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ravenpureforever · 2 years
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Akk: I am responsible for the curse!
Ayan: I am Teacher Dika’s nephew and you drove him to suicide!
Teacher Chadok: I was in love with your uncle and we were engaged and I watched him commit suicide in front of me!
Thua: I have been manipulating everything from behind the scenes in a desperate bid to expose the truth so all this can finally end!
Kan and Wat:
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saladbroth · 2 years
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maybe i can put my thoughts into something more eloquent later when i'm not fucking bawling my eyes out but like.
the eclipse is a show made specifically for us. for queer people.
and of course yk. the BL genre is often something many of us in the community can find themselves in but i'd argue that very few shows are actually made with us as a target audience in mind. many cater to specific tropes and the desires of a cishet, largely feminine dominated fanbase and we're just desperate enough for representation to seek it out to. it's obvious that a lot of shows aren't made with the queer audience as the main target, and it's so, so refreshing to have one that is - and it has a lot to do with it being made by people in the community, too
the eclipse is an ode to queerness, to the inherent bravery that comes with being queer - specifically in a country where it isn't really socially accepted yet. it's a celebration of all kinds of ways to be queer, it doesn't invalidate those who want to stay in the closet, or those who are loud and proud and refuse to back down. it's a celebration of pride and self-discovery and self-acceptance, of love in all forms and of the existence of this community it's about hope for better times, and courage to be the one to change things, to put yourself out there no matter what because eventually the fire might catch on. it's about allowing mistakes and growth and learning and becoming someone you're happy with, no matter what the world says
it's just. it's so obvious how much love and care was put into the show, how much the cast and the crew were invested in telling this story and doing it right and i cannot thank them enough the eclipse is just. it's uplifting. it's queer. it's unapologetic.
it's a masterpiece, no matter the flaws
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youdontloveme-yet · 2 years
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linger /ˈlɪŋɡə/ [verb] stay in a place longer than necessary because of a reluctance to leave;
huge thanks to @dribs-and-drabbles for helping me figure out the text <3 // background songs/lyrics are all by EDEN and are as follows (you are not supposed to be able to read them): nocturne gravity kairos circles drugs
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inamatchamood · 2 years
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I haven’t seen anyone talk about it but one thing I appreciated about the finale is their reference to Mes, Akk’s hero and telling us he had to take a year off for his depression. I appreciated this for so many reasons:
1. It verbalised that the trauma these boys underwent for generations and toll on their mental health and that it doesn’t go away even after leaving the school - the things we do and say have a rippling effect
2. It showed Akk, he wasn’t weak or alone. Even the person he looked up to suffered at the hands of the system. He was never the “issue”, he was a victim to an appalling system and coming out of that as strong as he did proves the opposite of what he used to believe - he’s an incredibly strong person
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heretherebedork · 2 years
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I have to admit, everything after the Chadok and Dika relationship and Thua's plans reveal feels like... a dream.
It doesn't feel real.
It feels like an idealized daydream from multiple hurt teenagers struggling to figure out what they want and how they can have everything.
It feels like Akk dreaming of coming out without coming out, coming out without risk, being able to love Ayan without worry.
It feels like Ayan dreaming of more and of peace and of love and of freedom and of the chance to simply be after the fight.
It feels like Kan dreaming of the fight being over, of being safe, of being the brave hero he wants to be.
It feels like Thua dreaming of love and belonging and forgiveness.
It feels like Wat dreaming of his friends understanding how much and why he loves cinema, why film and shows and movies and creation matter.
It feels like Namo getting his dream of being part of their group.
It feels like a dream not like reality.
Like they took all the pain and the bad things and dreamed that away because they wanted to make a better world where none of that was real.
It feels like a fantasy. Like the ending they wished but had no way of getting because that's not how things turn out.
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ichigokeks · 2 years
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No matter his motivations and reasoning, Thua had no right NO RIGHT at all to publically out Akk and Ayan plus revealing their relationship.
That was cruel and selfish. Especially considering that Thua knows how homophobic some students at Suppalo are and what this accusation would do to Akk. He abused his knowledge of their relationship for his own goals while doing exactly the same thing as Akk.
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pigeonriot · 2 years
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like how did your thoughts go there, thua?💀💀💀
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aleng-neng · 2 years
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The difference between Thua and Wai is that Wai outed Patpran out of personal spite because he felt entitled of Pran. Thua outed Akkayan out of a mix of personal rage (over Ayan's hypocrisy) and political motivations (Akk experiencing queer joy while actively supressing the visibly queer protestors).
Thua and Akk were never friends, at most they just exist in the same social circle. He was never privy of Akk's struggle and he was never aware of how trapped Akk is. All he sees is a guy actively causing harm without consequences because Akk is in the position of power.
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fellhalcyon · 2 years
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kan and thua both being awake but both thinking the other is asleep is going to haunt me til kingdom come i swear
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thats-rough-buddy04 · 2 years
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paalove · 2 years
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oh fuck.
when akk goes up to ayan, lying sadly on the steps, because the teachers have been mean to him (because, in part, of akk) and lets him rest, silently gives him the drink, etc... that's IDENTICAL to thua being the one to go up to ayan when he hasn't been back to class after the notebook was stolen.
at that point thua isn't mad at ayan yet - he's worried about him because he seems to be falling under akk's influence, right? so taking the notebook is instrumental and he feels bad for doing it by then - probably hasn't read any of it yet but knows how important it is. unlike akk, he won't try to go and fix it, because he thinks he's doing it for ayan, but he will try to make him feel better.
akk thua parallels! all the way down!
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beauregardlionett · 2 years
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the eclipse episode 5
note board below for my ramblings on this episode. this one is much more scatterbrained than the last one.
episodes 1-4
Character Notes
Akk
What we know so far - Akk being from a small town has achieved plot relevance as well as his adherence to the rules and desire to become a prefect - he tells Ayan that he’s at Suppalo on a scholarship and implies that he can’t afford to attend without it, and the same likely holds true for college; Mes was the student prefect that Akk looked up to when he was younger, and I hope we get more details about Mes because he very clearly idolized Mes (side note but this is bothering me: Mes’ face looks SO familiar but I cannot fucking place why) - a parental figure has entered the ring! Akk’s father spoke with him on the phone about needing to come say goodbye to his aunt before she left - all the insight we have for now but good to know he has parents - Akk is NOT the one who took Ayan’s journal from his locker - Akk is notably NOT annoyed at all by Ayan’s texts about being paired together for judo. in fact he actually smiles and laughs to himself a little, looking almost fond (and the shot was kind of wide so it was hard for me to tell, but right before the scene cut away, Akk almost looks a little surprised at himself for that reaction) - he went to find Teacher Chadok after the fight with Ayan, but it’s not clear what exactly he was going to talk to him about - Akk sought out Ayan after Ayan missed class, but didn’t talk to him after he saw Thua approach Ayan...what were you going to SAY MY GUY??
What we should keep in mind - Akk returns to the queer cafe and he still seems totally fine in that atmosphere so my money is on Akk knows he’s queer he’s just having a crisis that he’s being queer about Ayan as a person rather than Ayan being the same gender as him - springing from the pattern of Akk constantly threatening violence to Ayan if Ayan continued to step out of line finally culminated in Akk actually punching Ayan; he then later mentions he got into fights when he first arrived at Suppalo because he was bullied - i’m curious if Akk grew up rough and tumble or if he just snapped from the environment change and pressure - he seems to feel the need to hide how his feelings toward Ayan are changing from Kan and Wat, likely thinking that they wouldn’t understand and he’s too confused himself still to explain - i believe Akk is changing before he’s even aware of it, something honest breaking free without his permission; he’s the one to approach Ayan and offer up an olive branch, something Akk wouldn’t have done three episodes ago; he even acknowledges that he was after Ayan’s notebook when before he would deny it - Akk’s obsession with the rules and love for Suppalo has been revealed to have stemmed from the interactions he had and people he met during his first year there; Mes and Dika and maybe even Chadok showed him the path to a future Akk probably felt he previously didn’t have access to, but the exact details are still yet to be revealed, especially why Suppalo was the school Akk chose in the first place
Ayan What we know so far - Ayan’s journal has been snatched by an unknown figure (potentially the same one who has yet to be identified from earlier episodes) and while upset about the journal being taken seems relatively unconcerned about the contents of said journal being spread around - Ayan has moved on from giving Akk an out and now texts him to claim Akk as his partner for judo practice in advance - previously stated that Ayan seems well-educated; he was reading G. Orwell’s 1984 in his free-time because we know damn well that’s not on Suppalo’s required reading list - Ayan may have deleted the cheek kiss photo after sending it to Akk, but he still has sleepy Akk photos on that phone of his - Ayan absolutely is feeling some type of way about Akk at this point
What we should keep in mind - it seems like there is still a distance between Ayan and the World Remembers group in terms of protest planning, but I’m curious what Ayan was doing at the school when he found Akk at the end of the episode - I should have mentioned this previously but it seems that Ayan is extremely aware of when Akk is following him and I’m not sure if it’s just because Akk is bad at it or if Ayan is that paranoid, but I find it interesting that Ayan seems to always have his guard up even outside of the school - Ayan sending the photo to Akk felt like a test, especially when he gave Akk the out to save face about likely not deleting the photo by telling Akk to do it not in front of Ayan...I’m wondering if he’s clocked the cracks in the foundation of Akk’s beliefs in Suppalo (or maybe he’s just gay lol) - when Akk asked Ayan about what he meant regarding the curse, Ayan didn’t answer and instead asked “does the student prefect title mean that much to you?” and i know it was Ayan’s way of diverting the conversation but to me it also read as a protective mechanism, as if trying to keep Akk clear of whatever fall out Ayan knows is coming
Dika What we know so far - Dika met Akk after Akk got in a fight and was able to help Akk figure out how to move forward and was “just so understanding” which is a sentiment that Ayan agrees with; the idea that Akk’s personal sense of betrayal in calling Dika a “traitor” comes from a sense of abandonment seems much more plausible now - during the snippet of flashback, the interaction between Dika and Chadok seemed...fine. Chadok seemed calmer and less severe than he does in the present, even looking like he could crack a smile or something crazy like that
What we should keep in mind - something happened between Dika and Chadok - my bet is some dirty truth was uncovered in relation to the rules; Mr. Sit mentioned something of the like during his conversation with Ayan, but no one seems to know exactly what went down
Thua What we know so far - definitely does not have a good relationship with his step-father who is abrasive and verbally abusive (what we’ve seen on screen); Thua’s mother does seem to be trying to step in where she can - Thua abruptly left the car after his step-dad snapped at him and didn’t stop even when his mother called after him; someone is nearing a breaking point - despite not being the direct target of harassment about his sexuality, witnessing that bigotry immediately after being yelled at by his step-dad clearly affected Thua as well
What we should keep in mind - previously stated that he didn’t want to see Kan get hurt again - but it looks like he will have to, considering the ep6 preview - Thua seems to understand Ayan with more ease than his other classmates, especially for someone who has not had all that much on screen interaction with Ayan thus far, which makes me continue to think that they knew each other before Ayan started going to Suppalo - “it would be nice to disappear” i want to know how long Thua’s been thinking like this and the context in which he means disappear
Kan What we know so far - Kan has made progress! he did not immediately release Thua’s hand when other students saw them holding hands - an action that Kan initiated as well! in fact, it was Thua who let go of Kan’s hand, likely thinking that Kan would be uncomfortable - only for Kan to look frustrated and disappointed after Thua walked away (i’m curious what the catalyst for this change was) - Kan’s strong belief in the curse continues to be his go-to explanation for when things start going wrong around the school
What we should keep in mind - he is the only person we are shown on screen having seen/read Thua’s post, a scene which is immediately followed by “Bruce Wayne” contacting Thua; strong suspicion here that Kan is Bruce Wayne; if he is “Bruce” my guess is it’s an attempt at getting Thua to open up under the guise of anonymity - continuation note from previous one but considering we had a scene where the World Remembers trio was being very publicly harassed for being queer, Thua being glared at for holding hands with Kan, and the mounting tension of the curse, I would not be surprised if the reason Kan looks roughed up in the preview is because someone says the wrong thing to either him or Thua and Kan snaps
Wat What we know so far - actively sought out Teacher Sani to tell her that she was right to guess he wasn’t enjoying class - that he actually liked film; and she showed him that she was listening and talked to him briefly about his interests, thereby giving Wat a supportive adult in his corner - Wat’s mediator personality shines again in the phone scene where he waits to see how Akk will react first, and then explains his thoughts to Akk and Kan, acting as a balm to Akk’s more direct explanation; then again after Akk and Ayan’s fight when he talks Kan down from pushing Akk for answers
What we should keep in mind - Wat told Teacher Sani that he had spoken to his family about his film interest and was told it wasn’t a stable career; however when he was talking to Kan and Akk about a communication arts degree, he implied that they would never entertain the idea and made it sound like he had never brought it up and was assuming based off what he knows; i’m curious if anyone in his family has actually told him not to pursue film - Teacher Sani told him “you don’t always need to do what others expect of you” and i’m excited to see how that’s going to affect his growth going forward
The Curse
- we don’t get much new information on the curse in this episode, but in his emotionally driven rage, Ayan asked if the students wanted to know the truth about Suppalo’s curse - something that Akk tried to follow up on later, but Ayan didn’t give him a clear answer; the implication that Ayan already knows what’s going on and is only here to prove and expose it was not something I was expecting, but is definitely intriguing given his connection to Dika - Kan brings up the curse in the meeting with Teacher Sani about the World Remembers group, stating that there is almost a formula/legend for how the curse manifests which is...a highly concerning detail especially considering one involves literal burning (how has this been left unchecked what the fuck)
Things to Follow Up On
- the unknown figure from ep1 and ep2 (now appearing as the journal thief in ep5) is still unidentified; i think there was an attempt at misdirection by utilizing the framing they did with Akk at the end of the episode, but Akk does not have the journal and in the shots from ep2 the figure does not appear to be wearing a prefect armband - Namo was the one pretending to be a prefect in ep1 and then was the one to tell Thua that Kan got into a fight in ep2; also worth noting his actor is in the opening credits so best to keep an eye on him - the jacket sniff: Ayan gave Akk his hoodie which of course made me absolutely insane <3 - ep2 4/4 timestamp 2:15 - unfortunately no follow up - still no follow-up on the whispered conversation between Ayan and Thua, but I hold out hope - the individual who posted the protest video still has yet to be identified - Teacher Sani being willing to pay attention to the students and listen to them: further fulfilled by her interaction with Wat this episode, but I want to keep an eye on her progression throughout the show because Chadok was notably absent from this episode giving her that leeway to be a little softer; also there was a shot of her walking around the school at night at the end of the episode? - the first crack in the foundation of Akk’s belief: the cracks are spreading as evidenced by his leniency with the phone situation - Ayan’s emotional vulnerability in front of Akk: we didn’t see much of this in the same context as the last couple episode, but we did see Ayan thank Akk for stepping in and diverting the teachers from continuing to harass Ayan in class, as well as Ayan acknowledging that he reacted on emotion instead of logic when his journal went missing (though it appears from the preview for ep6 we’ll be getting some VERY emotionally vulnerable scenes between Akk and Ayan) - none of the students at Suppalo knowing Dika’s dead: AKK THE ANSWER IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!! g o s h when Ayan changed the subject and immediately walked away, unable to tell Akk the truth about Dika? I was screaming <3 - Mr. Sit (the janitor) is now on my suspect list...previously he was in the spotlight for the van incident in ep1, then he gave Ayan the information about the rumor concerning Dika, and has interrupted charged moments between Ayan and Akk at least three times now, the last of which he seemed to have purposefully done so and did not look thrilled before he walked away...the vibes are off - Akk: no way. i don’t want to be like you. Ayan: how do you know? you haven’t even tried. Me: alright okay okay okay alright why am i emotional i’ve got my eye on you - Akk: why does it have to be you Me: elaborate - this whole time I’ve been curious about the World Remembers group and why they’re still at Suppalo if they’re clearly suffering so much; this episode gives the insight that they’ve tried to speak out about it to the teachers and to their families and friends and have been ignored/abandoned in every direction; if anything happens to these kids I’m rioting <3 “i truly believe tomorrow will be better than this”
Recurring Themes
- this isn’t exactly recurring but goes sort of hand in hand with the theme of Akk pulling Ayan closer (aggressively) but during the cafe conversation this episode, I absolutely LOVED the detail of body language between Akk and Ayan where they seemed to push and pull toward one another based on who had the upper hand in the conversation. when Akk felt smug and “on top” he would lean against the table and exude this aura of knowing he was winning, until Ayan also leaned on the table and brandish the familiar barb of being incredibly comfortable with utilizing/weaponizing his sexuality for his social benefit, making Akk lean away until he could find his footing again. and there’s the detail that when they were on common ground, like when Ayan said “thank you” to Akk, they were both leaning back, creating a neutral space (perhaps I’m over explaining this but I noticed it on my first watch and thought it was cool) - every shot of Suppalo continues to have the building dominating the screen (maybe it’s just me, but the shots of the building this episode did seem like the angle was adjusted somewhat, perhaps implying something) - no martial arts flip but Akk was the one who threw the first punch in their fight and I’m still just waiting for the narrative-relevant scene of Ayan flipping Akk - not much in the way of sun and moon imagery but don’t think i missed the way Ayan’s face was reflecting the moonlight in that last shot <3
Favorite Shot From The Episode
emotionally charged interactions in tight spaces with your enemy who is slowly becoming something more are actually something that can be so personal
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honorable mention (of course)
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saladbroth · 2 years
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idk about y'all but i'm in the process of succesfully gaslighting myself into thinking this episode was very good and not weird in the end mainly because it's just. really funny?? wat is winning because he's been trying to get his friends to understand why he loves film so much and in the end it's the power of cinema that makes them all get along to shoot a silly little gay film. absolutely iconic wat main character of the eclipse actually
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organic-sprolden · 2 years
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Wat immediately jumping to the conclusion that both Akk and Kan are jealous that Ayan and Thua are talking is actually the best
but really, what else could it be? Wat is just walking normally, seeing 2 of his classmates chatting together and Akk and Kan are acting like their world just stopped spinning...
I love you wat
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inamatchamood · 2 years
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PSA to Suppallo
RIP to the homophobic wretched ass environment that y’all tried to cultivate and maintain because I hate to break this to y’all but…
Three out of four heads of school are in same sex relationships (poor Wat our boy it’s okay we know he’s an ally). One of them is your CLASS LEADER and the other one is YOUR LITERAL CLASS PRESIDENT. And to top it all off he’s dating the “rebel”.
Your institution is crumbling at the seams and I can’t wait to see it burst into flames (like y’all have been setting fire to everything else) xoxo
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heretherebedork · 2 years
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Kan and Thua and Queer Joy in Each Other
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