#tw jezebel stereotype

[thisismisogynoir]

TW/ Slavery,misogynoir, and white ppl being white

Someone on tiktok make a video and we both agree in the comments how weird is to see any royalty women (especially yt) be considered feminist or "girlboss" such a Catherine of Aragon or (Catalina de Aragon), just because she had power,stood up to Henry VIII a few times and commanded strategies and went to war (or idk) being pregnants, like cool but that doesn't erase the fact that she owned slaves?? Hello? Her parents,were the ones that sponsored Christopher Columbus when he went to america?? And this influenced on latam countries to get colonized by Spain (Peru?,Mexico and others)

And someone replies this

""""enslaving ppl isn't antifeminist"""

HELLO? Spain slaved black women and indegeanous women back them???...that isn't very feminist.. and it doesn't take to be a genius to know how slavery was fucked up and disgusting it was.

However, someone put them in their place,but the user8478524493735,double down

user3588257660364 is so done with their bullshit, as they should,and literally it shouldn't be difficult to get that most of the misogyny black women face has racism in it?? Like the word misogynoir exists for a reason??

I'm too stunned to speak but i'm not surprised? but it truly does surprised me how they are so confident on shit like "slaving ppl isn't antifeminist".

Wow...it's like they've never heard of intersectional feminism before. Do they know that Black women were also raped by white masters during slavery to give birth to mixed-race children that would become house slaves? That the modern ideas of Black women as loud, angry, obsessed with sex/more sexual and less pure than white women, and less feminine than white women as well, ALL STEM from slavery and the stereotypes that white men created about us(and white women helped promote)??? It is absolutely the intersection of racism and misogyny. Not denying that Black men and boys also suffered, but the suffering that Black women and girls endured during slavery was absolutely misogynistic as well as racist...I mean raping a woman and forcing her to have your kids while treating her as property and then saying that she asked for it because of her insatiable sexual appetite is quite literally the MOST ANTI-FEMINIST ACTION a person can commit. Honestly it sounds like they just don't view Black women as women.

As for Catherine of Aragon, I feel like people are saying this because of Six: The Musical, where she is absolutely portrayed as a feminist icon, and is typically portrayed by a Black woman, to boot(although it's worth mentioning that some people have pointed out the problems with the racial casting trends of Six, so there's that). Especially if they're British, they probably don't know much about Tudor history beyond what the musical has showed them or some stuff they looked up/heard other fans say about the Queens. Which I don't blame them for, but still, do your research before you praise white historical figures. And responding to that with "well it wasn't just Black women so it doesn't count" is just absurd, ahistorical, and racist. Typical white feminist drivel lol.

Thanks for the insight, btw, I'm glad you showed this to me(and included a tw), and have a nice day!

[caswlw]

there’s little i enjoy more than dissecting books and making commentary on religious shit and being able to recognize the allusions in it like. “The Fall was a fall from innocence to knowledge.” leading me to writing “…she sees her womanhood as a place that was beckoned to finding forgiveness and failed- therefore laying her womanhood at the altar of man.” like yeah we are going HARD for messages of faith 😤 spn is good for a lot of things but getting wow! on my paper is one of the best

[bonnies-animatrussy]

Fiction effects reality. Reality effects fiction.

Tw: Pedophilia, SA, insest, racism, Maps, Zoophilia

In 1916 a series of shark attacks took place on the coast of New Jersey killing 4 and leaving one injured. This shook New Jersey as sharks were seen as peaceful. This event gave Peter Benchley the inspiration for jaws (the world famous book about sharks killing and eating innocent civilians). The book was later turned into a movie that is well known across the world. This negative portrayal effected the way most people viewed Sharks, they went from a peaceful creatures to dangerous killing machines, and why? Because of a movie/book which was created because of an attack in reality. People are afraid of the sharks because of fiction. The fiction exists because of reality.

If you make content about the trauma fictional character may have, people are going to like it because it reflects on the actions done to themselves and others in a positive, healthy light that makes people feel heard and understood.

If, however, you make content sexualising and romanticising these acts, then people aren't going to like it because it reflects this trauma and those actions in a good light. Which down plays and ignores the trauma and actions.

A lot of the stereotypes and actions we think of and do everyday are because of fiction. The show 'black and white minstels' pushed alot of negative stereotypes such as: black people being aggressive, mammys (the inspiration for aunt jemima, which only just got taken of the packaging), the Jezebel, the black dandy and so on... . Stereotypes shows like these perpetuate are still around today, they wouldn't be here without those shows.

This proves that the way we consume fiction effects the way we think as people. Bad becomes good in our eyes as we see wrong actions such as, paedophilia, SA and insest become acceptable to romanticise and sexualize. It goes from: "it's wrong" to "it's not that bad" to "it's not harming anyone" to "Pedo, SA, insest RIGHTS!!!!". We see it already, there are people trying to get MAPs (minor attracted people) and Zoophiles (attraction to animals) into the Lgbtq+ community claiming "it's not harming any one" and " it's not a choice". It all starts somewhere and if people see others accepting this way of behaving and thinking, they are going to assume it's acceptable to do to a real child/person/relative. It happened with people of colour, there is no doubt in my mind (and the minds of many others) that this can harm real people.

We also have to address the fact that, the people who make this content are making it for a reason, they aren't sexualising a child just because of trauma because there are plenty of other people who went through that same trauma and yet doesn't make this type of content. I understand that people process trauma differently but in no way is that an acceptable excuse to get pleasure and satisfaction from putting another in that situation, the characters might fictional but you are not, you as a real person have these thoughts in your head and that's not okay. Trauma comes in many forms but if yours makes you want to see people, fictional or not, suffer the same grooming or SA as you please get some therapy or help and I say this in the most genuine way I can because they're comes to a point where coping mechanisms and defences go to far and actually damage you more.

Thank you for reading.

[thisismisogynoir]

racist white men be sexualising hispanic women infantilising east asian women and animalising black women and pretending south asia isnt asian enough apparently

Yup. Pretty much.

They be makin' no sense.

[thisismisogynoir]

It’s really curious-making how whenever I watch videos about racialized misogynistic stereotypes against other groups of women, such as the Spicy Latina or the Submissive Asian Woman, etc., the comments will all be in support. About how you shouldn’t stereotype Latina/Asian women based on stupid one-dimensional tropes that they can’t control, how Latina/Asian isn’t a personality, how not all Latinas/Asian women think, look, act, or dress the same, how these tropes are born out of the fetishizing and colonizing white male gaze, etc.. 

But then you get to videos about dissecting and disproving the Strong Black Woman stereotype, the Sassy Black Woman stereotype, the Jezebel stereotype, the Angry Black Woman stereotype, etc., and all the comments will be about how Black women need to have accountability, how we bring these stereotypes upon ourselves, how we need to look in the mirror and consider that maybe we are the problem, how you’re more likely to find Black women who fit these stereotypes than other races of women, how even Black men don’t want anything to do with us because we objectively are these stereotypes, etc. etc. etc.. I think the only exceptions I’ve seen so far are videos about the masculinization of Black women and the adultification bias. 

It’s tiring. 

We just want to be loved and not seen as stereotypes, is that so hard? 

But at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter how we see ourselves, or how many times we tell people that we are more than these silly, sexist, and racist tropes, or how loudly we scream for everybody else to hear us, just hear us. 

To society, we will always be just that. And our screaming for diversity just proves it to them. 

[thisismisogynoir]

I just post a drawing of three of my OCs and someone already made a horny comment... and it is worse since one of that OCs is a little black girl :/ I hate people. I just can't understand what motivates men to make s*xual comments on a picture with kids, even if it is a drawing...

Oh my Gosh...I'm so sorry. I wanna say men are disgusting, and, well, they are...but I feel like that would be invalidation/enabling in this case.

The other thing is that I also drew my own OC for the Disney film Encanto, who is a Black teenage girl. And, well...it's only a matter of time before some m*n has something shitty and gross to say about it.

Men see all women, of any and all demographics, as nothing more than porn categories. To them, we aren't humans, we're nothing more than buy-and-sell commodities for them to fuck. They rate us according to our fuckability and desirability. They only value us as potential romantic partners, objects to look at, holes to penetrate, and are incapable of seeing us as anything else. So being a girl and existing? To guys, you're just another option that they could date, fuck, ogle, sexualize, rape, etc.

And then they throw their hands in the air and say that women are just more beautiful than men...according to your male gaze, that is? You don't think women attracted to men see men as beautiful? You don't think women see men as potential sexual partners? You don't think women consider your fuckability and desirability to them? But the thing is, due to how the genders are socialized and how patriarchy works, women still manage to see men as HUMAN despite that. Women could literally rate every single man they walk past or see on the earth on a scale of 1-10 according to how attractive or sexy they are~and we'd still see y'all as human. Men don't know how to do that in turn. Because to them, we're simply pretty objects to be consumed, looked at, and to do with as they wish.

And of course, the further you stray from privilege and a perceived right to childhood, innocence, white femininity, and respect, the less men(especially wh*te m*n) see you as a human. Because if white women are sexual objects to be used, Black women are even LESS worthy of being treated with humanity and respect, so where a white woman would be at least treated faux-sympathetically, Black women get to be a platform for all of white men's most violent and animalistic rape fantasies. This stems all the way back to slavery, which I'm sure you already know how this horror story is gonna go, but of course, it's where the Jezebel stereotype comes from: that Black women are sex-crazed, violent, rough, animalistic succubi. Do whatever you want to their as violently as you want! Rape them! Mistreat them! They don't have souls and they don't need the care or intimacy that a white woman would be afforded, if anything, they like it! And if they don't see Black women as humans, then of course they won't see Black girls as humans either, or as children.

That's where the adultification bias steps in. Black girls get all of the same violent and rapey stereotypes placed on to them as their adult counterparts do. They get this, of course, because white slave masters raped underage Black slave girls too. They didn't just stop at adult women. Even if you weren't fertile, even if you didn't yet start puberty or menstruate--if he had some sick urges that he couldn't inflict upon his delicate white lady partner, he'd just go down on the closest Black slave girl there was. And yet somehow she was the horny brute. Which is exactly why these men feel comfortable sexualizing even fictional little Black girls, such as your OC. Don't hate people. Hate men. They are truly gutter-minded and fantastically dehumanizing and apathetic to the humanity of anyone who is not male like them. Remember that.

To end this post on a positive note, though, I would be really interested in seeing your OCs, if you don't mind! And even if you do, I'm sure your OCs are gorgeous and have great characters, and the right people will appreciate them! Never stop drawing and writing! I believe in you!