#tubbo stuck to the goal of a tie to the end

[qsmprambling]

Wait Bolas tried to recruit Tubbo???

Thank you Tubbo for saying you wouldn't betray your team and when Slime and Cellbit said they betrayed him he said "They're just misunderstood!"

Everyone in Soulfire had reasons for their actions yesterday, and Tubbo knows that even if he's upset/frustrated. Even if it wasn't the case, why take the leader away from a group of 12 when only 2 of them caused an issue? Don't try and break up Soulfire like that!

[woodfrogs]

spending the past 3 months analyzing a character that was dead when i got into dsmp has payed off lets goooo

this got long so im putting it under a readmore

/rp

c!Wilbur is incredibly depressed and self-deprecating, and has been for pretty much the entire plot, so it’s not surprising it’s gotten even worse after ~9 years alone in an empty void with only a man he hates for company. He obviously thinks it’d be better off had he never existed, “the server would’ve been better off without us,” and he’s still extremely suicidal. He doesn’t want to come back, because he thinks everyone’s better off without him.

And he tried to wipe every trace of his existence away before dying. His one goal in the last few months of his life was to destroy his country, and he fully intended on going down with it. He only ever lashed out at himself, and L’Manberg. Other than that, I can think of the pit scene, which I always saw as a manic break where he was completely out of his right mind after the stress of the Festival, killing Jack Manifold on the 16th, and the whole Fundy-spy thing. He saw both of them as traitors, (we can’t forget about his paranoia,) and Fundy was his son, a part of him he had to distance from himself to avoid hurting him.

One thing that’s changed is the way he treats Tommy. In Pogtopia, he seemed convinced that Tommy would come to see he’s doing the right thing. He’d try and convince Tommy of his perspective on things, and in turn he’d listen back in his moments of lucidity (October 17th comes to mind). Wilbur wasn’t even completely convinced of his own plan on the day of the Festival, as he left the call to Tubbo. Tommy also used to be innocent, in his eyes. Wilbur was fully ready to take all the blame for blowing up L’Manberg, and refused to do it when Tommy threatened to take himself down with it. Again, he was only willing to hurt himself.

Now, Wilbur’s convinced he’s right. He’s convinced he’s evil, and has always been this way, and everything he’s ever done was bad. He completely ignored every complaint Tommy had today. He’s done listening to others. He also seems to think Tommy was complicit in causing the problems of the server. Even though Wilbur’s the one who first suggested emancipation and Tommy just went along with it - he blames Tommy too. Before, Tommy was innocent. Now, he’s as bad as Wilbur himself. What happened? He’s happy that Tommy died - was he just lonely? Or does he believe he can convince him of his points, that he’s irredeemably evil? Does he think he can make Tommy believe they're better off dead?

Wilbur tends to view his life as a story. Other characters draw parallels, and so does he (Ozymandias speech my beloved) but he also uses narrative tools to describe the situations around him. His Chekhov’s gun, referring to Tommy as the protagonist, even declaring himself the villain. And unlike the parallels drawn by others, once he decides that’s the way the narrative is, he follows through with it. He didn’t have to blow up L’Manberg, but because of his Chekhov’s gun and the narrative satisfaction it would bring, he did. He didn’t have to become the villain when the story in his mind painted him as one, but he did. And now he’s spent a decade stuck in his own mind, convinced he’s evil, and so he’s dedicated to filling out that narrative role. “I know the way I am.” He believes he can only cause pain, destruction, and suffering because he’s the villain.

He doesn’t want to come back to life, I don’t think. He didn’t on January 20th, and honestly, all the threats of what he would do if he gets revived feel like just that - threats, to keep him dead. Yes, he will probably be bad when he comes back, but he’s being open about it to try and stay dead. Wilbur hides his pain behind facades, rarely being openly self-depracating. When he was President, he was the well put-together leader. In Pogtopia, he hid it behind his anger and destruction. Now, he’s sheltering himself behind the fact he’s evil, so he doesn’t get brought back. He doesn’t believe anyone does or should want him alive again. He was surprised in the s2 finale when Tommy said they wanted him back, and now he’s trying to convince him otherwise.

The only way I could see a redemption happening is if he stops viewing himself as the villain, but for that he’d have to stop viewing life as a story. He’s done too much bad and is too entrenched in his self-given role for him to simply change. But even then, he’d still be deeply depressed and have driven away everyone around him.

And now he has access to insane information like the end of the Universe? What was Tommy going to ask him before he brought out that tidbit? Does he have access to the script? That would be a cool meta way to bring the plot and a neat reference to cc!Wilbur having been the writer both in s1 and s3. It’d also tie into his worldview, the way everything’s a story - because it literally is, and now he knows it. I’d love him to be nihilistically resigned to being the bad guy, since it’s fated to be that way.