#thats why i feel it appeals to people who generally don't listen to a lot of black metal or are unfamiliar with all its sonic textures

[sendmyresignation]

Sorry this is coming a bit late but I really wanted to know what you didn’t like in blackgaze? I just gave Sunbather a listen and I also disliked some elements but I’m having a hard time verbalising which and you’re usually very good at describing sounds imo

sorry i just saw this anon! ofc i can share :)

in general, a lot of the current blackgaze just uses less black metal than it is using specific elements of the genre to elevate the "wall of noise" of shoegaze (particular scream quality and blast-beats) and build out the soundscape more. i personally am uninterested in the attempt itself and find the result starts encroaching on that post-rock uniformity i feel loses a lot of variety. black metal and shoegaze are both "samey" genres too but there's a particular abrasiveness in both i feel gets lost in sunbather and other contemporary projects influenced by it? it might honestly be a production thing too- I find sunbather really "unheavy" bc occupies this uncanny valley of replicating lofi bm techniques (buried vocals, for instance) in a very polished, shimmery, technical sound. in general, genre crossovers have a greater propensity for falling flat because it often seems like they leave behind the wrong elements from one or both genres and i really think blackgaze doesnt "get" black metal or what is interesting about it imo

[s1i9d]

I hope you don't mind, but now that I've finally found someone who's listening to Magnus Protocol but hasn't listened to Magnus Archives I will be studying you like a bug under a magnifying glass. I've been dying to know how the show hits from a non archives perspective. So in that vein, if you don't mind me questioning you, what are your overall thoughts on the show so far? Also what's it like seeing the fandom response from people who have listened to archives? Have you been successful in avoiding spoilers?

Honestly I’ve been loving Protocol.

I’m not 100% sure what to translate since I don’t know what Archives context I’m missing, but I can try to tell you what I really like about Protocol.

I really do love the format of Protocol. It’s mostly an office drama story, which on its own is appealing, but the statements from FR3-D1 put in each episode gives the story this underlying horror aspect to it. So when I listen to an episode, often times if the statement portion feels lacking, the office drama really brings up the episode and the vice versa.

Then things start to get a lot more creepier when the two intersect (The Magnus Institute, Mr. Bonzo, Lady Mowbray, the Drowning Victim, the Archivist, etc.) and by this point in the story, we’re so close to having a full merge.

Since this is my first real dive into horror podcasts, I do want to engage with the fan community, but it’s hard to balance being spoiler-free at the same time. I do know some general spoilers that I haven’t updated in a while, but is mostly still accurate. I don’t know what an Archivist is, but I am aware that AU versions of Archives characters have made their debut here.

I am aware that Protocol is going a lot faster than Archives. From what I understand of Archives, it has a lot more slow build up rather than Protocol which I has a pretty good pace. Might be because Protocol has less than half the episodes as Archives.

It’s really interesting how the fandom keeps losing their minds over stuff that I’m just like “yeah cool let’s see where that goes”. Like E26 where the Archivist was named, I felt like I took on the perspective of Alice/Gwen/Sam where I’m like “okay… and this means what?” while the rest of the fandom is taking the Celia perspective of “OH NO”.

Or even this recent episode where this Minister Trevor Herbert dude was. Like I have no idea what this dude is and why everyone is absolutely screaming, crying, throwing up that he’s here, and that is fascinating.

It’s been pretty interesting when I bring up something that felt weird or off that just went nowhere, and my friends revealing some info. I’m like “WHAT” and they’re just like “oh thats not common knowledge?” And I’m just there like “huh?!?” Which turns out, the Hilltop Centre was actually important.

I mostly wish the fandom would tag archives spoilers with #tma /#the Magnus archives / #tma vague just so that spoilers could be tagged a little bit better, but to be fair I am one of the rare people that doesn’t intersect the Venn diagram between archives and protocol.

But overall, I really am loving Protocol. I don’t know when I’ll listen to Archives (probably after Protocol’s three seasons are over) but I will listen to it eventually. Feel free to send more asks my way.

[pinkprettycure]

The way she said "anyone should be allowed to play any roles they want" she clearly has never been oppressed before (although, I know she is mixed judging by her selfies she doesn't seem very white-passing but she can still reek internalized racism and do whitewashing and race erasure on her African ancestry) or she hate reading/learning about queer and trans studies in media industry in general like I get it ppl don't like to read, but they shouldn't be surprised if ppl calls them out for choosing to be ignorant and it her own fault for choosing to be stupid and be wrong...it wasn't easy for ANY openly queer people to work in the industry back then and we all don't want to be forced in a cishet roles we don't feel comfortable to take part in.

literally honestly she should have known better, and if it weren't for the toxic and shameful reaction I would be inclined to say it was just an ignorant, clueless comment. Since the idea that "everyone should just be able to play anyone" is an appealing outlook that I understand completely, but we're not there yet.

and a lot of ppl regardless of their marginalization struggle to have any sort of understanding or empathy toward people with struggles different than them, and because they do face discrimination they think it means they know everything there is to know. thats how we get ppl chiming in on discussions of like antiblackness with "im hispanic and i dont find it racist" like huh?

but yeah the biggest problem comes from her response, lack of apology, dogpiling, bullying, and unwillingness to hear other perspectives. It's one thing to say "we should all be able to just play anyone we want" it's another to refuse to hear why we would prefer trans people to play trans roles. It's not that we want people to "only" play roles that "match", but rather giving people who haven't had a chance to try an opportunity as well as letting them work with creators and share their perspectives. A trans VA could point out hey, this line is a bit weird, I don't think they would say that!

And Wubcake also was like "what is a trans voice" and the answer is that there isn't one, but a trans voice actress who has been voice training for Years could deliver certain quirks or traits to the performance that someone who's never had to try that sort thing before for example. those experiences matter. but she clearly isn't willing to listen and sees that as a nuisance at best.