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Dollar Shogun sez liar liar pants on woah. Breaking my brain turning into a robot at work.
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https://www.nature.com/articles/pr9201190.pdf
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And imagine the red corner having a strong repulsive force. The nature of the disorders involve the same areas of the brain but they whether they are over developed or under developed determines whether you have specific symptoms of each disorder. It is more common for all areas to be over-developed or under-developed but in some people there are a combination of both over and under developed parts.
this isn't proof, just an example of how to imagine them as the same disorder represented as 2 1 dimensional spectrums overlaid with each other in 2 dimensions.
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I had this hypothesis that autism and schizophrenia are part of the same disorder. Everyone one that replied to me said they thought I was wrong but would acknowledge that they have a shitload (like 20) of the same genetic markers.
TLDR> SSD and ASD are part of the same disorder. (most likely)
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"Schizo/Autism are spectrum disorders but I think they are the same spectrum just in a different dimension."
I feel like nobody understood this. If you didn't think of the spectrum being an X/Y chart then you got it wrong.
Saying "same spectrum" was probably bad wording but it was the best way I could think to describe it with just imagining this up while taking into consideration everything I know about both disorders. Now that I have done more research I can describe it better. They have the same underlying causes in relation to genetics and neurological development. It's all a matter of how your genes are expressed during brain development that determines which parts of each of the disorders you end up having. They both affect many similar parts of the brain but if those parts of the brain or under developed or over developed determines which spectrum symptom you have. It gets more intricate than that though, also the structure of these neurons in these parts of the brain can determine what symptoms you have.
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ASD and schizophrenia/psychosis have been proposed to be on two ends of a spectrum related to the social brain.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5906088/
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Conclusion: There is significant boundary overlap between autism spectrum disorder and schizophrenia spectrum disorder.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27311754/
This next article seems to indicate that SSD and ASD are highly related and that how the genes are expressed in different sections of the brain determines whether it's a schizophrenic symptom or autistic symptom.
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Evidence regarding the genetic, physiological, neurological, and psychological underpinnings of psychotic-spectrum conditions supports the hypothesis that the etiologies of these conditions involve biases towards increased relative effects from imprinted genes with maternal expression, which engender a general pattern of undergrowth. By contrast, autistic-spectrum conditions appear to involve increased relative bias towards effects of paternally expressed genes, which mediate overgrowth. This hypothesis provides a simple yet comprehensive theory, grounded in evolutionary biology and genetics, for understanding the causes and phenotypes of autistic-spectrum and psychotic-spectrum conditions.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18578904/
And this final one also confirms my original hypothesis that it's all the same sort of problem.
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Results: Cognitive performance analysis confirms the convergence of abnormalities of people with autism and people with schizophrenia on 1st and 2nd order theory of mind, emotion processing and social perception. Quantitative results show reduced performance in ASD compared to SZ and Ct groups. Differences were observed between ASD and SZ regarding social situation comprehension, visual orientation and visuospatial exploration strategies, and attributional style highlighting different strategies on intentional process. Brain imaging studies show that people with autism present a reduced cerebral activity in several key regions of theory of mind (cingulate regions, superior temporal sulcus, paracentral lobule), and emotional treatment (primary and secondary somatosensory regions), while people with SZ exhibit an inappropriate increased activity in these regions.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30122298/
It's like... how can everyone know that SSD and ASD have like 20 of the same genetic markers and not put the pieces of the puzzle together. SSD and ASD research teams need to be working together on this problem.
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hash tag fucking pissed...
When I wasn’t sure that I had autism I would talk to my therapists about all of the symptoms I thought could possibly be related. Most everything I brought up was quickly dismissed with no further investigation.
I often times have problems recognizing clearly visible objects that are in my field of view especially when there are a lot of things and they are laid out randomly and chaotic. I was having a hard time describing it and maybe I used the wrong words but I said something like “I have a hard time seeing things that are right in front of my face like when I’m looking for something”. I got told to go see an eye doctor.
Please start training psychologists on autism and recognizing symptoms?
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Some individuals have learned to use their visual hypersensitivities to their advantage by cultivating an enhanced ability to visualize experienced events and to manipulate images associated with these memories in an complex detailed fashion.7,29 Temple Grandin, an animal science professor who has autism described in her book, Thinking in Pictures, “When I do an equipment simulation in my imagination or work on an engineering problem, it is like seeing a video tape in my mind, I can view it from any angle, placing myself above or below the equipment and rotating it at the same time... I create new images all the time by taking many little parts of images I have in the video library in my imagination and piecing them together. I have video memories of every item I’ve ever worked with.”30Visual hypersensitivity may also promote superior visual search abilities in children with autism, possibly by heightened feature discriminability or failure to inhibit reception of some information.31Hypo-sensitivity to visual information can also occur as individuals with ASD struggle to regulate their level of alertness, body position, touch and auditory stimuli. When too much information is present, the individual may become overwhelmed or saturated by other stimuli so that they are unable to process visual information.23,32
https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.covd.org/resource/resmgr/certification_study_guide/understanding_visual_symptom.pdf
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I am a strange loop.
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My therapist said this was described to her as when one is future-thinking or forward-thinking, always thinking of the future. I must correct her on that.
from τέλος, telos, 'end', 'aim', or 'goal,' and λόγος, logos, 'explanation' or 'reason'
Reading the wiki I feel like I have a better understanding of Teleology than the people that wrote the wiki. I could be wrong but to me it’s more about seeing things from all perspectives at once rather than just from YOUR perspective or just the human perspective.
Once you are able to hold in your mind multiple perspectives about a subject than it becomes very easy to understand the true nature of the subject. -KY
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