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[lislemons]

in honor of season two finale of hotd dropping, here’s posts that remind me of hotd characters

[hauntedbythenarrative]

[inviperita]

jonsa as textposts (part 3)

[mechanicalchickens]

post with an audience of 5, but: mitzi is by far the most jon connington character in lackadaisy. it's the yearning, the reaching for a past you can never return to, the inevitable terrible violence.

[mrsjadecurtiss]

fandom has a lot of trouble grasping the concepts of "characters may lash out and say things that they dont mean" and "characters may say things that they meant one way but are received as having a different meaning by other characters"

[silver-horse]

this is why George R.R. Martin can't finish A Song of Ice and Fire

What they don't tell you about writing is that as you write, you discover scenes and entire plots that you hadn't accounted for that need to be written. So you can spend two hours writing and editing only to realise you're further away from the finish line than you thought you were when you started

[mossytrashcan]

sometimes I keep my insane random textposts up because what if I die and they need to make a tiktok slideshow memorial for my silly ass. also what if an asoiaf fan deems me funny and turns my post into one of their elaborate twitter bits yknow

[lislemons]

asoiaf characters as posts that remind me of them part 23

[hauntedbythenarrative]

Alicent shitposting pt. 38

[inviperita]

jonsa as textposts (part 4)

[rosalinesurvived]

Seeing people Arya stans saying that everyone gives Arya's traits to Sansa... dude, what traits? Quiet dignity? Your fave was running around and attacking people whilst screaming left and right. Northerness? Sansa has spent more time in Winterfell, was born in the North and Arya's direwolf was named after a Rhoynish women, wdym?? Sansa's bond with Jon? They met at the lowest point of their lives and built upwards. What traits are we stealing from Arya and giving to Sansa?

[silver-horse]

Aemond literally had that look on his face that little boys have when they fight “omg, shit, don’t tell our mommies what I did” 

[mrsjadecurtiss]

Not fond of the many theories i see about jon taking mance' cloak and becoming king beyond the wall, like that's pretty much the plot of avatar (2009)... Not the direction i want asoiaf to pivot to. One of the best things about the wildling plot in acok/asos is the very fact that it doesnt fall into the typical pitfalls of "man from the oppressor class joins indigenuous culture" type stories, like jon stays in a side role, doesn't overtake leadership, doesn't become the main special boy that everyone else bows to, learns from them but then leaves to use what he learned to influence the politics of his own people instead of staying and "doing it better than them" because of his unique oppressor class skills

[fineosaur]

[codenameantarctica]

Daenerys vs Aegon

So, after reading a bit into comments and theories about Young Griff/Aegon - which I certainly should not have done because many of those are really appalling – it seems that basically Dany is a total Queen for the same things for which Aegon gets mocked and abused. LOL!

And that’s when comparing them is completely nonsensical anyway.

It’s measuring up »Character A«, that we saw very little of and have no insight (POV) into, to »Character B«, that we have hundreds of pages on (both 3rd Person and POV) – and then judge »Character A« on the grounds of »Character B«.

From the tiny bits we saw of Aegon, it’s not even possible to create a reliable characterization – not if you’re not just trying to shove bias into the gaps as it suits you and execute some wishful condemnation.

For example, one of the accusations towards Aegon that I read quite commonly is that he is arrogant. Not that I would even see that between the lines – but that’s where I am as positively biased towards him as others are negatively biased towards him. Yet apart from that, Dany has a whole lot of scenes – every time she acts as a Khaleesi or Queen in particular – where she is arrogant or at least tries to be. Furthermore, she constantly goes on about all her titles, about being the blood of the dragon, and demands her people to cross the world with her to get her the throne she believes to be hers. That she is fearing and doubting and insecure, we only know from her POV – and the only reason why we do not know about Aegon’s inner monologue is that we did not see any yet. That, however, does not mean that he is a plain, empty caricature who is all that little bit of Tyrion- and JonCon-POV and nothing more. GRRM does not create plain caricature characters – so it’s very unlikely that there is not very much more to his character than the little we saw.

Another accusation often read is that he is naive and inexperienced – and for this, he is compared to Dany, Jon or Robb. But they WERE exactly that: Naive and inexperienced. They grew from it, but they have been with us for a very long time. We saw them grow from being little more than a child to the characters they are today, or to their demise. But Aegon has been sheltered away until basically today. He studied the world, but he has no experience with people. He, just like the others, will either grow or find his demise. Robb was hugely naive throughout his whole campaign, he was just lucky for a while. He headed out to safe, then avenge his father, and it got turned into a wanna-be-king-megalomania. Dany was a scared, little mouse until she found the strength to grow. Jon was as entitled as a bastard could be and pretty arrogant at that until Donal Noye and the rest of the Night’s Watch set his head right. Or take Renly who proved to be stubborn and naive beyond anything when his entire justification for wanting to supplant his older brother was: “people like me more than Stannis“.

Aegon has no tale like that YET. He has been on a boat, hidden away, sheltered. He is just starting out into the world. So comparing him to where Jon and Dany are today, or where Renly and Robb were before they ended, is really absurd. No matter how far the rest of the story is advanced, he is still at the beginning.

Now, please don’t get me wrong: Dany is a wholesome, fascinating character. She has her flaws and strengths because she is not just a caricature. But exactly that is what makes the way Aegon is treated so unfair.

And regardless if he is Aegon or only Young Griff, he is a boy of ~16 who has not seen much of the world. Yes, Daenerys is younger, but she has also been through a lot of shit already – which is not Aegon’s fault, nor is it his fault, that he is inexperienced.

Yes, he assumes that Daenerys will marry him – but so does Daenerys! When she thinks about the son of her older brother at one time, she believes that, had the boy lived, she would have married him because it would have been natural. Targaryens did that sort of thing. Daenerys grew up with that knowledge, just as Aegon did. The idea, that Dany might have a different idea on the matter, makes Aegon react angrily, though it’s not clear whether he is angry that he has been treated like he is a stupid child by Tyrion, whether he feels offended by the idea that Dany might not accept his hand in marriage – or whether he is completely shocked by the idea that all the stuff he has been fed his whole life might not work out as smoothly. It is so easy to read »spoiled brat« into that, but this is only Tyrion’s POV – and Tyrion was in a very bleak mood at that time. We see Aegon being friendly and gentle, laughing and joking, smart and a good student, helping and even saving Tyrion – yet it is that one moment at the Cyvasse Board that people use to judge his character – though that moment was so much more soul wrenching to him that just him losing the game.

All in all, judging Aegon on the same grounds as judging Daenerys makes absolutely no sense. Nothing of this is his doing, either. He is a young boy who is still trying to find his bearings in a world that probably consists only of lies. He might be just a pawn in a play, or he might be the last dragon, and then he is the rightful heir – no matter if Daenerys likes that or not.