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cocogum · 11 days ago

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Who is the Eliatrope Goddess's lover?

I seriously don't know what's going on with the wakfu team anymore. But especially with Tot.

Just when we thought we perfectly knew who the father of the eliatropes was, suddenly Tot comes barging in and flips everything upside down in his way. It's as if he expects us all to get used to this new additional detail that he added not too long ago and wants to see just how far he can go with screwing up THE LORE OF THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE KROSMOZ'S CREATION.

If you don't know what happened, let me summarize it in one line for you:

In a short clip of an interview, Tot mentions that the Great Dragon is NOT the father of Yugo and his siblings.

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the fuck you mean he ain't the dad?

I don't think you realize just how massive this claim of his actually is. Like we're talking about ASTRONOMICALLY HUGE HERE.

You mean to tell me that the very same little tale I've been growing up with, the tale about how THE FREAKING KROSMOZ WAS CREATED, the Eliatrope goddess and the Great Dragon dancing together to make the Krosmoz and their children, WAS NOT TRUE!!?!?!?!?!?!?

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE GREAT DRAGON IS NOT THEIR BIOLOGICAL FATHER!?!??!!? WE LITERALLY SAW HIM DANCING WITH HER EVERYWHERE!!!!!

It took one interview...one interview from season 4 to see that what we've been growing with wasn't canon.

Or at least not canon to Tot!

He once mentioned in this other interview that when it comes to the lore of the Krosmoz, he focuses primarily on the relationships between the characters rather than the lore. He cares less about the actual worldbuilding and more about the topic of family.

Due to his disinterest for the worldbuilding, there's a huge chance he's wrong to claim that the Great Dragon is not the father. Even if he's one of Ankama's founders, that doesn't mean he's got everything figured out.

Not to mention that he even said in that very same interview that the Eliatrope goddess's flashback in season 4 with the other gods and the Great Dragon was a canon scene because he wanted to do more scenes that confirmed told events in the past.

So...which is it, Tot??

You're saying that the Great Dragon's dance with the Eliatrope goddess, SEEN IN SEASON 4, was canon but not the fact that he's the father of the eliatropes...???

Of course, saying that the Great Dragon is not the father only creates even more loopholes and inconsistencies in the lore.

Because of this frustrating issue that Tot has created for us (and, let's be honest here, on himself too), we need to gather everything we know about this situation, what works and what doesn't.

So let's see if taking out the Great Dragon from the family tree makes the slightest sense or not.

To do that, I divided the topic into three categories:

1. What we know about the Great Dragon.

2. Proof that the Great Dragon is the father.

3. Proof that the unnamed lover is the father.

I figured we could start with clearing out everything we know about the Great Dragon first before we move to the newest guy.

1. What we know about the Great Dragon.

We have been told numerous times that the universe was created by the goddess Eliatrope and the Great Dragon. They danced together, which resulted in the formation of the entire Krosmoz.

We know that when someone is capable of reciprocating genuine, pure love to a dragon, that dragon can produce a Dofus out of their love. The Great Dragon is known as the dragon of all dragons, which implies that the effect of pure love also occurred between the Eliatrope goddess and him, since their partnership had clearly been necessary to create the world while balancing Wakfu and Stasis.

It also made sense for the Great Dragon and the Goddess to produce more than just one dofus because they are the living embodiments of life and death itself. So to create the dofus, they would have to create the world first.

2. Proof that the Great Dragon is the father.

We have been told time and time again that the Great Goddess created the Krosmoz with the Great Dragon. We've seen them together in covers and even received a complete presentation on their current status.

Just look at this!! It explains word for word on which spectrum they stand on, being on complete opposite sides, as well as what location or realm belongs to them.

WE EVEN SAW THEM DANCE TOGETHER TO MAKE THE ELIATROPES LIKE-

How is he not the father!??!!?

This constant retelling of this cosmic dance was so repetitive and iconic that it just ingrained in our heads now, and we can't throw it out anymore for some mindless statement made by Tot in some random interview.

3. Proof that the unnamed lover is the father.

THE PROBLEM HERE, AS WE'VE SAID, is that Tot could have retconned the eliatropes from knowing who their father is.

In the Great Wave volume 2, Grougalorasalar says that he knows who Yugo and Adamai's father is but won't tell them his name.

Adamai looks just as curious as Yugo when he clearly used static in Season 1. And with the fact that he's been raised by Grougaloragran, we would immediately assume that he would know far more about their past than Yugo. But...that doesn't seem like that's the case here?

You'd think that having an eliatrope and a dragon as siblings wouldn't make you conclude that their father is the Great Dragon. But no. Apparently, this is not the path that we're taking for this. Apparently, the Great Dragon is not their father. Which means even Grougaloragran didn't know who their father was at such an old age. Given that Tot had declared that the Great Dragon wasn't their father in an interview and how Adamai did not retort back to Grougalorasalar, then the Great Dragon is strangely not the father. Even though Adamai and the rest of his dragon siblings are dragons. But okay.

So for the sake of the topic, let's say that the father is not the Great Dragon.

We've also learned from Grougalorasalar that the reason why we've never seen the Eliatrope goddess's lover was because he too had been imprisoned and taken away from her.

His disappearance could explain why we have never seen or heard about him before.

The only three people we know who might have seen him at least once in their lives were Qilby, Shinonome, and Nora.

Qilby and Shinonome, because they never forget their past lives. And I say Nora because she had been able to free her mother from the necromes with Efrim before joining her in the Inglorium to see her get rid of the gods, freeing her lover in the process. Efrim couldn't have known who their father was because he had been imprisoned by the necromes at that time.

In short, all we know about this unnamed lover is that he did not dance with the Eliatrope goddess, is powerful, can fight for himself, got imprisoned by the other gods to teach the Eliatrope goddess a lesson, unleashed his rage on the other gods, and managed to escape who knows where.

But when it comes to his character, we absolutely have nothing about him. We have only heard things about him. We haven't seen his face, heard his voice, what his personality is like, or even what his abilities are.

One thing we can contemplate more thoroughly, however, is comparing him to the Great Dragon.

Tot's claim that the Great Dragon wasn't the father suggests he wasn't present with the Eliatrope Goddess to create them. Unless...Tot meant he wasn't suitable father material.

He bluntly says in French that he's not part of the family, which did turn lots of heads around (including mine cuz again wtf-) but let's see what he meant by that. After all, plenty of fathers don't take care of their children in real life and leave it to the mothers.

Given this new point of view and how we still don't have enough information about the lover, I decided to theorize a bit in order to fill out some holes in this mess.

And honestly, I believe this could work.

It would make sense as to why the Goddess never talks about the Great Dragon. She never even mentions him or implies anything about him. She just makes it seem like the Great Dragon was never there in the first place.

I'm throwing this out in the open just because I think it could work: It's possible that the reason why the Great Dragon and the Goddess managed to make the Krosmoz and the eliatrope dofus together was out of necessity.

The first time it happened, they were surrounded by nothing. There were no planets, no stasis, no wakfu, no living entity besides them. One of them, or both of them, sympathized with each other's loneliness and decided to dance together to make something out of this empty void. The reason why it worked and they came up with the Krosmoz, was because they danced together of their own volition. They both wanted this and sympathized with each other because they had no one else to turn to at the time.

So if the Great Dragon is really not the Goddess's lover, that would mean that the Krosmoz had been created by a mutual agreement rather than by pure love.

The second time the dance happened was for the eliatrope dofus. This time, we know the Great Dragon didn't have to dance with her because he didn't necessarily love her, he just understood her.

Therefore, he might have helped her gain children because he felt like he owed her for giving him life around him. She did create the Krosmoz with him after all, so it's only fair that she gets to have what she wants in the world that they made together.

Because their relationship may be transactional at its very core, the connection between them worked once again, and the Goddess was able to have the children that she wanted.

All in all, with every scene that the Goddess has been in and the clues and hints of her and what the Great Dragon's interactions might have looked like, they seem to have been in an open relationship in my opinion. And there's something definitely weird about the Goddess of all people behaving this way.

But it's been over a million years since she has seen him, so we can't help but question what their relationship is supposed to be. Was this just a transactional relationship? Is this how they came to create the world and her children together?

When it comes to this theory, I think I do. Because it all comes down to the Great Dragon's frequent departures and comings.

He is notably absent at the beginning of her creation of the Krosmoz, seemingly having left her. In season 4, during her flashback, we see him return to help her create the Eliatrope race. This lends some credence to my theory that they were in an open relationship. His departure and return suggest a dynamic where he is fine with coming back only when she needs something. They danced together and forged the Dofus, but as soon as she achieved what she wanted, the Great Dragon left her again. Their relationship might indeed be quite open after all.

So in short, here's what we've got so far.

Proof that the Great Dragon is her lover:

1. When someone holds pure reciprocated love for a dragon, they always end up making a dofus. In this case, the Great Dragon and Great Goddess have danced TWO TIMES. To make anything at all, these two held pure love for each other.

2. He disappears and leaves the Great Goddess after the creation of the Krosmoz. In season 4, during her flashback, we see him return to help her create the Eliatrope race. 3. These eliatrope dofus don't just each have a dragon inside it, but eliatropes too.

Proof that the Great Dragon is not her lover:

1. Tot claimed that the Great Dragon was not the father in an interview.

2. Adamaï didn't seem like he knew who his and Yugo's father was when Grougalorasalar claimed he knew the truth. Adamai should have known who his father was because he had been taught his history by Grougaloragran.

3. The Great Dragon and the Eliatrope goddess likely had a transactional relationship, which may explain why they only interact when the Great Goddess wants to create something that requires the Great Dragon's assistance.

4. Their so-called pure love for each other was made out of understanding and sympathy for one another, which is why their dances always worked. They found a loophole in the rules of creation.

All in all, as much as I might believe my theory to make some kind of sense, I'm still very skeptical of this entire topic.

It's possible that Tot retracted his statement shortly after that small clip of the interview was released because a colleague pointed out his mistake. Tot has made errors in the past and has needed assistance with certain parts of the story due to the vastness of the Krosmoz lore. This potential mistake might mean that he only retconned the part where Yugo and Adamaï do not know that the Great Dragon is their father, rather than being unaware that some new character is their father.

Both sides are possible at this point.

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svnnypiee · 8 months ago

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s3 please bring them BACK

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fiendishartist2 · 8 months ago

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im not fucking around anymore. here's the full "Paul is Care" essay i've been working on:

“Alright. So there's uh, nothing out here, as far as I've seen. But actually, I think there is something out here. I just haven't seen it yet.”

In Petscop, the story is told between the lines. When you feel like you have a grasp on it, a single colour or date throws off everything you’ve built up. That’s why I like to look at Petscop in another way; not as a series of events, but an exploration of a single character: Paul.

Some people like to map everything out in a single timeline; when did Care go missing, when did the family get the game, when did Lina and Mike die. I think that every interpretation of Petscop has its own value, because Petscop means something different to everyone who watches it. But, when I look at Petscop, I don’t just see a series of events wrapped up in the mystery of Care’s disappearance. I see a video game used as a device to explore and understand the connection between the past and the present. I see the ways in which Paul Leskowitz is Carrie Mark.

I know that to some that notion might seem crazy; the broader discussion of Petscop is different to the niche ones held by crazy people in the tags of a Tumblr post . Obviously, this theory is personally significant and I hold it very near and dear to my heart. But, I want to share this theory in a way that makes sense to the general audience of Petscop because I genuinely believe you guys are missing out! So, keep an open mind and enter my Petscop mind-palace…

“...were signs along the way. Um, that I ignored. Because it would have been a completely ridiculous idea to me. Um. But when I found my room, it made, uh, well, I was shocked at first, but it made sense, especially considering where I found the game in the first place, um, that it would be tied, in some way, to me through you. Um. And I'm trying to think, when was the last time I saw any of you at all? It had to have been in like, 1999. I was a kid, I was a small kid. Tiny kid. Um. And after that, just, you know. But, it would make sense in the timeline.” (Petscop 11)

A lot of Petscop theories surround the actual textual proof found in the videos, so that’s where I’ll start. There’s many instances where Paul makes the connection between himself and Care, but one moment continues to stick with me. In Petscop 11, Paul finally enters the house and takes a look around. He’s on the phone with someone, presumably Belle. Paul goes up to the calendars and starts talking about Care, “Yeah, on that topic... I don't remember meeting this girl at all. Um, I don't remember knowing her at any point (…) Um, and I remember you saying that we were, that we, we are, um, exactly the same age.” (Petscop 11). He points out that he and Care share the same birthday, down to the year. We get further confirmation of this in Petscop 14, when Paul’s conversation with Jill that he had on his own birthday is superimposed onto Care’s. The next part though, is what really gets the theory started, “I do agree there's a resemblance. Um. Very strong resemblance between us.” (Petscop 11).

Faces are incredibly important in Petscop. Marvin thought Care and Mike could be rebirthed into Lina because they had similar features, and Care had to be given Mike’s eyebrows specifically to change her room. So, for Paul and Care to have such similar facial features that someone else pointed out the resemblance is significant.

They also happen to share the name “Leskowitz”, which is both Anna and Lina’s last name. We know this because his Reddit account is “p_leskowitz”.

If he’s a Leskowitz, then that explains his complicated feelings towards “the family”. “The family” is a foreboding presence throughout Petscop. Their meddling isn’t outright malicious, but even Paul admits that he’s intimidated by them. And it makes sense, as “the family�� (comprised of Anna and Jill) each have a major role in the core mystery of Petscop. Anna is the mother of Care and the wife of Marvin, while Jill is Marvin’s sister and the mother of both Rainer and Mike. To be a Leskowitz, Paul would need to be blood related to Anna or Lina in some way. Paul shows that he has this relation to the family in Petscop 22, when he’s talking to Belle about finding the windmill, “And, I don't th- and you don't have to worry about it, right, 'cause... 'cause you aren't, you aren't family, so you wouldn't... have a room, that's the thing.” (Petscop 22). In this context, Paul is asking Belle whether Jill has contacted her. When he tells her she doesn’t have a room, this is in reference to the Child Library explored in Petscop 3 and 7. This means that in order to be part of the Leskowitz-Mark family (and in our case, related to Care), you have to have a room in the Child Library, something both Paul and Care possess.

Paul being related to the family is also supported by his casual mention of meeting Rainer as a child, “‘Rainer’... I saw him at a birthday party once. All the older kids were down in the basement playing video games, to hide from everyone. He was down there, too. He was older than the rest of them, though.” (Petscop 11), and his confusion of not knowing Care, with the implication that if she was real, he would have met her through the family.

A rarely discussed aspect of Paul’s character is that he can’t tell his left from his right. When he’s doing the disc puzzle in Anna and Marvin’s room is Petscop 11, “Um, we can see what the room looks like in that recording, um, on the uh, right? ... Left? Left? Right ... side.” (Petscop 14) and before he even enters the house, “And, I mean, I still get confused about that. Because, I mean, well, I know it's always the top, but, um, I still have to think. I have to think.” (Petscop 11), we can clearly see that he has trouble with directions. In a similar fashion, Care is described as “dizzy”, most notably in the end credits of Petscop. She is also described as blind by Rainer in Petscop 17, “You were blind. At some point, your movements stopped making sense.” (Petscop 17). In the counsellor’s office, the counsellor says to Paul, “Are you right handed, or left handed? You don't know? Really?” (Petscop 22). I’ll get more into it later, but this sequence is presumably a real conversation that the game is recreating. If this scene is taken from Care’s real childhood, then it confirms that she also had problems with her lefts and rights.

Now, this is the base level of the theory. It’s easy to figure out that Paul is a Leskowitz, he literally calls them “the family”. And while I think the bits about faces and birthdays and directions are significant to this theory, I wanted to get all of the textual evidence out of the way so that I could get into the fun part of this essay: the subtext.

”Some things you can't rewrite.” (Petscop 14)

Petscop is nothing if not a collection of symbols and metaphors. Ask me what Petscop is all about on any given day and there’s a non-zero chance I will start explaining why the car is orange. While it is necessary to analyse Petscop as a real series of events, I think that another approach can be taken; what if we analysed Petscop as a series of events that are happening to Paul specifically? That the game is creating meaning by placing Paul specifically in these snippets of the past. By looking at each moment as “Why did the game make Paul do this?” instead of “What is happening in the game?”, we can see everything through a new lens.

First, I want to discuss colour. Colour plays a huge role in Petscop; almost every character is assigned their own colour. This is most often used to denote who is speaking in text, but it’s also used for other things like the tool. You are probably aware that Care’s colour is yellow, as all of her text is yellow. What you might not know is that Paul’s colour is red. Paul has exactly one instance in all of Petscop where he has coloured text and that is in Petscop 22, when he gives the counsellor his name. The calendars in the house are also colour coded, as the one showing 2017 is red.

One of my favourite moments in all of Petscop uses colour in a way that supports this theory perfectly. When Paul takes Care out of the rebirthing machine, she has been transformed into an Easter egg. A red and yellow striped Easter egg. I will get into this egg later on, but for now, I want to point out how Paul and Care’s colours have been used here. Of course, it’s significant just that they've been put together, but it's more than that. Care’s final form, the egg she has been placed in to keep her safe from all of the trauma she has suffered, that she will spend the rest of the series in, is painted a combination of her and Paul’s colours. In the same sequence, when Paul is playing the Needles Piano for Care B, the “wrong” notes he plays to turn her into the Easter Egg are all red. There’s a joke about eggs and transness in here somewhere.

Right after Care’s rebirth into the egg, Paul places her in the locker with the purple egg and the “new life” letter. If we abide by the established colour theory, this second egg would be Belle’s/Tiara’s egg. By putting them together, alongside the letter, it symbolises Care and Belle’s transfer to Lina’s care; this can also be supported by the ending of Petscop. In the final scene of the soundtrack, Belle recounts when she and Paul were adopted, “There is Boss waiting for her son. Pall do you remember being born. Smuggled away driving to your new house. Boss in driver seat me in back.” (Petscop Soundtrack). “Do you remember being born” is a question posed over and over again throughout Petscop. It’s meant to be a reference to rebirthing, but here it’s Paul being asked if he remembers being born, not Care; you can also connect this to the “new life” letter, making it apparent Belle is asking if he remembers when he was given his “new life” with her and “Boss”. There’s also the implication of the wording “smuggled away”, implying that there was something stopping Paul from being taken to his new home. Paul and Care’s final scenes parallel each other; Care is placed with Belle’s/Tiara’s egg with the “new life” letter, while Paul is taken back to “Boss” by Belle. Care and Paul are both asked if they “remember being born”.

Another, smaller piece of colour theory in Petscop comes from the board games in the counsellor’s office. The board game “Accident” features red and yellow puzzle pieces that fit together, but are broken apart. Remember that Care’s colour is yellow, so assume that she symbolises the yellow piece; Paul’s colour is red, so assume that he symbolises the red piece. The red piece is bigger and fits into the smaller yellow piece, like it’s missing the beginning of it. The yellow piece comes before the red piece, as if it adds context to the red piece. When we think of this in terms of Care and Paul, we can see that Care is the “missing piece” of Paul; the small part of his past that adds the context that completes him. Paul’s piece is bigger because he’s been Paul for so much longer (if we interpret the counsellor’s office as a real event the way it is shown, then that could be the moment he changed. Or, if we consider Care’s rebirth into the egg as the moment Care turned into Paul, then that would be the moment instead), meanwhile Care’s piece is small because she was only a small part of his life.

Taking colour into account, we can get into the meat of the symbolism in Petscop. When we view the events of Petscop through our new lens, many things become significant. Paul is placed in the role of Care many times throughout the series; on Care’s birthday, in the counsellor's office, and in Rainer’s “you are Carrie Mark” monologue.

During the “strange situation” birthday scene, Paul carries around a yellow balloon, symbolising that he is standing in for Care. This is further cemented by Anna’s dialogue addressing Paul as if he is Care on the day she came home, “You made it. Happy birthday! (...) Why are you covering your face? (...) Of course I recognize you. Those eyes. That nose. That’s still you.” (Petscop 14).

This next dialogue from Anna is particularly interesting to me; she doesn’t just tell Paul that she’s happy Care is home safe or ask him where she’s been, but instead she says this, “I sure hope you’ve realised by now. It doesn’t matter how long you’ve been gone. It doesn’t matter how much you’ve changed. You aren’t lost. Stop wandering and come home.” (Petscop 14). When we talk about Petscop, we have the urge to deny any supernatural involvement in the story. Whether through AI or predictive programming or alternate timelines, we want Petscop to be plausible. Understandable. Easy to digest. But, we often forget that Paul poses the question of a literal “ghost in the machine” in the first few episodes. I want to consider this quote– Anna talking to her child who has been “lost” for many years– as an act of this ghost. The game is talking back to Paul, telling him that no matter how much he has changed, he still has the same eyes, the same nose that made him Carrie Mark. And we know how important eyes and noses are in Petscop. Also as a side note, consider how Anna didn’t specify eyebrows; we know that Care’s lack of eyebrows is in some way due to Marvin, but when she tells Paul she recognises his eyes and nose, she doesn’t add on eyebrows. Paul said it himself in Petscop 7, “Um, and why am I doing that? Well, because eyebrows seem to be important.” (Petscop 7). I like to think that she couldn’t have said that Paul has the same eyebrows because, since Marvin isn’t in the picture anymore, he wouldn’t have any reason to pluck them.

Another scene that mixes up Paul and Care is the counsellor's office. When Paul finally enters the “girl wall” in Petscop 22, he is placed into a school’s counsellor’s office. Again, they talk to Paul as if he is Care, apologising for taking him out of class and saying he needs to “catch up”, implying that he’s missed a significant amount of school. As they start to play Graverobber (Jesus Christ, Rainer), the counsellor is confused about Paul’s name; they ask him if they have the wrong name written down, as his save file is currently “Strange Situation” and when they called out the name on file, Paul didn’t respond. Now, the connection here is a little more nuanced, but it still comes to a conclusion that I think greatly supports the theory. “Strange situation” is in reference to the Mary Ainsworth Strange Situation Experiment, a test in which an infant is deliberately separated from their mother to test their level of attachment. This is a very base level understanding of this concept, but when applied to this specific scene, it becomes apparent that this “strange situation” is another reference to Care. Care was separated from her mother for about half a year, only returning during the birthday party scene; the counsellor’s scene was accessible once Paul started using the “Strange Situation” file. Care stopped recognising the name she used before the seperation, considering herself to be “Strange Situation” instead. She has literally stopped recognising the name Care, and picks out her own name (which in the game Paul sets to his own).

Also consider the implication of the “girl wall”. At first, it’s an absurd joke, meant to lighten the mood using the same roundabout humour the rest of the series has. But, the counsellor asking if they have the wrong name, listing Paul as “Strange Situation” instead of his name, combined with the fact that when Paul is placed in front of the girl wall, he can’t walk away from it, it becomes a bit of an analogy; The game keeps forcefully showing Paul the word “GiRL” over and over and when he finally enters the “girl-world” as Strange Situation, he is called the wrong name and once again placed in Care’s shoes.

Let’s revisit the “ghost in the machine” idea. In Petscop 17, we are shown a past recording of Petscop; we never find out who was playing at this time, but it’s easy to assume Paul is the one watching the recording. The footage is less interesting than the dialogue, but it is notable that it’s a recording of the player running backwards in a very deliberate pattern. The actually relevant part of this sequence is Rainer’s monologue; in particular, the way he frames it, “You are a girl named Carrie Mark, and you were born on November 12th, 1992. You have a mommy named Anna, a daddy named Marvin, an auntie named Jill, an uncle named Thomas, a cousin named Daniel, ......I know what you must be thinking. Have these statements always been true? Or have I cursed you? Is there such a thing? A curse that changes your past?” (Petscop 17). There’s something about the forcefulness of this dialogue, “You are Carrie Mark,” as if Rainer is trying to make it so just by saying it. The inclusion of the birthday is also notable; we have been shown time and time again that Paul and Care share a birthday, and that this is an important part of both of their characters. So, when Rainer asks if these statements have always been true, or if it’s “a curse that changes your past”, we’re meant to interpret it as such: some of the statements are true, but the “you” being addressed is not currently “a girl named Carrie Mark”. Rainer casts a spell to make the player retrace their steps and although he might not be playing, the use of the word “you” and present tense language makes the statement pointed towards Paul. There’s something to be said about Rainer’s position in all of this; he isn’t the only tangible “ghost” in Petscop (Marvin and Tiara fit Paul’s definition established in Petscop 6), but he’s the only one to be fully dead. It truly feels, in this moment, like Petscop– like Rainer– is talking directly to Paul. The “curse that changes your past” is the part that ties it all together. This past that Paul doesn’t fully remember, where Anna and Marvin have a daughter named Care, where someone in his family went missing for months– by learning about this through the game, Rainer is essentially changing Paul’s version of the past. Your memory and physical evidence are all you have of the past; when your memory tells you one thing, but physical evidence tells you another, what version of your past is true?

“You’re the Newmaker. You can turn Care NLM into Care A, and close the loop.” (Petscop 9)

Finally, I want to explain why this theory is supportive of the themes of Petscop. Of course, there’s the obvious link between rebirth and the change from Care to Paul. But, there’s also themes of blood family versus chosen family, breaking the cycle of abuse, and of healing from your past. I want to provide an explanation of each of these themes and how the “Paul is Care” theory fits into them.

Let’s begin with the family point, since I already expanded on the family��s role in Petscop earlier. There’s a story behind the scenes in this series; the conflict between the chosen family versus the blood family. Anna and Jill against Belle and Lina. Anna and Jill are restrictive– they take over the channel and block certain things from the audience. Paul admits that he’s intimidated by them, and he’s concerned when he thinks Jill could be in contact with Belle. When we get the only dialogue from Jill, Paul is hostile and aggressive with her, something we don’t see from him otherwise. Alternately, Anna comes off as dismissive in most of her dialogue; when Care shows up at the birthday party, Anna treats her like no time has passed, like they haven’t been searching for her for months. We don’t get direct contact between Anna and Paul (except for a phone call in Petscop 11 that you could interpret as being with Anna), but the way she talks to the player through Care during the birthday party is still dismissive, “I sure hope you’ve realised by now. It doesn’t matter how long you’ve been gone. It doesn’t matter how much you’ve changed. You aren’t lost. Stop wandering and come home.” (Petscop 14). There’s a level of distance between Paul and the family, which is evident from the name alone; Paul identifies himself as part of the family, but he still calls them “the family” as opposed to “my family”. When you pair that with the fact that he calls them all by their first names instead of any term of endearment (like how Rainer calls her “Auntie Jill” in his spell), it paints a clear picture: Paul does not want to be part of this family.

In direct contrast, Belle is shown a significant amount of affection from Paul. Not only is he on the phone with her for a good handful of the episodes, but Belle also has a familial connection to Paul. In Petscop 2, Paul is talking to Belle and he says “When you come home next month, and uh, hopefully you're feeling a little more enthusiastic about that now, we can investigate this together, and maybe you'll find stuff that I can't find here.” (Petscop 2). I think the casual use of the word ‘home’ to describe where Belle is staying implies a certain closeness, maybe even that they live in the same household. That’s not the part of this line that is important to me, however. Take a look at Belle’s final speech at the end of Petscop; Belle says “I could not wait too be your friend,” and Paul responds, “Family”, to which Belle says, “We can investigate this together.” (Petscop Soundtrack). After distancing himself from the family, as well as directly telling her she’s not part of the family (following it up with “Uhh... I didn't- I didn't mean it that way,” (Petscop 22), implying they have a similar connection that she’s defending), Paul calls Belle family. She states that they’re friends and Paul corrects her by telling her that they’re not just friends, but family. The most gut wrenching part of this dialogue is the use of ‘we can investigate this together’. It’s like a ward, a promise that Belle is making to Paul. He doesn’t have to go through this alone, she’s promising to be there for him. She’s going to investigate this with him, like he asked her to in the second episode. Paul doesn’t call his blood relatives family, but he tells Belle that they are his family; her and the “Boss”.

How does this connect to Care? It’s not hard evidence, but when you take this theme of family into account, it makes more sense for Paul to have a strained relationship with the family if we apply Care’s story to him. Think about it; Paul was ‘smuggled away driving too [his] new house’ and he hasn’t seen the family since he was a child, and Care’s egg was (metaphorically) placed with Belle’s and the New Life Letter when she would have been around 5, since that’s the age she was when she was kidnapped. Care went through an extremely traumatic event in a toxic environment– why wouldn’t someone step in and take her out of that family? To me, this theory extends the same closure Paul gets at the end of Petscop to Care; it tells us that even after everything she went through, she finds people who love and take care of her.

Abuse is a huge focus in Petscop, both as a plot point and a major theme. Rainer’s main motivation is to expose Marvin’s abuse of both Mike and Care to the family– whether or not that’s successful is not important. Because years after Rainer’s attempt, Paul is back doing the exact same; although, his playthrough of Petscop is less of an expose and more of an attempt at solving the mystery. Now, I think it’s a little pedantic, but in this context, I think the “cycle of abuse” in Petscop refers less to a generational cycle, but a continuous cycle that happens every time Petscop is played. Care is stuck in this version of the past that Rainer has created, forced to live through it as many years as Petscop is left on. Paul doesn’t continue this cycle though; as far as we know, Paul is the only person to reach the good ending of the game, where he’s rebirthed Care into the egg and reconnected with Belle and ‘Boss’. Paul is the only person who could understand what Care needed, because it’s exactly what he needed.

Care’s trauma is replayed for us throughout Petscop. Every knowable aspect of it is shown, leaving behind a raw feeling; like somehow, Paul and Rainer have made a spectacle of her abuse. But, I don’t think that’s entirely true. Rainer, although he is bitter and vengeful, is ultimately the person who finds the truth about Care and Mike and (if we are to believe him) is also the one who found Care at the school. In the beginning, it’s obvious that Paul is playing the game to see the mystery and is slowly engulfed by it throughout the rest of the series. When the game tells him that, “Marvin picks up tool hurts me when playstation on,” (Petscop 3), Paul proceeds anyway. The same happens when Care is caught in her room; Paul sees what is obviously a child being kidnapped and continues to solve the puzzle anyway. He picks the flower, catching Care NLM, and leads Marvin to the house. Paul follows through on everything he can to ‘solve’ the mystery of Carrie Mark, but in the end, he defies what the game has told him to do and saves Care. He does what Rainer couldn’t do: he breaks the cycle of abuse in the Mark-Leskowitz family. It’s kind of poetic, the idea that the person Care grew to be is the same person who confronts and lays to rest her trauma. The fact that playing his own theme would be the key to changing Care into the egg (a symbol of birth and potential) is beautiful.

The last thing I want to talk about is the theme of healing. This concept is more nebulous; we don’t see much of Paul post-Petscop, but the final scene does always leave me feeling hopeful for him. I think the reconnection with Belle and ‘Boss’, alongside the reassurance that, “[they] can investigate this together,” shows that Paul is out of the mindset and environment Petscop put him in. I’ve always thought that throughout Petscop, we see a deterioration of Paul; in the beginning, he’s intrigued and confused, but we see him become more and more disturbed, irritable, and frustrated towards the end. This is first evident with the CD puzzle in the house, where Paul is so out of his depth and confused that he stops acting with the same calm rationality shown throughout the earlier episodes. Then, when Paul is messing about with the demo recordings, he stops speaking in the videos entirely. When Paul sees the final blacked out object, which are coordinates to the real life windmill, he is the most stuttery we’ve ever seen, “Hm. Y- y- yep, yep. Yep... yep. N- we would- we would have to find out how big... like, we'd have to find out how big a tile is..? One of the tiles..? Like, if we could- if we could figure out how big... one tile is, in... u- in, umm... Like, feet. Or... Uhh, yeah. Meters.” (Petscop 22). He’s frazzled and excited and a little bit scared, evidenced by how he talks about the family, “They didn't... I don't like talking to them. They intimidate me…” (Petscop 22). All of this changes by the end; Paul is no longer stuck playing the game and he’s free to return to the people who love him most. This freedom is summed up in a single image: the final one we see in Petscop. Paul’s chair is empty and the blue sky beyond the desk is brimming with hope.

All this to say, Paul choosing Belle and ‘Boss’ over the game as well as saving Care by doing what’s best for her instead of finishing the final puzzle, alongside his final scene where he is welcomed home by his real family, shows us an interpretation of Petscop that paints it not as a tragedy, but a story of chosen family, breaking the cycle of abuse, and healing trauma through connection.

Thank you so much for hearing me out.

Bye-bye!

#its been done for ever i just never got around to posting it #i went through and edited it to bw more coherent tho bc this was written in the middle of a petscop fervor lol #petscop #paul leskowitz #carrie mark #im not tagging everyone #essay #petscop theory #i love you paul is care theory forever and ever #its long so you may wanna read in multiple sittings #like 10 pages long ToT #sorry not sorry #lmk if i actually made sense or if im crazy pls i want to know if this is even understandable to ppl who arent me #this was actually originally written as a video essay but idk if ill ever make it

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turtleblogatlast · 1 year ago

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Man I wish we got more of the turtle tots especially their “slightly older turtle tots” designs, because they are so cute

#rottmnt #yes I say this because I was rewatching a scene of them to tell if my deleted post was actually wrong lmao rip my dignity #tho tbh I don’t think what I said was entirely incorrect if you interpret the footage differently but I def forgot some parts rip #but tbh it would have been more of a theory to play with than fact like I’d misinterpreted/misremembered so to the trash that post goes #(ty again to the person who pointed out that I may have misunderstood lol I really do appreciate it)#anyway YEAH I love the turtle tots they’re so cute and small all of them #squishy little cheeks #the scrunklies #i am way too tired to be allowed access to the internet right now but I wanna emphasize how cute they are #their little faces…not a thought behind those eyes

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lemme-perish · 9 months ago

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Nephew: This is Ben!

Me: He has an Ankylosaurus named bumpy!

Nephew: Yeah! And! And he has a boyfriend!

Me: Oh? Who’s his boyfriend?

Nephew: Woody!

Me: Woody?

Nephew, making his Toy Story woody and Chaos theory Ben toys kiss: See! They’re boyfriend’s!

Me: Good for them

#so yeah- sorry yall- ig Ben has a boyfriend and it’s woody from tot story #my nephew is 5 btw #he is making rare pairs and will do wonders on tumblr in about 10 years #he woulda loved rise of the brave tangled guardians and super who lock eras #jurassic world chaos theory #jwct #ben pincus #jwcc ben #jwct ben #toy story #toy story woody #i guess

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xxplastic-cubexx · 2 months ago

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Your posts make my day so much better thank you for these posts.

Whats your fav cherik era??

(I had a breakdown ive got my med skl final tmrw but ur posts actually entertained me so much)

i'm glad my posts can make your day better !! talkin with everyone surely makes MY days better......

as for my fave cherik era, i still think it's the classic/92 era: the banging-my-archnemesis dynamic still tickles me the most i think....

#snap chats #hey anon its ok i was on the verge of a breakdown earlier today: breakdown buddies !!!!!!!#we can make it through tho dont you worry buster...#but back tot he Fave Cherik Era bit idk its prob that one !!! theyre my fave to draw at least #under the lens of this-is-the-most-deadly-roleplay-nonsense-we've-seen it's a very entertaining dynamic #Super Obnoxiously Over-The-Top Evil Magneto and Professor X. i repeat Roleplay Tomfoolery is peak...#also them just. Being Frustrated With The Other's Obstinance But Still Wanting Each Other... good for the soul..#when i was streaming chat mentioned ultimate cherik and IN THEORY its one i like #the Potential toxicitiy of it i like but ultimate is literaly dog ass so like... i cant say i love it with my whole chest #i mean ofc i like the potential of Normal!Erik but i do also mean. the super freak of regular ultimate magneto jvLKAJ #i do like that in ultimate charles and erik are more involved with building the school together and how erik calls him Dear Charles..#liek there's bits and pieces i like but not enough for me to ignore. The Rest Of Ultimate jaVLEKJEKA ESPECIALLY mags' characterization #with the classic era tho i think i also like it when mags is headmaster so i guess cherik 60's-90's era #at the very least so mags can be The Yearner 3000 while charles is in space #but again i think thats more mags focused than cherik focused- i mean cherik INSPIRED but charles isnt super present so #idk !!!!! just... when the two are on opposing sides - thats when its the most fun #not that i dont like them domestic of course... the brief moments of Hey Lets Not Kill Each Other #types of stuff we see in 92 yk- i like that a lot #anyway !!! ive rambled enough. hope you're feeling better my friend !!!!

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honeyspeeches · 3 months ago

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Man fan theories are so crazy they can make you rewatch a show you renounced 7 years ago because it rekindled your love for its potential.

#can you guys believe I might rewatch voltron for the first time in 7 years. can you believe it? I sure can’t #just read the macross theory I have NO IDEA how I never came across this in the years since #like I heard about it and saw other peopl mention it but I never actually read the theory ToT until now #that and @vldunchartedregions have me fucking frothing at the mouth #what do you MEAN s7 and s8 were EDITED. WHAT DO YOU MEAN #craziest thing is I BELIEVE IT #anyway all that to say that I’m having a normal one on this fine Sunday evening

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krirebr · 2 months ago

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Do you have a type of fry for certain occasions? Like crinkle fries when you're sad, wedges when you have something to celebrate, etc?

Jaqui, I love this and I wish I could tell you this was the case. But no, every type of fry is welcome in this house. At all times.

#tater tots too #ask kris #jaqui-has-a-conspiracy-theory #asks are always welcome

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vaselinegurl · 1 year ago

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Everyone: Cartoons can't scare you 😃

The Cartoon:

#I will have nightmares for ages #WHY IS SHE SO TERRIFYING #send help #why doesn't she blink?! ToT #i'm genuinely hiding in my closet #jwcc #chaos theory #chaos theory whistle woman #chaos theory brooklynn #jurassic world chaos theory #chaos theory spoilers

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weirdlyfitting · 10 months ago

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wip???

tbh idk if i'll finish this but i kinda like the concept lol, also this is supposed to be a vent art but ion wanna make it too depressing </3

#chaos theory #kenji really serves with that anime hair #also folks i don't actually know how to render hair ToT #oh the torture of having cartoony artstyle

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struggling-jpg · 5 months ago

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Ran into my older post about Yanqing and Jing Yuan and it's got me thinking again

If the Yanqing-Abundance theories (especially the version of where YQ originates from it) turn out to be true, the amount it says about Jing Yuan (if he's completely in the know about it) makes me want to cry.

You're telling me that, in this scenario, Jing Yuan, one of the leaders in an alliance whose sole purpose at this point is to kill the Abundance and its denizens, and who probably has his own grudges against it (long life and mara among many other things) with the way it contributed to the tragedies of his life, found a being that came from this very thing he has the duty to hunt and destroy, and decided to take that boy home and raise him as his own???

Despite any potential consequences, he pretty much raised him and while he maintains a "mentor/mentee" relationship, is shown to be very much a dad for him sometimes???

Will he tell him? Is he planning to take this secret to the grave? Was he asked to do this? Did he make a promise to someone? Did he not have the heart to get rid of what supposedly is his enemy and think that this boy should have a chance at living a semi-normal life (or is there something even more)?

Jing Yuan, when I catch you Jing Yuan—

#honkai star rail #jing yuan #hsr yanqing #abundance yanqing theory #hoyo's def cooking up something with yq and jy considering the amount of care and attention to their character arcs and quests #the complications there'd be in the quests with all these forces (jingliu-luocha-the xianzhou alliance etc) trying to destroy the abundance #and then there's yanqing ToT #huh wouldn't it be crazy if marshal hua gets involved?#if yanqing gets outed as an abundance creature and it somewhat parallels seven swords where one of fu hua's diciples gets infected #with honkai and she had this eliminate all mentality when it came to the infected—#*gets shot*#HEAR ME OUT ON THIS ONE #hsr keeps referencing seven swords I CAN'T HELP IT #jing yuan have you prepared yourself for the hypothetical consequences of your hypothetical actions???#i should shut up #struggling jpg thinks

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cocogum · 1 year ago

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There’s something off about Yugo now.

‼️ SPOILERS FOR SEASON 4 ‼️

LEAVE AT THE WARNING IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN THE FIRST FOUR EPISODES.

Way before 2024 hit, when Tot was still teasing us with some snippets of Season 4 on Twitter, there was a time when one of his tweets made some people think about what he meant.

The specific tweet was made on the 10th of January of 2023 at 5:10 AM which showed a small scene of Yugo once said that THIS scene in particular was going to change Yugo forever

Here’s the full translation:

“Season 4 of Wakfu is going well my friends…Here’s a small snippet of Yugo that makes me want to cry. 🥲”

We didn’t know at the time what he could’ve meant by that or what that specific scene that saddened him was even about.

But now that Wakfu Season 4 is out, we were able to watch that same scene that happened in episode 3.

And omg it makes perfect sense now.

In his tweet where he addressed his feelings for the scene, Tot specified that this moment would be the last time we see Yugo, the last scene before saying goodbye.

Some people, back when the tweet was still recent, thought Tot might have been implying that Yugo would actually die or possibly gain his adult form through this scene where he’s surrounded by his mother’s blue hues.

But now that we’ve watched the actual episode where this same scene Tot was talking about took place, we can all finally confirm that neither of those two things happened.

Because what happened ended up being far worse than that.

Yes, what’s worse than Yugo dying or growing up to an alarming speed is nothing compared to what actually happened :

Yugo’s mindset changed.

When Yugo met the Eliatrope goddess for the first time (in this life at least), he explicitly told her that he does not know her, therefore, he cannot sympathize with what she’s saying to him. Yugo could see how she was crying when she told him, Nora, and Qilby she missed them as well as her other children and that she promises them she wouldn’t be away from them any longer.

Yugo doesn’t react to this, only Nora and Qilby truly understand the power behind her words.

But as soon as the Eliatrope goddess puts Yugo to rest for a while, the moment he wakes up was as if he changed his mind completely.

He claims that his mother is the purest of the pure and that she’s so perfect that she can’t express any negative emotions. Keep this in mind for later.

He truly believes what he’s saying and cannot fathom the fact that she may be imperfect in some ways.

His mind did a complete 360 to the point where he immediately joins the Eliatrope goddess, Nora, and Qilby’s cause. He changed his mind so quickly that even Nora noticed and brought it up.

When the assembly began, Yugo was proud of showing up first to welcome his mother and he proudly stated her arrival to the rulers. He had even told Joris that he insisted on being as forward as possible to the rulers and to welcome his mother appropriately.

Now, remember when I stated that Yugo does not believe that the Eliatrope goddess can express any negative emotions?

Well, it turns out he was wrong.

Not even a full hour passed, and the Eliatrope goddess was already in a full confrontation with one of the rulers, the queen of Bonta, Astra. When someone, especially a higher being, is claimed to be a pure being with no flaws, it usually means that they cannot even fathom the idea of expressing a negative emotion or struggling to keep it in.

But the reason why this scene was just so important to focus on was because THIS is supposed to be the goddess of love, the goddess that represents purity (no wonder people were beings suspicious of her. How are you gonna be called the embodiment of ‘love’ and yet express something that is out of your agenda?)

So the reason why we need to focus on this moment, is because the goddess hesitated.

This is what makes Yugo’s claims about her being perfect completely wrong.

And since his declarations were very much flawed, his current way of thinking can only mean one thing :

Something has gone wrong.

From what we’ve been able to witness from his slumber, Yugo was able to see how he and his siblings were created by their mother, how their original planet came to be, how their mother got thrown aside, banished by the other gods and ended up in the Necroworld, and how she got saved by Nora and Efrim.

To us, this sequence must’ve probably lasted for about three minutes or so but to Yugo, this moment lasted far longer than that. He must’ve seen the details, heard a lot of recrimination from the other gods, and seen his mother’s suffering from being cast aside. All of this pain and suffering that she must’ve felt was what made Yugo side with her and her cause.

But as much as his sudden want to be closer to her makes sense, it doesn’t mean that Yugo’s portrayal of his mother is true. Anyone can tell that the Eliatrope goddess had broken a very important major rule: DO NOT use a planet for yourself. She had betrayed the trust of the other gods without any explanation other than wanting to have children and making a world for herself.

Yugo saw it all and yet he did not think that she made a mistake. He does not care if she went against the other gods (creating a world for herself), he does not care if she wants to monitor the world (she has told this in front of all the authorities of the world), he does not care if she wants to infuse vigilantism (again, she told this in front of the leaders of the world), and he does not care if all the commanders of the world do not side with her ideas (he deliberately chose to follow her as soon as she left the assembly).

But it seems like even when he was not, at the time, sleeping under her energy, he didn’t care if people with bad intentions got paralyzed for some undetermined amount of time as punishment (he was watching Nora and Adamaï fight the rogues). That could have been an early hint that he would do much more than just stand aside and not say anything in matters like these but rather silently do what his mother wishes to do.

Since he embraces everything that she is, he embraces everything that she wants to do or has done.

Another thing I should mention is the fact that ever since he woke up, he started calling the Eliatrope goddess “mother”, implying that he now felt completely comfortable with knowing and understanding that she was truly his creator, mother.

As you can see, every time he addresses her, it’s always by calling her his mother, which is factually true, but again, he has just met her and is already completely enamoured by her. His admiration and respect towards her makes sense because he has seen everything that she’s been through while sleeping.

The problem is that even when he considers her perfect, he doesn’t seem to understand that the people around her (besides Nora and Qilby) DO NOT agree with her plans.

Yugo does not understand why Adamaï left because his intuition was telling him that something was very wrong about all of this (even though Yugo wasn’t too convinced by the Eliatrope goddess, he was still taking a neutral side at the time. Even though he didn’t completely understand his mother at that moment, this still counts as an event where Yugo did not think about the Eliatrope goddess’s ways even when his brother told him something was off. Also, if Yugo did see his mother’s suffering at that moment, he would have still most likely sided with her.)

Yugo also does not understand what the leaders are trying to say and how right they are (even though they have mistreated the Eliatrope goddess in the process). One of them, the queen of Bonta, makes very good points that the goddess should have answered and explained.

But instead of taking a moment to think about it or try to at least think about how the rulers are feeling right now, Yugo simply leaves them and goes right back to the goddess.

This is a very surprising decision of his because Yugo has lived his entire life in the World of Twelve. He has not only lived here but has met a lot of different people, gone through life and death for them, saved numerous victims and fought off enemies for them, and did all that in the same world where he is currently turning his back to the very rulers of it.

Tot wasn’t wrong when he said Yugo wouldn’t be the same.

And we’re starting to see it.

It’s becoming more obvious and I’m sure that at some point, there could be another fight between Yugo and Adamaï happening, or perhaps even a misunderstanding.

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