#twd 11x14 spoilers

[allthegothihopgirls]

!!!TWD 11x14 SPOILERS!!!

my take on the latest episodes of twd:

!!! heavy spoilers for twd 11x14 ahead !!!

before i get started, sorry for being inactive, i got caught up in school stuff and then got covid on friday. doing a lot better now though. rlly missed doing this :)

its been a while since i’ve done one of these, mainly due to the fact that i didn’t actually watch the latest three episodes until today. but now i’ve had lots of free time to catch up. i did consider making individual posts for each episode but decided against it as i’ve found myself not as interested in these episodes compared to the first couple of 11b, so take this post as a general take rather than strictly for 11x14.

anyways, enough about me, let’s discuss

i’m not too sure if it’s just me, but i’ve found myself a lot less interested in 11b compared to when the trailers were released, not because it’s boring (imo it’s been excellent so far) but because it’s missing something. i couldn’t quite put my finger on it, but i came to the conclusion that it’s because of how wide-spread everything is becoming. i feel as though all the characters are becoming absurdly distant and hard to keep up with, especially with all the side characters there are nowadays, and although relevant to the plot it still annoyed me, that was until i realised it was all intentional.

what has happened every other time like this? although this example is miniscule in comparison, remember when the prison group took in the woodbury citizens? it was short-lived, and made the characters quite hard to keep up with for a little, but it was all relevant. 

we then saw the governers final attack, which took out the filler characters and left the core group closer than ever. the plot needed that “wow factor” to give the group another reason to trust each other like family. imagine if the governer had attacked in a circumstance where they hadn’t taken in extras and it was just the core group to begin with, there’s multiple flaws:

1. it wouldn’t have set up for the realistic amount of character deaths, ultimately leaving a mc to die, which in turn sets up for an unnecessary grief period

2. the core group’s main bond is over the fact that even though they’ve come from many different periods in the plot, all from different backgrounds, they all survived. they’ve survived against all odds, even though almost everyone else they’ve been with haven’t made it. not having those filler characters die to accentuate the fact doesn’t bring in the same sentiment.

you get the point

i’m currently under the impression that we are going to see history repeat itself one final time in this regard. the characters being distant right now is still very frustrating, but it keeps me hopeful for what’s to come. (especially about how big that event that brings them back must be, they’re more distant than we’ve ever seen, and former repercussions of that have been massive, what could be in store this time??)

at the moment though i do dearly miss the closeness of the characters that we saw in moments such as the lead up to terminus where there was only a core group of characters with no side pieces to distract them.

in terms of 11x14:

(fore-warning most of this is about negan lmfao, absolutely in love with him atm) point 1 OMG THE LYDIA  AND NEGAN REUNION!!! almost had me in tears “hey kiddo” fdosjdfds WITH THE HEAD MOVEMENT TOO, enough to make a grown man cry :’) point 2 i really liked the scene between annie and maggie, annie was saying everything the viewers wanted to say. i truly do believe that negan has changed, and what she said has really confirmed to me that he is a different person canonically. it was also really refreshing to see someone actually tell maggie that she can’t hold onto who negan was forever. i understand her pain, and i do understand that she shouldn’t have to forgive just because negan wants to, but it’s dragging on too far. maggie needs to realise that she’s just as wrong as negan has been.

i think maggie has finally realised that she’s holding a grudge against a changed man. negan has so much loyalty to her that is completely disregarded. maggie’s reaction to negan telling her that “it’d have to happen to me first” before he would let hershel get hurt was really heartwarming as well, it was like a switch just flicked.

point 3 sebastian can die.

point 4 “are you a bad man?” “i was” THE WHOLE SCENE MAN, SO AWESOME negans monologue was really reminiscent as well, what he said about just because he might deserve to die for being a bad man doesn’t mean that everyone else deserves to die (because if hershel killed him they would all be found out and killed) really hit hard. it reminded me of the line up, negan killed glenn (ik abe died to but this is about glenn) because he was associated with who he thought to be the “bad man in charge” which wasn’t right. further proving my point that negan is a changed man.

point 5 daryl and rosita man. so wholesome how much they’re willing to give up for their kids. i hope daryl kills sebastian.

i knew from the second guns started firing that it was mercer, which was relieving because i knew he would understand what was going on. i also loved how daryl didn’t even have to defend himself when mercer told him he was under the impression they were stealing money. man, mercer didn’t even believe what he was saying lmfao

point 6 “it’s that goddamn priest again” captured absolutely everyone’s reaction to a tee, in a good way though. when the guy (forgot his name lol) said that, i was celebrating behind the screen because i knew gabe and aaron were about to pull some epic shit. aaron got me so happy though. i was celebrating so hard when elijah came out with his weapon and again when aaron shot the bitch off the roof. amazing scene visually.

point 7 i was going to go on about how carol’s back on her badass era shit, but then hornsby pulled out the walkie and i figured that he knows.

however, i still want to believe that carol is 10 steps ahead and ready to serve him some cookies. also that look she gave when she turned away?? actually terrifying. i hope hornsby’s ready to look at the flowers.

point 8 negan with kids. i really appreciate the way negan interacts with the kids, it’s the gym teacher coming out in him. we saw it with judith, we saw it with lydia, and now hershel. it’s really refreshing to see him treat them as equals, like when he got down on his knees to be at hershels level, or when he said to judith “i like to swear in front of my friends”

i’m a little confused on where hershel stands with negan now though, especially after the last scene where he death-stared him. point 9 for the love of god i’m done with leah.

now let’s talk predictions/questions:

- april (the woman in the office) was connected to tyler davis. reddit user u/mistertrouble189 pointed out that in the promo for 11x15, the name on the sheet of paper (the one from a few episodes ago with all the names of people connected to tyler) changed from april kelly in the original episode to april marten in the promo. take that how you will - stephanie. i called it. i deadass called it straight up in my 11x09 analysis.

- where are the others? the only downside to 11b so far has been the distance between characters. i just wanna know where characters like gracie, princess, jude’s friend, and connie and kelly are and what they’re doing. and luke! we saw oceanside but no luke, it’s so confusing

- one of my original predictions was hershel jr being in some kind of danger, and i am now being led to believe that him being hurt/kidnapped will be the premise of the negan and maggie spin off.

- i also predicted aaron’s death, and a lot of people are saying that he’s going to take rick’s comic death, which i can definitely see happening

-death predictions include:

1. gabriel i feel like his story is over. if he dies i don’t think i’ll even care that much (plot-wise, emotionally i’ll be destroyed, i love gabe sm)

2. mercer (maybe idk) with him it’s a 50/50, they’ll either leave him to live, or kill him to send a message that not standing out for the wrong will get you killed. we’re already seeing this a bit, with daryl standing up for himself in front of seb, but mercer still giving him the money

3. aaron will prolly get rick’s comic death

4. NOT rosita will be crushed if she dies, but they are setting her up as a “main” main character this season, i have hope for her.

5. sebastian i don’t care how he dies, but i need him dead.

6 months later scene

i’m beginning to see how it’s all supposed to seem at the hilltop scene. the way i see it, daryl, rosita, and co are oblivious to the outside corruption in the commonwealth, whereas aaron, gabe, maggie, etc are oblivious to the inside corruption in the commonwealth. it all adds up for a midseason finale that leaves the audience conflicted as to who’s the good people, because everyone is in the right, just unknowing to some things. i’m open to any ideas you guys have

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on another note

are we going to talk about sarah callies new ig post?? actually sobbing 

i told my dad about it bc he watches twd and i was complaining about how swc does not have the right to tug on my heartstrings like that, and he’s like “but how does that work? carl’s dead” THATS THE WHOLE POINT, he forgot that lori was dead for a solid 30 seconds though lmfao. i think he understood me after he remembered that

excited for next weeks episode! until next time friends :) (also i NEED a negan and jude reunion by the end of the season)

[6xjssx2]

Norman Reedus as Daryl Dixon | The Walking Dead “The Rotton Core”

[tone-stark]

The Walking Dead 11x14 spoilers

I just watched the episode 11x14. Okay...

Gonna tag @thewalkingdead-imagines because I really wanna read your thoughts about it all! Read this post (if you want) after watching episode 14.

• I take back what I said about the timeline. In a second analysis , it's entirely possible.

Why? Because: A month has passed between the episode that Negan leaves and the episode that some of the characters are living in the Commonwealth. (Ep. 9 - 1 month - Ep. 10)

In Episode 10, Tyler Davis, the former soldier, is arrested for the fuss he made at the masquerade ball. In Episode 11, Kelly and Connie are investigating the Commonwealth military and Tyler's treatment. And they have a conversation with Mercer in the woods, and Kelly mentions that Tyler has been in the hospital for a month under armed guard, so... (Ep. 10 - 1 month - Ep. 11)

The teaser trailer for episode 15 shows Daryl arriving at the gates of the Hilltop, as shown in the 6 month flash forward. So there's no denying that by episode 15, six months have passed since Negan left and almost 3 or more until episode 14, so... It's his child, and most of us are stupid assholes that don't pay attention 🤌🏻 One problem solved. (and I mean some of us, 'cause man, we're so inattentive

• I liked Annie, this episode shows a little more of her, despite everything being around Negan, which is kind of shit. Hopefully in the next few episodes we can find out more about Annie as a individual, not Annie as just Negan's wife. She demonstrates leadership traits, she is a strong and firm woman, understanding and definitely Negan respects her VERY MUCH.

• Negan is a sad puppy in this episode and in every scene I felt like giving him a hug. But I guess that's to be expected considering it's the first conversation he's had with Hershel Jr, and the kid points a gun in his face. Negan always liked kids, he always had a certain kind of protectiveness, and seeing a 7 year old point a gun in his face, with an urge to kill him because he killed the boy's father weighed heavily on him, and still more knowing that Annie is carrying his child, it was a good analogy of when he killed Glenn, he felt what he caused with great force in that scene and he held himself very hard not to cry. (Jeffrey's subtle acting in those moments was spectacular).

• One thing I DEFINITELY didn't like at all. Lydia's reunion with Negan... Man, what the fuck was that? Like, Lydia says he left without saying a word, clearly sad, and Negan responds by saying that he left because he didn't give a shit and that's what everyone wanted. Like?? Really?? Are you really going to say he didn't care about her? Because she felt it man. Seriously, my heart broke for her when he said that. A disappointment man! Why did they build such a nice relationship between the two of them for him to say that shit to her face later? And she was the only one who cared for him, who missed him when he left. They shit on it hard.

• Lauren's acting was also great. We can see the deep conflict, the worry, the fear on her face during the conversation with Annie and when she finds out that Negan is taking care of Hershel. She's trying to process all the danger and tension they're going through, the reunion with Negan, the revelations about his life and Hershel's whereabouts along with Negan. It's too much for her and yet she's still going strong. I'm so sorry that Maggie has to relive all of this now that Hershel knows. You can see in her face how much the revelation that Annie's baby is Negan's hit her hard. I really want to see what happens in the next few episodes regarding this situation between these four characters.

•About Negan and Annie's relationship. I still think it was something all of a sudden that's just going to be a tool to make the plot work, which is a shame because I can really see Negan really liking Annie, I think she would be the type of woman for him. I really wish they had shown all the building of this relationship, because it's been more than 3 months or so, they've managed to get to know each other at least a little bit, it's still a short time, considering it's a fucking zombie apocalypse and you can't go around trusting everyone that fast, whether you've had sex with them or not. And I don't think Negan would be the type of guy to jump isto such a serious relationship, considering everything he's been through with Lucille, or rather what he's lost with her and everything else he's lived through until he gets to this point. If they had introduced her a few seasons earlier or built it right, this relationship would have been pretty good. If it was something the writers really wanted to keep through the season. Because the actress who plays Annie was not seen in any episodes filmed later in the season, not with other actors and not with Jeffrey, so I don't think she's gonna survive, and honestly, there's no reason to introduce a brand new relationship in the last fucking season of the show!

[blood-stricken]

I am once again professing my love for Aaron.

[rattlerinthewheel]

My thoughts during and after 11x14, not in chronological order.

(Spoilers.)

Huh, haven’t seen that “this show is rated TV-MA for violence, etc.” in a few episodes, I wonder what’s in this that—oh, that’s why. Oh, that too. Seriously, the thump of the CIA agent hitting the ground and how he went out was brutal. In a good, TWD way. Good on Aaron for not letting that generic-brand Ewan McGregor monologue.

I like Annie and her group. I know new groups getting crammed into a final season seems like a bad thing but like Maggie says, she’s come across a lot of groups over the years. I like seeing smaller pockets of survivors that are only around for an episode or two.

Hershel pulling a gun on Negan—didn’t see that one coming. Good way to show Negan having actual remorse about Glenn. Him telling Hershel to see him in a few years and they’ll settle things makes me think about Carl visiting Negan in the comics. Can see a similar thing happening here.

I like how what Annie says to Maggie (can’t remember word for word) about how they’ve all done wrong seems to stick. I know Maggie got shit from the viewers for giving Negan shit about things and then going and doing nearly the same thing (like not helping the kid in the train car, after she’s mad at him for not helping her up), but I think what Annie says helps that weird characterization come full circle.

The little shit Sebastian continues to be a little shit. Said “oh shit no” when he brought up the kids. Though, I kind of like how it’s a sly misdirect: you think he’s about to threaten them when he was really about to offer to make their lives easier. I don’t blame Daryl for pulling a knife and thinking the worst, I did too, and for all we know Little-shit-ian was lying about not threatening anyone. He hasn’t had to really survive though, doubt he’s killed, so it kinda shows another difference between the sheltered “survivors” and ours.

“It’s a date.” In real time I thought ah, the Caryl fans are going to go rabid. I’m either/or on them getting together. I prefer my non-canon m/m but as for canon, Caryl or Donnie.

Headcanon for Daryl’s pick of donut pre-apocalypse: powdered jelly or apple fritter, something messy. Any Georgia-specific types I might not know about that could fit?

So Mercer’s probably the head of the resistance by helping Daryl and Rosita and popping Grunt 1 and 2 to hide the money?

Suspect that six months later scene from earlier has something to do with Annie’s group. Maggie houses them, Discount Rob Lowe Thornsby finds out, Daryl either tries to play peacekeeper or is a double agent (for Maggie, of course).

So Leah’s returned. Maybe it was the outfit but I was getting Last of Us 2 “Abby” vibes from her. Wonder what’ll go down with her and the gang. Kills one of the semi-main characters, maybe, and Daryl or Maggie take her out?

Hi I’m rattlerinthewheel, thanks for coming to my TED Talk. This was a good episode and I’m feeling talkative.

[judybihi]

Walking Dead - It's funny

Opening Scene 11x14 "The Rotten Core"

Caryl - Shippers get heart palpitations over the word date

Me: I swear, when she said she was doing things on the side, he was tempted to lock her in a cell. (Season 10 trauma)

[ivegotalongmemory]

my weekly twd episode thought dump (11x14):

-im mad that last ep ended on a cliffhanger so this better be good

-"it's a date" all the insane caryl shippers just shit themselves at that line

-seeing rosita doing PAPERWORK?? so weird, when is my girl gonna get to kill something

-daryl's lil sarcastic thumbs up and clap god he's so unintentionally funny

-are negan and Annie like...a thing? because I'm sort of getting the vibe but idk?

-my heart goes :) everytime someone hugs someone even if it's short

-ohh are they setting up daryl and rosita for something what is happening

-ew @ sebastian calling rosita "sweetie"

-"my kids" AHHHHH

-me chanting "do it do it do it" @ daryl even though we all know he wont

-ok so I was right about the negan/Annie vibes but MARRIED???? Didn't see that one coming

-"they're like the Whisperers, they just wear different masks" say it louder lydia

-NOT HERSHEL

-they definitely had negan bash that guys head in in front of hershel on purpose right?? Like the writers know exactly what they're doing right!?

-negan's wife is pregnant? Jesus they're dropping bombs in this ep

-that scene between negan and hershel made me feel lots of emotions and idk how to express any of them

-rosita beating the alarm with her helmet was funnier than it should have been

-yay that Toby guy died a horrible death!!! and good for Aaron too

-omg mercer just killing his own soldiers?? honestly good for him

-sebastian is so annoying but at the same time I also find annoying characters entertaining to watch if they're done well. Like obviously I can't wait for him to die but it's also kind of funny to watch him just be annoying

-lol @ Carol's fake lil smile to lance

-if hershel rhee glared at me the way he glared at negan I think I'd cry

-leah?????? Forgot about her tbh

[please-help-this-little-lesbian]

From what little I’ve seen of the spoiler I have gathered that something goes down with Negan and people are p i s s e d. Those who’ve seen—should I just get it over with and decide if I’m continuing with the show now or wait 2 weeks?

[ultrasweetnephilim]

11x14 SPOILERS!!

something abt negan and annie’s relationship is just off to me. it’s just so random and out of nowhere tbh. like negan loved lucille so much and their relationship seemed real where as with annie I’m searching for a connection. the worst part is annie is actually pretty cool and I would’ve liked to see her break down negan’s walls and see their love develop over time. It seems like the twd writers just put negan in a relationship with anyone so it could further his and maggie’s weird dynamic? im guessing annie and the baby are going to die bc her being around doesn’t really fit with the storyline and the negan&maggie spin off. kinda sad that their relationship was so rushed because I think annie could actually be a good character.

[lemon--squeezy]

I’ve read the spoilers from the next episode of twd (11x14) and I just feel fucking betrayed! How dare they???

but putting my jealousy aside I just want Negan to be happy, even if a lot of people dislike him, in my opinion he deserves a break