thyccandtyred

[thyccandtyred]

The post is in no way saying men don't experience fatphobia. The amount of men replying to this thread saying the same thing about these men being the butt of the jokes in their careers is ridiculous. You're responding to deflect and speak over women.

I make a post saying "fat women experience fatphobia in this way" and the response from fat men is "fat men experience fatphobia too" which has nothing to do with what this post is about. Whether intentional or not, these responses are an attempt to center the conversation on men when the whole post was about intersectional fatphobia that effects women.

And if you guys actually cared about the fatphobia these men have faced in their lifetime, respond to the posts I've made about those men and men I didn't even list. But stop stop jumping on this post to talk about that. Or, better yet, make your own posts.

I just realized I've never once heard that Jack Black, John Goodman, Josh Gad, John Favreau, John Candy, John Belushi, Chris Farley, or any of the other fat male celebrities are "promoting obesity." Not once in my life. That is almost solely reserved for fat woman.

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It's weird, but when I see incels talk about how much they hate people who look like me, I get such a confidence boost. My mind would overcome any amount of self-hatred if not doing so meant agreeing with incels. It's like

Mind: you're ugly

Incel: you're ugly

Mind:

[thyccandtyred]

"I've only heard it about the ones who are actively doing so."

Meaning you believe these women are "promoting obesity" so this specific aspect of fatphobia they experience is justified.

It's all coming off as very dismissive dude.

I just realized I've never once heard that Jack Black, John Goodman, Josh Gad, John Favreau, John Candy, John Belushi, Chris Farley, or any of the other fat male celebrities are "promoting obesity." Not once in my life. That is almost solely reserved for fat woman.

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You're replying to a post specifically about the how fatphobia intersects with misogyny. The post is literally about a specific aspect of fatphobia that disproportionately effects fat women and your response is "yeah well they deserve it"

So, yeah, you aren't a part of the marginalized group this post is talking about and your reply is misogynistic.

I just realized I've never once heard that Jack Black, John Goodman, Josh Gad, John Favreau, John Candy, John Belushi, Chris Farley, or any of the other fat male celebrities are "promoting obesity." Not once in my life. That is almost solely reserved for fat woman.

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Yes! And there we have some random dude attempting to discredit the lived experiences of a marginalized group he is not a part of. I'll be sure to add it to the trash pile 🤷‍♀️

I just realized I've never once heard that Jack Black, John Goodman, Josh Gad, John Favreau, John Candy, John Belushi, Chris Farley, or any of the other fat male celebrities are "promoting obesity." Not once in my life. That is almost solely reserved for fat woman.

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The media coverage of Rebel Wilson's and Adele's weightloss was fatphobic, not their weightloss itself. Though, the way they themselves have discussed their weightloss can be considered fatphobic and was very alienating for some fans.

I just realized I've never once heard that Jack Black, John Goodman, Josh Gad, John Favreau, John Candy, John Belushi, Chris Farley, or any of the other fat male celebrities are "promoting obesity." Not once in my life. That is almost solely reserved for fat woman.

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To be fair, fat women ARE beautiful and health, regardless of weight, is not a prerequisite for respect or a moral judgment to be handed down.

But, you know, thanks for your decades-old, freezing-cold, misogynistic take on fat women, I guess. 🤷‍♀️

I just realized I’ve never once heard that Jack Black, John Goodman, Josh Gad, John Favreau, John Candy, John Belushi, Chris Farley, or any of the other fat male celebrities are “promoting obesity.” Not once in my life. That is almost solely reserved for fat woman.

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I saw Jackass Forever a few days ago and it reminded me of one of my favorite Johnny Knoxville movies, Weightless.

Before film critics jump in about how this movie was awful and underdeveloped, let me say I don't care. I liked the pacing, the music, the characters, and the dialog. Could it have been better? Definitely! But given that it was a low budget, debut film dealing with mental illness, childhood trauma, and weight stigma, it didn't have the same resources as movies that deal with more mainstream topics.

Anyway, you can find this movie on HBOMax. It's about a quiet man named Joel who has a history of mental illness and is pretty clearly neurodivergent. He gets a call that his ex-wife has abandoned his estranged 10 year old son, Will. Will is a lot like his father. He's very quiet and thoughtful but he's traumatized by his mother's abandonment. The two of them struggle with the new changes and find support in each other, even if they know it won't last long.

It's a very atmospheric movie and uses silence so beautifully. What I loved most was the nondialogic acting. There are moments when the camera looks at the actors and you can see the unspoken words on their faces. It requires you to think about how the might be feeling and asks you to put yourself in the character's position.

It's not a perfect film, but it was refreshing.

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All the thin people on tiktok are upset over people saying the body positive movement wasn't made for them because they believe sooooo strongly in the idea of beauty binary opposition. They have no clue they are openly admitting that they not only support but benefit from a system that gives value to their bodies by devaluing marginalized bodies.

They hear "fat bodies are beautiful" and think "thin bodies are ugly" because when they say "thin bodies are beautiful" what they are also saying is "fat bodies are ugly."

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Reviving this blog to say I don't watch This Is Us but I just learned that the children of the two fat actors are thin??? I'm confused. It's really hard to not see a fatphobic bias in media when fatness is depicted as a moral failure or lack of discipline. Size, weight and fat distribution are often inherited traits, just like eye color, hair texture, and facial features. But the inherent fatphobia in media treats fat kids as worthless and unsympathetic so they would rather not include them in plots. Think about it like this:

Most families in media are thin parents with thin children. Occasionally you'll get fat parents, but not often bc that would involve making fat characters. Most of the time, fat characters have thin children. Even more rarely, thin characters have fat children. This is a problem because it not only underrepresents fat children in media but also treats fatness as something that happens TO a character instead of a natural variation in body type.

I was a fat kid and I rarely ever saw myself in media. I remember talking to my therapist when I was maybe 10. I told her I thought my parents were ashamed of me because I was fat (my parents were fat too but there was a lot of internalized fatphobia). I cried to her because, while getting a snack, I had the thought "eating is fun", which I believed to be a bad thought. I genuinely had to be told by this adult that it wasn't a bad thought. That I wasn't a bad person for enjoying food while fat.

Fat representation is important but if we're only showing fat adults in media, we are doing a disservice to our children. Fat kids deserve to see themselves in media, and not just an older version of them. And if you as a writer and/or creator can't do that, it tells me you lack the skill and empathy to write any good character and that I shouldn't bother with your work. 🤷‍♀️

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CW: Teen death, fatphobia

Please boost this. Take the screenshots from this post and/or post your own. Share this wherever you want.

So this is something that has been making me cry. I saw a news article about a 16 year old named Drake Geiger who recently passed away due to heat stroke. His football team was practicing in 106°F (about 41C) heat. I saw the picture of him so I knew exactly how this was going to be spun. This kid is dead and but the articles are mentioning his weight and the people commenting are saying it's because he was fat.

Screenshots are below but this is what I mean when I say people are just straight up heartless towards fat kids and it's a big problem. This isn't just for thin people either. Plenty of people in the body positive community are ignorant to or actively avoiding talking about fatphobia's effect on children. Part of the reason for this is because a lot of the most popular fat voices are people who didn't grow up fat so they are completely unaware of just how cruel people are to fat kids. I grew up fat and I can tell you, every rude comment and every bit of prejudice fat adults face, fat kids face too. And that's shaping their world view.

My heart is breaking for this kid and his family. I won't be blocking out the names since these people commented on a public post to insult the weight of a dead teenager.

Also. Notice how the article only mentions the weight of the kids who died of heatstroke if they were fat. 4 teens died THIS MONTH of heat stroke but let's bring up the weight of only two of them.

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I'm starting to question whether I'm truly unlearning fatphobia by loving my body or am I just getting better at mimicking thin ideals and "acceptable fat" looks.

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I'm gonna start calling straight sizes "negative sizes". Not because I have an issue with the concept of plus size but because thin people seem to. I'll go into a mall like

"yeah I can shop in the regular sizes but sometimes the negative sizes have cute clothes that I can alter or repurpose."

"What do you mean I'm taking clothing options away from negative sized people?"

"Why would they make this in a negative size? No person who's a size -3 would look good in this"

"Well they have to make the negative sizes more expensive. How else would they make up for the excess pieces that are always put in clearance or sold at a loss? It's not thinphobia, it's just businesses. 🤷‍♀️"

[thyccandtyred]

I do believe this was made in response to tinder culture

Sometimes I think the problem isn't tinder. Maybe it's just the disproportionate amount of effort society expects women to put into their attractability compared to men? Most of the complaints I see about tinder are actually complaints about how men act on Tinder but they would act that way regardless of the site.

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Hey just wanted to let you know a p0rn blog was following you

http://ade5039.tumblr.com

seems like it's deleted. Porn accounts don't bother me as long as they aren't sexualizing and fetishizing people without their permission. I'm guessing this one was but I should also mention that this page supports SWs and recognizes that SWs do a lot for body positivity and fat liberation.

Porn bots can fuck off but SWs are welcome here

[thyccandtyred]

Hi! Just wanted to drop a quick ask and say I am, I promise, a real person. I don't really post on Tumblr but have been using it to follow fat-positive writers to start feeling better about my body and to see folx that look like me. If you'd like me to unfollow, I'm happy to- I know some folx don't like blanks following them. In any case, your blog has made my day and I hope you are having a lovely one yourself :)

Why would people care if an account has nothing on it? Seems odd

As long as you don't post and promote bigoted ideology, I don't see a problem. Do what you gotta do to work on a positive self image