#vivalarevolution: refuse resist

[avenger-hawk]

Hi, I wanted to know your opinion, fans expose Sasuke as some kind of insecure, shy and jealous man in front of Sakura, I know that he is an introvert and he tends to hide his feelings and that he will not flaunt his feelings, but I always thought that he is an emotional person,although he does not show this to a loved one I would have treated him differently, but maybe I'm wrong, he's still a traumatized person, and these fans are right and I don't understand Sasuke's character, but do you think he's a shy person and how would he treat a loved one in your opinion ?

Hi, fans have OOC headcanons they claim are IC 99% of the times, especially SS fans. Which I don't want to interact with, so next time everyone who reads this pls remember to write like S*kura and so on, so the name won't end in the tags. If it still works this way, I'm not active in here anymore and I'm not interacting with the fandom so I idk.

Anyway, Sasuke is not an insecure, shy and jealous man. He was shy as a child, towards his father who intimidated him, and towards Shisui whom he respected, but he was aloof in academy even before the massacre, and aloof is not shy, it's different. Like being an introvert is totally different from being shy. H*nata is shy, Sasuke is introvert. See the difference right?

As for insecure, Sasuke has a low self esteem because his father never paid attention to him and if he did it was to compare him with his genius brother, and because his brother manipulated him using such low self esteem to make him believe his story so that he'd stay in KOnoha to train until it was time to fight and kill him...that's why Sasuke trained so hard to get stronger, that's why he admires strength. But low self esteem is different from insecure. H*nata is insecure, I'm sure you can tell the difference.

When ppl portray Sasuke as insecure, shy, too emotional, it's OOC.

Sasuke keeps his feelings for himself but when he has something to say he says it, because he's a honest person. When he respects or admires someone he says so, he did it with N*ruto, and he praised S*kura's ability during the chuunin exam. He wasn't shy and insecure back then. When he loves someone he says it, look at how much he adored Itachi and how much he respected him. Everything else related to the post ending and the new stuff is a bad attempt at milking the original story creating new character that have to be related to the old ones or no one will care, that's why kishi created the new generation. Everything related to it is badly written, shippers can explain the badly written stuff however they feel better, it won't make them better and it will only make Sasuke OOC.

More about Sasuke's personality: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 More about Sasuke/SS 1,2 My anti SS tag here My Sasuke tag (in chronological order)

[avenger-hawk]

Hi, I'm looking for an explanation that Sasuke married Sakura and fell in love with her, do you think he could fall in love with her because she protected him and took care of him, as I know men like it when a woman sincerely cares about them , maybe they have that case, he is touched by her love, I just don't I can understand how he fell in love with her

Hi and sorry if I seem rude but I said over and over that I no longer follow the new stuff, that I don't want to analyse anything related to SS or S+kura and Sasuke related matters because I WROTE WHAT THOUGHT ABOUT IT ALREADY and it's in the SS tag that I always link to anyone who asks me about SS and that I'll once again link here (and also here, same but in chronological order from ages ago). idk I have the impression that it's always the same person asking, maybe because they don't bother looking in the already replied asks, maybe because in the replied asks they can't find the exact answer so they try over and over?

So let me be clear for the last time: He didn't fall in love with her. It's just a pretext to create a new generation of characters for the sequel, as making them new without any tie to old characters would make them less interesting, while if it's the story of the sons and daughters of classic N*ruto characters it's interesting and it rewards the biggest groups of fans (Sasus*ku, Naruh*na). NO mystery of how he fell in love with her, of what are his real feelings or whatever cause the only explanation is MONEY and the only mystery is how ppl can ship such a shitty pairing with such shitty dynamics and no chemistry.

If you need an in-universe explanation like I said here it's guilt, Sasuke was brainwashed and guilt tripped into submission, getting married to the girl who whined that she wanted him since forever is part of his submission to the village, which I remember looked obvious when this new generation appeared.

I will now stop replying to any SS related asks. I'm very sorry to appear rude but you probably noticed that I'm not even that active in here anymore, it's because I'm not even rewatching-rereading what I liked in the show, nor I'm working on my fics for lack of motivation...and this is towards what I liked in this show. So imagine my attitude towards the rest. Which means I'm certainly not gonna think about what I hate of this show...my advice is you do the same, focus on what you liked about it or move on if you don't find explanation. Sorry again. Hawk

[avenger-hawk]

Hello,I would like to know your opinion about the panel when Sakura hugged Sasuke and stopped the damn seal, was it a romantic moment for you?

No, it was a friendship/comrades moment that would have been the same if, say, Nar*to or Kakashi were in her place. Sasuke needed someone to keep him human, so to speak, to not give in to the curse mark, and the human contact of a teammate was that. He had totally different things in mind in that moment (and pretty much in any other), and even she was more scared for him than acting in a romantic way.

[avenger-hawk]

Hello, do you think Sasuke loved Sakura as a child? It is written in the databook that she filled his lonely existence with love,it's just that in the manga and anime I didn't notice this love, maybe I misunderstood

Hello, I don't think so. Databooks are full of fanservice-y information that aren't confirmed by anything happened in the story. I'm not saying he hated her or smth but he didn't care about her during academy and when Team 7 was formed he was pissed off at her when she talked shit against N*ruto. With time he changed his mind ofc, appreciating her ability and considering her a good comrade and precious friend. But it's nothing more than this, everything else is fanservice.

my antiSS/Sak tag.

[avenger-hawk]

https://www.novelcool.com/chapter/Chapter-693/2530493-10-2.html

Sasuke said that here about Sakuras stupid confession. SS tards say it's a pro ss moment which is obv. crap. But I don't understand what he said at all.

SS tards never say anything remotely making sense. They forget the previous part, where he mentions "her little make-believe fantasy of true love" which is the strongest rejection of her feelings ever. As always shippers take parts out of context and consider their headcanons the real thing.

In that moment he was desperate to make Itachi's dream of a peaceful world come true and he couldn't care less about what she wanted. Not that normally he cared, I mean, he did care for her as a comrade and friend when he lived in Konoha but that was years before. For her though, it wasn't even the past, it was her version of the past that she had in her mind but wasn't real, hence the 'failed' part.

Even when he left Konoha she wanted him to stay so that things remained as they were, idk the chapter but she said something like this, and it showed how self-centered and pathetic she was, not understanding that while she was living a normal life with missions and the family and safety she had at home, Sasuke returned to an empty house with no family, so he wasn't happy, he had always wanted to avenge his family first, then his brother. But for her what mattered was to spend time with him and who cared if he was suffering so much she couldn't imagine, just like who cared if there's a war, what mattered is to show off, just like who cared if Sas is going to fight Nar, what matters is to confess her love and maybe convince him out of pity.

Pathetic.

my antiSS tag.

[avenger-hawk]

Hi, do you agree with the opinion of the fans that Sasuke decided to kill Naruto because he is the only one who can prevent him from making a revolution, and he could not kill Sakura because she is his beloved person, he put her in genjutsu to save her life, they even give an example of their situation with Itachi, he also killed everyone, but he couldn't find his brother, and here Sasuke acts like his brother, he is ready to kill everyone but he can't kill his beloved girl, I personally disagree with them, what do you think?

It's bullshit. Sasuke didn't care about Sakura at all in that moment, she was just wasting his time with her whining and he clearly said he wasn't interested in her and her stuff.

[avenger-hawk]

Hi, I wanted to know your opinion, why do you think such a mediocre character like Sakura has a huge fan base, she is no different, does not affect the plot in any way, just an addition to team 7, but a huge number of people love her

Hi, the answer is simple: she represents "normal" people. She doesn't come from a clan gifted with a kekkei genkai like Sasuke, she doesn't have a tragic family backstory like Sasuke and Naruto, she doesn't have important and strong parents like Naruto, she's born average, from a normal family, no tragedies, no genius. She's not even very pretty in the beginning, as when they were children she was mocked for big forehead...even with this, the 'bullying' she suffered was short timed and closer to what real ppl experience, nothing to do with Sasuke's loss and Naruto's loneliness.

She's like most girls, and she is a hard worker who studies and trains and achieves good results, like real ppl can do if they study and train hard.

(she's also emotionally manipulative and petty even tho her fans will never admit it, but hey, average ppl are emotionally manipulative and petty)

Then the plot makes her stronger and more desirable by random characters but in the beginning she's like this, an average girl, and a lot of fans like to identify, or to root for, an average girl becoming amazingly everything (kinda like Mary Sue in fanfictions) and ofc getting the guy she wants.

There's nothing wrong with being average or normal, it's more pathetic and stupid when the plot inflates her strenght to put her on par with Nar and Sas, and even more when she's paired with Sas who never had romantic feelings for her, she was better with someone her (real) level but her fandom was too big to not give them the fanservice they wanted.

[avenger-hawk]

Hi, do you think Sasuke could have married Sakura out of guilt and as a sign of gratitude that she did not give up on him? Or does he really love her in a romantic way? I know that he cares about her in his own way,that she is dear to him, but is this romantic love?

Sasuke married Sak*ra because kishi wanted more money so he created the new generation that in order to be liked instantly by old fans had to be related to it and not new characters, that's why he created couples even if he initially wrote a shounen without romantic couples mostly, and this is the main reason they married, to create a new character for the new manga.

In universe Sasuke was tamed into submission and brainwashed, part of this was guilt tripping into believing everything he did was a crime to atone. Imo marrying sak*ra was a part of guilt tripping, not love and nothing romantic even if he did care about her as a friend in part 1.

my antiSS tag X

[avenger-hawk]

I'm anon from the ask before:

"If we assume that the Konoha Academy system is like the Japanese system, the kids graduated in late-March. From there, we can gleam certain details from the story.

The Chunin Exams is stated to explicitly begin on the first of the seventh month (July). The finals and Orochimaru's invasion take place in August. In September, Tsunade becomes Hokage and Sasuke deserts the vilage.

This gives us about 6 months of time with him on the team."

so minus 1 month of chuunin exam and 1 month of hospital, sasuke only spend around 4 mounths with them.. so that's why naruto chasing sasuke for years also makes no sense at all and sakuras "love" for him even less. Could he also refer to that and could he also said that to himself? Like, that he can't move on from his past too?

yes, but unlike her, having a strong crush for someone she know nothing about, and Nar, tied to Sas because of reincarnation, rivals/friends, yin/yang, plot reasons, Sasuke not being able to move on from his past means his family, his brother, which is much more important than some crush she calls love.

[avenger-hawk]

Hi, what did Sasuke mean by "That's probably just .. chains of a failed past that shes feeling" about Sakuras worse "confession". We also don't see his face when he's saying that.

When did he say so exactly? I don't remember this part,, like what confession even, the pathetic one when he was leaving the village or the pathetic one during the war?

[avenger-hawk]

I swear if I knew back in the day that after Naruto finished there will be a movie called the last, and manga called boruto, and uncannon novel for ss shippers, I will not watch Naruto or read the manga, I really fell like I wasted my time. It's just sad haw they end Naruto, the only 2 people who had what they want is sakura and hinata. What a waste of time.

very relatable. right after the ending some fans stopped blogging n*ruto completely and left the fandom, but for me I couldn't and can't unsee that shit, I can't unlike the things, bonds and stuff I liked in it and I can't un-get attached to the characters and so on. And yeah basically the only 2 ppl who got what they wanted were the 2 female characters, s*kura more important but not as important, as interesting as Nar and Sas (and a bunch of many others tbh), and h*nata who was a totally minor character with nothing interesting, no personality and just nothing to offer, also because the hyuuga story was basically over in pt 1 and in pt2 no one cared about them, including kishi.

Nar too got what he wanted, being hokage and having Sas brainwashed, submitted and in the village, but he's the main character, it was obvious he'd get what he wanted, even if in this shitty way. But he got a shitty boring onesided marriage so yeah I agree, only the 2 girls with a little personality got what they wanted, in a shounen, which should not be (only) for girls. Well the 2 girls and all the girls identifying with them, all the ss and nh shippers. f*ck them.

(canon fans and shippers don't interact)

(names of characters should be not written entirely so they won't appear in search pages. don't write the whole name of s*kura and h*nata pls, I don't want their fans to interact with me)

[avenger-hawk]

hi! sorry to bother you, i'm just curious about one item in the pinned post: «‘kishi was forced to write that ending’- (just nope)» --- ??didn't get it :( btw love your blog. thanks for sharing really good and important thoughts. also i am glad people understand how much taka members mean to each other after all (taka forever) and that sasuke's character was killed in the end (just like he said, he lost)

Hi and thanks. Team Taka is so overrated in the story, it's very sad that most ppl see them only as a replacement for Team7, when Sasuke chose them personally because he acknowledged their abilities, and he deeply respected them, and protected them. But the narrative did them wrong in the first place, just like it did wrong to Sasuke in the end.

btw you don't bother me, when I don't want to receive asks I just close asks.

Btw this post is anti-kishimoto, anti-ending and anti canon pairings. Don't interact with me if you're pro.

As for that kishi thing, I wrote that pinned post long ago so I referred to topics that often came out in those times. In this specific case some ppl said that kishi didn't want to write this ending, he wanted to leave it to ch. 698 but then he was 'forced' by Shounen Jump to write the pairings and the sequel....they said this with no proof, and to me it's unrealistic because kishi is a famous mangaka, and famous creators have control over their creation, like, they have a staff and they discuss things, they might even change their mind over things and over the course of narration but being forced? by SJ? pls. it can happen to a beginner mangaka but a famous one has the authority to have their voice heard. Just like a famous singer would not accept impositions by their label/management if they didn't agree with them, while a beginner would have to accept their conditions because they can't do without their support.

So for me that conspiracy theory about poor kishi being forced to write that ending, pairings and a sequel is very stupid, it's something that some fans wanted to believe because they didn't want to admit how disappointing their favourite mangaka had been, writing pairings only because there had to be a sequel about a new generation, as if he didn't earn a lot of money with it, both doing it himself and letting a former assistant do it.

That's why I wrote that part. I don't want ppl to come to me defending poor kishi, he was completely aware and willing when he destroyed his own story to make more money out of it.

[avenger-hawk]

Hi I love your blog, and it is amazing to know that there are people who thinks like me, so thank you.

I just want to tell you that I am really tired of the people ( I am sure that most of them are ss shippers)who say that izu*i is itachi girlfriend, I swear she is not, 1) she is not in the manga. 2)in the anime she was there for like 3or 4 times. 3) I read the two novels and she is not his girlfriend, so why shippers keep saying that she is his girlfriend where exactly?? Itachi in the novels said that he feel uncomfortable and can't relax when he is with her because he know she love him romantically, then he said that only with sasuke he can relax,(bit of course shippers choose to ignore that part. And he said that she is not his girlfriend 3 times soo why people are lying? And the dream that he gives her that was a mercy killing , she was his friend and she was innocent and he knew her for along time so he give her what she wanted in a dream, and obviously everything in the dream was for her, there is nothing that itachi want there, and what make me angry is the shippers who said that itachi showed her what their life will be in the future????what ?? If itachi really want that dream they will put it in the manga or the anime they didn't because that dream was for her and she is not important,a filler character who appeared after the manga is finished, even boruto and sarada appeared before her, I know she is not his girlfriend but still I can't stand the shippers especially those who say that :"why itachi didn't kill sasuke and his parents and then he can meat izumi outside konoha and they can live there life togather"

There are a shipper who said that in a comment in one of the stupide youtube video about" itachi "girlfriend " izu*i. They totally forgate about sasuke.

Thank you~

Self insert Anon, it’s very simple. stupid girls can’t wait to insert themselves in the random female character to get close to their fave.

Shippers who whip heterosexual pairings don’t care about mutual feelings, that are never there anyway, just as female characters are never as interesting as their male counterparts and the dynamics between them are never as inteersting as same sex ones. het shippers just need characters to interact in the simplest way and that’s it. It would be annoying but ok if theirs remained a ship like every other but the author gave them what they wanted in the ending with SS that was even less mutual than it*izu, since sas was clear about not giving a shit about sak. So if they got a canon pairing out of someone who rejected the girl, ofc shippers are into a pairing of itachi and a random girl with no personality created out of nothing that is perfect for self insert.

Also idk why you guys still look at that crap, yt videos, reviews, reddit stuff, it’s all bullshit done by ppl who like canon and canon-wannabe heterosexual ooc pairings.

[avenger-hawk]

Yeah I understand what you mean with Kishimoto's intentions. Naruto's still just a work of fiction, one that was made with many hands and over the course of many years with author intentions changing over that time. Even a (relatively) simple character like Gaara was written before Kishimoto had the full idea of what he was wanting to do with the Tails Beasts and there's some weird stuff with him and his background as a result.

I think fan interpretations always have to make compromises between the constructed world of the fiction and the reality of the circumstances behind the creation of the fiction.

I probably shouldn't have really brought up that discussion going on with whether Itachi is 'badly written' or not, since I mostly just wanted to describe that I found a way to view Itachi's earlier actions in a way I thought was still cohesive to his overall character.

After all, the other part of fan interpretation is knitting together facets and character moments into a bigger context and characterization even if the meaning wasn't fully intended by the original author.

You found a way to explain this problem with this specific Itachi's action, it's ok even if I don't agree with it, I know it's good fanfic material, and I'm sure that many fans might agree with your interpretation.

I remember that in the past, when I was more an Itachi fan and I was more interested in anything related to him I ignored this on purpose, because it didn't fit, unlike everything else he did and said.

When the ending came out I became less idealistic about the whole story, because I got to know more things about kishi's work, even though certain details, like this Gaara thing and more, he mentioned already. So now I think about characters' actions and motivations both from an in-universe perspective and an out-of-universe one, because now I know they're related more than I imagined, that's all.

[avenger-hawk]

Believe me when I say that there is a lot of people ships itachi and sasuke but they don't say that right now , just like the big brother and his little sister in that anime ( I am sorry I forget the anime name) when people knew that they are not blood related, a lot of them start shipping them, (the same people who said eww you ship siblings). So let's say in bo*uto they say that itachi and sasuke is not blood related ( I know that doesn't make sense but a lot of things in boruto doesn't make sense, sasuke is married to sa*ura doesn't make sense, sasuke retsuden novel does not make anyyyy sense, and the list go on) so if they say that itachi and sasuke is not blood related believe me the number of people who will say they ship them will be more. People are just weird..

Sorruly idk who the brother and sister are or that anime you mentioned and I don't follow the new stuff. It's N*ruto i refer to. Anyway I agree, the new stuff makes no sense, ss is gross and ppl are weird, or worse tbh

[avenger-hawk]

That's just another way you know S*kura doesn't know anything about Sasuke. Because she tries to make Sasuke pity her by acting submissive and pathetic (hell she even calls herself pathetic and how she suffers in an attempt to sway him) and she's upset because he doesn't come to rescue her damsel self.

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This is what happens when ppl are so superficial, self-absorbed and selfish that they don’t even look at the person they claim to love but they actually just want this person because 1)they’re generally acknowledged as cool so they *must* follow the herd not having their own judgement 2)they like the person because the person is attractive and cool, and they are not as deep and empathic to go deeper.