Kicking ass with a bit of sass.I do not support the Duggars POV on life, nor do I agree with fundamentalism / IBLP. This account was once made to highlight the fact that Jana Duggar went against the grain and didn’t marry the first man she met. This has never been a fan account. I’m merely someone who’s fascinated by women going against expectations.
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I genuinely believe Jana might be… only based on the fact that she has been hiding her tummy, per Jinger’s photos.
Then again. Might not be. A part of me does not want to speculate at all… a small part of me thinks “how strange, she’s hiding her tummy”.
Upcoming Events | May-October 2025
Not predicting for: Michael Keilen, Alyssa Webster, Joseph Duggar and Josiah Duggar.
Just Occurred: Erin and Chad Paine announced they are expecting their seventh child. Josie and Kelton Balka announced they are expecting their fourth child.
Confirmed Events: Jeremiah and Hannah Duggar are expecting their third child, a girl. Predicted birthday of 9th May. Trace and Lydia Bates are expecting their second child*, a girl. Predicted birthday of 31st May. Jack and Emy Bates are expecting their first child. Due date of 22nd June. Timothy and Heidi Rodrigues are expecting their first child. Due date of 12th July. Jessa and Ben Seewald are expecting their sixth child. Predicted birthday of 21st July. Carlin and Evan Stewart are expecting their third child. Predicted birthday of 4th September.
Predicted Events: May: 1st - Erin and Chad Paine announce the gender of Baby 7. 5th - Carlin and Evan Stewart announce the gender of Baby 3. 14th - Jill and Derick Dillard announce Baby 4* (1 SD late).
June: 15th - Josie and Kelton Balka announce the gender of Baby 4.
July: 5th - Renee Rodrigues enters a courtship (1 SD late). 30th - Jana and Stephen Wissmann announce Baby 1 (1 SD late). 31st - Joy and Austin Forsyth announce Baby 4.
August: 7th - Nurie and Nathan Keller announce Baby 4. 10th - Justin and Claire Duggar announce Baby 1 (10 SDs late). 19th - Warden Bates enters courtship.
September: 16th - Jason and Maddie Duggar announce Baby 1 (1 SD late). 18th - John and Abbie Duggar announce baby 3. 25th - Isaiah Bates enters courtship.
October: 10th - Zach and Whitney Bates announce Baby 6.
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Sorry, but naming all of your daughters after yourself is absolutely hilarious to me. Especially when you consider that many of the Duggar boys are named after Jim Bob.
Dad: James Robert “Jim Bob” Duggar.
Son 1: Joshua James
Son 10: Jedediah Robert
Son 11: Jeremiah Robert
Son 13: James Andrew
I saw some people hating on her, but why is no one batting an eye when a man does it? She’s the one who’s been pregnant for 27 months total, despite only having been married for 45 months. She’s the one who had to give birth three times. She’s the one who grew them. Let’s face it, she’ll be the one doing all the child rearing while he cosplays as a failed politician.
You do you Katey, name them all after yourself!
Meet Elsie Kate & Emma Kate Duggar
On Thursday 9th January, Jed and Katey Duggar announced the birth of their twin daughters, Elsie Kate & Emma Kate. The twins were born on Wednesday 8th January. The twins were born eleven days early.
Pregnancy Announcement Jed and Katey announced the pregnancy on 18th July 2024. Katey was on Day 95 of pregnancy at the time. She announced her pregnancy with Truett on Day 41 and her pregnancy with Nora on Day 122 of pregnancy. Her new average is to announce on Day 86 (12 weeks, 2 days) of pregnancy. The couple announced the twins' genders at the same time as the pregnancy announcement. This was different to prior announcements, where they had announced on Day 150, on average.
Effect on the Data The twins were born when Katey was aged 26, meaning their data impacts the 25-30 maternal multiplier rate. It's had a very small impact as the 595 days between Nora's birth and the birth of the twins was very close to the average rate in the 25-30 age bracket. Otherwise, the pregnancy only affects Jed and Katey's ongoing predictive pace.
The couple's average pace for Nora and the twins is 497 days. Taking this and multiplying it by the maternal multiplier, their predicted pace for Baby 5 is 585 days.
What's Next? Taking that 585 day pace for Baby 5, key dates for Jed and Katey's future predictions are:
Pregnancy Announcement: 27th January 2026 Gender Reveal: 13th March 2026 (or at time of announcement) Due Date & Birth Date: 9th August 2026
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Jana & Stephen Wissmann have voted!
I sure hope they didn’t vote for the man who goes against many of their values. Mind you, Jessa’s miscarriage was treated with a medical abortion which is now illegal in many states thanks to the man they have just voted for. But Jana does not care about that. Because she, just like all of her siblings and her husband, has been indoctrinated to screech and cry about anyone who does not hold the exact same values as them. She has been taught that anyone who dares to slightly disagree with her is against her.
Jana and her family are one-issue voters. Don’t be like that. Fully study both parties their policies, make a list of things you agree and things you disagree with. Then make an informed decision.
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Is that a Tiffany’s box?!
Jason Duggar and Maddie Jones are engaged!
On Friday 30th August 2024, Maddie Jones shared on her new Instagram (maddiegraceduggar) that Jason Duggar proposed to her on 24th August.
Jason and Maddie went Insta official on 29th May 2024. They haven't announced when they first started courting/dating, though I imagine it was before this point!
Early? Late? Etc. Etc. Honestly, it depends when they started dating. The average Duggar courtship to this point (excluding Jana's unknown data) is 141 days long (122 excluding Jessa's extremely long courtship). The engagement happened 87 days after they went Insta official so it depends on how long they had been dating before that point. Anything between 60 and 223 days would be an average courtship length, though, so they are definitely within that range.
The Duggars are a bit all over the place in total pre-engagement relationship length but a relationship of only 90ish days would be very short, even by their standards. This does suggest they were together before late-May unless they're really going against Duggar-typical dating standards.
I had been tentatively predicting an engagement in October if the couple got together literally as the Instagram post went live and in August or September if they had been together before the post, which seemed likely!
Without definite dates, I unfortunately can't do the data on how they have affected average Duggar pre-courtship and courtship lengths.
When Will They Get Married? Now, this is where the couple are clearly not following the Duggar tradition. The average Duggar engagement following Jana's wedding is 91 days long. With an engagement date of 24th August, that would place a wedding on 23rd November 2024.
However, Maddie hashtagged the post with Spring2025 which heavily implies that's when the wedding will happen. Taking spring to mean March, April or May, that means a wedding sometime between 1st March and 31st May. That means an engagement of at least 189 days and at most 280 days. In the Bates family, an engagement of 189 days wouldn't be too out of place, though 280 days is outside even their engagement time frame. However, in the Duggar family, these engagement lengths are unheard of. The longest Duggar engagement to date has been Josiah's 127 day engagement. We're way outside that here!
I honestly have no idea where to place their wedding date. 1st March is a Saturday so it could be right at the start or it could be closer to Easter (Easter Sunday is 20th April next year) or even later than that, especially if the couple are holding off so Maddie can see out the end of the academic year.
Babies? If the couple marry at the beginning of March, they are then expected to announce a first pregnancy in September for a birth the following March. Add or subtract months based on when the wedding actually happens!
Should more information become obvious, I'll update in a separate post. Right now it's all a bit intriguing.
#jason & maddie#engagement announcement#duggars#counting on#fundies#Jason Duggar#maddie Duggar#Jason+Maddie
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Jana & Stephen’s Honeymoon

They seem to be enjoying their beach-getaway-Honeymoon!
Per Reddit user Whiskpers
#counting on#duggars#fundie#jana duggar#duggar family#stephen wissmann#team jana duggar#jana wissmann#jana+stephen
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#jana duggar#stephen wissmann#jana wissmann#counting on#duggars#fundie#duggar family#team jana duggar#jana+stephen
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I see a lot of people speculating about it, both here on Tumblr and on Reddit. Speculation ranges from a perceived rift to Jim Bob not wanting Jill to be a bridesmaid.
Miscarriage trigger warning!
I personally would like to point out that not that long ago, Jill lost her baby girl Isla.
She seems absolutely devastated still (and rightfully so). Maybe there’s a rift, or maybe the sisters talked about it and both decided that Jill feels too fragile to have the spotlight on her this soon after having a stillbirth. I think it’s best not to speculate considering the circumstances for Jill.
Before anyone tries “but the spotlight is on the bride!”, yes but also on the bridesmaids. I’ve been one tens of times, there’s a lot of camera’s pointed at you. And usually - for me - the bridesmaids help organise the bachelorette and create decorations for the special day and help make the soon to be shared house a home.
If, as some of you think, Jill should have been a bridesmaid then there would have been a lot of attention on her and certain expectations that she’d help the bride.

looks like Jill was the only older sister that wasn’t a bridesmaid 😭
#jill Dillard#Jill Duggar#Jana Duggar#Stephen wissmann#team jana duggar#fundie#counting on#jana+stephen#miscarriagewarning
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engagement pics! these sleuths are wild
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I found more photos. It sold for $275,000.
This seems like a GREAT fixer-upper for Jana and Stephen, with a sizeable back garden. I wonder if it’s the same house as the one she posted about while wearing a bright pink dress. Anyone else remember that?
Jana Duggar is studying to be a nurse

Wow, Jana. RUN! RUN FOR THE HILLS!
First leaving the big house and moving into a tiny house, then enrolling in nursing school, then reconnecting with Stephen, followed by marrying him and moving to NEBRASKA! GO JANA!!
Source: https://people.com/jana-duggar-says-it-was-disheartening-at-times-not-getting-married-sooner-exclusive-8695194
They also bought a house together. His name is on the deed, but I’m guessing they’re married in community of property and feel like it’s bought by the both of them.




Posted by user “the_smart_girl” on Reddit. Please do not dox Jana and her new husband by sharing the address, thank you!
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Jana Duggar is studying to be a nurse

Wow, Jana. RUN! RUN FOR THE HILLS!
First leaving the big house and moving into a tiny house, then enrolling in nursing school, then reconnecting with Stephen, followed by marrying him and moving to NEBRASKA! GO JANA!!
Source: https://people.com/jana-duggar-says-it-was-disheartening-at-times-not-getting-married-sooner-exclusive-8695194
They also bought a house together. His name is on the deed, but I’m guessing they’re married in community of property and feel like it’s bought by the both of them.




Posted by user “the_smart_girl” on Reddit. Please do not dox Jana and her new husband by sharing the address, thank you!
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Wow Jana!

Wow, website! Haha. This is their photographer’s website.
#counting on#duggars#Jana Duggar#Stephen wissmann#Jana Marie Duggar#team jana duggar#Jana Duggar nuptials#jana+Stephen
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Jana Duggar & Stephen Wissmann are getting married!
Source: https://cisarkansas.com/search/?I=3376501
This means that Jedediah Duggar will both be her actual brother and her brother in law! And this means that Hannah Wissmann will be Stephen’s actual sister and sister in law. This means that Hannah is Jana’s sister in law twice over and Jedediah will be Stephen’s brother in law twice over.
#duggars#counting on#fundie#fundies#team jana duggar#Jana Duggar#Stephen Wissmann#Duggar family#Wissmann family
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Oh yeah, me being online 10 min a week and sporadically posting totally means I dedicate my life and time to it.
People are constantly mad for fundies having a platform while giving them said platform.

Um, guys? This isn’t how being an influencer works. It’s not enough to have a lot of followers.
First of all, you have to be relevant enough to have brands want to sponsor you— and, let’s be real, J. Rod really isn’t that relevant beyond being discussed in specific corners of the internet. (And, let’s be real: those of us who do discuss her sure as shit won’t buy anything she suggests.)
Second, she always closes the comments. This also makes her appear unmarketable, because you want to show that you have an active and engaged audience. You can’t just post and go… you have to leave comments open and consistently engage to prove people actually do listen to you and take you seriously. (And no, likes aren’t enough either).
Third, she posts a lot controversial political stuff. Do you know how hard it is for political commentators to get sponsorships, especially if they post things that are controversial? This is a common struggle on social media. Sure, some brands may be willing to work with you… but don’t count on it.
NOTE: The only reason the Duggars get sponsorships despite their controversial opinions is because they are on TV— thus they all have “clickable” names. The Rods aren’t.
So, I wouldn’t worry about it.
P/S, she made it private anyway. Let’s see how long that lasts… 🤣
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Her engagement is shite, she won’t be an influencer. 10k followers, however, would enable the swipe up function and thus allow her to shill Plexus products. It would also make it easier for her to share links of hateful content.
It is rather sad that she had 1k snarkers (and bots) following her. Why are people following a hateful bitch? Stop surrounding yourself with hateful content. Snarkers snark on fundies for dedicating their lives to spreading hate, while dedicating their own time to spreading hate lol. People should ignore her and move on. Report hateful content, that’s it.

Um, guys? This isn’t how being an influencer works. It’s not enough to have a lot of followers.
First of all, you have to be relevant enough to have brands want to sponsor you— and, let’s be real, J. Rod really isn’t that relevant beyond being discussed in specific corners of the internet. (And, let’s be real: those of us who do discuss her sure as shit won’t buy anything she suggests.)
Second, she always closes the comments. This also makes her appear unmarketable, because you want to show that you have an active and engaged audience. You can’t just post and go... you have to leave comments open and consistently engage to prove people actually do listen to you and take you seriously. (And no, likes aren’t enough either).
Third, she posts a lot controversial political stuff. Do you know how hard it is for political commentators to get sponsorships, especially if they post things that are controversial? This is a common struggle on social media. Sure, some brands may be willing to work with you... but don’t count on it.
NOTE: The only reason the Duggars get sponsorships despite their controversial opinions is because they are on TV— thus they all have “clickable” names. The Rods aren’t.
So, I wouldn’t worry about it.
P/S, she made it private anyway. Let’s see how long that lasts... 🤣
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I just have to get it all out there, I fucking hate Nathan Bates.
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Didn’t even last a day lmao
Bethany B apparently really wants people to know that she’ll be offline starting Monday
Gotta say in 4 of the 8 story slides your hiatus!
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The Next 6 Months: December 2020–May 2021
Here’s your monthly installment of the Next 6 Months. Just ahead—
What has happened in November 2020? Was it early, late, or what?
Did anyone miss a deadline in November? Who? For what?
Overall, who’s late, and for what? What’s their next due date?
What’s expected to happen from now through May 2021?
Latest Events—
Predictor 2021 is here! This Predictor 2021’s “Next 6 Months” debut. Throughout this Post, I’ll highlight any changes attributable to the New Predictor. As a result, the Post might be longer than usual!
Denver Bontrager + Praise Helferich are engaged! The Bontrager Blog shared the news late yesterday (November 30, 2020). No information yet on when, exactly, Denver proposed. (Duggar Data will use November 30, 2020 as an Estimated Engagement Date, for now. The Bontragers like to announce right away.) We suspected Denver + Praise were involved, but we didn’t have official confirmation until now. Under the Bontrager Data, Denver started courting ~899 Days (2.5 Years) and 0.98 SD Early.
Joe + Kendra (Caldwell) Duggar finally, finally did a Sex Reveal (via E! Online) for Duggar–Caldwell #3 on November 30th. It’s a girl! Kendra is due in February. Depending on when in February, exactly, Joe + Kendra were 44–71 Days (1.4–2.2 SDs) Late in revealing the baby’s sex.
Rogers #11, Caris Audrey, was born to Courtney + Christopher Rogers. Courtney was induced late Friday, and likely delivered on November 28, 2020. She announced the birth (via Instagram) on November 28. There were serious complications during delivery. (See Also.) As for timing of the birth… Under the Prior Predictor, the Projected DOB was November 10 (9 Days Early). Under Predictor 2021, it was November 22nd (3 Days Late), due to the exclusion of Callie and Colt / Case’s early deliveries as outliers. Predictor 2021’s guess was 6 Days ‘off.’
Jinger (Duggar) + Jeremy Vuolo welcomed their 2nd Child—a second daughter, Evangeline Jo—on November 22, 2020. They announced the birth (via TODAY Parents) on November 25th. Both Predictors guessed that Jinger would deliver 1 Day Early on November 18th. (She was due on November 19th.) Both Predictors were ‘off’ by 4 Days.
Zach + Whitney (Perkins) Bates announced Pregnancy #4 (via People) on November 24th. Whitney is due in June 2021. Duggar Data will use June 16, 2021 as an Approximate Due Date. Their Announcement was early under both Predictors: Predictor 2020 expected it in March 2021, while Predictor 2021 expected it in June. (This shift is again caused by Post–Loss Spacings; with their unusually–short Loss–to–Khloé Spacing removed, Zach + Whitney’s pace shifted from 688 to 788 Days.)
Justin Duggar + Claire Spivey are engaged. They shared the news (via Us Weekly) on November 16th. Duggar Data is using November 10th as an Approximate Proposal Date. Before they announced, both Predictors thought Justin would propose on December 22, 2020—having begun the courtship on May 19, 2020. But on the Announcement Date, we learned from Claire that they’d started courting much earlier than that. Based on a new Approximate Courtposal Date of September 16, 2019, Justin was actually ~295 Days (3.1 SDs) Late to propose, by Duggar standards.
More… After the jump!
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#next 6 months#predictor 2021#duggars#counting on#jill dillard#duggar#jana duggar#duggar family#jessa seewald#jinger vuolo
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