didn’t have a choice, did he?

Also, consider this both proof that Gabriel was aware of this fact AND proof that Gabriel is just so so stupid..so stupid.

[jenny-fish]

SUPER SUPER EXCITED TO POST THIS BC I MADE THIS BACK IN LIKE JANUARY and felt too bad to post it until emotion was watchable in chronological order BUT here is Felix and (almost) every senti in all their glory!! 🦚💖💕💖💕

[masternia]

HE CALLED RED MOON HIS FUDGIN SENTIMONSTER HIS SISTER. SENTI SIBLINGSSSS ENOUGH. MY HEART CANNOT HANDLE THIS PAIN YALL. THAT WAS HIS SENTI SISTER :(((

[escaping-thoughts-reviews]

When Félix realises Kagami’s ring is an amok and she’s a senti like him.

[uptoolateart]

We can't take the sentimonster concept purely literally. It's very clear in scenes like this that it's a child-friendly allegory for the way a lot of parents have the wrong motivations for having children. There are plenty of adults out there who actively create beings only to mistreat them in exactly the ways Felix describes here. There are plenty of parents who view their kids as property they possess and therefore can control any way they like. In my experience, such parents forget that kids grow up - and that one day, they just might break away from that control.

[the-commonplace-book]

Can't stop thinking about how the miraculous literally gives Adrien his freedom. It's not just the liberation of being anonymous. He is literally freed from his father's control when he's transformed because even the other miraculouses don't recognize the holders when transformed.

Examples:

Passion when Safari can no longer find Ladybug and Chat Noir after they detransform and swap miraculouses

Emotion when Argos can't bring Marinette back because he Thanos snapped her away when she was transformed and the peacock miraculous doesn't recognize that Ladybug is Marinette

Pretension when Matagi Gozen loses the trail every time anyone transforms and has to track their transformed and detransformed scents separately

Meaning that when Adrien is transformed as Chat Noir, the amok ring theoretically wouldn't recognize him. Being Chat Noir is the only time Adrien is ever truly free.

We see the results of this even early on back in season 1 with Adrien being unable to leave his room after being given a direct order to stay there until he transforms. His rational is "Adrien is grounded, but Chat Noir isn't" really showing the way he rationalizes the mental blocks he has against defying his father when faced with a direct order. And he's right. Adrien is grounded, but Chat Noir isn't. Adrien is capable of being controlled by his amok, but Chat Noir isn't. Because the magic hides identities even from other miraculous holders and miraculous magic.

[the-glass-is-actually-full]

Adrien: You're my partner, my best friend, and the love of my life. I hope you know I would do anything for you. Absolutely anything. Marinette: I want you to disobey your father's orders. Adrien: Absolutely not.

[iwasbored777]

That sentimonster thing is by far the creepiest subject in this show. How surprised/scared Marinette and Adrien were when they knew something is wrong here but they don't know what.

[persephonenewton]

If you only knew.

Bonus:

(At the comic-con Natlalie is running in the Black Widow´s costume throughout the building because she lost two rich kids and doesn´t want to get fired.)

[sweetmeatdale]

Kagami’s Birthday is November 20th, Felix’s is December 2nd. Assuming that for the sentis that that’s the day they were created then they were made 12 days apart.

Also idk Adrien’s birthday, I’ve seen everything from September to March, so high likelihood on him being either the oldest or the youngest of the three.

[graaythekwami]

Chloe's Amok

So I kind of have a random theory on what Chloe's amok could be if she ends up being a senti like the other rich kids, and I'm thinking it is this bracelet:

Yes, I know Rogercop is way back from season one and that we haven't seen this bracelet since, but here me out.

Now how Chloe and Andre act this episode isn't anything new for their characters, but there are a few things I find slightly interesting. First of all Chloe isn't wearing the bracelet at all, but keeping in a special case. Chloe doesn't strike me as the type to keep something carefully tucked away when she could be wearing it and showing it off to the world. So why is she this time? Not that I think she would have told it was an amok, but I could totally see a conversation about how important this piece of jewelry is and how it is absolutely priceless before it was given to her.

Of course this is speculation, but what isn't is what we see in this episode. When Chloe shows the bracelet to Sabrina she goes to immediately grab it, suggesting that Chloe hasn't been against Sabrina touching her things in the past. Of course Chloe is rude in telling Sabrina not to do so, then we get this line from Andre:

"Put it away, Chloé! It could get in the wrong hands!"

I mean yes it probably is expensive, but so is every other thing Chloe owns? And I don't think it would be out of budget for Andre to buy Chloe another bracelet if something were to happen to it, and it is a bit strange to not let her wear her own jewelry.

Unless this isn't just a bracelet, but rather his daughter's life force that he doesn't want in the wrong hands or anyone to know about it because whoever holds it controls Chloe?

From here the bracelet goes missing thanks to a combination of Marinette tripping and Plagg, the blame immediately being put on Marinette, and being passed around the classroom from there. Again I don't think Chloe's insistence for Marinette being searched is surprising, or the mayor backing her up on this, but I do find it interesting that Andre doesn't try to placate Chloe at all like he usually does when she starts making demands. There's no "Chloe dear" or "My little princess", but immediately Andre is trying to get Roger to do some illegal searches on a teenager.

Of course Roger is then also immediately fired over something that has no relation to his job (there's no actual proof the bracelet was stolen instead of just being missing at this point!). And there's no pressure by Chloe to have Roger fired, Andre does this to someone very loyal to him on his own accord.

Later Andre also tries to have Nino's phone taken so the video can be reviewed by professionals as they try to track down this bracelet thief. He's wasting no resources or power plays here to find the bracelet, and also goes after the principal of the school as well:

"I'm warning you! If you don't find my daughter's bracelet by this evening, I'll cut off all your city funds for the school. Understood?"

I mean him throwing around his power as mayor isn't anything new... but why not buy a new bracelet at this point instead of targeting everyone who isn't involved? And like before there is no influence or demand from Chloe at this point for Andre to keep this all up, but he's not letting up about this missing bracelet.

We also get this interaction between Andre and Roger too when he's fired:

"Mayor, you can't be serious! Over a missing bracelet?" "This is my daughter's bracelet we're talking about!"

Your daughter's bracelet? Or perhaps your daughter's life force?

Again, this attitude and demands is in no way strange for the Bourgeois family, rather I just find all the details in between this interesting, and that it could be implying that this bracelet is something more than just a regular piece of jewelry.

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Now for the other major reason I think this could be Chloe's amok (or at least something more than just an average bracelet): Plagg's interaction with this bracelet.

Now I don't think Plagg can sense amoks or would know that an object is one, but I don't think it would be out of reason for him to notice something about it. He's a magical being, or why shouldn't he have a response for other magical things?

Plagg immediately takes a liking to this bracelet, at first thinking it was cheese. Upon discovering that it isn't cheese though, he isn't too disappointed (Plagg. Not upset about not getting any Camembert when he thought he was??). He also gets pretty reckless by not only staying in Chloe's bag, but throwing the bracelet up into the air where it could have been seen by others. Now Plagg isn't exactly the most responsible, but he's also not stupid, so I thought this was worth noting. (Especially by him not being mad it wasn't cheese. Personally I think Plagg would be really upset to find there was no cheese.)

Then of course this is where the bracelet gets lost, with Plagg stuck inside of it, and Adrien smuggles him away. And Plagg is stuck in the bracelet. The kwami is stuck. The kwami is stuck inside of an object when they can phase through any solid material. It's not like Plagg is under any orders not to phase through bracelets, and yet he is still stuck!

I'm sure we've all wondered why Plagg doesn't just phase out of it before, and we've never given a reason.

So... what if magic has something to do with it? Like there isn't any canon that we have that states kwamis can't phase through certain things, but if it was going to be anything I think a magical object created by another kwami's powers that's hosting someone's life force fits the bill.

Then finally, we get this bit of information:

"What do you mean I can't transform?" "If you transform, the bracelet will get absorbed with me and damage your powers!"

This is a bit of canon lore that we never hear of or see come into play again. We've seen transformations happen with kwamis in pockets, bags, hidden away, in another room, having a piece of food in their paws: but never has any of these physical objects with the kwamis or them standing between them and their Miraculous ever stopped a transformation, get transformed with them, or damage their powers in any form. Either Plagg was lying about this fact, or this bracelet had properties that were different from everyday objects that could impact magical transformations.

And honestly, a Miraculous and an amok aren't too different from each other. They're both an object that gives a magical being a physical form, allows them to be controlled, and can grant powers. While unification between kwamis exist, maybe them merging with other magical entities is in fact dangerous?

And we have seen interesting properties between amoks and transformations in canon. We have seen Gabriel transformed while giving orders to Adrien, and touch right where the amok ring would be even though it clearly isn't there or under the glove. Even if it isn't physically present it still exists in some form when a human transforms while wearing an amok, and the magic that binds the sentis to orders is still there.

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As for why we never see the bracelet again? I imagine Andre thought it was way too dangerous to let Chloe have her own amok after everything that happened during Rogercop, and took it back to keep it safe once more.

[almadesarrollo]

MLB MARINETTE SENTISER!!! no no I'm not crying, SHORT THEORY ABOUT S6,7,8….

ok…while I analyze Jeremy Zag, I discover other clues that left me frozen…

ok you remember this right?

It is from Robostus, this is not a coincidence, it is put there for a reason AND LESS A PHRASE LIKE THAT.

Now let's think about the 3 sentisers that steal the show, the most important of which are: FÉLIX, ADRIEN AND KAGAMI.

so think about this for a moment what if one of the three made that wish? THINK ABOUT IT…

Who would ask for it? Logically, if we think about it, it would be Adrien, because Félix has already agreed to this idea, he knows what it is and accepts it, kagami also thanks to Félix, who could react like that? When Adrien finds out, I mean it would HURT him to accept the idea that his life depends on an object and that with one click he could DIE.

Of course, thinking about all the things that Marinette hides from him and he finds out about it, which is no small thing, then he would make that wish and because of that rule of three, who would pay the price, MARINETTE!!!! MARINETTE COULD LOSE HER HUMANITY,

NOTE THAT THERE IS A PATTERN THAT IS REPEATED, AND IT IS that Marinette always loses her earrings in the same way, Adrien is involved in this, Marinette is always looking out for him, could Adrien take off his earrings?

This issue is strong, that would justify why in the future Argos will protect Marinette so much because he is literally a sentiser, so that piece fits in the pretension chapter, we know that Tomoe controls Kagami, now think about what if these are actually Marinette and Kagami and if Kagami controls Marinete, and in the future, Argos frees her and that's why he says he knows her but she doesn't know him because if he controls he can order her to forget certain things, whoever has the amok has control of the I felt, we all know that…

look what marinette's diary says precisely in the shadybug and clawnoir special,

That example again!!! In the special it is implied that they, the bad guys, are sick or something like that,

the mirror is broken, mirror is the symbology of kagami, kagami is sentiser ,MARINETTE IS SENTISER!!!! MARINETTE WILL BE SORRY AND HER AMOK WILL BE BROKEN…HER LIFE IS IN DANGER!!!!.

I have to leave it here because this post is short, but I will definitely develop this theory later… in more detail…

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See you in the next post.

[motherofplatypus]

Losing my mind with the idea of Adrien accidentally giving himself an order with the ring. Imagine him being bored and twisting the ring while saying "I wish I could fly" and he start flapping like Gabe did in season 1.

[felinetteagain]

Argos is the liberator of people from monsters in ancient Greek mythology. According to the classic version of the myth, Hera turned Argos into a peacock.

Argos (Felix), liberator of sentimonsters, or bad cousin? Or maybe both? Let’s look at it in more detail. Felix’s first appearance in Miraculous raised a barrage of questions. Who is Felix? It turned out to be Adrien’s cousin. Gloomy, mean, but at the same time strong, smart, dexterous.

Why did he need to mock Adrian like that? We got the answer, he was just jealous that Adrian had friends and freedom. But even his words that he would improve and become better, of course, did not convince me that his envy had passed and he had become better.

Here, I think, the process of his creation affects (he was created out of jealousy).

He steals from Gabriel one of the rings that Gabriel used to control Adrian. Why did he do that? Amelie asked Gabriel to return her family heirloom. For Felix, everything his loved one wants is the law! And he will definitely do everything for his mother.

In the episodes "Gabriel Agreste" and "Risk", Felix comes up with a plan to kidnap the miraculous peacock, which is vital to him. Felix appears in Adrian's room and offers to switch places with him, thereby doing Adrian a favor.

Taking advantage of Adrian's naivety, who doesn't even understand why Felix needed such an exchange, Felix steals a fake miraculous peacock.

The freedom promised to Adrian remained in question, since Felix, having achieved his goal, forgot about the exchange and went to his home.

What prevented Felix from not only not giving Gabriel the ring, but also taking the second ring from him in order to free Adrien from his father’s control? After all, exchanging the miraculous peacock for the rest of the talismans would have suited Gabriel quite well.

Who do we see in the episode "Emotion"? Unexpectedly loving cousin Felix or Argos - protector and liberator of sentimonsters?

I assume the second option, since Felix has not been able to prove himself a good cousin. But Argos really cares about his Senti brothers and sisters. Because he understands their sad fate and does everything possible to help any Sentimonster.

To summarize, I want to say that I do not believe in Felix’s sincere love for his cousin Adrien. Felix will always think of his own interests first, but is always ready to protect his own kind.

For those who believe that Felix cared for Adrien by dancing with Marinette and protecting her from the light of the red moon. Are you sure that he did this for Adrien?

[nathalieswiftie13]

Hot take

The whole adrien is a sentimonster storyline is only a thing cuz the fan theory is so popular and the show wanna give us a fan serves. Don't believe me just watch miracular adrien doesn't go crazy after getting cataclysm like how senties usually are according to the lore. And in the early season gabriel doesn't use a ring on adrien every 5 second unlike in s4 onward. So yeah that's my reasoning to believe that the show don't plan the senti adrien plot from the start.

And i still don't get why they made kagami a senti monster?

[deimalor]

Runaway cat 🐈