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WHAT THE FREAK BRO GET OFF MY BLOGGGGG IM SO CRINGE HERE

like thanks for the solidarity tho and also I’m on mobile and have no clue how to get the read more thing, i got it to work once and never again

I'm sorry guys but Snow White/Mary Margaret deserved better in Once Upon a Time, and she should've been the center piece and driving force of the show. Not the fucking Evil Queen.

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It’s so strange being friends with an Asian girl living in England who only finds the east and south east of Asia palatable.

Like you wanna be linked to Asian culture and interact with the media and involve yourself in their jokes but as soon as it comes to the South and West of Asia, where the skin gets darker and the culture is less sophisticated to you, all of sudden it’s just not to your taste and you’re just too used to your culture.

All of a sudden, it doesn’t feel like Asia to you and I ‘wouldn’t understand’ your Asian things and I’m separate from your east-Asian duo

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Guys i beggg tag your hate posts on a character under their hate tag, not under their character tag

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‘Cringe incarcerate’ let’s crack open a textbook, nay, even Google will do

Did your parents not give you enough attention as a child for you to despise a fictional character? You are cringe incarcerate and I hope you fall downstairs holding your favorite plate of food and you trip on the last step, breaking said plate into a thousand pieces.

why would i bring a plate of food upstairs when the food is downstairs already. and my favourite food is the 200g bag of roasted and salted california pistachios from lidl why would i carry that on a plate

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Clocked

@martinblackwoodhater

You are.. kinda pathetic. You can hate on literally any other character. But NOOOOO, you have to pick on Martin.

I dislike your vibe heavily.

Please don't ever interact with me.

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I think tumblr made me kinda hate gay cowboys

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Emma was tested every single day in that show, you knew she was the saviour because she persistently managed to never go on a killing spree

Like trust, if I was her, y’all would need to hold me back before this whole establishment feels me

Jesus Christ imagine finally admitting your abandonment issues to your mother and 0.2 seconds later she reveales her big secret: she wants another baby bc she didn’t get it right the first time. The way I would be swinging! OUAT was insane for this!

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No worries!

We’re all entitled to our own opinions over the show, especially when said show literally doesn’t know what it’s talking about either so everything’s fair game.

Regina is a fun villain but I do understand why people are hesitant about her. And I never finished the show either, I stopped at season 5, season 6 and 7 were pushing me to my limits of self-manipulation and I couldn’t pretend that I liked it anymore😭 I think when I was younger I watched them but if I did, I don’t really remember what happened other than the ending. My fave season was season 1 as well, season 2 was also fun and things started going down from season 3 onwards

I'm sorry guys but Snow White/Mary Margaret deserved better in Once Upon a Time, and she should've been the center piece and driving force of the show. Not the fucking Evil Queen.

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“It’s why Regina never experiences any consequences…and is admired by the writers and certain people”

A large, inaccurate generalisation there which also fails to evaluate the show from the standpoint of production.

First, Regina suffers consequences - perhaps not in the way in which you want but she does. Regina’s largest goal, at the show’s first seasons, was to subject others into the same suffering she was subjected to. This suffering to her was the oppression of living a dictated life which contrasted every desire she ever had, Snow happened to be someone she believed to have played a part in this.

So she inflicted that harm unto others, like Snow primarily, and was a large reason as to why she created Storybrooke - a place where everyone lived these boring lives in which they never got what they wanted, similar to how Regina felt her life was. And with the added appeal of all of them sucking up to her. That was her revenge, the one thing she craved, before eventually Henry.

She loved Henry, a baby she chose to have entirely on her own jurisdiction and not the whims of parent or husband - a pure, unadulterated form of her love which she hasn’t felt safe to express since youth.

she never wanted to be a queen - she says this herself - but struggled to remove herself from her proximity to power and the freedom it offered her that she was afraid of losing.

However, throughout the course of the show, she loses her curse, loses the iron infallibility of her power, has to share her son with another, loses her every chance at a happy ending (Robin) just as she had stripped the town of theirs for 28 years, and eventually is made into a queen.

From a completely 2-d perspective, like the one you have been using that focuses entirely on the plot, this is a perverse yet justified ending for her. It is a unique type of torture to have your every desire be turned against you and be placed back into the roles you tried so hard to escape.

From the writer’s perspective, these things seem pretty inevitable, Regina is well liked by audiences, she has been shown repeatedly to have great power, connections, and knowledge - there have been characters that outright said even in the early seasons that she is a capable ruler.

But most importantly, Regina is played by Lana Parilla, one of the most compelling actors in that show. Audiences loved her performance so it mattered very little whether or not Regina was suitably punished or not - the writers needed audiences to be happy for her ending because Lana Parilla was objectively a brilliant casting and treating her character poorly would have negative results.

And perhaps the largest discussions of Regina’s character I have seen are the ones criticising the writer’s handling of her sexual assault scenes, with the Hunter and the treatment of his character. People like her because the actress did her great justice not because they wilfully ignore her faults.

“Tbh my point was either it’s an American thing or a human thing to admire sociopaths”

Well since the bulk of your other post was centred around the American lense then let’s delve into it.

Moral panic is a documented occurrence of exaggerated media reaction to behaviours which deviate from the norms and values of contemporary society. You’ll know this, a notable occurrence being the Salem Witch Trials but the term was coined cerca 1960s by Stanley Cohen.

In summary, he found that media control and increased surveillance led to amplified deviance, in retaliation to moral entrepreneurship that promoted altruism and duty and their aim to influence groups to maintain social norm.

This was founded in England however it was a global occurrence. In America, due to this, the muckrakers were founded - American journalist groups with a focus on ‘raking the mud’ or exposé who provided detailed accounts socioeconomic corruption in a rapidly industrialising America which surprised negative media coverage and sought to unify its people under one pseudo-Christian moral society that values obedience.

In response, hundreds of valuable, detailed exposé criticised every aspect of the American government.

Ida M. Tarbell - The History of the Standard Oil Company, a seething exposé into the Rockefellers abuse and corruption within the oil industry, caused him to eventually step down in 1911 despite the fact that Standard Oil owned 90% of all oil production, if he hadn’t America would be much deeper into its corpotocracy than it currently is, the man was a villain, truly. But he was also head of a company that was one of the major companies that fuelled the American ‘Gilded Age’, a time where living standards skyrocketed, annual wages grew up to 59% by 1890 for men and women - it was good. Or that’s what officials said until radicals opposed this.

A large pull factor to American migration in the 1820s to 1850s was manifest destiny, a Christian belief that God had intended for the white migrants to civilise the Indigenous Americans and settle the west, to industrialise. This was their duty, this was heroic and Christian and noble. However, in 1881, Helen Hunt Jackson produced ‘A Century of Dishonour’ detailing the horrific nature of Native extermination due to the White settlers migration westward and the US governments attempts to assimilate the Indigenous. That wasn’t so Christian and it rankled the feelings and morals.

It is extremely common in history to forever remain curious, we reject social norms, we reject conformity, we reject being told what to think. So when the media tries to push a clear ‘hero’, an exemplified American who is comfortable in their power, it is instinct to rail against it.

Snow’s father was revered and trusted, nobody assumed he was capable of wrong doing because that’s what the monarchy purported. That’s what they were told to think, even Snow.

So docile was this White kingdom, this family, that when the king took a young, unwilling bride and neglected her incredibly, no one spared her any compassion.

She was alone, unloved and abused by her mother, she shared a bed with king significantly older than her and who gets aggressive in the face of her finding any outside comfort, she would sterilise herself in order to prevent her mother from ever abusing them. She was invisible, in a court that didn’t value her and her grief, hoping for her to be made docile too.

Then at this height of her emotional instability, the literal embodiment of evil and darkness offers her a way out, she took it. She kills Leopold who, to her, is not Snow’s father, but one more shackle that keeps her prisoner. Also mind that Snow wasn’t 10 when everything went down, she was 19 - 18-19 being how old Regina was when she married Leopold. She was on the run for 4 years roughly, and had Emma at around 25. She could’ve been on the run for longer and in that case had Emma around her 30s. So up until she was at least 19, Snow was pretty contented. At 19 both Snow and Regina faced some heavy hits, only difference being that Regina had been dealing with abuse like this since she was young.

I am not arguing whether or not Regina was justified for her actions but I am saying that it was natural for people to look for fault in the king, watchers can wonder if he made a mistake marrying her; he should’ve paid more attention to her and realise the extent of her unwillingness to marry but instead acted with misogynistic ignorance, of course Regina has complete freedom of choice, of course why wouldn’t she?

This is what makes her compelling to an American audience, she actively challenges expectations on what good and evil looks like - in a way very similar to the ways media, radical and national, challenge and control the American thought.

She creates nuance in this tale that’s otherwise very one dimensional, she wants you to put yourself exactly in her shoes (hence her casting the curse), both watcher and character.

We can sit and think on whether she was justified in killing Leopold, on whether she was a victim until she pursued Snow White’s capture, on who created this evil within her and until when we can still blame this creator.

Snow White is a good character and a stereotypical hero, but she wasn’t interesting. She doesn’t evoke questions and I don’t expect her to, this is literally OUAT - the dumbest show in existence. Her moral decline isn’t interesting, it’s a tired and basic plot line seen in most contemporary and even classic stories. Romeo and Juliet, Picture of Dorian Gray, The Vampyre by Polidori, man even Percy Jackson.

Emma, however, is very compelling and I’ll forever mourn how the writers treated her - born perfectly good, the product of true love, but having had to scrape by with cheats and lies and fight for hard won victories. Going through life with the skeptic cynicism of a scrappy orphan who never knew kindness and so has the severe corners of someone who never knew soft.

Then having to taste blood in her mouth as she bites her tongue every day in Storybrooke accepting something that everyone else has already accepted. She is meant to be pure good but she very obviously isn’t.

She had the potential to be some good commentary on morality because she was pretty fleshed out and has by far one of the most interesting backgrounds alongside Regina and some others, Snow just didn’t.

“And yeah you did strike a nerve”

That’s strange tbh, when I read your original post, despite disagreeing with you, I didn’t at all feel angered and still don’t.

This is a discussion app, we’re bound to discuss. For all your insistence that I was wrong, I fail to see any justification for it other than your own subjective analysis, which is fine but maybe don’t tell others that they’re unequivocally wrong when you have no objective reasoning as to why you are ‘correct’.

I'm sorry guys but Snow White/Mary Margaret deserved better in Once Upon a Time, and she should've been the center piece and driving force of the show. Not the fucking Evil Queen.

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Also like I’m not American so I don’t know what your point is there

I'm sorry guys but Snow White/Mary Margaret deserved better in Once Upon a Time, and she should've been the center piece and driving force of the show. Not the fucking Evil Queen.

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struck a nerve there!

I'm sorry guys but Snow White/Mary Margaret deserved better in Once Upon a Time, and she should've been the center piece and driving force of the show. Not the fucking Evil Queen.

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She just literally wasn’t compelling enough honestly, she was interesting kind of at first but it would’ve been a little like my little pony with her, she’d just walk around and have mild conflicts with a character before becoming friends again. There are not that many great villains in the show that she could’ve had real conflicts with, they did make her and charming boring after their baby tbf but at that point the focus was on Emma and how that affected her

I'm sorry guys but Snow White/Mary Margaret deserved better in Once Upon a Time, and she should've been the center piece and driving force of the show. Not the fucking Evil Queen.

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Guys this is literally AI

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gun to my head i would rather die than read this fic. what the fuck are you even doing at this point. whats the fucking point?

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every righteous blonde needs their morally dubious (but also misunderstood) brunette

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shout out to my girlies who say WedNessDay in their heads

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