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#whyyyyyy would it be. why is he excluded
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like i am fine (enough) with all the plot devicery & him being a joke, even if that's of course hardly peak fun This Is Billions and that's how things often go, this is just potentially pulling the rug out Hard when i got my hopes up thanks to the 5x05 thru 5x07 period where it was like "oh hey the writers coming through, b/c surely when they were glad to finally get to write winston as much as they wanted that meant not just more material for him in sheer runtime but also in its complexity / variety b/c of this availability; why would they want to write him in more than they did in s4 / want to keep the character around into s5 & beyond if not" like wow all that focus in 5x05 even if it was a mixed bag, his longest arc yet, oh wow his arc with rian extends beyond even that one episode, wow it's Character stuff for its own sake / his feelings seem to be presented seriously :] finally a payoff, finally the Winston Character Material
like was already into the start of s5 frustrated abt [plot device only] and this is not New but it's not just the potentially dashed (let's call them bruised) hopes of those arcs from 5x05 through 5x07, this is about his character Overall, hence the prior extremely similar frustration.......like, had sure been thinking it Could just be a coincidence that, for some reason, not only have winston and taylor not had a real conversation since 3x11, but more mysteriously winston will often engage with taylor To No Response; i am going to flip out and not in a way everyone likes or respects if the Truth is that taylor feels the same way everyone else does and has disdain for winston / allows him to be around only Begrudgingly for his limited, nigh inadvertent Usefulness, but unlike other's they Can listen to what he says & refrain from expressing their disdain usually, they'll just always feel that b/c that's the Right, Objective way to regard winston
like i said, only secondarily discouraged re: riawin & less so i suppose, b/c there's still the way rian has acted towards him / the fact it seems a lot more involved to suppose rian does not like him as a person at all / alllll the work being done by eva victor saying they have a "horrible intense passionate" dynamic which, always going "hmm. uh oh" at the horrible and i guess it's possible Intense Passionate doesn't mean they kiss, but how passionate can it get if rian does not take him seriously at all b/c she's smart like taylor and no one does, including taylor.......but as always, both pre and post riawin being introduced, going like "boy not even sure i'd want the writers to humanize winston / give him serious emotional material by giving him a romantic subplot b/c i think they'd probably make him a joke :/ aka it'd only be fine if they wrote it well as character material beyond [just a joke at his expense]" and riawin Has felt like a pleasant surprise, but now that i'm just Overall having to go "Is winston just an eternal punchline" that goes for riawin too, there's always been the underlying anxiety that Rian Could Simply Think Winston's Entertaining When He's Annoyed Into Theatricality, and tbh i think "someone Wants to interact with winston just b/c they find it amusing to rile him up & get his personality to kick in harder" would be worse than simply being dismissive and/or shutting him down / ignoring him.....5x05 could be that she Does think his variety of opinion is valuable and/or wants him around for that personal entertainment of messing with him (and not in a good way :( ) and would've gotten pedantic about luck & math at anyone who brought it up, 5x06 could be [enjoying messing with him], 5x07 could've been "she would've talked to anyone about all that".....and even if they do kiss and stuff that doesn't mean she necessarily Takes Him Seriously / is genuinely interested in him As A Person, and that he's not a joke there.....if they go right to being friends (or end up there) you'd think that'd more require taking him at all seriously / being interested in him as a person, and that's always the ultimate priority here re: rian & winston's Dynamic, possible messy romantic/sexual relationship arc or not......the material can always treat winston Seriously without the Tone being serious, you know, like so far the riawin stuff Is always fun and funny but not a joke at his expense, unless it overall ends up being that way for no particular reason but that this is a new way for winston to be pwned by the material......(am also somewhat Optimistic b/c the way rian acts around winston is Unique to those interactions, why dial that back / backtrack it.....unless, again, it's just that rian loves a good joke / to be entertained) (this is all about going "alright i'm giving up (continues to have hope)" as i have about billions repeatedly lmfao but here i am, unfortunately still Caring)
#hardly a neat thesis statement in here but i just have a lot to say#it's winston (billions)!!!!! of course i do#it's not about any one thing......it's really just about. is winston Just A Joke and they have no interest in writing anything else#expressed it as ''is he like fanon jared'' a min ago l o l.......adam perlman doing research like ''bathbombs!! So funny omg''#i Especially cling to hope re the riawin dynamic. thanks to the most textual stuff i suppose lmfao#but i also really hope that it's not just that Taylor Has Contempt For Winston Too B/c This Is Objectively Accurate / Correct#whyyyyyy would it be. why is he excluded#but then some slight indirect textual hope lmao Through the riawin hope b/c....#if taylor thinks rian is smart and Like Them. and rian takes winston seriously (pending but....there's still some real evidence lol)#then i at least doubt that that's meant to be the ''objective'' Correct Stance.........s i g h#winston billions#the tl;dr here i guess is i'm agonizing over Old Frustrations / Concepts i was already wrangling previously#then billions got my hopes up and has somewhat dropped me back down so it's like oh i'm extra sensitive to this lmao#although i guess also possibly normal sensitive. i've always gotten periodically Quite Frustrated / smad about it lmao#and especially of course after events like 4x11 or 5x05.........#if he doesn't care if taylor values him; if they Don't value him.....what are we doing here. what's his reason for being here lmfao
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Episode 20: The One where WangXiantics becomes W(angst)Xiantics
So we start the episode on a high note by watching wc and jj suffer a mental breakdown
We won’t go into detail bc we don’t actually care about them
We are, however, gonna take the time to admire the cut of wwx’s silhouette as he stands on the rooftop playing his demon flute
For real tho, he’s killin it here (on a rooftop! did i mention that? bc all great scenes happen on rooftops)
Enshrouded in shadow with wisps of resentful energy flowing around his flute as he plays
And the only light on him frames just his eyes, emphasizing his cold focus as he rains terror on the two who hurt his family and destroyed his home
Chills...this is not a guy you want to cross
Okay Plot Stuff happens and wwx is gone by the time JC and LWJ show up at the scene of the crime
More plot stuff
Plot plot, wen qing and jc have a moment and there’s a comb, plot plot
Jc and lwj are hunting down wc and wen zhuliu 
Plot plot plot
They finally find them holed up somewhere, idk where, it doesn’t matter
Jc is about to rush in but lwj, being sensible, stops him and tells him they should observe first
So they sneak onto the roof and watch shit go down through a missing tile
Wc and wzl are there doing stuff that doesn’t matter
But then an ominous breeze picks up and we see black boots slowly start climbing a staircase leading to where wc and wzl are
This kind of echoes lwj’s scene in the last episode, which is GREAT
The steps are not hurried in any way. There’s no rush bc wc and wzl are right where he wants them to be
The “he’ here is revealed to be WWX!!! 
YOU LOOKIN FINEEEE IN THOSE ROBES WWX
(tbh, all of our boys are looking pretty dashing)
(@theuntamednarrator​ and i decided that lwj and jc were probs trying to one up each other in the fashion department bc they wanted to look ESPECIALLY handsome and heroic when they finally find wwx. And no, you cannot change our minds. This is definitely what happened.)
There’s some banter between wzl and wwx that doesn’t really matter except for this gem of a line that is just SO GREAT i can’t NOT include it
Wen zhuliu says something about repaying his debts to wen ruohan
Wwx: why do other people have to pay for your gratitude?
DAAAAAMN BOY
LOOK AT YOU DROPPING THE MIC
WWX whips out his flute and starts to play
Lwj sees all the resentful energy wwx is summoning and his eyes widen (by like, a lot) in shock
A pause here to mention that the lady in red that wwx summons is by far the COOLEST THING EVER (the special effects here are actually special for once lol)
i am very upset we didn’t get to see more of her. 
What the heck wwx, she’s so effective and awesome?? 
And she matches your color scheme perfectly???
And you choose never to summon her again????
What is the matter with you
Do it for the aesthetic if nothing else!
So lwj and jc are just chillin on the roof watching all this go down but then suddenly wen zhuliu attacks wwx and is about to land a hit on him
ofc that’s when lwj chooses to intervene
Our boy straight up punches through the roof so that he and jc land between wzl and wwx
We get to watch jc choke out wen zhuliu with his zidian which is pretty cool
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, once this happens, LWJ TURNS AROUND AND FACES WWX FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MONTHS
HE JUST GAZES AT HIM??? 
And jc goes in and has a brotherly reunion with wwx and it’s all sentimental
THE YUNMENG BRO HUG HERE, AHH, MY PRECIOUS YUNMENG BOYS
(Why didn't you return the hug properly wwx why)
The look on LWJ’s face at their reunion is so full of yearning!! 
HE WANTS TO HUG WEI YING TOO. HE’S MISSED HIM SO MUCH, HE NEEDS A HUG FROM WEI YING RIGHT NOW
Ofc that doesn’t happen, and actually after a moment, lwj looks away from the scene as if he realizes he’s intruding on an emotional moment
And here we get some fun Q&A time with wwx!! (and by fun, i mean frustrating and emotionally trying)
Jc: were you really thrown into the burial mounds??
Wwx: if i had been thrown in there, would i be here now? Nobody survives that place
WAY TO NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION
Jc: where did they take you? How’d you escape? Why do you look different??
Wwx: *pointedly does not answer the first two questions* have i really changed??
And then, to further distract from the other questions that he totally ignored...
Wwx: if i told you that i found a special book in a secret cave written by a genius recluse, and then studied it to become super powerful, would you believe me?
Ofc jc just rolls his eyes and starts scolding him which makes wwx grin
Wwx: see, you won’t believe me even if i told you. I’ll tell you more later when we get home
Jc looks at lwj here, who up until now had been silently watching them talk, and then turns his attention back to wwx
Jc: fine, we’ll talk later
THEY’RE PURPOSELY EXCLUDING LWJ AS THOUGH HE HASN’T SPENT THE LAST THREE MONTHS FRANTICALLY SEARCHING FOR WWX TOO, I'M SO UPSET
And here’s where it starts to get super heartbreaking bc this is when lan wangji decides to chime in
Lwj: Wei Ying
Wwx: Lan er-gongzi, or should i say Hanguang-jun
WWX IS ADDRESSING HIM FORMALLY AND I DON’T LIKE IT
SINCE WHEN DO YOU CALL HIM ANYTHING OTHER THAN LAN ZHAN???
LIKE, WWX EVEN DID A LITTLE RESPECTFUL BOW AND EVERYTHING
HE IS DISTANCING HIMSELF FROM LWJ
STOP THAT WWX, STOP THAT RIGHT NOW
LWJ: were you the one that hunted all those wens?
Wwx: so what if i was?
Lwj: why did you give up the sword? Answer me.
Wwx: what if i refuse to answer?
AND HE SAYS THAT WITH A SMIRK, A COLD CURL OF HIS LIPS WHERE IT USED TO BE SO TEASING AND FLIRTY
SOMEONE STAB ME IN THE FACE
Lwj reaches out to grab him in response but wwx completely sidesteps him and even places his demon flute between them!!! WHY IS THIS HAPPENING
WWX: lan zhan (oh so NOW you want to call him by his name), we just reunited after so long and you’re interrogating me? That’s not very nice.
YOU’RE BEING MEAN ON PURPOSE WWX
STOP HURTING LWJ’S FEELINGS
Wwx: it’s been months since the Murder Turtle cave...even if you didn’t cherish our relationship as classmates, you shouldn’t be so mean
HE SAYS THIS WITH A MOCKING SMILE
STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT
HE’S NOT THE ONE BEING MEAN WWX
Lwj does not rise to the bait: Answer me.
Wwx: I did already and you didn’t believe me! I can’t explain so much in so few words
Lwj: Then come to Gusu with me and explain it there.
LWJ ASKS HIM TO COME HOME WITH HIM FOR THE FIRST TIME
IT WON’T BE THE LAST
AND IT HURTS EVERY TIME. 
IT DOESN’T GET BETTER
EVERY INVITATION IS SUPER PAINFUL
Wwx: Gusu? With the 3000 rules? No, i refuse! I prefer yunmeng
I HATE THIS
THIS IS ALL AWFUL
Like, wwx is all pouty when he says this? And before it would’ve been all teasing and cute but instead it’s all cold and mocking aND IT HURTS
Lwj: wei ying, don’t joke around
And he angrily steps towards wwx but jc blocks him with his sheathed sword
With jc between them, wwx asks him, “lan zhan, what do you really want?
HE WANTS TO TAKE YOU HOME AND KEEP YOU SAFE AND LOVE YOU FOREVER
THAT’S WHAT HE WANTS
HE JUST WANTS YOU WITH HIM
GOD DAMN IT
But lwj is bad with words so instead of saying ANY of that he goes
Lwj: wei ying, there will be a price for learning wicked tricks; there’s been no exception in all of history. They will harm your body and mind.
HE’S SO WORRIED FOR WWX
STOP DANCING AROUND THE TOPIC LWJ AND JUST SAY YOU'RE WORRIED
Wwx: i didn’t snatch any souls for my tricks so they’re not wicked. I use talismans and play music, how is that wicked?
WWX YOU’RE COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT
Wwx: and even if they were wicked tricks, i know myself and my limits
AND HE’S SAYING ALL THIS WITH HIS BACK TURNED TO LWJ
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING
Wwx: as for my temperament...i’m in charge of my own mind and i know what i’m doing
Lwj: there are some things you can’t decide on your own!
Lwj is so so worried, he’s snapping at wwx here. It comes off as angry but it’s not anger, he’s scared for wei ying, he’s distressed!!
Now wwx finally walks back to lwj and faces him head on
Oh man, the way they shoot this scene is intense
They only let you see half of wwx’s face bc the other half is obscured by lwj
Wwx: how do others know my temperament? And why should it be their concern?
Just...those words paired with how we can’t see wwx straight on...it hits you in the gut
bc what he really means is “what do you know about me, outsider?”
Lwj: Wei Wuxian (he snaps at him!!)
NOOO DON’T CALL HIM THAT!! DON'T SAY WUXIAN!! YOU ALWAYS CALL HIM WEI YING!!!
Wwx: Lan Wangji (he replies coolly)
STOP ADDRESSING EACH OTHER SO FORMALLY WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME
Wwx: why do you oppose me now? Who do you think you are? What does the lan clan think they are? That you believed i wouldn’t protest?
STAAAAHP
HE’S YOUR SOULMATE!! THAT’S WHAT HE IS!!!
HE LOVES YOU!!! HE WANTS YOU SAFE!!!
And here wen chao regains consciousness (oh yeah, wen zhuliu is def dead but wc was just knocked out until now…)
Oh shit wwx just kicked wc as he starts begging for his life
That was cold. I mean, wc definitely deserved it but wwx is not normally this cruel
WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT LWJ, WWX JUST KICKS HIM OUT
Wwx: this is a domestic affair of the jiang clan of yunmeng. Please leave it to us
Lwj looks at him for just a moment before lowering his gaze and walking out solemnly
WHYYYYYY
STOP BEING MEAN TO EACH OTHER
Oh god, and the expression on wwx’s face after lwj’s gone??
HE LOOKS SO TIRED AND DEFEATED
Like it was taking every ounce of effort to maintain that cold distance from lwj this whole time
And to make it MORE heartbreaking--
When the camera zooms in on wwx’s face as he watches lwj leave (again with that empty, defeated expression) we hear wc in the background begging “forgive me, forgive me”
!!!!!!!!
That begging superimposed over wwx’s expression??
IT’S ALMOST LIKE WEI YING HIMSELF IS ASKING LWJ TO FORGIVE HIM FOR WHAT HE’S DOING RIGHT NOW
Idk if the showrunners did that on purpose BUT OW, MY HEART, MY HEART, IT HURTS
And now I’M SOBBING
LWJ is at the gates of wherever it is they found wc, and he stops in his tracks when he hears wc scream
Then he’s just remembering the words wwx said to him
Lan wangji why are you at odds with me now
Who do you think you are
What do you lan clan think you are?
AND HE JUST LOOKS HEARTBROKEN
EVERYTHING HURTS SO MUCH
Then we cut to lotus pier and watch wwx and jc pay their respects to jfm and m-yu
Wwx: you asked me to take good care of jc and jyl, and i did. Rest in peace now.
*UGLY CRYING* JUST STAB ME IN THE HEART WITH A RUSTY KNIFE
IT WOULD HURT LESS
that’s all the wangxiantics for this episode so only one question remains:
WILL I EVER EXPERIENCE JOY AGAIN???
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