#fictive discourse

[traumagenicfictiveculture]

We came out to our irl best friend as a system but we’re too terrified to tell him we’re mostly fictives so we told him we just chose names based on our fav characters hahaha hahaha cries

[xqueerneurosisx]

Anyway I honestly feel like telling people who try to badmouth or like shame others out of making source calls to shut the fuck up. Once again it’s giving trying to project what’s healthy for one sys onto what’s healthy for another and y’all just don’t know people’s headspaces like that.

Sooo you’re telling me you’re just gonna shit on ppl who have been ripped away from their place in life basically to show up in a headspace, and then everybody in the new place starts trying to tell them not only are they NOT really who they think are, but they’re also bad and wrong and unhealthy to want to seek out something familiar to all they’ve known while they try to come to terms with that??

I think It’s fucking cruel

[qtallulah]

having “syskids and littles are not allowed to talk in this server / are ONLY allowed to talk in the littles-only chat where they can’t swear or engage in any topic more adult than my little pony” as your server rules is weird as hell!

you dont say “traumaholders aren’t allowed” or “persecutors aren’t allowed.” its *only* ever with littles!

i am SO tired of constantly having to defend my existence to random people on the internet. i, for example, am *the host* of my system. i front 80% of the time. are you saying im not allowed to talk in your server 80% of the time?

its ableism, imo! i am tired of being infantilized every time i bring up my age as an alter!! i will simply lie to you!

[wiredshark]

Not you saying "endos dni" and then using the word fictive which has been traced back to being coined by endos

Not endos literally stealin every fuckin OSDD/DID term under the sun

Not you hidin behind anon like a pussy

Not you crossin DNI just to hate on one rando on the internet

Not you wastin ur time sayin that instead of gettin a life

I could go on? xoxo

Endos make a mockery of actual traumatised people. Either yall have gaslighted urself into this shit or have repressed trauma. Either way, endos ain’t valid and never will be. Endo rhetoric is harmful misinformation. Come to me when endos stop invadin actual system spaces, okay? x

[sainteclectic]

and btw since I'm posting a lot of wholesoul content (intended as platonic but still), i do want to make it clear: my analysis of whole as a character is purely within the narrative of the story! while i am aware that behind the metaphors is whole is cj himself, that's never what i'm writing whole as in my work. basically I'm using the internal logic of the fiction (whole as viewed by the characters in the album) rather than the reason for the fiction existing (as a fictionalized version of chonny's mental state), just like i do with all the other characters. it's important to make that distinction when you're dealing with a piece of fiction so heavily based on the creator i think. I'll never use cj as a basis for how I write whole because I find that a little off putting tbh ^^;

basically I'm playing with touys. ok? play touys with me

[theerrorsans]

Attempting some askerrorsans style and uh yeah. I fucked up the coloring on his jacket in the last panel, lol.

[prose-among-the-trees]

Something I really struggle with in did spaces is just how sensationalized introjects are.

Introjects are parts that take on identity traits or qualities of someone either fictional or factual. The most common type of introject is an abuser. I at one point was aware of one, I don’t know if that’s still the case. Fictional introjects come about when a child undergoes extreme trauma and the lines between the media they’re consuming and the real world abuse get blurred.

Why do syscord and sysblr treat introjects like characters? You all will yell about how introjects aren’t their sources while demanding borderline roleplay out of anyone you come across, whether you’re the introject or whether you’re interacting as a “fan.”

I haven’t opened up about introjects because they’re either based off of abusers or very indicative of my trauma, and I don’t intend to do much here, but I’ll say this.

It’s not painful to be an introject because you miss source or your friends or family.

It’s painful to be an introject because you attribute traits that were in the media onto abusers of yours and feel crazy when that’s the only way you know how to associate them.

I wasn’t literally in the situations that I’m based off of in my source (it’s a novel), but now I can only associate my abuser with systematic and intentional abuse, and not the accident that it actually was. I have such a hard time believing that what I experienced just happened to occur, and that it wasn’t some insidious attempt to ruin me the second my abuser had the chance to.

Introjection is such a complex process that changes your outlook on absolutely everything. I cannot understand the desire to survive such an ordeal as trauma and abuse and to want something like an introject as a result.

These are not fictional character besties that live in your brain, or YouTubers who want wacky situations with you, these are traumatized parts that have embodied traits of characters you were so immersed in you couldn’t tell the difference, or abusers who emulate the same traits that harmed you in the first place.

Do better system community

[genderqueeradrien]

i still think shipping content creators who were 16-18 and Actively Said A Billion Times Not To Ship them and also Got Doxxed About It and also Had Whole Subtwts Dedicated To Posting Nsfw About Them When They Were Minors is bad. and i still think sexualizing their characters (Who Were Minors And Who The Ccs Repeatedly Said Not To Sexualize) is weird. and i still think tumblr is a Public Website which some of these ccs Have and could see posts about them on it. and therefore is not the place to be Truthing. sorry!

[the-fermi-system]

burning question:

Arrow pointing to A: musician

Arrow pointing to B: recurring character in A's music video lore

Further context: A also appears in his own music videos, but those videos are part of a fictional universe with its own story. While his character in this story is pretty much a self-insert, the A we introjected identifies only as the real-life musician.

[catboyaventurine]

before i say all this keep in mind. im a system im a headmate in a system, i am a fictive, and our host is a fictive so we've both been confused about this for some time ;

What, in your opinion, is the difference between fictionkin + fictive?

i used to think it was fictives had source memories and fictionkin dont but ive seen fictionkins talk abt those too in an almost identical way as fictives do, which gets me curious to ask other fictives and fictionkin; what would you classify the difference as?

[traumagenicfictiveculture]

I didn’t see any blogs who are for fictives of traumagenic systems only and I needed one so I just made it.

If you have any confessions or vents or anything you wanna ask about system shit and you have fictives/factives/ect feel free to send it here.

[shitty-proendo-blackout-posts]

[the-crystal-femmes]

I don't usually post on tags (and especially not one of these tags but I feel the need to)

We saw the term yumeship by proxy, which makes a lot of sense that that's being coined but

Would that technically include someone who's selfshipping because they're in a relationship with a fictionfolk?

[ pt: Would that technically include someone who's selfshipping because they're in a relationship with a fictionfolk? /end pt ]

I don't mean that in like. A judgemental way at all, I'm more so asking if that's also included in the definition. My wife and I are fictionfolk and technically selfship because we don't want to source separate and my wife is extremely source connected /gen question

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[piratesparrotdraconian]

i accidentally stumbled upon that systemcringe subreddit when searching for some carrd inspiration (it was a post bashing a system's carrd). i'm not a system at all but it still just made me feel so uneasy about myself (i have plural-aligned experiences, so any anti-plural rhetoric still feel targeted at me).

apparently, people there hate alterhumans and nonbinary people too as they were making fun of neopronouns and alterhuman IDs. idk this just makes me scared for myself and other people in the MOGAI community. targeted harassment against a harmless group of people who are often mentally volatile just seems debatably evil.

my mental health has already been in the drain since i've been thinking about how most human people in the world will never accept my identity solely because i'm too weird, and this is not helping at all.

i just want to be left alone. i just wanna be myself in peace.

[0crooked-arcade0]

Something I find hilarious is the fact that since IHNMAIMS gained popularity again, the system community is doing its regular back and forth introject discourse BS and saying shit like. "You can't split alters from a new source of media that fast-"

Like, buddy, what on God's green earth are you talking about? I hate to break it to you but most of the people you come across have been here since the fucking dark ages.

This isn't a creation, it's a summoning, AMs lived in my head rent free for almost a decade.