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One of the main things I find telling about Mike's conversation with Will about his fight with El is the phrasing of it.

He said that his argument with her felt like something he couldn't come back from – which obviously implies he didn't think a solution or an answer could exist.

Let's remember that said argument had two core issues a) that he views El as a monster b) that he doesn't love her.

We know Mike doesn't see El as a monster - on the contrary -. Did he react well to her hitting Angela? No. But that doesn't mean he sees her as evil or monstrous.

The other issue, however, is that he can't say he loves her. We know that the argument made by Mil*vens is that because of how he grew up, he was scared. And we know that Mike's own case and argument rely on the fact he has always known he loved her (since, according to his own narrative, the day they met).

So if we treat that as a fact and as true, we must start to wonder why he would say his argument with El, and argument that consists of how he can't say he loves her because he doesn't feel that way, would be an argument he can't come back from if he knew he loved her then and if he knew all he had to do was tell her that.

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This guy gets it...👏 yt: Smitty & Birdie

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Mike looking at El:

Mike looking at Will:

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We see a flashback of El's mom telling her that she loves her —> El becomes determined and gains the strength to send Henry into the Upside Down.

But...

Mike tells El he loves her —> she loses.

🤔

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Mike and El in Season 4:

• El lies to Mike for months.

• After El was bullied, she walked AWAY from Mike instead of going to him for comfort.

• Mike freaked out when El hit Angela with a rollerskate which reminded El of Papa.

• Instead of comforting El after she's been bullied and is clearly upset, Mike stays by Will's side even though they just had a fight.

• Mike says, "She didn't look fine." —> El leaves and goes to her room, where she thinks about Papa again.

• El stays in her room and doesn't eat breakfast because she's still upset.

• Mike tells El that he understands how she feels because he's been bullied his whole life and she tells him, "No, you don't." Showing that they don't understand each other at all.

• El calls Mike out for not telling her that he loves her, and instead of Mike saying "I love you!" He calls her ridiculous and shifts the blame, saying the "mouthbreathers" are ruining their relationship.

• Mike feels like El doesn't need him anymore and that he just feels like some random nerd. He sees El as this special superhero —> Will tells Mike that he's a leader and an inspiration. He's the heart. Mike makes Will feel better for being different and gives him the courage to fight on. Will tells Mike that he will always need him —> Mike falsely believes that's what El thinks.

• Will pushes Mike to say something to El, reminding him that he's the heart —> Mike tells El that he loves her —> They lose —> El revives Max, and we hear Max say, "Not Hopper. Not Mike. You." And "There's more to life than stupid boys!" —> We don't see Mike and El talk, hug, or kiss after Mike's supposed "love confession" —> We get a scene of Mike and Will talking instead —> Mike and Will stand together while El stands on her own.

milkvans: omg couple goals!! 🥰😍

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byler dance 💙💛

There is a big possibility of having a Byler dance scene

Im going to show some proof that, personally, made me have no doubt about it.

I got it from the youtuber Tate100T and for those of you who dont know he is someone that posted several videos of BTS of ST5. Basically the fandom of ST owes him sm for showing little crumbs of the last season of the show.

Anyways, his content of ST didnt end on filming locations of S5, he also did a haul of all the props he got from the filming places. In that video he showed lots of stuff, and in between all of those things he showed this.

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HELLO?!?@?

Its a poster OF A HOMECOMING DANCE which mean that WE ARE GOING TO GET A DANCE SCENE.

With all the proof that we got, we already know that byler will be canon which means that there is a HUGEEE chance of seeing them together dancing in the homecoming dance😭❤️

I literally cannot wait anymore for S5 help JAJWKSKKSQIJ

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”i love you on your bad days🥺” “she didn’t look fine 😒”

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Take what Will said:

"Sometimes, I think it's just scary to open up like that—to say how you really feel. Especially to people you care about the most. Because what if... what if they don't like the truth?"

And have Mike say it instead: *since Mike nodded in agreement to Will's words*

"I'm scared to open up—to say how I really feel. Especially because I care for her so much. Because what if... what if she doesn't like the truth?"

And suddenly, everything makes sense.

If Mike wants to tell El he loves her, why would he think she wouldn't like the truth? She wanted him to say it, but he didn't.

Why would he be so scared to tell her?

Why is he so scared of losing her?

It's because Mike is scared to tell El that he doesn't love her.

He's scared she won't like the truth and that he's going to lose her because of it.

"Mike just doesn't know how to express his feelings! He doesn't know how to tell El he loves her. And he's scared to lose her because he loves her so much."

No, Mike doesn't WANT to express his feelings.

He CAN, but he CHOOSES not to because he's SCARED El won't like what he has to say.

And THAT'S why he's scared to lose her.

So, instead of Mike telling El the TRUTH, he LIES.

El needed help and he was scared of losing her. So instead of telling El something that she might not like, he lies and tells her he loves her.

Mike tells El he loves her and they lose. El doesn't win.

Right AFTER Mike tells her he loves her...

El revives Max and we hear a voice over of Max saying:

"Not Hopper. Not Mike. You."

And

"There's more to life than stupid boys!"

In conclusion, Mike doesn't love El and she knows it. She's upset that he's lying to her.

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Mike wants Will to be the hero and is sad about Will being the victim 🥹

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The Electricity

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Funny how, in season 2, when Mike laughs at something Max says, El showing possessiveness and jealousy is clearly a sign of her feelings for him.

But when, in that same season, when Will takes interest in what Max is doing, Mike showing possessiveness and jealousy is just him being a good friend or something.

Like, ur close

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I never really thought about it until now, but...

Murray could tell BOTH Jonathan and Nancy had feelings for each other.

Murray could tell BOTH Hopper and Joyce had feelings for each other.

Dustin could tell BOTH Lucas and Max had feelings for each other.

But Lucas and Nancy assume that it's ONLY Mike who has feelings for El.

"If YOU love her so much, why don't you marry her?"

"Do YOU like Eleven?"

Interesting...

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Will the song, "St. Elmo's Fire (Man in Motion)" Be in Season 5?

Could this be Will's theme song?

Let's look at the meaning of St. Elmo's Fire itself:

A weather phenomenon... an electric field...

Burning pain...

A ship... a token of good luck...

Joyce: "A rainbow ship is what you called it."

In the movie, "St. Elmo's Fire" there's a character named Kevin:

Will doesn't believe in love... and is secretly in love with Mike...

The song was written for:

On March 22nd, 1985 (Will's Birthday) Rick began his 'Man in Motion' World tour. However, I doubled checked to make sure and it's most likely March 21st, which is still a day before Will's birthday.

The Tour sparked a GLOBAL MOVEMENT to CREATE a WORLD that is ACCESSIBLE to everyone, everywhere, where BARRIERS are REMOVED, and ALL people have the OPPORTUNITY to reach their FULL POTENTIAL.

The lyrics:

I can see a new horizon underneath the blazin' sky I'll be where the eagle's flying higher and higher Gonna be your man in motion, all I need's this pair of wheels (All he needs is a Wheeler, perhaps? "I need you Mike. And I always Will.") Take me where my future's lyin', St. Elmo's fire (Ooh, oooh, oooh)

Burning up, don't know just how far that I can go (Just how far I go) Soon be home, only just a few miles down the road I can make it, I know, I can You broke the boy in me but you won't break the man

Ross Duffer: "Will is used to being the young one, the introverted one, the one that’s being protected. So part of his journey, it’s not just sexuality – it’s Will coming into his own as a young man."

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This is probably just all a big coincidence lol

His song is most likely Should I Stay or Should I Go

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The Byler Hate is Excessive

I was on TikTok and saw a post about someone ranking ST ships and they ranked byler first as their fav ship.

This post had a little over 1,000 likes and about 100 hundred comments.

All comments that I will show you was on this single post. This wasn't even all of them:

This was just on ONE post and they received a huge amount of hate.

People can have their own opinions and not like certain ships, but this hateful behavior is excessive. And you see these comments on any byler or milkvan post. Sometimes, people would say things like this under comments not related to byler or milkvan at all.

They call byler:

"Weird"

"Disgusting"

They call people who ship byler:

"Cringe"

"The worst"

"Delusional"

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There's a reason byler gets so much hate. Yes, it's unfortunately homophobia, but also because they feel threatened. They go on and on about how byler is one sided, when we still have an ENTIRE SEASON left.

They KNOW Will is in love with Mike.

They KNOW Mike doesn't know that yet.

They KNOW Mike and Will have a close relationship.

They SEE the possibility and that scares them.

They don't hate the other ships on the show nearly as much as byler. If they truly believe Will is just going to get rejected, then why get so mad? It's because they're not confident enough to know that's what will really happen.

Let's hope that byler IS endgame because if we're getting hate now, imagine the amount of hate we'll get when the show is over and byler doesn't happen.

People would be like:

"See? We were right and they were so delusional! They really thought byler was gonna happen? It was so funny how Mike rejected Will 😂"

They would act like the people ST consistently goes against. People who make fun of others for being different.

I'm just so sick of the hate.

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sometimes i just think about this eduardo franco fan expo panel where he was talking about the "shared looks" on stranger things and i get giddy.

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When they're trying to communicate to Will, the song, "Should I Stay or Should I Go" plays.

We hear these lyrics of the song when we are shown Mike and Will:

If you have doubt, I will crush it in two screenshots...