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we need to talk about antisemitism on tumblr (even more)

So Tumblr has been putting more of its stupid 'Community' posts in the feed. Whatever. So I saw one of these (the poster gave me permission to use this post and their name):

And can we talk about those five watermelons? Because that is too many watermelons on a post that doesn't come even close to mentioning anything remotely related to Israel/Palestine!

There is no possible way to think watermelons are fair here (I checked, of the five people, I could confirm that gaycatlover27, deep-sea-siphonophore, and cactusrosier do not do this on all posts; I could not confirm or deny for roucacia and gay-ace) unless you think all Jews support Israel (at best, in its most charitable interpretation).

And what do they say about people who support Israel?

Let's look at deep-sea-siphonophore, because they've made their likes public, giving us a fuller view.

They've liked posts about how Israel is committing genocide.

All Jews are genocide supporters.

About how, and I quote here, I quote, "If aid does not enter to Gaza Strip within the next 48 hours — especially baby formula and flour — then prepare yourselves for the largest mass death crime in history."

All Jews support those responsible for that (and I'm being cautious here with my phrasing)

About how Zionists are Nazis.

All Jews are Nazis.

Or gay-ace, who I couldn't confirm doesn't post watermelons on everything but is still mighty sketchy.

They've reblogged posts saying October 7th was cool actually. And in a disturbing connect-the-dots puzzle, they've reblogged things saying the Brian Thompson killer was innocent. Their pinned post calls what's happening in Gaza a genocide.

If extrajudicial murder of horrible people is justified...and if Jews support genocide...?

The conclusions aren't pretty.

tagging likers if they want to explain/rebut my arguments, also cause I want someone to argue with: @gaycatlover27, @deep-sea-siphonophore, @cactusrosier, @roucacia, @gay-ace.

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Israel?? Israel referred to Jews back then!

And if "Jews are behind World War One" isn't a fucking obvious antisemitic conspiracy theory, I don't know what the fuck is!

Idiot. Medinat yisrael was thirty-four years away at the start of World War One. Tel Aviv had just been founded on its legally purchased land.

This is huda. The creater and owner of Huda beauty (a billion dollar company). Making a tiktok to talk about how “all this evidence is coming out about israel being behind EVERYTHING- like WW1 and WW2”.

World War One. Israel being behind World War One. Israel didn’t fucking exist.

Don’t ever fucking tell me these people don’t use Israel, Zionist, and Jew interchangeably.

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AH FUCKFUCKFUCK THIS IS EVEN WORSE

goddamnit someone's going to ask me how I am today and I'm going to need to answer "fine" and not "Do you think it's illegal to forcibly educate someone?" or "terrified" or "considering making aliyah", nice job.

I'M FINE.

THIS IS A REAL POST BY A REAL CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA AND THERE IS JUST SO MUCH WRONG I CAN'T EVEN.

(Archive.is link, conservative JNS giving more detail, JPost too).

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tbf he's not wrong, he says he's german. and it's not just the shoah, germany--like most of europe--has a long tradition of antisemitism.

but also yes fuck his ancestors. "But Jew-hate is a tradition" is not the slam-dunk win you think it is, kyle. i get why you think that, if you think jews bad you must also think debating and argument and rhetoric bad, but...

I'M FINE.

THIS IS A REAL POST BY A REAL CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA AND THERE IS JUST SO MUCH WRONG I CAN'T EVEN.

(Archive.is link, conservative JNS giving more detail, JPost too).

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I'M FINE.

THIS IS A REAL POST BY A REAL CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA AND THERE IS JUST SO MUCH WRONG I CAN'T EVEN.

(Archive.is link, conservative JNS giving more detail, JPost too).

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I mean there's a larger tradition of vaguely devil-like figures in Talmud. If you believe that's the Oral Torah then you could make an argument.

“Educate yourself”, said the non-jewish person to the jewish person about jewish history, legacy and ancestors. 

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE, AMIRITE??

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meanwhile in reality (blue is roughly 'ancient middle eastern', snapshot of a larger graph, and I drew the line in myself)

huh. I'm not the best at spatial sense, but I think the Iranian Jew bar is higher than the Palestinian one...*

source: Agranat-Tamir, L., Waldman, S., Martin, M. A. S., Gokhman, D., Mishol, N., Eshel, T., Cheronet, O., Rohland, N., Mallick, S., Adamski, N., Lawson, A. M., Mah, M., Michel, M., Oppenheimer, J., Stewardson, K., Candilio, F., Keating, D., Gamarra, B., Tzur, S., … Reich, D. (2020). The genomic history of the bronze age southern levant. Cell, 181(5), 1146-1157.e11. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cell.2020.04.024.

*this whole thing is blood quantum BS but come on iranian jews are more palestinian than palestinians!

The Video:

Doing the “I have one daughter” sound trend on TikTok

The comments:

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I would have liked to know them.

I would have liked to see what happens.

I would have liked to be able to go to the places I come from and see distant relatives, not ashes and corpses.

I would have liked to be able to see what happens and why and how and everything.

I would have liked to read Hannah Senesh's other poems.

I would have liked to be able to have family trees that don't peter out whenever the relatives don't go to America, that don't have so many entire family perished in the Shoah notes.

I would have liked to see what Janusz Korczak would have done with his life. Regina Jonas's accomplishments. Ziegelbojm's opinions.

Perhaps Silke Nisenboim's little daughter of Chelm would have done something great. Yakov son of Simcha Shlipke, of Siedlce. Tula Reiser, daughter of Natan (son of Zvi and Sara) and Nusia, all of Lodz; all the people I listed are dead. Eliezer and his children and grandchildren, Meir (Issachar, Sonia), Moshe (Sigmund), Markus (Herma) and Yitzchak (Vera), also of Lodz. Margarete Regina Landsberg of Berlin, killed just before she turned ten.

I would have liked Rabbi Shimon Rozovski of Eishishok to have seen the founding of Israel, staunch Zionist he was. I would have liked the number "six million" to have no special significance. I would have liked to be able to hear other tongues--Yevanic and Ladino and Yiddish and this and that--instead of a dull hegemony.

I would have liked to believe that Dreyfus was just a hiccup. That modernity truly was the answer to antisemitism. That if we assimilated and proved ourselves again and again and again, we would be accepted.

"There's an underlying rage that comes out sometimes. And it's 'What are you getting all mad about? Nobody did anything to you.' But they wiped out my family. I would have liked to have known some of these people."

-Billy Joel, talking about his family history with the Holocaust.

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also, chabad said it fell under pikuach nefesh to do stuff on shabbos and hello have you met a chabadnik?? they do not do that for normal stuff.

"Well the hate crimes are worth it if they get Netanyahu to back down!" first of all, no they fucking aren't, second of all, I'm far from an expert on Israeli politics but when exactly did Netanyahu and his government give you the idea that their response to antisemitic attacks against the diaspora would be anything other than "see? this is exactly why we need to keep doing what we're doing!"

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I'm just stuck on the "I've read the original Hebrew" because like (disclaimer, standard reform diaspora jew--my hebrew sucks) but there's nothing about original sin or anything remotely like it in the JPS translation.

Like yes you could make an argument for the devil existing. I'm down with that. But original sin? Nope. Is G-d pissed? Yeah. But when They're like "ah screw it fine here are some clothes" after that (Gen. 3:21) "in order that He would not have to expel them from Gan Eden while they were naked" (Sforno). Sforno also says that "the place to which Adam was transferred was compatible with the requirements of his constitution, more so than other areas on the globe." Rabbi Nechemya claims G-d dealt with man "mercifully" and didn't preclude us from Gan Eden in the World-to-Come. Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi concurs on the mercy. (these from midrashim)

Indeed, when Cain--a murderer--begs for mercy, G-d grants it. This is hardly indicative of any sort of 'original sin'.

Sure you "read the Hebrew". But you read it through the eyes which see young woman and say virgin, through the eyes which see radiant and say horned, the eyes which see miscarriage and say early birth, the eyes which see one thing and say another. (yes all of those are real xtian things)

“Educate yourself”, said the non-jewish person to the jewish person about jewish history, legacy and ancestors. 

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE, AMIRITE??

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aw, thanks! :)

Hey, Jewish people, I love you and I am glad you are alive!

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Yes. Thank you.

I feel physically ill after I read about antisemitic incidents on here.

When I was living in Berlin, seeing the plaques to murdered families in the sidewalk every few houses, and bulletholes left in buildings, the facade scarring and shadows ever-present while survivors and descendants pass you on the street -- you could feel it. This is living history, just 80 years ago-- and yet we have droves of soul-rotted people doing this century's round of Jew-hate. They think they're righteous.

Nothing is fun to me now. I saw some fucker on a video game this week who had named himself Jewgasser and everyone in the server was encouraging it like it was hilarious. I can't engage in hobbies without being affronted daily. Some woman had named herself HollieCaust.

I feel alone and I feel like I'm going crazy because I love Jewish people, and I feel constantly disgusted and scared at how hostile an environment for Jews people constantly cultivate. Why would anyone do that? Once you start to see it, the hatred is everywhere. Everyone is inundated with it. The most horrific thing that has ever occurred is treated as a throwaway joke. I cannot stand it. It hurts so badly. It's not about me, I'm not Jewish, and I don't mean to make anything about me. I just want to not feel alone like this for another moment.

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Yeah you think we appropriated Arabic names for our evil settler-colonial project Maria? Huh. That's interesting.

i know that millennia of colonization means that names that originated in our culture don't seem to belong to us at all anymore but it's still so wild to me when goyim with hebrew/hebrew-derived names are antisemitic like. oh really rachel you think israel is a terrorist state? wow joshua you think (((zionists))) are the new nazis? how interesting

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literal genocide seems iffy? Like yes the Shoah was clearly of a different type but...IDK I'm just uncomfortable with the idea that it's "not a genocide" (as the implication seems to be)

yes I recognize indigenous american populations plummeted. however, the residential schools era of the early-regrettably late twentieth century was marked by, by and large, the conclusion of mass killings--in other words, no longer was it a 'literal' genocide (as you define it) but basically only a cultural one. Also there's good data on it.

ok so it was a bad example. but I could construct dozens of similar ones. Take the USSR's Jews. In 1946 there were two million Jews there (who had been somewhat devastated by the Shoah, but on the other hand the USSR was an important place of refuge, so it may well have been on net a gain). Thirty years later (forty years later Berman Jewish Databank doesn't have and fifty years later is after the collapse of the USSR) it had increased by about 600,000. This doesn't seem like a lot, but is about in line with world Jewish population growth. But describing the USSR then as "friendly" towards Jews and Judaism would be, of course, inaccurate. I'm not sure if it rises to the level of genocide; but as a proof-of-concept it works fine.

Another example: From 1926-1989, despite a cultural genocide (and to some extent 'literal' genocide), the number of Crimean Tatars in the USSR actually increased.

Another: The rate of growth of the Tibetan population? It went up after/during the ongoing Chinese cultural genocide as compared to when it was independent.

The Uyghur population has grown significantly faster (over twice as fast, in fact) than the Han Chinese population, and yet the Uyghur genocide is nonetheless quite real.

I agree with your claim overall; but bad arguments supporting a claim I otherwise agree with bother me a great deal.

let’s put our thinking caps on. which is more likely?

a) when the Nazis claimed there was a Jewish Zionist plot to genocide & control goyim as a pretext to genocide Jews, it was a lie, but ☝️ it became true later, and the sharp rise in violent hate crimes against Jews at the same time this narrative is mainstreamed again is entirely coincidental and/or Jews are making it up

or

b) you live in a society that has been steeping in a hundred years of propaganda accusing Zionist Jews of plotting to genocide goyim, which makes you and the people you’re getting your information from susceptible to believing it, and we are seeing a rise in violent hate crimes against Jews because the narrative that exists as a pretext for violence against Jews is doing its job.

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FRINKLES!!

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monochromatic people like "wtf IT'S THE SAME BEAR"