#still it's funny to think that spamton is just Divorced with everyone

[manofthepipis]

Happy pride Mo :D! A silly question I thought of but do the Addisons have canon sexuality’s in your mind? Like Clicks, Survey, Sponsor and Banner? (All we know is that Spamton is canonically pan because of the sweepstakes lol) if not, that’s fine too!

aaaaaa happy pride to you too!!! :D one of the best months of the year!!

also i love this question, even if i haven't put too much thought in it lol. truthfully i'd like for readers to interpret them however they like, and i'd love to hear interpretations! gender is so vast in the dark world (with characters like seam using no pronouns and swatch confirmed using they/he also in the sweepstakes) and i love it

the adds prioritize their business and sales above relationships in general, but then again i'd feel like they think they're fun

[mar64ds]

aro ace jevil??? he's green and purple!!

he sure is!! I headcanon jevil as ace and greyromantic

I don't think Jevil is interested in kissing or things like that, unless it's funny bugs bunny style, but for genuine affection i don't think he really wants that. He is okay with hugs, cuddling or holding hands, in fact he loves it, he is going to hug everyone and put a funny sign on their backs

When it comes to greyromantic, I think jevil sometimes feels romantic attraction, but it has only happened two or three times in his life and sometimes that attraction is very close to platonic or simply not a very strong romantic attraction or at least, it's different from how alloromantics feel romantic attraction. For example, I think he liked Spamton! I also think their relationship wasn't very conventional, Jevil doesn't really follow typical romantic relationship rules, and this doesn't mean they didn't like each other any less, for a while they were happy! You know, it ended on break-up/divorce, but it was a fun relationship and I like to think Jevil still thinks Spamton is cool, it's only Spamton that has any resentment because he is Spamton and he has a lot of issues antagonizing people (and I hope it's clear that Spamton only has resentment over Jevil being a funny little guy, not because he was aspec)

Of course I also see Seam as aromantic and I think Seam and Jevil's relationship is incredibly aspec, what kind of relationship are they supposed to have? No idea, they don't care, they are companions. They bond over their aspec identities, there aren't that many aspec people around them and sometimes that's isolating and you feel misunderstood, but they understand each other really well!

Jevil makes fun of romantic gestures a lot, if he watches a movie with a boring romance B plot he is going to talk over the movie and make jokes about it, if he sees a couple when he is taking a walk he is going to be annoying and prank them. Sometimes aros need to be mean and not try to constantly justify ourselves and reassure everyone that 'we dont hate romance its just not for us we are not saying romance is bad-', jevil IS going to say romance is annoying and then bother you for it, he is the aro representation we all need

[agentravensong]

Please can you elaborate the thing of how Jevil and Spamton are made to be essentially au sans to appeal to the fandom by Gaster?

Of course, Anon! Sorry this took me a few days to answer, it has been A Weekend.

[this is the post anon is asking me to elaborate on]

Firstly, as far as Gaster generally trying to appeal to the fandom is concerned, I think the first half of this post by @determinators pretty succinctly sums up all the evidence that Gaster has been reaching out to UnderTale fans (those who completed the True Pacifist ending specifically) to be his "partners"/"subjects" in this "experiment".

And if he's trying to draw such targets to his creation, to make them happy and keep them playing... doesn't it make sense that he'd try to force the inclusion of at least one character who is similar to UT's most popular character?

Which isn't to say that Jevil and Spamton are AU Sans-es in the sense that they started out as versions of Sans that became so divorced from him that they became different characters. Rather, Gaster took two pre-existing Darkners and tried to make them as much like UT!Sans as he could, to the point of breaking them with knowledge they couldn't stand.

(putting the actual comparison of these three characters under a read more for your dash's sake)

Now, why is Sans UT's most popular character? What are the major traits that seem to draw people to him? I propose the following:

He's a friendly, funny little man... who will also scare the shit out of you, sometimes for no good reason.

He's surprisingly powerful in a specific context and the hardest boss in the game.

He has meta knowledge to a larger extent than most of the cast, or at least makes his knowledge more explicit.

And the combination of that meta-knowledge and his unknown connection to UT's long gone Gaster give him a mysterious, angsty layer to his backstory.

Plus, he's associated with one of the best songs in the OST (even if it isn't really his theme)

There are other likely factors, like him being relatively easy to draw and his potential relatability to similarly meme-loving low-key depressed fans, but I'm gonna focus on the ones in the list, for reasons that are about to become clear. Let's start the comparisons.

First up, Jevil.

Funny little man? Check. Maybe not friendly, but certainly jovial. And he's scary, though not exactly in the Sans way.

He's the hardest boss of Chapter 1, arguably even harder than Spamton.

Whether the "strange man" (Gaster) straight-up told Jevil the world of DeltaRune is a game, or Jevil just interpreted what he said in the only context he could comprehend (he is a playing card, after all), he's clearly more aware of the greater truth of this world, whatever that may be, than almost everyone else. He even predicts Chapter 2 in his defeat-via-fighting dialogue.

* SOON, THE "QUEEN" RETURNS, AND HELL'S ROAR BUBBLES FROM THE DEPTHS.

The angsty backstory factor is the point where Jevil differs the most and least from Sans. They're similar in that their reaction to the weight of the meta knowledge they held (resets for Sans, the truth of the world for Jevil) was apathy. But where Sans's apathy made him passive, Jevil's gave him permission to do whatever he wants, no matter how it affects others. As a consequence, Jevil has a lower angst factor. Yes, he was sealed away by his friend, but Seam seems to bear the emotional weight of that more than he does.

The World Revolving? A banger.

There's also the bonus point that, like Sans, you beat Jevil by tiring him out. Oh, and they both wear slippers, for whatever that's worth.

Then, there's Spamton. Good old Spamton G. Spamton.

Funny little man? Check. He certainly tries to be friendly. Success rate on that? Debatable. And he's got the creepy factor; still not quite the same as Sans's, but closer.

He's the second hardest boss in the game, first place obviously going to... the teacups. In fact, he shares an extra point of similarity with Sans by being the final boss of Chapter's 2 "evil route".

While Spamton's knowledge may not technically be "meta" in the same sense as Sans's, he clearly shares Jevil's level of knowledge about the true nature of DeltaRune's world.

And while he's the opposite of apathetic in the face of this knowledge - at least once Kris comes along and gives him hope - he's got angst in spades (heh). Toby even lined up some NPCs to give us his backstory, New Home style. But there's also a bunch of gaps in our knowledge (like, who's Mike?) that are ripe for theorizing.

Both of Spamton's battle themes? Bangers.

And I've got some bonus points for y'all too.

They're both lying shopkeepers - Spamton with everything but the KeyGen, Sans with the fried snow you can't actually buy and the hot dogs that are actually water sausages

They both use cyan attacks/projectiles - Spamton Neo's heads, even if they don't function the same way cyan magic does in UT, and Sans's bones

They both have a "yellow eye" - Spamton's glasses are pink and yellow, and Sans's eye during the no mercy fight flashes cyan and yellow. ...Actually, I'm pretty sure Jevil has yellow pupils too, so mark that down as a similarity for all three of them.

Obviously, Spamton also has some strong connections to Mettaton, and at this point I'm expecting that the future secret bosses will also be equally direct UT callbacks in one way or another. But the idea of taking Sans and giving him traits of other UT characters is something the fandom itself has engaged in, to varying levels of problematic-ness, so it seems like the next logical step for Gaster to take too on his quest to create the Ultimate Fan Favorite Character.

Before I close out here, let me address your other ask:

[Image description: a screenshot of an ask from an anonymous user reading, "There’s also a theory of how Jevil and Spamton were meant to be Ralseis aka to be party members given how they both know game mechanics and can heal but failed and got scrapped."]

I've definitely seen that theory around, specifically with Jevil and Spamton having been intended to be tutorial characters only to be discarded because Gaster decided it would be better for his OC to be closer to Asriel than Flowey.

I think it has merit. The healing via ACTs point in particular - that's one trait I can't see any crossover with Sans with.

But tutorial-izing game mechanics post the player already experiencing them, like Jevil does ("WHEN YOUR HP DROPS TO 0, YOU LOSE!")? Sans does that too, with about as much effectiveness.

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And let's not forget one of his most famous scenes: the judgement in the Last Corridor, where he gives the full explanation of EXP and LV.

I'm more than willing to believe that Ralsei wasn't the original third party member, the Darkner representative among the heroes (assuming he didn't lie about that too), and that he's partly the way he is because he's meant to be UT!Asriel II, to mirror what Gaster assumes we liked about the goat boy.

But if we're looking at who Jevil and Spamton have more in common with, especially with the roles they actually end up playing in-game, I think tying the two of them back to Sans makes a lot more sense.

Now, some of you might be expecting me to end this post with a prediction that Sans, who many have speculated to be a Darkner himself, will be the final secret boss. And to that I say: no. He's had his moment. Let him be Just Some Guy. Please.

(If you want my actual (but still mostly joking) final secret boss prediction:

What if, when Asriel comes home in Chapter 7 (assuming the game doesn't just end there, which I frankly wouldn't put past Toby), he says he was having a really hard time in college, but he was able to get through it thanks to a friend. A friend who reassured him that the difficulties he was facing weren't really that big a deal. After all, they aren't even real. How freeing it was to hear, Asriel says. And he's been waiting to share this epiphany with Kris. He knows they need it. Perhaps more than anyone. Cue boss fight, with Kris fighting alongside Asriel's new college friends who came to visit his family and did not sign up for this: Chara and Frisk :)

...yeah, that won't happen. and it probably shouldn't.)

Anyway. In summary, Gaster has been trying to make the Next Great Tumblr Sexyman based on how the fandom reacted to Sans. And considering how Spamton has passed that test with flying colors, I can only wonder what the rest of the Meta Aware Manlet Brigade will be like.

[deltarunerambling]

i just read about you AU and i have a few questions, you say that everybody was happy, so, asgore is back with toriel or now hes okay with being single? and about spamton and jevil, are they like, literal uncles? are they the brothers of asgore or the brothers of toriel? if thats the case, are they adopted? how is rudy now? is he healthy again? what about dess? is she now back and okay? does monsterkid finally have arms?

okay so lemme answer each of the questions:

1.no asgore isnt back with toriel,but he actually got over it and now think about being with rudy

2.not Litteral uncle,somehow in this universe toriel trust them in watching over kris sometime.(i do have an explaination for that but i am lazy)(also because it just sound funny as shit)(jevil and spamton are married,why? because its my AU and i get to decide which ship get to go)

3.just like said earlier,however seam is the adoptive brother of toriel in this AU,why?because 1.that sound even more funnier and so like when toriel is like "god i need someone to take care of kris" and seam is like "oh dont worry i know someone" and turn out its jevil and 2. its to make reference to the fact that toriel's batle theme was supposed to be calle "joker battle"

4.rudy is still sick BUT he is getting WAYYY better than whatever the state of danger he is rn,(so then he could be happy with asgore)(he also got a divorce but dont worry,noelle mother is way less strict than what she is supposed to be)

5.i havent had anything planned for dess,as we arent even 100 percent sure on her fate and what happened,if she just happened to have gotten to colledge then she is still there,if she DID die then in this AU she is still alive.but rn i cant post much about that

6.no,monster kid is as armless as he was

(when i said everyone was happy 100 percent i didnt meant litterally,we could say that its just that MANY of the problem got cleared and all)