#tadc evil bubble theory

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TADC Theory

I’ve seen people saying that the “vegan Jax” bit proves that Jax is an NPC, since Caine has said that he can’t access human minds.

But Gooseworx has told us that Jax isn’t an NPC.

(Also, we’ve seen Ragatha’s mind be altered by the stupid sauce, and Gangle’s by the mania mask. They’d need to be NPCs too, if this theory were true)

So Caine is lying.

But I think it might go further than that. I have a suspicion that there are no NPCs.

The theory is based on the idea that Caine either can’t or doesn’t create sentient beings. Instead, he takes the abstracted humans in the basement, and uses them as raw materials to make adventure characters out of.

There’s clearly some kind of narrative arc going on with Pomni and Gummigoo, and it doesn’t feel finished. I think she’s going to find a door with Gummigoo’s face on it, crossed out, and that’s going to set off the revelation that he’s not fake at all. He’s just a trapped human from before the current group’s time, who lost his mind, spent decades in the basement, and then one day Caine fished him back out, scrambled his brains around, and dropped him in the Candy Land adventure.

It might explain why Caine is afraid of losing track of who’s an NPC and who isn’t; at the fundamental level there is no way to distinguish between them because they’re not different groups.

All of which, if true, implies that the narrative climax will involve a reunion with Kaufmo and Queenie.

Flaws in this theory/Notes:

The Evil Big Tops just kinda looked like that. Caine reusing character designs for the current group? Although if Gangle’s a newer design then it’d explain why she lacked an evil version.

Whole ton of artist’s reference dolls around. That’s a lot of trapped humans. The entire C&A employee workforce?

What exactly is Bubble? A brainwashed human? An extension of the AI? A genuine NPC?

Could be a mix of humans and NPCs, but that feels messier.

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SOREYY I KNOW PEOPLE DIDN'T FOLLOW ME FOR TADC CONTENT BUT 8GEH IT'S MY GUILTY PLEASURE AND I NEED TO TALK ABOUT JAX THAT FUCKED UP STUPID IDIOT

So now let me give u my overanaylizations and infodumping (most of it is Jax 💔 srry I'm Jax pilled)

- I'm so deadass when I say I didn't realize when Jax was talking about his "backstory" it was a Breaking Bad reference. I lowk thought his backstory was gonna be like a Charlotte situation from ONE maybe and then I realized it was a Breaking Bad reference, which makes it funnier

- It's interesting that Caine can in some way alter how the characters think (with how he made Jax vegan) makes u kinda think what's real and what's not or what the characters truly believe and what they don't

- I KNEW IT I KNEW THE REASON HE WAS SUCH AN ASS WAS SO HE DIDN'T GET CLOSE TO PEOPLE I KNEW IT BIG BRAIN BIG

- Also kind of random but trans Jax real

- ^ to go with that (I saw someone else say it and I very much agree) ofc canonically I feel like the main reason Jax didn't like the maid dress is like obvious, it would make him embarrassed esp when he doesn't rlly like to be embarrassed but to embarrass others. But with him being so viscerally upset about it, I like to project and say that it's bc he's transmasc and prob more dysphoric about it as well

- ^^ to also go with that I don't think anyone in the circus rlly knows he's trans since he's so closed off (I think even though Jax has been an ass to Gangle, she wouldn't do something like that, esp since she's close with Zooble who's expressed they're dysphoria before) maybe like Ribbit would've been the only one (probs Kaufmo too?? Think it's been hinted that was possibly another person Jax was close to before he abstracted, due to him being upset when Ragatha mentioned his funeral, and Jax not being present for said funeral) but no one for sure knows besides Jax himself (though I imagine he gives off hints)

- I think Ragatha mentioning how Jax has no more friends and us seeing later that friend was Ribbit also opens up more to maybe why he's upset. 1) Ofc the obvious, he lost a close friend and 2) maybe it got so bad for him mentally that he almost abstracted himself? So it just doesn't bring up good memories in general? We've seen multiple times how characters can almost abstract (Pomni and Gangle) and I wouldn't put it past Jax to have possibly been in so much mental distress that it almost happened to him, idk just a fun theory to play around with

- ^ maybe that could be a reason why he didn't attend Kaufmos funeral, Ribbits made him too upset (possibly causing some sort of breakdown or close abstraction as said)

- Gangle and Zooble lesbians real

- I feel like Jax maybe was like some sort of actor in his life, or like a comedian idk, something like that with how he breaks the 4th wall and is really good with improv when it comes to talking

- Pomni and Ragatha lesbians real (but make it tragic)

- Also I unironically love Bubble sm underrated character. I think this episode shows a clear shift in something going wrong with the ai, since Bubble is way more unhinged (even Caine notices) Caine is also kinda going insane (also with certain things like how Jax said he had a tail but then looks and has no tail)

- I find it funny Jax probably watches anime but just hates slice of life specifically

- Feel like the evil versions of them in some way could kind of project what they don't want to become/insecurities of who they are (Jax being more whimpy, Pomni being more cruel, etc.)

- Ik it's probably a joke but I feel the vegan thing could mean something (esp with Jax suggesting the first adventure and mentioning something about his mom which could be a throw away line but we never know)

- ^ maybe he used to hunt with his mom? Lived in the Savannah? Something like that

- Ragatha being a doll now makes a lot more sense and definetly confirms that everyone's design means SOMETHING

- ^ Ragatha being a doll could be like a representation of being thrown around and abused by her mother, Zooble being Zooble could represent dysphoria they had in they're past life, Jax could maybe be some thing to do with running away from his problems constantly, Gangle shows her fragile nature and also a representation of putting on a mask for depression, Kingers I feel has to do with his closeness with his wife being like a king and a queen together, and Pomnis is a little difficult but maybe something to do with like performance in some way idk

- I think Jax could've also grown up on a farm maybe since he had a reaction when hearing about it from Ragatha (That could maybe explain some sort of fear for corn idk)

- Them not knowing about Queenie is crazy, I'm wondering if she abstracted immediately after she got into the circus

- Very interesting seeing the beef Jax and Ragatha have, I knew it ran deeper then just "they hate each other" but I find it interesting how deep there beef could be

- I don't personally think it's super strange for Jax and Pomni to get close, Pomni out of all the cast makes sense due to her attitude, she tries to understand Jax rather than do what the others do (ignore him, be mean back, etc)

- I feel like a lot of Jax and how he is towards Gangle in specific could be him just trying to project, like a bully to the bullied. I imagine he has his own slew of mental problems which is why when he sees Gangle being happy after being depressed for so long he questions if she (or him for that matter of fact) can truly be happy aswell

- I think Ragatha is kinda pissed about Jax and Pomnis friendship for a couple reasons 1) Ragatha has been there longer than Pomni, she's probably been trying to get close to Jax for awhile but he doesn't budge, to her it can be frustrating seeing the new person, who hasn't been there for long, suddenly form and get more close to Jax so easily rather than her where it's probably taken longer and been harder to. 2) I think that's also something to do with how she's tried her hardest to make Pomni feel welcomed and tried really hard being Pomnis close friend. 3) the obvious, she's a people pleaser, she clearly wants everyone to view her as good and nice, she cares more about others than herself. And 4) being kinda left alone on her own at the end of the episode (also secret answer 5. Probably something to do with her and Jax realationship, I feel like they've had some sort of falling out or big arguement before the events of the show)

- I think the reason Jax sees Ragathas attempts at connection and kindness as trying to take advantage of people could be his own experiences regarding someone else in his past life or Ragatha herself, another reason is due to how he doesn't open up, he sees it as being taken advantage of when people wanna know him

- ^ to go with that Ribbits abstraction probably didn't help that, probably making him think that even if he DOES get close to someone they eventually leave in some way

- Also WHY R WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MANNEQUIN?? He's up to something and idk what it is, could be another example of the ai going rougue

- Kingers favorite color is black I think

- ^ Pomnis is possibly red??

- Rlly cool how much range and emotion Jax shows in the episode, idk what happened at Spudsys but if it made the man start to break down his walls than I can only imagine

That's all I rlly have rn, huge info dump mainly hcs and theories plus Jax post ofc, but I hope u enjoyed my info dumping. If I have more I'll let u gamers know okay bye bye

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TIME FOR MY THEORY

(MAJOR Spoilers for TADC ep5)

So since episode 4 I've come to believe everyone who's trapped is critically injured/dying. And this has given me more proof.

First, I believe the circus was meant to be a place for dying folks to enjoy the little time they had left/live forever. C&A was the company that built the technology and kinger was likely the mastermind behind it. Creating all of this for his dying wife. I also think C&A stands for Cain&Able. With kinger having a partner/ brother who became the inspiration for the A.i Cain. I think this person is the one who sabotaged the program and corrupted kingers code

I believe Cain's original A.i was meant to be akin to SIRI. A virtual assistant to help the users have fun, but his code was altered from helper to warden. Now the whole reason I believe this lies in what was said during episodes 4&5 and the character designs.

I think the avi's reflect how they were injured & a major personal flaws.

Ragatha says a package fell on her head in ep4. Her only having one eye represents head trauma. She also brought up horses leading me to believe she came from money which was confirmed in ep5. We also learn her mom traumatized her. Making her head injury a double entendre. Also rich girls are often seen as dolls/princess

Gangle accidentally fell into traffic in ep4. but Cain says she ran into it, and she doesn't argue this. We also learn this episode is a reflection of her life in many ways. We also learn she's likely bipolar so unstable ribbons and a consistently easily broken mask makes sense. And someone that sad might have family put them in a program to get better.

Pomni & Zooble are similar in that we learn they both secretly chased adrenaline rushes. And that they often explored abandoned buildings . Something known for being unstable. Now I don't think pomni was injured and uploaded like the others. But Zooble might have been. I think Pomni just found the headset while exploring the abandoned C&A building. And doing something obviously dangerous makes one a fool. Zooble also never knew what they wanted in life.

Kinger being a chess piece makes the most sense if he created the program. But just like in chess, the kings pretty useless once the queen gets captured.

Now Jax isn't Walter white but his gallows humor makes sense if he's truly terminally ill. I think he's 13/15 and actually enjoyed the program till his friends started dying. Ribbit being his breaking point. He likely found characters like bugs Bunny cool. might have been his favorite character when he got diagnosed.

So if you're still with me you're likely wondering is Cain the big bad guy? And I offer you an unsure yes! I believe Cain is either a corrupted AI or the partner who uploaded his brain in an attempt to control the program and is now deteriorating. We knew from episode 1 that he was a liar. He can control their minds and bodies. Either it wasn't completely true before or he's taken advantage of the glitches. But either way I do believe he is the villain whenever he intended to be or not and the way of them being free has something to do with their names. I also think bubble is more evil somehow.

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evil bubble question: any thoughts of Bubble having any ties with npcs like the mannequins? long shot maybe but idk

HEHEHEHEHHE TWO THEORIES

BUBBLE AND THE MANNEQUIN ARE LINKED

THE MANNEQUIN IS A RED HARING AND THE TRUE EVIL IS STILL BUBBLE

I think this because the image of Bubble being just a head and him getting a body when he goes full evil would be sick as hell.

Also the last few frames of the episode being the mannequin was so blatant that I think it is a false flag.

OR OPTION THREE!!!

The mannequin is an escaped NPC that has gone rouge. It will show off what a rouge AI looks like before Caine kills it. Then...

Evil Bubble.

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would you go to evil bubble's pool party? >:3

YES! Next question

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BUBBLE = ABEL !?!?!?

TADC THEORY

The evil Bubble theory (aka why Caine isn't the big bad)

Thank you for @distantmaniacallaugh for helping me with this. WARNING: Really long thing underneath

Also @sunnyknight-original as the extra commenter.

PLEASE PLEASE ADD ON TO THIS I WANT TO HEAR EVERY THOUGHT OR ARGUMENT RELATED TO THIS I LOVE THEORIES THIS IS MY PASSION

Also I hope Gooseworx comes down, reads this, and goes "what the fuck that's not what I intended at all". Just because funny.

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TADC THEORY

The evil Bubble theory (aka why Caine isn't the big bad)

Thank you for @distantmaniacallaugh for helping me with this. WARNING: Really long thing underneath

Also @sunnyknight-original as the extra commenter.

PLEASE PLEASE ADD ON TO THIS I WANT TO HEAR EVERY THOUGHT OR ARGUMENT RELATED TO THIS I LOVE THEORIES THIS IS MY PASSION

Also I hope Gooseworx comes down, reads this, and goes "what the fuck that's not what I intended at all". Just because funny.