#wasnt the intent of the post but another point for girlzee. so sorry queen.

[nonbinarygamzee]

one of the spots of the comic i hate the most and yet find myself revisiting sooo often is the particular couple of logs between dave and karkat talking about terezi and the things going on with gamzee behind the scenes. i just. think its such a good little nest of all of the hypocrisy that exists in gamzees character writing. theyre unbelievably, laughably stupid, believing something so obviously untrue that its not even a question whether they deserve basic respect anymore, and yet their belief in this is also somehow an act of manipulation on their part for the sake of.... what? making terezi worse? this isnt even a point in the comic where the relationship is perceived by the other characters as unhealthy (past the idea that being with somebody delusional is a hindrance, and will ruin the otherwise sound head on her shoulders, i guess), but already that fanon interpretation that had been popularized around the time is seeping into the story. gamzee is simultaneously a fool, whom is funny to mock because inevitably their beliefs will be proven wrong, because that is who they’ve been from inception. but they are also a puppetmaster preying on the poor innocent girl who otherwise has always held herself as the judge jury and executioner but now is none the wiser and, worse, completely at their mercy. somehow.

and like. again this is all predating any idea that gamzee is treating her any particular way. and its even weirder when you go and read these logs because its always really felt, to me at least, that these are the first moments where you’re being told pretty explicitly that gamzee’s religious ideas are entirely true to what actually goes on to happen (or has happened already, non-linearly), because of the way dave and karkat keep digging in on how totally impossible it is, how funny it will be to see gamzee realize its bullshit. but even in writing a character arc for gamzee that does include, technically, confirmation of their beliefs, they cant actually be allowed to be right. letting gamzee ever believe something true is too much an act of respect towards the character, the only time this could ever possibly happen is when we are otherwise dragging them through the mud, this time in the form of a shoehorned “implied” story about intimate partner violence that cant even respect the audience enough to call it that until much later on anyways. and that was a shit way to do it when it happens to, hardly says a damn thing and tries to recontextualize these interactions without any of the work of having planned that heavy of a topic’s inclusion at all. its as always a pretty extreme act of racism and ableism, but it’s also hitting on this very veryyyyy homestuck type of misogyny that permeates the text in how it treats terezis “spiral”. the homestuck girls can be strong and they can be smart, are often the smartest person in the room even. but they will still always be proven incapable of avoiding being hurt so that the boys in her life have something to judge and worry over.