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can’t believe sm actually made a statement

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What I noticed in the last two days is so much talk from a lot of these solo stans and ot6 and ot22 is how lumis are trying to discredit or be disrespectful to the other six members by not being supportive or buying the season’s greeting. Yet these same group of stans are the same people that have been discrediting and being disrespectful to lucas for the last three months by cutting him out of group pictures, making fun of every video they can find of him and every thing he has done has been scrutinized and claims of he didn’t deserve to have that brand deal or he was just given this gig have been the only thing coming out of their mouths. Talk about the hypocrisy of it all. Then everyone blaming lucas for wayv not being nominated for a mama awards, realize that many… if not all of these awards are a joke. It’s only day one since the mama nomination have been announced, god knows when they are going to stop with the blame. I used to honestly hang into these awards but now I don’t care that much. Like every fan wants their favorite artist to be recognized but so many of these are based of favoritism or album sales. Wayv themselves does not have the favoritism or album sales. They don’t even have the streams lol Not in the market they are currently in my opinion. the mamas where they say are global asian (something along the lines of that I think) but really is mostly of korean artists and a few categories or artists from other Asian countries. Mamas also did fan voting before… yeah that’s a joke in itself too because fan voting always results in artists with bigger fandoms winning. I saw Nctzens coming out and saying mamas got rid of the voting system cause they are so worried with nct winning and apparently the mamas can’t have that. 🙄🙄 I will also be honest, for wayv kick back wasn’t even that great lol action figure was better off the album and turn back time/take off was far better as their lead single. but people can keep doing the blame game and whatever wayv isn’t getting or doing, will be blamed on him. Some of these people need to take the irrational hatred and thinking and go touch grass outside or something.

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I’m glad to see your post pop up! I thought you abandoned this blog lol but I hope all is well and whatever you have trouble in your personal life is going to work out and be good! ❤️

I believe I can offer you some insight on why he was trending a few days ago and people going around calling him the r word. That was all that was showing up on my Twitter feed when I woke up. Several users made a Twitter space with the hashtags of how he’s not innocent and how he should be out. That Twitter space gained like over 4K users and from what I was reading off my feed the people who were ALLOWED to speak were calling him the r word and it started to a whole lot of dangerous misinformation. These people that were allowed to speak also hate him lol. Lumis who got in weren’t allowed to speak so everyone there was/is running with the information that he is a r word now. Iirc too, this one lumi managed to speak cause I think the hosts didn’t realize she was one… she’s gotten death threats cause they didn’t like what she said. Idk what she said though cause I was not present, but I saw some comments saying she was being rational. What did make me lol was that after this Twitter space changed the name of the to another member’s name, the participants in the space went from 4K to 1K. Too many people are using his name for clout and to gain followers, makes me was to scream. And a few days before this happened, I think there was another Twitter space that was happening. It was supposedly for two of the more popular units but those units were not part of the actual conversation and I feel like you can take a guess on what or who they were actually talking about. 🙃 He’s not part of 2021. He has not been seen or heard of and at this point I feel like I don’t even know what is going to happen. But all these people are acting like he’s physically present and part of this freaking project talk more about him then their so called favs. Just focus on what you have. Some of you have been screaming that your favs have been doing nothing because of him, but now they’re doing something so stop complaining. Stop focusing on what or who’s not there. If you hate him so much, stop talking about him. I also need Twitter spaces to end cause they’re ridiculous. People don’t need an additional place to spread or speak of nonsense.

One more thing… about the sg debacle that was happening with lumis vs the rest of the fandom. Have you seen the last few days? Groups of solo fandoms/users who were ragging on lumis for not buying the sg and telling them that even without him, they should still be supporting the other members have now refused to buy 2021/support the project cause their bias isn’t in the lead single. Wtf is this stupidity?! A lot of these solo fandom bars have stopped orders apparently because they’re angry. So what happened to the “support the other members even if your bias isn’t in it” mentality you were preaching and shoving in Lumis’ faces?! I hate hypocrites and the hypocrisy of this fandom and the double standards. 🙄🙄 And no offense, in a group of 21 members you can’t possibly expect your fav to be in there. It’s about profits. They will take the members who are popular/will sell and fill the rest in with members that fit the song. But that’s just my take lol.

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have you heard of the new chinese celebrity blacklist?? :0 lucas isn't there so some nctzens are hypothizing that he's actually innocent, what are your thoughts on this?

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i've been watching this lucas drama go down from the very beginning but now I don't even care if he's guilty or not

i'm just on my knees begging sm to release jalapeño LIKE COME ON THE TEASER SOUNDED SO FIRE 😭😭

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Honestly, at this point, I don’t think people will be satisfied until Lucas d*** or something. I can see people gloating and laughing if something terrible happens to him. It’s really sickening how this hate has amounted when nothing is really official. A lot of this is bandwagon hate too because no one cared/looked at him/wayv/nct or even superm. It’s just a funny joke to nitpick the most microscopic detail of him now. I don’t fucking care what people think or say, but I feel bad for him. Online bullying/comments can do serious damage to anyone especially when so much stuff has been now just out of control. I hope he and his mental health are okay and I hope he���s not reading any of this stuff and has someone to talk/help him. And some of the things people are saying/doing, I want to know if karma really exists cause they don’t have a heart/conscience.

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turning off asks cause I really don’t wanna talk about this anymore. i’ll turn them on when sm makes a move. and i’ll post my old asks without an answer. i’m sorry.

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your tone seems to have changed about this situation.

i don’t expect him to post on weibo. not because of how you think that that is his remaining fans are but because the intensity of racist comments and death threats. how can that be healthy for anyone? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Because I’m honestly tired of all the drama and just want it to end. That’s why this was blog was inactive. And yes that isn’t healthy and I don’t support those types of comments.

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sorry if this is annoying but is this about lucas posting on ig

I didn’t think anyone was gonna see that since this blog has been inactive 💀 but yeah

and if anyone’s wondering, I don’t have a strong opinion about it, I just wanna see what the next (professional) move is.

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i did see one tweet asking lumis to be nice about the sg22 and to purchase it in support of the other members. at first i thought it was a joke but it was real and i was shocked. why would they buy it? their bias isn’t even in it. and the way the majority of people treating them, telling lumis to leave the fandom and lucas to be kicked out the group, i don’t know how you can even ask for them to pay for that.

it’s hard to be ot7 when they don’t even seem to be ot7. hd posted on wb that he was hungry and someone commented to eat with her and he responded back he rather starve than eat with her. and kun said it on his radio gig iirc. and also posting the picture of the four of them at the nature/forest was another moment for the ot6 and solo stans to get super loud. i muted so many of those accounts because it was too much and these comments added more nonsense i don’t care for. it was ridiculous. i’m a believer in keeping things private. 🤷🏻‍♀️ even in my personal/work life, certain things should not be aired out in public. like if the members are angry with him, that’s between them and should not be aired out. like the more i see it, this wayv family they have been projecting has been a joke.

like you said, i understand as a celebrity not everyone will agree with their actions. i know i don’t with the recent actions but their fans are patting them on their backs going ‘well done, put ot7/lucas/lumis in their place.’ but because you are a public figure with again fans who can’t/don’t think like at all and having a sense of what is going on in social media, it’s not right or smart especially with a mob mentality and when people are sending constant death threats, shooting out racist comments/posts, even scheduling a day and time post it on wb really makes me angry. so when the members do stuff like that, subtle things, turning your head as if you don’t notice it, you are encouraging that and for me, how do i look at you as a group and still say you’re my favorite when your actions/movements are scary and in some sense dangerous. being a stan/fan for some people is like a cult. it’s such a terrible comparison because so many cults in real life are scary and deathly, but it was the first thing i thought of. so what they have done and them as a group doesn’t sit right with me especially when we don’t know the whole story. and if they know something we don’t know, fine. but you can’t “lead” a public who has been left in the unknown. and this public is your fanbase who is following, believing your actions and spewing out so much disgusting things. does that make sense? everything is based on a she said. there has been no actual he said side. and in my opinion, if solo stans and ot6 fans are convicting him then he should have his say too. everyone thinks they’re a lawyer but don’t have even one working brain cell. i know i’m not a lawyer like everyone on stan twitter apparently but doesn’t the law let you defend yourself? or give you a chance to say your piece or that you can’t be convicted of something without all the details and proof? this isn’t an attack on you, an apologies if you think/feel as if it is, but what they’re doing i don’t find comforting. they’re acting like everything is peachy has created this bigger atmosphere of toxicity that has ruined being in the wayv fandom. i hate how this has played out. well and obvious rumors stated as facts have spread like crazy. he’s a r***** now. did you know that? he went after minors. he under investigation for fraud too in china. he’s lazy. he hates his family. he talked shit about his teammates. everything was given to him. he never lifted a finger to get anything because he was favored, which i honestly find hilarious because if he was favored this would not be dragged out for this long. all these people seeing this as a joke, making up stuff, being an absolute disgusting human being, when nothing has been funny since the beginning, some of these rumors can be costly and when everyone is being loud and hiding behind a username like a coward, i’m tired.

i’m typing this up tired after a long day at work. so again, i don’t know if i have offended/upset you in any way with what i have posted. if i have, apologies again.

sorry for taking so long to reply! i've been drained and dealing with personal stuff.

i think it's sweet of that lumi. but everyone is allowed to spend their money however they want, we shouldn't judge each other for how we choose to spend it.

we can only assume what they meant when they said those things. we can only assume it was shade, but there is the possibility it wasn't. we'll never know unless we get inside their heads. if it was shade, then it might not have been cool but they probably know something we don't.

we also can't expect them to put their lives on hold or anything. plus, even if they were on good terms with lc, he needs to lay low right now so it'd be kinda dumb to post public pictures of them together right? but i can see how it'd be bad from a fan's / public's perspective.

some things are meant to be private, but they're human. sometimes they think with emotion before their brain. sometimes they make mistakes.

if you believe, their 'wayv family thing' is a joke, okay. but i personally see it differently.

think of it like this. people are always changing. you don't know what someone is up to 24/7, not even your own family members. when you learn something new about a person you were close with, when you learn something new about someone you thought you knew, your relationship and pov of that person changes.

i think they really loved each other like family, but this situation made them learn things about lc they didn't know and it changed their perception of him and changed their relationship.

honestly, i don't think celebrities sometimes post something with the thought 'oh this is gonna start ___" i think it's just a sad side effect of being famous. they can only predict a small bit of what's to happen, but can't imagine the scale. at least imo anyway.

and even if they did know, well that's a whole other issue/rant lol.

i'm gonna end up repeating myself again, but since we don't know the whole story and they likely know more than us, i think their actions give us an idea as to how bad things actually are. like how true certain allegations are, etc.

idk i personally just don't see them turning their back on him so easily if he were innocent. (assuming they did turn their back on him).

i agree that he needs to say his side, like officially and not some sm vague apology. but sadly it still wouldn't solve much beside adding the 'he said' to this 'she said' argument.

stan twt has this idea that it's guilty until proven innocent instead of innocent until proven guilty and i ugh. i honestly can't stand how they act in these types of situations and i'm gonna stop myself from ranting about it lol.

since i'm answering this late i can mention the other day i saw him trending again under several hashtags and it was just filled with people calling him a r***** and that he sa'd someone. i just ???????????????? and was also so disgusted. how do you not feel shame or bad for giving false and heavy labels to someone?

all these rumors have gotten way out of hand and it makes me sad. i want the "truth" i want the end, but i want everything to be justified and not some false labels that will ruin him more than he should be.

these labels are wrong and the more it's spread the more it'll stick and the more people will forever attach him with someone that never should have been there in the first place and that's not something he, or anyone, deserves.

i'm tired.

i'm sorry again for the late reply! and you don't need to apologize, i wasn't offended or upset. have a good day/night!

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I’m so sorry for not answering asks these past couple weeks. I’ve been really drained and dealing with personal stuff (still am) but I’ll get to them as soon as soon as I can ^^

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can i respond to your rant? 😖 i don’t think it’s all about not wanting to support the group anymore but more like it feels… weird. because there are still seven of them and some people want merchandise with all seven of them. to some, the merchandise just feels incomplete without him. i don’t know how to properly explain it.

for me, i have turned off all wayv content. i haven’t watched a wayv video in a long time either. so i can’t say what is being said there. but i do know for me i can’t look at wayv like at all right now or read twitter stuff. i think wayv fans have turned me off like a lot. talk about annoying and obnoxious. and i’m not going to lie, but the members too have turned me off. it’s not like they have done outright big things but it’s more like little things here and there that i am particularly not fond of since this situation. do their lives stop because of this? no, of course not. it’s silly to think that. but like from my pov what happened does affect the group and it’s the immediate jump back into social media as if nothing is wrong i am wary/weirded (?) of. iirc, xj did the instagram live like the next day. ten posted a shady message on bubble. hd did like a subtle dig on weibo. and kun was talking about how fans have such amazing photoshop skills and everyone was so happy cause they think he saw all those wayv pictures of lucas being cropped out. i (personally) feel these all have been directed at him. and all these incidents have added fuel to this fire of hate and toxicity. and given wayv’s history, they are very, imo, up to date with what is posted on social media about them as a group and themselves. they’re on twitter, weibo, instagram and i’m sure youtube too. some of the stuff that is being posted/spread around is truly atrocious and vile by some of their own fandom and their own solo stans. i (personally) don’t think it takes a lot of work to let your own fanbase know that it is important to be respectful to each other without actually being specific. whether they say it in bubble or a live, it’s a message that should always be said. and i also know that it’s not their job to police their own fans, but at the same time, at this point i really can’t imagine them not seeing any of it. do you know what i mean? your fans are a reflection of you to some sad degree. people can disagree and that’s okay. but i do think it’s the truth because many of these fandoms are dumb and can’t/don’t think. they “listen” to their artists’ words or follow their actions. so i don’t think it takes much to just echo the need for respect. and if your so called teammate doesn’t seem to be sending out a good message the fans won’t do it either.

i’m not trying to start something, and if you believe that, i apologize. i just think lines have been crossed and respect is lost by many sides. i also don’t know if what i wrote made any sense but this had me thinking for quite some time.

i understand it feeling incomplete without it.

idk how to put it into words so hopefully this makes sense, but i meant it that some people who claim to stan the whole group (in this case ot7's) act like they only give a fuck about the group if a certain member is in it.

to me, it's different from having a bias. even though you have a bias, being an ot7 means you still love and care about all the other members, it's just that one member stole your heart a little bit more. but imo if you were really an ot7, even if a member isn't there, you still care about the group as a whole/all the members individually and would still support them in whatever way you can.

maybe i just having a different definition of supporting all the members/being an ot7/ot8/ot9 or whatever than other people though.

just to clarify though, i'm not talking about fans who stop supporting because it becomes hard for them or anything. there are some people who have a toxic mindset/act in a toxic way and those are the people i'm complaining about.

about the second part of your ask, what did hendery say on weibo and when did kun say that and what was the context? i knew about ten and xj, but not hendery and kun.

i had a conversation with another anon before about this. when you look at how wayv acted after the scandal came out, i feel like this shows you something.

the members have to know something we don't and for them to act like nothing happened, what's going on? are things worse than we think? or did something else get revealed to them/did something else happen?

them acting like nothing happened could be a way of comforting fans, but then you look at how some members seemed to have shaded lucas and how they didn't have some sort of little break from continuing on like nothing happened and it's like what? it makes you think and wonder wtf is going on.

you can always look at the members actions to get a hint of an inside scoop, but we shouldn't look too hard/far into things as sometimes we can be wrong and start unnecessary drama.

'fans are a reflection of their idols' is one of my favorite things to say lol. we look up to them and take after them in some ways, but they are human and will do things everyone will do that might not scream 'best role model' and it's our job as another human to be able to filter out the good and the bad and act in our own personal way.

some groups i've seen lowkey encourage some of their fans bad behavior or just ignore it and i hate it. we often look at the good ways idols treat their fans, but what about other ways? i'd like an idol who disciplines fans when necessary. i can kinda understand why idols don't, but i wish they did. (sometimes they don't even discipline them as much as they should or about the thing they should. and sometimes it's such a vague ass thing they say that won't even come off as disciplining).

i don't think think you were trying to start something, don't worry ^^ and i agree, i think respect as been lost by many sides.

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Unpopular opinion… I want to know how Lucas is doing? I want to know where he is. I want to know his physical health and most importantly his mental health. I know people don’t care, but … 😔

honestly, i wouldn't mind knowing too. it would be nice to know how his support system is and just to see what's going on a little bit. even if it is just a small little vague update. there's nothing wrong with being concerned about his well being. people tend to forget that idols are still human...

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last week i saw a stray kids fan and a seventeen fan insert their special ‘dozen’ joke and wants lucas out of the group cause it’s proven he’s guilty. and it’s like didn’t both of your groups have members that were in the scandals?! did you like it when others thought your members should be leaving? weren’t you fighting for the full details? not only that but you people seem real supportive of those accused members too. never have they’ve mentioned wayv or any of the members until this moment. so many people have been making these stupid jokes for clout and a hit tweet. or they purposely make a tweet to draw more hate and drama.

i've seen the dozen joke but i don't get it 😅

i HATE it when other fandoms / non-fans insert themselves into other fandoms business. like bruh, this don't concern you gtfo. you don't like it when people do it to you so why do it to others?

these people are just attention seeking and don't give a shit about consequences. they just love causing drama and for what? are they that bored with their own lives?

as someone who doesn't have that type of mindset i seriously wonder what goes on in their heads that makes them act like that and think it's okay. do they even end up regretting it?

also people just love seeking attention and don't care if it's bad attention. it honestly makes me sad at the things people do to get attention all across social media.

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first of all i wanna say season's greetings look so good and the concept 👌👌👌i'm in love all over again

second i'm getting pissed off at the response.

i get missing lucas and all that but yall really gotta learn how to think logically. he's on hiatus, due to a pretty serious scandal, and people are still pretty heavily against him. why would he be included? from a business standpoint, he had to be excluded.

they always cater to the asian market before they cater to the international fans and you know in asia people are more anti-lc at the moment.

third, i'm sick of seeing 'true wayv fans know wayv is 7.' honestly, this doesn't even apply to just wayv, it applies to pretty much every group. being a true fan means supporting them no matter what. don't fuck over an entire group because of one person. don't ruin things for the other members because of one person.

you can miss lc, you can want him back. but stop with this 'i'm boycotting until he's back' and all things similar. if you were a true weishennie you'd support these boys no matter what was happening. they need the support right now.

the same applies if it were another member.

(solo stans and ot_ stans are different, but i'm sick of seeing all these ot7's do shit like this)

(p.s. i'm tired of seeing all the comments in wayv videos be about missing lucas. i get it you miss him and want him back but is this the entire comment section now? seeing it so often annoys me when all i want is to read some funny comments. plus that's like asking for a fanwar.)