#aspd box

[abyss-boxes]

Can I get "This ASPD holder does not care about your feelings" "This alter does not like being referred to as a person" "This alter regards interpersonal relationships in odd ways" and "Warning: will bite if provoked"? Please tag me when it's done, thanks.

[TEXT ID 1-2: “This ASPD holder does not care about your feelings”]

[TEXT ID 3: “This alter does not like being referred to as a person”]

[TEXT ID 4: “This alter regards interpersonal relationships in odd ways”]

[TEXT ID 5: “Warning: will bite if provoked”]

This should automatically tag you, but if it doesn’t, @speaksinstatic !!!

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[npdculture]

NPD symptoms culture is like-

I just always indirectly say I'm smarter than whoever I talk to

Yesterday I was complaining loudly about the stupidity of my psych class (over the organization of group projects) I almost said "I am CLEARLY the smartest person in the class"

I made fun of myself later to my coworkers over that situation.

Like I know that I mayhaps shouldn't show that I feel superior to others but at this point I don't give a fuck

-🍬🐈‍⬛ (if it's not claimed)

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[disabled-sysboxes]

[TEXT ID: this system's ASPD and BPD constantly overlap each other]

[IMG ID: a pinkish purple rectangular box with a dark purple outline and the ASPD flag - a flag with 7 stripes, being salmon coloured, pink, purple, dark purple, darker purple, black, and blue - and the BPD flag - a flag with 7 stripes, being pink, white, grey, black, grey, white, and purple - split down the middle to the left, and the text 'this system's ASPD and BPD constantly overlap each other' to the right.]

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[aspd-culture]

Ive heard of systems developing at later childhood ages due to autism, developmental disorders, developmental delays, trauma impacting the child at later ages due to still having an incohesive self due to developmental delays, etc. I dont have a source tho bc im in the car omw to a doctor appt

Systems as of current understanding have an age range usually limited at the upper end as 9 or 10 by the Theory of Structural Dissociation - which is our only current way that systems are believed to be able to form. Also, they can only form from trauma so the additional disorders wouldn't be relevant except in the way that being autistic in today's society is inherently traumatic.

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Systems as of current understanding have an age range usually limited at the upper end as 9 or 10 by the Theory of Structural Dissociation - which is our only current way that systems are believed to be able to form. Also, they can only form from trauma so the additional disorders wouldn't be relevant except in the way that being autistic in today's society is inherently traumatic.

[mydarlingedits]

Hello, I stumbled upon your user boxes on my feed and wanted to ask if I could request one that says this user has ASPD with NPD symptoms

ASPD WITH NPD SYMPTONS USERBOXES

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        𐙚˙⋆.˚ Date Posted 𓇿 7/30/24 .ᐟ

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[PLAIN TEXT: 'op is an adult' on the top left, and 'No DNI ! Just be nice' on the bottom right].

[aspdsolace]

been thinking about this for a while but, in regards to low empathy, i have a couple questions. lower affective empathy means that one might not be able to feel how other people feel (ie someone getting sad and you would get sad). lower cognitive empathy would mean that you might not be able to put oneself in another person's shoes, right?

would most people with aspd tend to get irritated, bored or angry whenever there's an emotional response that other people have? do most people with aspd use logic as a ways to figure out how other people react (like, if they get sad it's because of x, and usually someone would have to end up comforting them/listen to them), or am i completely off the mark on here? if not, do they also end up masking a lot of their low/no empathy because the social reaction wouldn't be desirable?

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yes, lower cognitive empathy would make one have more difficulty with putting oneself in other shoes, and things similar to it.

would most people with aspd tend to get irritated, bored or angry whenever there's an emotional response that other people have?

i'm not quite sure if you mean if they're having the emotional response to someones empathy, or if they see someone else expressing empathy or having a general emotional response, so i'll answer both ways.

personally, if i have the emotional response (often only happens with my partner, but weakly), i can get a little irritated but it's less due to the fact i'm having the emotional response and more due to the fact that, despite the fact i'm experiencing a little bit of affective empathy, i'll still feel the typical annoyance i experience when people display strong emotion around me; especially if i know i'll have to perform much stronger empathy than i'm feeling in the moment. i'm not sure about others, though.

if you mean when other people experience it or have a general emotional response to a situation, it does depend on the person but it does tend to be more common to get bored, annoyed, or angry if they're seeing someone else having an emotional reaction. it can depend on the general symptoms they have, though, and if there's comorbities that may change anything.

do most people with aspd use logic as a ways to figure out how other people react (like, if they get sad it's because of x, and usually someone would have to end up comforting them/listen to them) or am i completely off the mark on here?

i'd say you're right, typically. not everyone, some don't really care to do all the cognitive work. i personally only really try to go through all that trouble if it's someone closer to me. but i usually have to use the logic and think through why something might be upsetting someone. if i don't really think through that i kind of don't entirely understand and can be blunt or rude, unless it's something that is generally universal, such as "death makes people sad." this is partially impacted by being autistic, though.

do they also end up masking a lot of their low/no empathy because the social reaction wouldn't be desirable?

some certainly do. it can depend if they see benefit from it. i do since i see making others more upset, thus getting reprimanded or making them have another emotional reaction targeted towards me, as more inconvenient to me as just... pretending to give a fuck. at least in the moment. it's definitely exhausting, though, since i have to put on the emotions. not to mention it may make them feel invited to talk more about it.

i essentially do it for personal convenience, some may do it because they value being higher up or more powerful in the social hierarchy, there may be other reasons. some don't because they don't care to and don't feel they get any benefit from keeping those around them happy with them, so on.

[bleue-flora]

Hey same anon :]

Undiagnosed more in a "he's clearly some type of neurodivergent, but his parents refuse to acknowledge it and shame P!Tommy for any type of coping mechanisms he tries to form (stop shaking your hands, we're in public. Stop making that noise, it's annoying. You dont need the plushie, you're too old to carry it around. Cant you stop making things up for attention?) so sometimes he meltdown badly and gets completly overwhelmed even tho normally he doesn't mind/likes lots of noise and people"

And thats when he asks to go to Exile, because he's overwhelmed, doesn't want anyone to see him like that, and is deeply upset about how a happy moment turned sour so quick. + he doesn't want to scream at his friends if they try to talk to him :[

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I mean you have a right to believe what you want or make up your own kid Tommy for this concept of it all being an imagination game between kids, but again in my mind I don't think any version of Tommy is or should be considered neurodivergent/autistic, he just doesn't have the characteristics and that's saying something considering that the spectrum is pretty diverse. And I say that as someone who is autistic and has ADHD, whose friends are pretty much all diagnosed or undiagnosed neurodivegent with autistic and/or ADHD, whose family has a whole bunch of neurodivergence and who sees a therapist regularly who specializes in autism. Now I'm not going to claim I know everything, but I think from personal experience both from being around others and my own life as well as having researched and studied it enough to say Tommy is an annoying kid, but that doesn't make him autistic. Some kids are just annoying and loud and stuff but that doesn't mean he's stimming or whatever. Plus we don't see cc!Tommy stim, we don't see c!Tommy stim so why would p!Tommy, a kid who plays c!Tommy in his game of make believe stim? It doesn't make sense.

Some common traits of autism (obviously not all inclusive) is logical minded, struggle to understand emotions, tendency to be honest to the point of rude (not to say we can't lie but it's not our default and if we are lying there's either a reason or it's part of masking), tendency to follow rules and like fairness and justice, tend to be good at patterns and puzzles... do those sound like Tommy to you? because while the spectrum is diverse these are just a few examples of him missing the mark entirely... or perhaps the biggest reason Tommy isn't autistic - he doesn't make sense to me. He lacks all logic and the things he does do not make sense to me or my autistic friends I've told, not because I am unempathetic or unable to see people's point of view (I have actually spent a lot of time working on myself to develop those skills), but because he is neurotypical and I will always struggle to understand them because my brain does not think like they do...

[darkestrellar]

the fine line of svern being a generally terrible person and how his innate traits of Just How He's Built contribute to that but don't Make him that, how being dehumanised for those traits has caused him to become Worse but he has also become worse voluntarily and is unbothered and actively enjoys it in some ways, how he simultaneously humanises and dehumanises himself and how it affects his behaviour and actions and how it all plays together to create his eventual story outcome (bad end) OR how he is still able to grow and get better with intervention but it's an Entire Thing for all the parties involved. there's a lot going on with him and I try hard to keep it balanced

[disabledsysboxes]

Cluster b - 1

Tagging @yourstruly-phantom for bpd

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[TEXT ID: “This system has BPD/NPD/ASPD/HPD”]

I used the flags I see used most commonly!! If people want alternatives I can make them!!

[disabledstraydogs]

I want to make this blog but for idols and vocal synths (another major special interest) but I already have the disabledidols url in use... Will need to find another...

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B33 < finalllyyyy finished my beta troll headcaon lineup!! furst things furst, my ask box is open for Beta troll + kids drawing requests!! I need to purractice drawing the sillies

alsooo feel like mentioning, these hc’s are for the early half of the game - I am gonna draw their adult + post game looks because thoseee headcanons are different

like for example!! I hc aradia gaining a lot of weight after no longer inhabiting her robo bod! Eridan being able to express their gender identity in the dream bubbles!

Tbf the art is sort of old, and I already want to update my designs but whatevs

Hcs under the cut…. B33

Here’s my personal headcanons, don’t start shit, if you don’t like, you can make ur own post with ur own hcs BDD

Aradia Medigo - transfem aroace spec

~ Struggles with persistent depression but is recovering slowly

~ Puts on weight after the game

~ ASD

Tavros Nitram - transmasc polysexual

~ bulks up during the game!

~ Legs are prosthetics, he still uses their chair on rougher days

~ anxiety and ptsd, struggles with unhealthy attachments (clearly)

Sollux Captor - nonbinary pan

~ Also ASD + Bipolar

~ Acne scars!!

~ Lisp is from crooked teeth

Karkat Vantas - Nonbinary he/himmer, poly with masc pref

~ Super repressed about gender during the game, Jegbert helps with coming to terms with things

~ Anger issues as a response to traumatic living conditions on alternia

~ Adult him is very fat and hairy :)

Nepeta Leijon - transmasc trixic

~ Comes out during the game

~ ASD and ADHD, cannot mask well

~ Looks tiny and weak but could bench press you (cuz its funny)

Kanaya Maryam - femby lesbian (she wears binders :o

~ total vegan till she goes rainbowdrinker

~ binds regularly, prefers a flat silhouette

~ gender + sexuality relationship is unique due to pansexual being the societies default

Terezi Pyrope - Transfem queer

~ does not shave, ever under any circumstances

~ OCD, has a lotttt of rituals

~ transed her gender pre game due to flarping

Vriska Serket - Transfem lesbian

~ ASPD, doing treatment, symptoms lesson as she gets older

~ has severe scarring on her left side, when she is younger she hides scarring via makeup and long clothes cuz teenage insecurity she grows out of

~ same as terezi, flarping helped her come out, terezi and her are very close cuz of this similarity

Equius Zahhak - Agender asexual

~ hypersexual and sex repulsed

~ ASD, also bad at masking, hence why meowrails get along so well

~ has hyperhydrosis

Gamzee Makara - nonbinary ??????

~ bpd, he tends to split on people accidentally, Karkat is his fp :)

~ disassociates often, memory is poor and has slow processing because his thoughts always feel crowding

~ his abuse of sopor pies is a coping mechanism, helps with his sensory issues

Eridan Ampora - Genderfluid pan

~ definitely was a really obnoxious femboy at one point before coming out

~ a lot of their incel-ness comes from repressing their gender

~ ASD, really bad at reading other people

Feferi Peixes - demigirl pan

~ if kanaya is alternia goth, then Fef definitely is, big into counterculture

~ ASD, hyperempath, way too good at masking except for when she’s overtly excited

~ is a vegan, feels incredibly guilty for feeding her lusus

Anyways…. If you read all that congrats lollll

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[TEXT ID: this alter struggles with empathy due to autism and ASPD]

[IMG ID: a light, desaturated pink rectangular box with a black outline and the autism flag - a flag with 5 stripes, a red, orange, yellow, light green, and green and a white infinity symbol in the middle - and the ASPD flag - a flag with 7 stripes, being salom coloured, pink, purple, dark purple, darker purple, black, and blue - split down the middle to the left, and the text 'this alter struggles with empathy due to autism and ASPD' to the right.]

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[mydarlingedits]

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Edit: BOOO JUST NOTICED A SPELLING ERROR. Oh well . Might fix it eventually. For now I am lazy ᯓᡣ𐭩

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[PLAIN TEXT: 'op is an adult' on the top left, and 'No DNI ! Just be nice' on the bottom right].

[aspdsolace]

if ur fine with me asking, how does your aspd & avpd interact? would both of the disorder’s symptoms be more or less pronounced compared to one w/out avpd? what about the self destructive symptoms and boredom that comes w/ aspd, as well as the constant pushing against of authrotiy (like parents, teachers, etc)

can this lead to more quieter forms of self harm and recklessness or would one part of aspd end up completely overriding that? i have a lot of questions concerning about how these two can coincide and a lot of avpd’s stmptoms — what with the fear or rejection / embarassment / being very afraid of close emotiona contact — is very very contradictory w/ aspd.

im hoping this doesnt seem like something im overstepping on, because i’ve had a lot of questions as to how it works.

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edit: (here's what an anon has to say as well.)

so, first of all, this is fine to ask! although, i do not have avpd; thought i did, and while i have some traits, i'm moreso agoraphobic and have dpd. i can still answer your questions, though, based on my knowledge.

i'd say it depends on the person, mostly. what disorder do they struggle with more, if any? it may be situational, depend on the day, etc., comorbid personality disorders will always interact in some way like that. avpd likely wouldn't necessarily stop self-destruction and boredom, since it's mostly related to worry about how you're seen, social humiliation, and thus isolation; at most, i'd say it could affect ones recklessness specifically when around other people.

i wouldn't particularly say that avpd's symptoms of the fear of rejection or embarassment, and the fear of close emotional contact contradict aspd's symptoms. although plenty of people with aspd don't care for how they're perceived, comorbidity could definitely change that (or not, since aspd can present in so many ways), and some people with an aspd and avpd comorbidity may lie and manipulate others to try to avoid humiliation, with those symptoms motivating this behavior. and with the fear of close emotional contact—although the reasoning different, aspd most often does make us afraid or wary of this, so the comorbidity may as well just worsen the feeling as there's different sources of fear as a result of the comorbidity.

needless to say, avpd and the fear of humiliation, embarrassment, and rejection wouldn't necessarily make one stop acting out in retaliation of authority, acting recklessly, and so on. it may in some situations, but many times if someone with both does act out in some way due to their aspd, they may just deeply regret it and be ashamed later on, and ruminate on it and how it may have affected others views on oneself.

hope this helps at all? if anyone with an aspd and avpd comorbidity wants to chip in, please do; i'm sure it would be helpful to anon!