#denethor II
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I know it’s a woobification thing but it’s so weird seeing posts about how Faramir is this poor victim of abuse who Éowyn has to look after and protect.
She’s had it so much worse than he has! She would have killed to have Faramir’s life. Faramir is taken seriously and accorded his due honour by his father. He is given positions of command and authority and always taken seriously. At all times he maintains his agency.
His relationship with Denethor is very toxic and unhealthy, but Denethor never forgets him and takes him seriously enough to argue with him rather than dismissing or ignoring him. Faramir has never had to live under constant threat of violence as a result of abuse or neglect from his immediate family.
The same cannot be said for Éowyn. By the time we meet her she is chronically depressed and approaching suicidal. She has lived for years under the threat of sexual violence at the hands of Grima and has been consistently failed by the men in her family.
She has had to put aside her own life for years to care for Théoden, an increasingly thankless and demeaning task, and when he no longer needs her he almost forgets she exists until he’s dying. Háma has to remind Théoden of her existence at one point.
This isn’t a call to woobify Éowyn-she wouldn’t want your pity! But we should acknowledge just how horrible her life has been up to that point, and people like Théoden let that happen.
#faramir#éowyn#farawyn#denethor ii#théoden#lotr#rohan always gets portrayed as more progressive than gondor towards women#which is wild to me#éowyn is nearly destroyed by the experience of living in a patriarchal warrior culture#genuinely think faramir would hate théoden#while éowyn might get on with denethor
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The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
#boromir#faramir#denethor ii#lotredit#boromiredit#tolkienedit#lotr#lord of the rings#sean bean#filmedit#filmtvdaily#filmtvcentral#david wenham#john noble#mari's stuff#heartbreaking tbh
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After having to hash out the same points over and over in defence of Book!Boromir and Book!Denethor over their film counterparts I have finally just made a tag to refer too instead;
Boromir defense
Denethor defense
Use any and all posts within as you see fit.
#text post#boromir#denethor#denethor ii#erran vs tolkien#erran vs peter jackson#denethor defense#boromir defense
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It's not literally "chucking under the chin" but I kinda feel this vibe...
#lotr#lord of the rings#denethor II#denethor#pippin#pippin took#peregrin took#it's rice paper btw#I'm struggling#how to draw on it???#sorry sorry sorry I'm so sorry#I did not know about the meaning of the gesture but now...#does it count as shipping?
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Realizing that Denethor was supposed to be “attractive” was not on my 2024 bingo card.
“Denethor looked indeed much more like a great wizard than Gandalf did, more kingly, beautiful, and powerful; and older.” — Return of the King, Chapter 1
“Denethor was a proud man, tall, valiant, and more kingly than any man that had appeared in Gondor for many lives of men; and he was wise also, and far-sighted, and learned in lore.”— Lord of the Rings, Appendix A
You’re telling me, Denethor could have been:




artists (left to right, row by row): Catherine Karina Chmiel, Katarzyna Chmiel-Gugulska, Joshua Cairós, & Magali Villeneuve
Because seriously…daddy? sorry. daddy? sorry. daddy? sorry.
But instead we were gifted creepy tomato uncle vibes:
Bruhh…
Also the tomato was just unnecessary to have imprinted on my brain for all eternity
#lotr#lord of the rings#the hobbit#denethor#Denethor II#gondor#steward of Gondor#LOTR shitpost#LOTR shitposts#LOTR meme#LOTR memes#LOTR art#Denethor art#lord of the rings art#faramir#boromir
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lotr + tumblr
#this is not a lotr quote#lotr#lord of the rings#denethor#faramir#boromir#gandalf#text post#denethor ii#faramir of gondor#faramir son of denethor#boromir son of denethor#gandalf the white#gandalf the grey#the lord of the rings#the return of the king#lotr rotk
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Denethor: This year I lost my dear son, Faramir.
Faramir: QUIT TELLIN' EVERYONE I'M DEAD!
Denethor: Sometimes I can still hear his voice . . .
#🔥 🔥 🔥#my poor faramir#incorrect lotr quotes#faramir#denethor#denethor ii#lotr#the lord of the rings#incorrect quotes#incorrect lord of the rings quotes#faramir needs a hug#lord of the rings#boromir#boromir and faramir#faramir and boromir
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I had the idea of a fanfic where Boromir survives and serve Aragorn and the White City as a loyal general. He lives a romantic arrangement with his king and start opening himself to this part of him he put in the closet a long time ago to please a certain father. Unfortunaly, Denethor survives too and have to accept this entire situation and deal with his own faults towards everyone, mostly with Faramir. Pretty much angst and drama but a lot of confort between the sons of Gondor.
If it already exist, please share your knowlege with my simple soul.
#my thoughts#thoughts#lotr#lord of the rings#denethor II#denethor#boromir#faramir#aragorn#gondor#post canon#time of peace and reboot#gay#coming out#boromir survives#everyone survives#boromir lives au
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a sketch of a younger denethor ii steward of gondor
#or at least how he looks in my head!!!#m text#denethor ii#lotr#lord of the rings#steward of gondor#denethor#boromir#faramir#scheduling this for not 1am
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Tolkien, repeatedly and consistently: Whatever Denethor's flaws he was one of the most learned and wise Men in Gondor.
Fandom, inexplicably: Denethor hates Faramir because he reads books.
#gah shut up!#denethor ii#faramir#húrinionath#historian!denethor is actually his canon characterisation!#the scene with pippin's sword directly parallels elrond identifying glamdring and orcrist!#HE DOESN'T HATE FARAMIR BECAUSE HE'S BOOKISH#Please be like Denethor and Faramir and learn to read#this isn't even a film thing neither of film faramir or denethor are ever shown to be wise or to take any interest in lore or history
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honestly if pippin served denethor for just a bit longer he wouldve worked wonders for denethor's mental state
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Things the Palantiri AREN'T;
able to see the future
inherently corrupt or corrupting
mind invasion doohickies
physically controlled, you do not need to touch one to use it
something you go too for prophetic visions of any kind
dangerous objects that Gandalf needs to fuss over
Things the Palantiri ARE;
capricious little beasts who play favouritism (no I won't work properly for you Sauron you aren't my dad)
technically able to see anything from any distance away and through any barrier no matter how thick unless it's too dark
able to connect to each other and do video but NOT audio skyping
able to save those skype calls on-device so you can go back and look at them later
Possibly can give you super hearing if you use them enough (???)
neat
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Random AU idea
So a bunch of characters in Tolkien's Legendarium share names,
I think it would be quite fun if everyone met their name matches and had a picnic or something with them!
Denethor I meets Denethor II meets Denethor son of Lenwe
Tar-Miriel meets Miriel Firiel Þerinde
Legolas Greenleaf meets Legolas of Gondolin
Lily Baggins meets Lily Brown meets my oc Lily
Finduilas of Dol Amroth meets Finduilas Faelivrin
Bill the Pony meets William "Bill" the troll
Durin I meets Durin II meets Durin III meets Durin IV meets Durin V meets Durin VI meets Durin VII meets Durin's Bane
Frodo Gardner meets Frodo Baggins :')
#middle earth#tolkien fandom#lord of the rings#lotr#denethor#miriel#tar miriel#Denethor (the elf)#Denethor II#Durin#Durin's Bane#Lily Baggins#Lily Brown#oc: Lily the Nazgul#Legolas#Legolas of Gondolin#Finduilas#the silmarillion#names#AU#randomness#Frodo#Frodo Baggins#Frodo Gardner#bill the pony#William Huggins
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Im not saying Denethor II was right but I would also like to hedonistically eat while being serenaded by a little twink.
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Once in a while I like to remind people that Denethor II Son of Ecthelion Lord and Steward of Gondor, was canonically hot.
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#conclusion: denethor/finduilas is monster4monster faramir/éowyn is monster/monsterfucker
@anghraine's tags because they're perfect.
Gandalf about Denethor:
‘He has long sight. He can perceive, if he bends his will thither, much of what is passing in the minds of men, even of those that dwell far off. It is difficult to deceive him, and dangerous to try.’
Frodo with Faramir and Gollum:
‘Do you know the name of that high pass?’ said Faramir.
‘No,’ said Frodo.
‘It is called Cirith Ungol.’ Gollum hissed sharply and began muttering to himself. 'Is not that its name?’ said Faramir turning to him.
'No!’ said Gollum, and then he squealed, as if something had stabbed him.
:)
#denethor ii#finduilas of dol amroth#faramir#éowyn#denethor/finduilas#farawyn#dúnedain#gondor#húrinionath#lotr
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