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Troll Kid: "I've fought off som' blooddin' gobbins and won. Can you say the same for yourself?"

Boy: "Yeh"

Troll: "OH Really?! What e've you done?"

Boy: "Shot a bitch."

Childlings: "....."

Boy; "Oh uh, I mean- I have brought low an enemy from the night with my favored weapon. A blooddrinker who dared challenge my family and threaten their safety."

Childlings: "ooohh." *Nods of approval

Nocker Kid: "Yeah see the truth of the world is that everything is basically fake and that everything fake is basically realy. You can do whatever you want if you can know that you can. Did you know that?"

Boy: *recalling that his grand pappy told him something similar that morning. And two days ago. And last month. And the month before when he was high on some SUPER Weed*

Boy: "WELL duh. Everyone should know that"

A fun idea for a Boy centered story: Boy going on an adventure with a group of Childlings (changeling children) and them not realizing that he's not a changeling.

Boy doesn't know they're fae either cause he just thinks they're doing a form of really cool roleplay, he even calls himself Akira Cross when around them, and they don't realize he's not a changeling because he's so used to the supernatural that he easily just goes along with anything they say.

Young Sidhe Girl: "Remember everone: The right mirror can act as gateways into our homeland of Arcadia, but that can be as much of a danger as it is a boon"

Boy: "Makes sense. My grand-pappy ALWAYS told me about all types of mirror. Friendly mirrors, magic mirrors, evil mirrors. He said that mirrors are like tricksters and they keep the secret of how they work to themselves like greedy bear people who steal people's picnic baskets."

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Young Sidhe: *pulls out a plastic toy sword that their chimeriac weapon* "Behold my sword of legends! It is capable of cutting through many a material and dissuading any foe."

Boy: "Woah! So Cool!"

Boy: "Wanna see my gun?" *pulls out his snub nose pistol*

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I would duel Yttris to the death for that sexy mama

Is saw the update, glad you guys are back. I really loke the animation and Coin Operated Boy fit Renity worryingly well.

Also the way she was drawn some ways made by eyes go cartoonishly out of their sockets all 'Awooga' like

Im glad you liked the animation, it took forever to make due to my terrible work schedule, and because my computer died and I had to reset it losing all previous WIP for the animation, so what you see is the product of redoing everything from scratch

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i still got some ideas

Question: Due to Trolls tendency to be either strange continuations or direct opposites of their ancestors, is it possible to somehow get an idea of what the Beforus Ancestors were like?

besides feferi, nope! lol.

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A fun idea for a Boy centered story: Boy going on an adventure with a group of Childlings (changeling children) and them not realizing that he's not a changeling.

Boy doesn't know they're fae either cause he just thinks they're doing a form of really cool roleplay, he even calls himself Akira Cross when around them, and they don't realize he's not a changeling because he's so used to the supernatural that he easily just goes along with anything they say.

Young Sidhe Girl: "Remember everone: The right mirror can act as gateways into our homeland of Arcadia, but that can be as much of a danger as it is a boon"

Boy: "Makes sense. My grand-pappy ALWAYS told me about all types of mirror. Friendly mirrors, magic mirrors, evil mirrors. He said that mirrors are like tricksters and they keep the secret of how they work to themselves like greedy bear people who steal people's picnic baskets."

--

Young Sidhe: *pulls out a plastic toy sword that their chimeriac weapon* "Behold my sword of legends! It is capable of cutting through many a material and dissuading any foe."

Boy: "Woah! So Cool!"

Boy: "Wanna see my gun?" *pulls out his snub nose pistol*

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Never thought of it that way.

Also it's kinda fucked that we're calling a man never seeing his child again, "hilarious".

It's like Cain is on his knees weeping over a memory of his beloved child and where just right next to him going "lol, lmao"

First Family: Adam Firstman, Eve Firstman, Seth Adamson, Cain Adamson, Abel Adamson.

Heavenbound AU

Hazbin Masterpost

Since only Abel is currently in canon, I had a lot of wiggle room to decide how I wanted to go about this. In some ways that's easier, in others it's harder.

More under the cut

--Bible Story--

The basic story is that Cain was a farmer and Abel was a shepherd. Both offered sacrificial offerings to God. Abel offered the best of his flock. Cain offered some of his crops, but there was no mention of the quality of it. So it's implied that Cain did not offer his best. It was either average or sub-par.

God was pleased with Abel's offering, but not with Cain's. Cain was upset that Abel was favored over him. So out of jealousy, he killed Abel.

As punishment for murdering his brother, Cain was cursed, 1) to be a wanderer and a fugitive 2) he could no longer farm, because the ground would no longer produce crops for him.

God gave him a mark, so others would know who he was and not to harm him(because vengeance and judgement is only for God to enact). Nobody was allowed to kill or harm him. If they did, the damage would be returned sevenfold.

After Cain's banishment, Seth was born and considered to be a replacement for Abel.

-personal interpretation: I consider the story of Adam and Eve to be representative of the evolution of ape to sapient humans. In a similar vein, I consider the story of Cain and Abel to be a representation of humans' ability to sin, due to the knowledge of good and evil that came from Adam and Eve having eaten the fruit. Without getting too deep into any specific theology or nuances, sin is to knowingly and intentionally do bad things. Repenting is to continuously learn and change to become a better person. God's goal for us is our personal growth and improvement.

-Mark of Cain: it's not clear what the mark was, or if it was even visible. It was some sort of sign that warned people who he was. The idea of the mark being dark skin and that black people are Cain's descendents is not supported by the Bible. That was a medieval christian idea that was used to justify racism, discrimination, and slavery well into the 1800s. It's, thankfully, not widely accepted anymore.

-Folklore: There's another myth floating around that Cain is Bigfoot, cursed to wander the earth for eternity. Although the Bible does not say that he would live forever, just that he wouldn't be killed. It's silly, but it served as inspiration for Cain's demon form.

--Alterations for the Heavenbound AU--

-Birth Order: It is never stated that either Cain or Abel are the firstborn. There could have been other children born before them that go unnamed. That's ultimately not important, so we're sticking with the three who are named for now. The bible only specifies that Seth was born after Abel's death. But I'm going to change that around a bit because I can take artistic liberties. Seth is the oldest now.

-Each son represents a lifestyle of early humans. Hunter-Gatherer and Agricultural(agronomy is growing crops, pastoral is raising livestock).

--Seth--

-Mortal: Because the lifestyles of Cain and Abel are pretty well defined by their biblical roles, Seth represents the hunter-gatherer lifestyle. But that means I had to change him to be the oldest, since that came before agriculture. This gives him a bigger role in the family dynamic.

After Abel's death, he and his family(unspecified wife and kids) had to take over the responsibilities of Cain and Abel. Seth himself favored shepherding over farming, since his hunting skills could transfer to that a little better than to raising crops.

Because he's a hunter, his clothing is composed of primarily animal skins and furs. I wanted him to look sturdy and strong, so he's a bit stocky.

-Postmortal design: his halo has a crosshair design to reference his hunter lifestyle. I don't really care that it wouldn't have applied to his time period. It gets the idea across for us, and I think that matters more. He is one of the most dangerous soldiers of the exorcist army. And he is somewhat annoyed he can't exterminate Cain.

--Cain--

-Mortal: Represents agronomy (growing crops). He's a farmer.

His clothing would be made of plant-based fibers, like linen or cotton. I based his design off of Aaron from Dreamwork's The Prince of Egypt. I liked the tall, lanky look. It felt like a natural choice, since I based Adam off of Dreamwork's Moses.

Mark of Cain: during his life, I'll probably depict the mark as a symbol on his forehead. It's better than going the mark=dark skin route. His skin is a little darker than the other two, but that was because I was thinking of a farmer's tan, so it's unrelated to the mark.

-Postmortal: Because he's a wanderer, he has the ability to go between earth and hell(also because I want there to be bigfoot sightings, lol). Maybe it would be obligatory that he has to wander earth for 7 years, then wander hell for 7 years, then back to earth, etc. To force him to be nomadic. Idk for sure. He is easily identifiable by the mark that floats over his head(not typically visible to living humans on earth). The exorcists are forbidden from exterminating him(much to Seth's frustration). The other sinners can't hurt him either. He's essentially untouchable, but has no significant power compared to other sinners. He can't sell his soul, even if he wanted to, and he can't take other's souls. He's just lonely and miserable now. Cursed to wander, and can never truly rest.

--Abel--

-Mortal:

He represents the pastoral lifestyle and is a shepherd. I've got a bit about sheep HERE

In canon, he's blonde. But since I redesigned his parents, I had to change his color palette too. I gave them a more Middle Eastern inspired look, since they're based on ancient Hebrew characters.

I wanted him to look young and innocent, to emphasize the tragedy of his death. I kept the chubby look from canon because I thought it fit the vibe. He's the youngest of the brothers. His clothing consists of animal fibers like wool and possibly some sheepskins.

-Postmortal: His halo has a stylized ram symbol because of his background as a shepherd. He plays the bugle/trumpet and leads his merry band of sheep cherubim. He wears a marching band uniform, despite the concept not existing while he was alive. He fell in love with it in the afterlife. I altered the canon design so I could wrap my head around the construction of it, and also to simplify it a bit cuz Hazbin has a habit of overcomplicating designs.

He has a hard time seeing himself as much beyond "Adam's son--the one that was murdered". So he's got some low self-confidence issues and is a bit of a people pleaser and is non-confrontational. He would prefer to just hang out with his sheep. He needs to learn to accept his role as more than just the first murder victim.

--Animal companions--

Because I like dogs and sheep and spent too much time thinking about them, I'm including a bit here.

Seth: The domestication of dogs happened pretty early in human civilization. So I gave him a wolf dog that he probably would had as a hunting companion in life. They're big doggos.

But I didn't stop there. I wanted to combine various aspects of different breeds of hunting dogs. So I combined a German wirehaired pointer(I like the eyebrows and mustache) with the tri-coloring of a Foxhound and Coonhound, and long ears like a Beagle. Basically a sighthound and scenthount cross. The idea was to give him a multipurpose hunting hound. Sighthounds visually locate and retrieve prey, scenthounds follow prey's scent and alert the hunter. Beagles, especially, do not shut up(my family dog is a beagle).

Cain: I figured a farmer would want help with pest control. So, a cat to deal with mice. But there are also dogs for small game and pests too. So I gave him a terrier. It's mainly based off a rat terrier.

Abel: Shepherds often use two types of dogs for very different purposes. Herding dogs are obvious. And border collies are well renowned for their intelligence and herding skill. They're a bit more gentle than other herding breeds(ie heelers will nip at cattles' legs to encourage them to move), that gentleness is helpful for sheep especially, because you want to reduce as much stress as possible (stress affects the wool quality, which can be a big deal). But I was also inspired by the Austrailian Shepherds' multicolor coat. The two can look pretty similar.

The other type of sheep dog is a Livestock Guardian Dog(aka LGD). They are raised with the sheep and will protect them from wolves or coyotes, maybe even sheep thieves. They're massive dogs, and will sometimes be given a wicked-looking spiked collar(called an antiwolf heck collar) that protects their neck from predator attacks. Great Pyrenese and Maremma Sheepdogs are a couple popular breeds, but there are quite a few that are big, fluffy, and often white-furred. They can be super sweet, but don't approach their flock of sheep without permission, cuz you don't want to make them angry.

I think that's all.

(Edit notes will go here if needed)

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First Family: Adam Firstman, Eve Firstman, Seth Adamson, Cain Adamson, Abel Adamson.

Heavenbound AU

Hazbin Masterpost

Since only Abel is currently in canon, I had a lot of wiggle room to decide how I wanted to go about this. In some ways that's easier, in others it's harder.

More under the cut

--Bible Story--

The basic story is that Cain was a farmer and Abel was a shepherd. Both offered sacrificial offerings to God. Abel offered the best of his flock. Cain offered some of his crops, but there was no mention of the quality of it. So it's implied that Cain did not offer his best. It was either average or sub-par.

God was pleased with Abel's offering, but not with Cain's. Cain was upset that Abel was favored over him. So out of jealousy, he killed Abel.

As punishment for murdering his brother, Cain was cursed, 1) to be a wanderer and a fugitive 2) he could no longer farm, because the ground would no longer produce crops for him.

God gave him a mark, so others would know who he was and not to harm him(because vengeance and judgement is only for God to enact). Nobody was allowed to kill or harm him. If they did, the damage would be returned sevenfold.

After Cain's banishment, Seth was born and considered to be a replacement for Abel.

-personal interpretation: I consider the story of Adam and Eve to be representative of the evolution of ape to sapient humans. In a similar vein, I consider the story of Cain and Abel to be a representation of humans' ability to sin, due to the knowledge of good and evil that came from Adam and Eve having eaten the fruit. Without getting too deep into any specific theology or nuances, sin is to knowingly and intentionally do bad things. Repenting is to continuously learn and change to become a better person. God's goal for us is our personal growth and improvement.

-Mark of Cain: it's not clear what the mark was, or if it was even visible. It was some sort of sign that warned people who he was. The idea of the mark being dark skin and that black people are Cain's descendents is not supported by the Bible. That was a medieval christian idea that was used to justify racism, discrimination, and slavery well into the 1800s. It's, thankfully, not widely accepted anymore.

-Folklore: There's another myth floating around that Cain is Bigfoot, cursed to wander the earth for eternity. Although the Bible does not say that he would live forever, just that he wouldn't be killed. It's silly, but it served as inspiration for Cain's demon form.

--Alterations for the Heavenbound AU--

-Birth Order: It is never stated that either Cain or Abel are the firstborn. There could have been other children born before them that go unnamed. That's ultimately not important, so we're sticking with the three who are named for now. The bible only specifies that Seth was born after Abel's death. But I'm going to change that around a bit because I can take artistic liberties. Seth is the oldest now.

-Each son represents a lifestyle of early humans. Hunter-Gatherer and Agricultural(agronomy is growing crops, pastoral is raising livestock).

--Seth--

-Mortal: Because the lifestyles of Cain and Abel are pretty well defined by their biblical roles, Seth represents the hunter-gatherer lifestyle. But that means I had to change him to be the oldest, since that came before agriculture. This gives him a bigger role in the family dynamic.

After Abel's death, he and his family(unspecified wife and kids) had to take over the responsibilities of Cain and Abel. Seth himself favored shepherding over farming, since his hunting skills could transfer to that a little better than to raising crops.

Because he's a hunter, his clothing is composed of primarily animal skins and furs. I wanted him to look sturdy and strong, so he's a bit stocky.

-Postmortal design: his halo has a crosshair design to reference his hunter lifestyle. I don't really care that it wouldn't have applied to his time period. It gets the idea across for us, and I think that matters more. He is one of the most dangerous soldiers of the exorcist army. And he is somewhat annoyed he can't exterminate Cain.

--Cain--

-Mortal: Represents agronomy (growing crops). He's a farmer.

His clothing would be made of plant-based fibers, like linen or cotton. I based his design off of Aaron from Dreamwork's The Prince of Egypt. I liked the tall, lanky look. It felt like a natural choice, since I based Adam off of Dreamwork's Moses.

Mark of Cain: during his life, I'll probably depict the mark as a symbol on his forehead. It's better than going the mark=dark skin route. His skin is a little darker than the other two, but that was because I was thinking of a farmer's tan, so it's unrelated to the mark.

-Postmortal: Because he's a wanderer, he has the ability to go between earth and hell(also because I want there to be bigfoot sightings, lol). Maybe it would be obligatory that he has to wander earth for 7 years, then wander hell for 7 years, then back to earth, etc. To force him to be nomadic. Idk for sure. He is easily identifiable by the mark that floats over his head(not typically visible to living humans on earth). The exorcists are forbidden from exterminating him(much to Seth's frustration). The other sinners can't hurt him either. He's essentially untouchable, but has no significant power compared to other sinners. He can't sell his soul, even if he wanted to, and he can't take other's souls. He's just lonely and miserable now. Cursed to wander, and can never truly rest.

--Abel--

-Mortal:

He represents the pastoral lifestyle and is a shepherd. I've got a bit about sheep HERE

In canon, he's blonde. But since I redesigned his parents, I had to change his color palette too. I gave them a more Middle Eastern inspired look, since they're based on ancient Hebrew characters.

I wanted him to look young and innocent, to emphasize the tragedy of his death. I kept the chubby look from canon because I thought it fit the vibe. He's the youngest of the brothers. His clothing consists of animal fibers like wool and possibly some sheepskins.

-Postmortal: His halo has a stylized ram symbol because of his background as a shepherd. He plays the bugle/trumpet and leads his merry band of sheep cherubim. He wears a marching band uniform, despite the concept not existing while he was alive. He fell in love with it in the afterlife. I altered the canon design so I could wrap my head around the construction of it, and also to simplify it a bit cuz Hazbin has a habit of overcomplicating designs.

He has a hard time seeing himself as much beyond "Adam's son--the one that was murdered". So he's got some low self-confidence issues and is a bit of a people pleaser and is non-confrontational. He would prefer to just hang out with his sheep. He needs to learn to accept his role as more than just the first murder victim.

--Animal companions--

Because I like dogs and sheep and spent too much time thinking about them, I'm including a bit here.

Seth: The domestication of dogs happened pretty early in human civilization. So I gave him a wolf dog that he probably would had as a hunting companion in life. They're big doggos.

But I didn't stop there. I wanted to combine various aspects of different breeds of hunting dogs. So I combined a German wirehaired pointer(I like the eyebrows and mustache) with the tri-coloring of a Foxhound and Coonhound, and long ears like a Beagle. Basically a sighthound and scenthount cross. The idea was to give him a multipurpose hunting hound. Sighthounds visually locate and retrieve prey, scenthounds follow prey's scent and alert the hunter. Beagles, especially, do not shut up(my family dog is a beagle).

Cain: I figured a farmer would want help with pest control. So, a cat to deal with mice. But there are also dogs for small game and pests too. So I gave him a terrier. It's mainly based off a rat terrier.

Abel: Shepherds often use two types of dogs for very different purposes. Herding dogs are obvious. And border collies are well renowned for their intelligence and herding skill. They're a bit more gentle than other herding breeds(ie heelers will nip at cattles' legs to encourage them to move), that gentleness is helpful for sheep especially, because you want to reduce as much stress as possible (stress affects the wool quality, which can be a big deal). But I was also inspired by the Austrailian Shepherds' multicolor coat. The two can look pretty similar.

The other type of sheep dog is a Livestock Guardian Dog(aka LGD). They are raised with the sheep and will protect them from wolves or coyotes, maybe even sheep thieves. They're massive dogs, and will sometimes be given a wicked-looking spiked collar(called an antiwolf heck collar) that protects their neck from predator attacks. Great Pyrenese and Maremma Sheepdogs are a couple popular breeds, but there are quite a few that are big, fluffy, and often white-furred. They can be super sweet, but don't approach their flock of sheep without permission, cuz you don't want to make them angry.

I think that's all.

(Edit notes will go here if needed)

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i have two words to say:

Hurray

Awwooga (you already know what that ones for)

Finally back to regular updates baybeeee

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No I know about the other Enoch.

What I'm saying is that there are no Sin's of the father. Enoch was his own man, what Cain did was not his sin

First Family: Adam Firstman, Eve Firstman, Seth Adamson, Cain Adamson, Abel Adamson.

Heavenbound AU

Hazbin Masterpost

Since only Abel is currently in canon, I had a lot of wiggle room to decide how I wanted to go about this. In some ways that's easier, in others it's harder.

More under the cut

--Bible Story--

The basic story is that Cain was a farmer and Abel was a shepherd. Both offered sacrificial offerings to God. Abel offered the best of his flock. Cain offered some of his crops, but there was no mention of the quality of it. So it's implied that Cain did not offer his best. It was either average or sub-par.

God was pleased with Abel's offering, but not with Cain's. Cain was upset that Abel was favored over him. So out of jealousy, he killed Abel.

As punishment for murdering his brother, Cain was cursed, 1) to be a wanderer and a fugitive 2) he could no longer farm, because the ground would no longer produce crops for him.

God gave him a mark, so others would know who he was and not to harm him(because vengeance and judgement is only for God to enact). Nobody was allowed to kill or harm him. If they did, the damage would be returned sevenfold.

After Cain's banishment, Seth was born and considered to be a replacement for Abel.

-personal interpretation: I consider the story of Adam and Eve to be representative of the evolution of ape to sapient humans. In a similar vein, I consider the story of Cain and Abel to be a representation of humans' ability to sin, due to the knowledge of good and evil that came from Adam and Eve having eaten the fruit. Without getting too deep into any specific theology or nuances, sin is to knowingly and intentionally do bad things. Repenting is to continuously learn and change to become a better person. God's goal for us is our personal growth and improvement.

-Mark of Cain: it's not clear what the mark was, or if it was even visible. It was some sort of sign that warned people who he was. The idea of the mark being dark skin and that black people are Cain's descendents is not supported by the Bible. That was a medieval christian idea that was used to justify racism, discrimination, and slavery well into the 1800s. It's, thankfully, not widely accepted anymore.

-Folklore: There's another myth floating around that Cain is Bigfoot, cursed to wander the earth for eternity. Although the Bible does not say that he would live forever, just that he wouldn't be killed. It's silly, but it served as inspiration for Cain's demon form.

--Alterations for the Heavenbound AU--

-Birth Order: It is never stated that either Cain or Abel are the firstborn. There could have been other children born before them that go unnamed. That's ultimately not important, so we're sticking with the three who are named for now. The bible only specifies that Seth was born after Abel's death. But I'm going to change that around a bit because I can take artistic liberties. Seth is the oldest now.

-Each son represents a lifestyle of early humans. Hunter-Gatherer and Agricultural(agronomy is growing crops, pastoral is raising livestock).

--Seth--

-Mortal: Because the lifestyles of Cain and Abel are pretty well defined by their biblical roles, Seth represents the hunter-gatherer lifestyle. But that means I had to change him to be the oldest, since that came before agriculture. This gives him a bigger role in the family dynamic.

After Abel's death, he and his family(unspecified wife and kids) had to take over the responsibilities of Cain and Abel. Seth himself favored shepherding over farming, since his hunting skills could transfer to that a little better than to raising crops.

Because he's a hunter, his clothing is composed of primarily animal skins and furs. I wanted him to look sturdy and strong, so he's a bit stocky.

-Postmortal design: his halo has a crosshair design to reference his hunter lifestyle. I don't really care that it wouldn't have applied to his time period. It gets the idea across for us, and I think that matters more. He is one of the most dangerous soldiers of the exorcist army. And he is somewhat annoyed he can't exterminate Cain.

--Cain--

-Mortal: Represents agronomy (growing crops). He's a farmer.

His clothing would be made of plant-based fibers, like linen or cotton. I based his design off of Aaron from Dreamwork's The Prince of Egypt. I liked the tall, lanky look. It felt like a natural choice, since I based Adam off of Dreamwork's Moses.

Mark of Cain: during his life, I'll probably depict the mark as a symbol on his forehead. It's better than going the mark=dark skin route. His skin is a little darker than the other two, but that was because I was thinking of a farmer's tan, so it's unrelated to the mark.

-Postmortal: Because he's a wanderer, he has the ability to go between earth and hell(also because I want there to be bigfoot sightings, lol). Maybe it would be obligatory that he has to wander earth for 7 years, then wander hell for 7 years, then back to earth, etc. To force him to be nomadic. Idk for sure. He is easily identifiable by the mark that floats over his head(not typically visible to living humans on earth). The exorcists are forbidden from exterminating him(much to Seth's frustration). The other sinners can't hurt him either. He's essentially untouchable, but has no significant power compared to other sinners. He can't sell his soul, even if he wanted to, and he can't take other's souls. He's just lonely and miserable now. Cursed to wander, and can never truly rest.

--Abel--

-Mortal:

He represents the pastoral lifestyle and is a shepherd. I've got a bit about sheep HERE

In canon, he's blonde. But since I redesigned his parents, I had to change his color palette too. I gave them a more Middle Eastern inspired look, since they're based on ancient Hebrew characters.

I wanted him to look young and innocent, to emphasize the tragedy of his death. I kept the chubby look from canon because I thought it fit the vibe. He's the youngest of the brothers. His clothing consists of animal fibers like wool and possibly some sheepskins.

-Postmortal: His halo has a stylized ram symbol because of his background as a shepherd. He plays the bugle/trumpet and leads his merry band of sheep cherubim. He wears a marching band uniform, despite the concept not existing while he was alive. He fell in love with it in the afterlife. I altered the canon design so I could wrap my head around the construction of it, and also to simplify it a bit cuz Hazbin has a habit of overcomplicating designs.

He has a hard time seeing himself as much beyond "Adam's son--the one that was murdered". So he's got some low self-confidence issues and is a bit of a people pleaser and is non-confrontational. He would prefer to just hang out with his sheep. He needs to learn to accept his role as more than just the first murder victim.

--Animal companions--

Because I like dogs and sheep and spent too much time thinking about them, I'm including a bit here.

Seth: The domestication of dogs happened pretty early in human civilization. So I gave him a wolf dog that he probably would had as a hunting companion in life. They're big doggos.

But I didn't stop there. I wanted to combine various aspects of different breeds of hunting dogs. So I combined a German wirehaired pointer(I like the eyebrows and mustache) with the tri-coloring of a Foxhound and Coonhound, and long ears like a Beagle. Basically a sighthound and scenthount cross. The idea was to give him a multipurpose hunting hound. Sighthounds visually locate and retrieve prey, scenthounds follow prey's scent and alert the hunter. Beagles, especially, do not shut up(my family dog is a beagle).

Cain: I figured a farmer would want help with pest control. So, a cat to deal with mice. But there are also dogs for small game and pests too. So I gave him a terrier. It's mainly based off a rat terrier.

Abel: Shepherds often use two types of dogs for very different purposes. Herding dogs are obvious. And border collies are well renowned for their intelligence and herding skill. They're a bit more gentle than other herding breeds(ie heelers will nip at cattles' legs to encourage them to move), that gentleness is helpful for sheep especially, because you want to reduce as much stress as possible (stress affects the wool quality, which can be a big deal). But I was also inspired by the Austrailian Shepherds' multicolor coat. The two can look pretty similar.

The other type of sheep dog is a Livestock Guardian Dog(aka LGD). They are raised with the sheep and will protect them from wolves or coyotes, maybe even sheep thieves. They're massive dogs, and will sometimes be given a wicked-looking spiked collar(called an antiwolf heck collar) that protects their neck from predator attacks. Great Pyrenese and Maremma Sheepdogs are a couple popular breeds, but there are quite a few that are big, fluffy, and often white-furred. They can be super sweet, but don't approach their flock of sheep without permission, cuz you don't want to make them angry.

I think that's all.

(Edit notes will go here if needed)

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I mainly brought up Enoch because of an idea of great irony for Cain.

God loves a good joke and what greater joke is there than having Cain's son ascend to heaven. Enoch was a good man as Cain raised him well. And so Cain was rewarded for being a good father with never seeing his son again. :D

First Family: Adam Firstman, Eve Firstman, Seth Adamson, Cain Adamson, Abel Adamson.

Heavenbound AU

Hazbin Masterpost

Since only Abel is currently in canon, I had a lot of wiggle room to decide how I wanted to go about this. In some ways that's easier, in others it's harder.

More under the cut

--Bible Story--

The basic story is that Cain was a farmer and Abel was a shepherd. Both offered sacrificial offerings to God. Abel offered the best of his flock. Cain offered some of his crops, but there was no mention of the quality of it. So it's implied that Cain did not offer his best. It was either average or sub-par.

God was pleased with Abel's offering, but not with Cain's. Cain was upset that Abel was favored over him. So out of jealousy, he killed Abel.

As punishment for murdering his brother, Cain was cursed, 1) to be a wanderer and a fugitive 2) he could no longer farm, because the ground would no longer produce crops for him.

God gave him a mark, so others would know who he was and not to harm him(because vengeance and judgement is only for God to enact). Nobody was allowed to kill or harm him. If they did, the damage would be returned sevenfold.

After Cain's banishment, Seth was born and considered to be a replacement for Abel.

-personal interpretation: I consider the story of Adam and Eve to be representative of the evolution of ape to sapient humans. In a similar vein, I consider the story of Cain and Abel to be a representation of humans' ability to sin, due to the knowledge of good and evil that came from Adam and Eve having eaten the fruit. Without getting too deep into any specific theology or nuances, sin is to knowingly and intentionally do bad things. Repenting is to continuously learn and change to become a better person. God's goal for us is our personal growth and improvement.

-Mark of Cain: it's not clear what the mark was, or if it was even visible. It was some sort of sign that warned people who he was. The idea of the mark being dark skin and that black people are Cain's descendents is not supported by the Bible. That was a medieval christian idea that was used to justify racism, discrimination, and slavery well into the 1800s. It's, thankfully, not widely accepted anymore.

-Folklore: There's another myth floating around that Cain is Bigfoot, cursed to wander the earth for eternity. Although the Bible does not say that he would live forever, just that he wouldn't be killed. It's silly, but it served as inspiration for Cain's demon form.

--Alterations for the Heavenbound AU--

-Birth Order: It is never stated that either Cain or Abel are the firstborn. There could have been other children born before them that go unnamed. That's ultimately not important, so we're sticking with the three who are named for now. The bible only specifies that Seth was born after Abel's death. But I'm going to change that around a bit because I can take artistic liberties. Seth is the oldest now.

-Each son represents a lifestyle of early humans. Hunter-Gatherer and Agricultural(agronomy is growing crops, pastoral is raising livestock).

--Seth--

-Mortal: Because the lifestyles of Cain and Abel are pretty well defined by their biblical roles, Seth represents the hunter-gatherer lifestyle. But that means I had to change him to be the oldest, since that came before agriculture. This gives him a bigger role in the family dynamic.

After Abel's death, he and his family(unspecified wife and kids) had to take over the responsibilities of Cain and Abel. Seth himself favored shepherding over farming, since his hunting skills could transfer to that a little better than to raising crops.

Because he's a hunter, his clothing is composed of primarily animal skins and furs. I wanted him to look sturdy and strong, so he's a bit stocky.

-Postmortal design: his halo has a crosshair design to reference his hunter lifestyle. I don't really care that it wouldn't have applied to his time period. It gets the idea across for us, and I think that matters more. He is one of the most dangerous soldiers of the exorcist army. And he is somewhat annoyed he can't exterminate Cain.

--Cain--

-Mortal: Represents agronomy (growing crops). He's a farmer.

His clothing would be made of plant-based fibers, like linen or cotton. I based his design off of Aaron from Dreamwork's The Prince of Egypt. I liked the tall, lanky look. It felt like a natural choice, since I based Adam off of Dreamwork's Moses.

Mark of Cain: during his life, I'll probably depict the mark as a symbol on his forehead. It's better than going the mark=dark skin route. His skin is a little darker than the other two, but that was because I was thinking of a farmer's tan, so it's unrelated to the mark.

-Postmortal: Because he's a wanderer, he has the ability to go between earth and hell(also because I want there to be bigfoot sightings, lol). Maybe it would be obligatory that he has to wander earth for 7 years, then wander hell for 7 years, then back to earth, etc. To force him to be nomadic. Idk for sure. He is easily identifiable by the mark that floats over his head(not typically visible to living humans on earth). The exorcists are forbidden from exterminating him(much to Seth's frustration). The other sinners can't hurt him either. He's essentially untouchable, but has no significant power compared to other sinners. He can't sell his soul, even if he wanted to, and he can't take other's souls. He's just lonely and miserable now. Cursed to wander, and can never truly rest.

--Abel--

-Mortal:

He represents the pastoral lifestyle and is a shepherd. I've got a bit about sheep HERE

In canon, he's blonde. But since I redesigned his parents, I had to change his color palette too. I gave them a more Middle Eastern inspired look, since they're based on ancient Hebrew characters.

I wanted him to look young and innocent, to emphasize the tragedy of his death. I kept the chubby look from canon because I thought it fit the vibe. He's the youngest of the brothers. His clothing consists of animal fibers like wool and possibly some sheepskins.

-Postmortal: His halo has a stylized ram symbol because of his background as a shepherd. He plays the bugle/trumpet and leads his merry band of sheep cherubim. He wears a marching band uniform, despite the concept not existing while he was alive. He fell in love with it in the afterlife. I altered the canon design so I could wrap my head around the construction of it, and also to simplify it a bit cuz Hazbin has a habit of overcomplicating designs.

He has a hard time seeing himself as much beyond "Adam's son--the one that was murdered". So he's got some low self-confidence issues and is a bit of a people pleaser and is non-confrontational. He would prefer to just hang out with his sheep. He needs to learn to accept his role as more than just the first murder victim.

--Animal companions--

Because I like dogs and sheep and spent too much time thinking about them, I'm including a bit here.

Seth: The domestication of dogs happened pretty early in human civilization. So I gave him a wolf dog that he probably would had as a hunting companion in life. They're big doggos.

But I didn't stop there. I wanted to combine various aspects of different breeds of hunting dogs. So I combined a German wirehaired pointer(I like the eyebrows and mustache) with the tri-coloring of a Foxhound and Coonhound, and long ears like a Beagle. Basically a sighthound and scenthount cross. The idea was to give him a multipurpose hunting hound. Sighthounds visually locate and retrieve prey, scenthounds follow prey's scent and alert the hunter. Beagles, especially, do not shut up(my family dog is a beagle).

Cain: I figured a farmer would want help with pest control. So, a cat to deal with mice. But there are also dogs for small game and pests too. So I gave him a terrier. It's mainly based off a rat terrier.

Abel: Shepherds often use two types of dogs for very different purposes. Herding dogs are obvious. And border collies are well renowned for their intelligence and herding skill. They're a bit more gentle than other herding breeds(ie heelers will nip at cattles' legs to encourage them to move), that gentleness is helpful for sheep especially, because you want to reduce as much stress as possible (stress affects the wool quality, which can be a big deal). But I was also inspired by the Austrailian Shepherds' multicolor coat. The two can look pretty similar.

The other type of sheep dog is a Livestock Guardian Dog(aka LGD). They are raised with the sheep and will protect them from wolves or coyotes, maybe even sheep thieves. They're massive dogs, and will sometimes be given a wicked-looking spiked collar(called an antiwolf heck collar) that protects their neck from predator attacks. Great Pyrenese and Maremma Sheepdogs are a couple popular breeds, but there are quite a few that are big, fluffy, and often white-furred. They can be super sweet, but don't approach their flock of sheep without permission, cuz you don't want to make them angry.

I think that's all.

(Edit notes will go here if needed)

[void-maker]

Dave hasn't really shown any powers to stop time, nor really alter time of others(I think). My guess is that Knights really only control their aspect in relation to Themselves, so it's a class thing. if he were a lord, a mage, or a witch then maybe he could but so far I think at most he'd be able to still move when he realizes she's messing with time. The most interesting thing I see him doing is him interrupting Homura time travel.

-Homura walking back in time-

-Dave at the end of the hallway, chilling - Sup.

Also why doesn't Jade do that more, just shrink her enemies. Why doesn't she do that in the sequel?

One homestuck death battle that seems interesting is against Modoka Magica. So in a deathbattle of The Four Alpah kids(Let's say at Act 6) vs the four main girls from modaka magica, who do you think would win? One of the recent reblogs reminded me of that,

Are the Alpha Kids godtier in this? Because they became one within Act 6. Unless it's specifically before that moment or straight up beginning Act 6 Act 1. Alpha Kids would win and have the higher advantage if only because Jake's Hope powers can destroy anything instantly and Jane can revive others with no issue. That's not even counting Dirk's unbreakable katana and Roxy using her Void powers to summon ANYTHING with a thought. There's also the fact the PMMM girls have to keep their Soul Gems pure, wasting too much energy and magic will make them weak and corrupted. If the kids are full human with their strife weapon, I could see PMMM having a better chance.

[void-maker]

it was in Beowulf. Grendel and his mother were said to be descendants of Cain, as were many misbegotten spirits found amongst the world.

Cain also had kids as he also made the first city. He first son was named Enoch and one of his grand kids was Tubal-cain, the first metal worker.

First Family: Adam Firstman, Eve Firstman, Seth Adamson, Cain Adamson, Abel Adamson.

Heavenbound AU

Hazbin Masterpost

Since only Abel is currently in canon, I had a lot of wiggle room to decide how I wanted to go about this. In some ways that's easier, in others it's harder.

More under the cut

--Bible Story--

The basic story is that Cain was a farmer and Abel was a shepherd. Both offered sacrificial offerings to God. Abel offered the best of his flock. Cain offered some of his crops, but there was no mention of the quality of it. So it's implied that Cain did not offer his best. It was either average or sub-par.

God was pleased with Abel's offering, but not with Cain's. Cain was upset that Abel was favored over him. So out of jealousy, he killed Abel.

As punishment for murdering his brother, Cain was cursed, 1) to be a wanderer and a fugitive 2) he could no longer farm, because the ground would no longer produce crops for him.

God gave him a mark, so others would know who he was and not to harm him(because vengeance and judgement is only for God to enact). Nobody was allowed to kill or harm him. If they did, the damage would be returned sevenfold.

After Cain's banishment, Seth was born and considered to be a replacement for Abel.

-personal interpretation: I consider the story of Adam and Eve to be representative of the evolution of ape to sapient humans. In a similar vein, I consider the story of Cain and Abel to be a representation of humans' ability to sin, due to the knowledge of good and evil that came from Adam and Eve having eaten the fruit. Without getting too deep into any specific theology or nuances, sin is to knowingly and intentionally do bad things. Repenting is to continuously learn and change to become a better person. God's goal for us is our personal growth and improvement.

-Mark of Cain: it's not clear what the mark was, or if it was even visible. It was some sort of sign that warned people who he was. The idea of the mark being dark skin and that black people are Cain's descendents is not supported by the Bible. That was a medieval christian idea that was used to justify racism, discrimination, and slavery well into the 1800s. It's, thankfully, not widely accepted anymore.

-Folklore: There's another myth floating around that Cain is Bigfoot, cursed to wander the earth for eternity. Although the Bible does not say that he would live forever, just that he wouldn't be killed. It's silly, but it served as inspiration for Cain's demon form.

--Alterations for the Heavenbound AU--

-Birth Order: It is never stated that either Cain or Abel are the firstborn. There could have been other children born before them that go unnamed. That's ultimately not important, so we're sticking with the three who are named for now. The bible only specifies that Seth was born after Abel's death. But I'm going to change that around a bit because I can take artistic liberties. Seth is the oldest now.

-Each son represents a lifestyle of early humans. Hunter-Gatherer and Agricultural(agronomy is growing crops, pastoral is raising livestock).

--Seth--

-Mortal: Because the lifestyles of Cain and Abel are pretty well defined by their biblical roles, Seth represents the hunter-gatherer lifestyle. But that means I had to change him to be the oldest, since that came before agriculture. This gives him a bigger role in the family dynamic.

After Abel's death, he and his family(unspecified wife and kids) had to take over the responsibilities of Cain and Abel. Seth himself favored shepherding over farming, since his hunting skills could transfer to that a little better than to raising crops.

Because he's a hunter, his clothing is composed of primarily animal skins and furs. I wanted him to look sturdy and strong, so he's a bit stocky.

-Postmortal design: his halo has a crosshair design to reference his hunter lifestyle. I don't really care that it wouldn't have applied to his time period. It gets the idea across for us, and I think that matters more. He is one of the most dangerous soldiers of the exorcist army. And he is somewhat annoyed he can't exterminate Cain.

--Cain--

-Mortal: Represents agronomy (growing crops). He's a farmer.

His clothing would be made of plant-based fibers, like linen or cotton. I based his design off of Aaron from Dreamwork's The Prince of Egypt. I liked the tall, lanky look. It felt like a natural choice, since I based Adam off of Dreamwork's Moses.

Mark of Cain: during his life, I'll probably depict the mark as a symbol on his forehead. It's better than going the mark=dark skin route. His skin is a little darker than the other two, but that was because I was thinking of a farmer's tan, so it's unrelated to the mark.

-Postmortal: Because he's a wanderer, he has the ability to go between earth and hell(also because I want there to be bigfoot sightings, lol). Maybe it would be obligatory that he has to wander earth for 7 years, then wander hell for 7 years, then back to earth, etc. To force him to be nomadic. Idk for sure. He is easily identifiable by the mark that floats over his head(not typically visible to living humans on earth). The exorcists are forbidden from exterminating him(much to Seth's frustration). The other sinners can't hurt him either. He's essentially untouchable, but has no significant power compared to other sinners. He can't sell his soul, even if he wanted to, and he can't take other's souls. He's just lonely and miserable now. Cursed to wander, and can never truly rest.

--Abel--

-Mortal:

He represents the pastoral lifestyle and is a shepherd. I've got a bit about sheep HERE

In canon, he's blonde. But since I redesigned his parents, I had to change his color palette too. I gave them a more Middle Eastern inspired look, since they're based on ancient Hebrew characters.

I wanted him to look young and innocent, to emphasize the tragedy of his death. I kept the chubby look from canon because I thought it fit the vibe. He's the youngest of the brothers. His clothing consists of animal fibers like wool and possibly some sheepskins.

-Postmortal: His halo has a stylized ram symbol because of his background as a shepherd. He plays the bugle/trumpet and leads his merry band of sheep cherubim. He wears a marching band uniform, despite the concept not existing while he was alive. He fell in love with it in the afterlife. I altered the canon design so I could wrap my head around the construction of it, and also to simplify it a bit cuz Hazbin has a habit of overcomplicating designs.

He has a hard time seeing himself as much beyond "Adam's son--the one that was murdered". So he's got some low self-confidence issues and is a bit of a people pleaser and is non-confrontational. He would prefer to just hang out with his sheep. He needs to learn to accept his role as more than just the first murder victim.

--Animal companions--

Because I like dogs and sheep and spent too much time thinking about them, I'm including a bit here.

Seth: The domestication of dogs happened pretty early in human civilization. So I gave him a wolf dog that he probably would had as a hunting companion in life. They're big doggos.

But I didn't stop there. I wanted to combine various aspects of different breeds of hunting dogs. So I combined a German wirehaired pointer(I like the eyebrows and mustache) with the tri-coloring of a Foxhound and Coonhound, and long ears like a Beagle. Basically a sighthound and scenthount cross. The idea was to give him a multipurpose hunting hound. Sighthounds visually locate and retrieve prey, scenthounds follow prey's scent and alert the hunter. Beagles, especially, do not shut up(my family dog is a beagle).

Cain: I figured a farmer would want help with pest control. So, a cat to deal with mice. But there are also dogs for small game and pests too. So I gave him a terrier. It's mainly based off a rat terrier.

Abel: Shepherds often use two types of dogs for very different purposes. Herding dogs are obvious. And border collies are well renowned for their intelligence and herding skill. They're a bit more gentle than other herding breeds(ie heelers will nip at cattles' legs to encourage them to move), that gentleness is helpful for sheep especially, because you want to reduce as much stress as possible (stress affects the wool quality, which can be a big deal). But I was also inspired by the Austrailian Shepherds' multicolor coat. The two can look pretty similar.

The other type of sheep dog is a Livestock Guardian Dog(aka LGD). They are raised with the sheep and will protect them from wolves or coyotes, maybe even sheep thieves. They're massive dogs, and will sometimes be given a wicked-looking spiked collar(called an antiwolf heck collar) that protects their neck from predator attacks. Great Pyrenese and Maremma Sheepdogs are a couple popular breeds, but there are quite a few that are big, fluffy, and often white-furred. They can be super sweet, but don't approach their flock of sheep without permission, cuz you don't want to make them angry.

I think that's all.

(Edit notes will go here if needed)

[void-maker]

Ya know I think so too.

The only problem I see them having is with Akemi's time stop. Do you think Dave could be able to still move in it or at least be aware that she's affecting time as a Time player?

Also what would Rose be able to do. Her magic is good and all but I don't know how her power would be helpful in a moment to moment scenario.

One homestuck death battle that seems interesting is against Modoka Magica. So in a deathbattle of The Four Alpah kids(Let's say at Act 6) vs the four main girls from modaka magica, who do you think would win? One of the recent reblogs reminded me of that,

Are the Alpha Kids godtier in this? Because they became one within Act 6. Unless it's specifically before that moment or straight up beginning Act 6 Act 1. Alpha Kids would win and have the higher advantage if only because Jake's Hope powers can destroy anything instantly and Jane can revive others with no issue. That's not even counting Dirk's unbreakable katana and Roxy using her Void powers to summon ANYTHING with a thought. There's also the fact the PMMM girls have to keep their Soul Gems pure, wasting too much energy and magic will make them weak and corrupted. If the kids are full human with their strife weapon, I could see PMMM having a better chance.

[void-maker]

Ah shit i meant act 7 and the beta kids. John, Jade, Dave, and Rose.

One homestuck death battle that seems interesting is against Modoka Magica. So in a deathbattle of The Four Alpah kids(Let's say at Act 6) vs the four main girls from modaka magica, who do you think would win? One of the recent reblogs reminded me of that,

Are the Alpha Kids godtier in this? Because they became one within Act 6. Unless it's specifically before that moment or straight up beginning Act 6 Act 1. Alpha Kids would win and have the higher advantage if only because Jake's Hope powers can destroy anything instantly and Jane can revive others with no issue. That's not even counting Dirk's unbreakable katana and Roxy using her Void powers to summon ANYTHING with a thought. There's also the fact the PMMM girls have to keep their Soul Gems pure, wasting too much energy and magic will make them weak and corrupted. If the kids are full human with their strife weapon, I could see PMMM having a better chance.

[void-maker]

there is a point of question that I have for you(in addition to the comment that I made in the comments part):I

my question is the idea that antediluvian/early generation were larger than modern. Are they(adam, even and their first descendants) tall or just average height.

First Family: Adam Firstman, Eve Firstman, Seth Adamson, Cain Adamson, Abel Adamson.

Heavenbound AU

Hazbin Masterpost

Since only Abel is currently in canon, I had a lot of wiggle room to decide how I wanted to go about this. In some ways that's easier, in others it's harder.

More under the cut

--Bible Story--

The basic story is that Cain was a farmer and Abel was a shepherd. Both offered sacrificial offerings to God. Abel offered the best of his flock. Cain offered some of his crops, but there was no mention of the quality of it. So it's implied that Cain did not offer his best. It was either average or sub-par.

God was pleased with Abel's offering, but not with Cain's. Cain was upset that Abel was favored over him. So out of jealousy, he killed Abel.

As punishment for murdering his brother, Cain was cursed, 1) to be a wanderer and a fugitive 2) he could no longer farm, because the ground would no longer produce crops for him.

God gave him a mark, so others would know who he was and not to harm him(because vengeance and judgement is only for God to enact). Nobody was allowed to kill or harm him. If they did, the damage would be returned sevenfold.

After Cain's banishment, Seth was born and considered to be a replacement for Abel.

-personal interpretation: I consider the story of Adam and Eve to be representative of the evolution of ape to sapient humans. In a similar vein, I consider the story of Cain and Abel to be a representation of humans' ability to sin, due to the knowledge of good and evil that came from Adam and Eve having eaten the fruit. Without getting too deep into any specific theology or nuances, sin is to knowingly and intentionally do bad things. Repenting is to continuously learn and change to become a better person. God's goal for us is our personal growth and improvement.

-Mark of Cain: it's not clear what the mark was, or if it was even visible. It was some sort of sign that warned people who he was. The idea of the mark being dark skin and that black people are Cain's descendents is not supported by the Bible. That was a medieval christian idea that was used to justify racism, discrimination, and slavery well into the 1800s. It's, thankfully, not widely accepted anymore.

-Folklore: There's another myth floating around that Cain is Bigfoot, cursed to wander the earth for eternity. Although the Bible does not say that he would live forever, just that he wouldn't be killed. It's silly, but it served as inspiration for Cain's demon form.

--Alterations for the Heavenbound AU--

-Birth Order: It is never stated that either Cain or Abel are the firstborn. There could have been other children born before them that go unnamed. That's ultimately not important, so we're sticking with the three who are named for now. The bible only specifies that Seth was born after Abel's death. But I'm going to change that around a bit because I can take artistic liberties. Seth is the oldest now.

-Each son represents a lifestyle of early humans. Hunter-Gatherer and Agricultural(agronomy is growing crops, pastoral is raising livestock).

--Seth--

-Mortal: Because the lifestyles of Cain and Abel are pretty well defined by their biblical roles, Seth represents the hunter-gatherer lifestyle. But that means I had to change him to be the oldest, since that came before agriculture. This gives him a bigger role in the family dynamic.

After Abel's death, he and his family(unspecified wife and kids) had to take over the responsibilities of Cain and Abel. Seth himself favored shepherding over farming, since his hunting skills could transfer to that a little better than to raising crops.

Because he's a hunter, his clothing is composed of primarily animal skins and furs. I wanted him to look sturdy and strong, so he's a bit stocky.

-Postmortal design: his halo has a crosshair design to reference his hunter lifestyle. I don't really care that it wouldn't have applied to his time period. It gets the idea across for us, and I think that matters more. He is one of the most dangerous soldiers of the exorcist army. And he is somewhat annoyed he can't exterminate Cain.

--Cain--

-Mortal: Represents agronomy (growing crops). He's a farmer.

His clothing would be made of plant-based fibers, like linen or cotton. I based his design off of Aaron from Dreamwork's The Prince of Egypt. I liked the tall, lanky look. It felt like a natural choice, since I based Adam off of Dreamwork's Moses.

Mark of Cain: during his life, I'll probably depict the mark as a symbol on his forehead. It's better than going the mark=dark skin route. His skin is a little darker than the other two, but that was because I was thinking of a farmer's tan, so it's unrelated to the mark.

-Postmortal: Because he's a wanderer, he has the ability to go between earth and hell(also because I want there to be bigfoot sightings, lol). Maybe it would be obligatory that he has to wander earth for 7 years, then wander hell for 7 years, then back to earth, etc. To force him to be nomadic. Idk for sure. He is easily identifiable by the mark that floats over his head(not typically visible to living humans on earth). The exorcists are forbidden from exterminating him(much to Seth's frustration). The other sinners can't hurt him either. He's essentially untouchable, but has no significant power compared to other sinners. He can't sell his soul, even if he wanted to, and he can't take other's souls. He's just lonely and miserable now. Cursed to wander, and can never truly rest.

--Abel--

-Mortal:

He represents the pastoral lifestyle and is a shepherd. I've got a bit about sheep HERE

In canon, he's blonde. But since I redesigned his parents, I had to change his color palette too. I gave them a more Middle Eastern inspired look, since they're based on ancient Hebrew characters.

I wanted him to look young and innocent, to emphasize the tragedy of his death. I kept the chubby look from canon because I thought it fit the vibe. He's the youngest of the brothers. His clothing consists of animal fibers like wool and possibly some sheepskins.

-Postmortal: His halo has a stylized ram symbol because of his background as a shepherd. He plays the bugle/trumpet and leads his merry band of sheep cherubim. He wears a marching band uniform, despite the concept not existing while he was alive. He fell in love with it in the afterlife. I altered the canon design so I could wrap my head around the construction of it, and also to simplify it a bit cuz Hazbin has a habit of overcomplicating designs.

He has a hard time seeing himself as much beyond "Adam's son--the one that was murdered". So he's got some low self-confidence issues and is a bit of a people pleaser and is non-confrontational. He would prefer to just hang out with his sheep. He needs to learn to accept his role as more than just the first murder victim.

--Animal companions--

Because I like dogs and sheep and spent too much time thinking about them, I'm including a bit here.

Seth: The domestication of dogs happened pretty early in human civilization. So I gave him a wolf dog that he probably would had as a hunting companion in life. They're big doggos.

But I didn't stop there. I wanted to combine various aspects of different breeds of hunting dogs. So I combined a German wirehaired pointer(I like the eyebrows and mustache) with the tri-coloring of a Foxhound and Coonhound, and long ears like a Beagle. Basically a sighthound and scenthount cross. The idea was to give him a multipurpose hunting hound. Sighthounds visually locate and retrieve prey, scenthounds follow prey's scent and alert the hunter. Beagles, especially, do not shut up(my family dog is a beagle).

Cain: I figured a farmer would want help with pest control. So, a cat to deal with mice. But there are also dogs for small game and pests too. So I gave him a terrier. It's mainly based off a rat terrier.

Abel: Shepherds often use two types of dogs for very different purposes. Herding dogs are obvious. And border collies are well renowned for their intelligence and herding skill. They're a bit more gentle than other herding breeds(ie heelers will nip at cattles' legs to encourage them to move), that gentleness is helpful for sheep especially, because you want to reduce as much stress as possible (stress affects the wool quality, which can be a big deal). But I was also inspired by the Austrailian Shepherds' multicolor coat. The two can look pretty similar.

The other type of sheep dog is a Livestock Guardian Dog(aka LGD). They are raised with the sheep and will protect them from wolves or coyotes, maybe even sheep thieves. They're massive dogs, and will sometimes be given a wicked-looking spiked collar(called an antiwolf heck collar) that protects their neck from predator attacks. Great Pyrenese and Maremma Sheepdogs are a couple popular breeds, but there are quite a few that are big, fluffy, and often white-furred. They can be super sweet, but don't approach their flock of sheep without permission, cuz you don't want to make them angry.

I think that's all.

(Edit notes will go here if needed)

[void-maker]

I have a slight ply different interpretation of the Maid class

Maid players are indeed suppose to what they're told, and they dint really have much choice in the matter; this is because what they're suposse to do is something that is very much needed, and because in taking the job they get something they want.

It seems in the story being a Maid grants a great responsibility, as well as grand power to take care of said responsibility. Jane's nearly immortal and Aradia seems to be one of the best time travelers in the story, unbound by anything that isn't making sure the time lopps are closed. Not just that but I there's a bit of a loophole that the Maid gains: So long as they do their job, they can do whatever they want. If their responsibility is taken care of, ot doesn't matter what else they do. I'm interpreting this from The Handmaiden, she was made to be a Maid but ultimately wasn't, that was why she was so strictly bound by Doc and LE, because the Maid class would be just as powerful without the restriction. Maids are given soemthing something for their work, more than the death Damara was given

The Dolorosa for an example: She had the responsibility of taking care of the signless, to take care of a specific grub throughout its entire life(which honestly could've been shorter than her own), and because of it she was able to leave the brooding caverns and see the world - something Porrim wanted to do. She was given what her previous self wanted for her doing her role. With Aradia she's now immortal and can be with the dead at her own leisure so long as she acts the reaper. With Jane she's now the ceo, the master with no oversight, so long as she watches over the human populace.

Each Maid has a job they have no real choice but to take, but it WILL compensate them for doing it, more than they can really imagine.

Another coffin clogger bites the dust.

This is just unfair. Jane hadn't even entered the game yet, and it sounds like Jake was murdered before his Dream Self had even woken up.

This is absolutely cheating - which is weird, because Jack should have no reason to go off-script yet. His original rebellion was made possible by the actions of the Players, but this Jack should still be a 'default' version of the character, since no Players have entered the Medium yet.

Can the default Jack Noir NPC really pull a dirty trick like this? Because if so, there are probably countless sessions that never even got off the ground, simply due to antsy Agents or bad RNG. Yeesh.

Two down. Two to go.

Jack's still in his default outfit, of course - which really highlights the wrongness of what's happening here. The guy was literally just born, and he's already tearing the session apart.

You can't wait to read it in their papers. "The Maid is dead. Our Life is pathetic, blah blah blah."

Jade's a Maid, then - a kindred spirit with Aradia.

I think I can already see a few parallels. Both Maids started their journey in an altered state of consciousness, brainwashed into a false state of compliance. Aradia's Voices sapped her will, convincing her she was 0k with the trolls' sorry state of affairs, and Jane's tiara is muddling her mind, preventing her from questioning the corporation that controls her entire life.

Maids aren't supposed to think for themselves, apparently. They're supposed to keep their heads down, grit their teeth, and do what they're fucking told.

When the clock strikes twelve, no one in this wretched kingdom will have any doubt who's calling the shots here.

Some sort of shock tactic, I guess?

I don't really get it, to be honest. If Agents were always able to do this, then how can any Dream Selves survive until Entry?

[void-maker]

it's more a mention than full relevance but in Beowulf the first main monster Grendel is said to be a descendant of Cain. The full stanza of it goes that many monsters of the world are descendants are descendant of his.

"he had been forced down into fearful waters, the cold depths, after Cain had killed his father's son, felled his own brother with a sword. Branded an outlaw, marked by having murdered, he moved into the wilds, shunned company and joy. A nd from Cain there sprang misbegotten spirits, among them Grendel"

Ever read Beowulf?

I ask because it does have relation to Cain

Ooooooo I have not, I'll check it out, or somebody on here can summarize it for me. Whichever happens first. 🤌

[void-maker]

They need a ship name.

I suggest Imperius-Japes

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