#im so frustrated with this discourse
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reineyday · 1 month ago
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why do they keep making bucky a government-manipulated pawn 😭 from the american military to hydra to whatever weirdass public relations campaign valentina is pushing the thunderbolts through (see: end credit graphics & the cereal campaign), like he had his brief time on the run and his goats in wakanda but he's sucked back into a sketchy institution once again like what are they doing with him. sure the movie was fun, but every time i think about it i just end up head in hands.
#rei rambles#anti thunderbolts#bucky barnes#discourse#what was civil war even for#what did sam fight for during falcon winter soldier? why did he even spend his entire movie arguing with ross#hhhhh#and it's so disrespectful of them to just go along with valentina co-opting both the avengers name and the tower.#at least the thunderbolts was a cute lil inside joke. them being on cereal boxes as the new avengers and using the avengers tower as a base#just makes me feel like they're spitting on the graves of the og avengers. u think steve and nat disagreed w the accords for this?#and yeah maybe tony would be into it but they also put the iron man silhouette underneath bucky's figure in that new promo figure.#looking at the more personal reasons civil war happened--u think tony would be okay with THAT???#and u think bucky who is friends with sam and trusts steve's judgement on who to pass the shield onto: u think that bucky would be okay#with STEVE'S silhouette under WALKER'S figure?????? after everyrhing that happened in tfws???????#promo poster* not figure. my bad.#but yeah. christ almighty i cant sleep i keep ending up frustrated about this.#bucky bb what are they doing to u#also sam doesnt deserve this. sam shouldnt have to keep constantly fighting to be seen as legitimate.#first he has to fight uphill to be recognized as captain america even tho steve handed the shield to him himself#and now he has to fight for the avengers team title? are you fr?????#i truly dont understand why bucky didnt immediately take the mic and call valentina out and finally get her impeached.#yknow. his exact goal at the start of the movie??? it felt strongly implied that the reason he was in congress anyways#was to find a way to arrest her legally and i cant believe he hasnt done it even after 14 months.#i cant believe he's on the other side of sam on this.#he the childhood friend of steve 'im not looking for forgiveness and im way past asking permission' rogers.#long tags#big sigh#and look. maybe the tb* team IS looking for forgiveness so they want to be asking for permission and be held accountable or whatever#but working under or with or for valentina is not the way to do it. she's a master manipulator and a human experimenter.#willing to work with immoral ppl bc of their resources is how zola got hydra tendrils into shield. cmon yall. come on.
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bbnibini · 2 years ago
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I find it so painfully heartbreaking that Solomon just...laughs off all the derision, the name-calling, and possibly even did "evil" things on purpose because it's expected of him at this point. (He had not always been like this as Thirteen pointed out before). There was a time when he was "innocent". When his soul sparkled. When it resembled the kind of soul everyone in these god forsaken (pun intended with spite) three realms seemed to associate with the ever loved MC. He's just...worryingly carefree. And because he's like that, he feels even more of a tragic character to me.
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Sometimes it even seems that he himself would seemingly make up excuses on why he's hated. Oh, it's because I'm a sorcerer this. I might have won a war against Devildom single-handedly this. I have forgotten. But maybe, I did something bad, that. Hon, you were doing that to SURVIVE. You don't have to be a faultless person to deserve compassion. You don't have to be MC to deserve to be loved.
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centipedetea · 11 days ago
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its killing me that spamton is going thru that situation where people hate woobifying fanon so much that they lean too far in the opposite direction and create fanon 2 where he's cartoonishly evil for no reason
#* ramblings#i get it i was there back when the salt route happened but. the game doesnt exactly portray him as only irredeemable#dont wanna say he did nothing wrong or contribute to the deltarune equivalent of vriscourse..#he's supposed to be the personification of spam and computer viruses yada yada and i wouldnt want it any other way#but the discussions about him are a bit frustrating specially regarding the weird route#like. he's some insane spiteful manipulative homeless guy with no real agency over his own life anymore#<- again not excusing the shit he does but like u can see why he's desperate#its says a lot about him that he gives you the thorn ring knowing full well what it can do but also#i hate when people act like He gives you the ring so its his fault and hes the one true irredeemable villain of the game#(even in the route where that shit never happens)#like bruh you control the buttons you press maybe just dont buy into the things the mentally unwell guy with revenge fantasies is saying..#it takes away the whole thing abt the weird route being the player's fault where you have the chance to turn back 1 million times#which annoys me a lot#but uhm back to spamton. his thing is that while hes not a good person There is an outcome where he doesnt kill everyone#and sort of warms up to the fun gang i guess..#(I got a bit emotional about kris getting reminded of him bc of the pile of hay Ok Leave me alone.)#he's just. nuanced i guess. due to the aforementioned lack of agency its your actions that decide how he ends up#And i chose that he gets to be around doing whatever the fuck with jevil on kris's pocket#so can twitter please stop showing me spamton discourse. Thank you#if he's so evil then why does he fold the moment he sees tenna kept his invasive species thing huh. take that liberals#<- k i figured it out. hes gay and evil#its scary to say anything about this guy kowing the cynicism fueled mischaracterization demons r looming overhead#all that im gonna say is that id appreciate if people came up with their own takes based on the stuff thats in the game instead of-#-mindlessly agreeing with one or two popular takes. art is a mirror of yourself and whatever you think of it should come mainly from you..
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infiniteorangethethird · 4 months ago
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It's upsetting to see "don't tag as aroace" in aro or ace post like why
I get where you're coming from anon, I can completely understand why it would be upsetting to see smth like that, esp as an aroace person. But at the same time, I get why ppl would be doing this as well, and tbh I can't really blame them.
Thing is, at least in the posts I see that have stuff like this in them, "don't tag as aroace" isn't an attack on aroace ppl or their experiences. Moreso it's about OP being tired that aro and ace are treated as interchangeable terms, and ppl assuming that if someone is aro they MUST be ace as well and vice versa, essentially erasing any experience that is specifically defined by the person being ONLY aro or ONLY ace and not the other. It's OP's way of trying to say "my experience is NOT an aroace one, please stop trying to erase my identity and my experiences by assuming I am aroace just bc I said I was aro/ace".
So in short, and I mean this in the kindest most reassuring way possible, it's not an attack on aroace ppl. You're allowed to relate to it even if you're aroace! But by putting the #aroace tag onto a post that's explicitly not about being aroace, you're signalling to the OP that either you haven't noticed that it's not an aroace post, or you don't care that it's not one, even if that's not your intention with it. It might feel to OP that you, whether intentionally or not, are contributing to the erasure that non-aroace aspec ppl already have to face enough. It makes sense this is smth people might also be upset by, and I think ppl are allowed to have boundaries about it.
Of course there's nothing stopping you from going against their wishes. But it's a boundary that's really not that hard to respect imo, even if you don't completely understand where it's coming from. And if it still feels too upsetting, you can always just not reblog posts like these.
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ilynpilled · 1 year ago
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re “most popular lannister in fandom” discussion lol i love cersei obv but im not particularly shocked at her not being as immensely popular as her brothers in book circles. not even just because of misogyny but the type of character that she is and her “likability”. nonetheless, there is a lot to say and discuss about her and her complexity anyway and id love to see that more over “girlboss delulu queen x100”. idrgaf about what others think but the only thing that kinda bugs me is when i see multiple ppl complain about tyrion specifically lacking the intrigue and discussion that sorrounds jaime sometimes (which is a gripe i entirely understand and resonate with, especially bc we can guess the types of things it could be rooted in; and there is a lot of material to discuss with him ofc) and then never discussing him or really mentioning him themselves either, especially centering him. like ye i write like 800 pages on jaime or whatever and not as much about the other two bc i find him the most compelling personally for whatever reason but lol thats just me. be the change u want to see, especially if u find him the most interesting personally
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rainbowresurrection · 1 year ago
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Kinda got a love/hate relationship with the history of K/S because it's like. Can I please have a queer discussion about this 1960s television show without it being reduced to "shipper discourse". I thought Spock and Kirk were homo long before I knew that their characters spawned a fanfiction counterculture. The bisexual dude who wrote the episode that really kick-started the movement didn't know it was going to coalesce into the fan phenomenon that it did, he was just writing what he knew how to write best: the repression of burning male desire, and two dudes doing homoerotic shit. Can I just talk about the repressed burning male desire please, and the implications of a gay angle to Kirk and Spock's story, without it being referred to as shipper discourse. Can I do that. Does this make sense
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welcometoteyvat · 1 year ago
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if youre satisfied with this amount of rep i'll be happy for you and if you want vastly more from hoyo especially concerning skin tone i will completely agree with you but if you're non latam/african/indigenous american/pacific islander, i'm side eyeing so hard if you start making excuses for genshin's colorist ass
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heavenpierceher · 1 year ago
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repeatedly trying and failing to word some sort of stupid post about how having ocd and ptsd and the general state of being of Having Triggers on this site is like torture while inelegantly dodging current discourse buzzwords like a minefield
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jeans-marrow · 1 year ago
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You know, it took me a long time to accept I'm aro. At first I tried to convince myself I was an ace heteroromantic pal, even though deep down I knew I was just scared of how an aro identity would impact my life.
It took a couple years to accept it, some more time to feel comfortable with it. A little longer to embrace it.
I cried a lot to get to that point. I cried when I read one character I really liked (a mexican boy who died at the end) was aro. I cried the night a friend asked me out. I cried that time I found out the writer of a series I adore was aroace. An actual person, who had created something I connected to, that felt so human and tangible and real.
I've always been louder about my aromantic identity than about being ace. Because it took so much learning and growth, because I hated it and was so afraid of it and now I cannot imagine being any other way. Because with every valentine's and every birthday I remember being a child and knowing the world wouldn't be kind to me for who I was.
Because that child was so terrified of the future it was impossible to even see one.
The world still is not kind to us. I know we've faced so much hostility lately. That it's hard to see a way out of it.
So this is for those who are afraid of who they are or are mad at the world for how we are treated, that feel alone scared and bitter.
I'm feral for you. It doesn't matter in which part of the spectrum you are. I'm so fucking feral for you. Please, never forget that.
We are in this together. We are here and we are loud and we aren't alone. We have each other.
There's still so much to fight for, but you aren't fighting on your own.
Even when it feels that way.
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valictini · 1 year ago
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More thoughts because I saw a post that kind of helped me realise why this situation feels so weird
Honestly I wouldn't be so frustrated with the qsmp rn if they had ACTUALLY reopened the server in a limited matter, like Quackity announced.
Like, why is there so much happening rn when they were supposed to pause everything? Why are admin npcs so active? Are the current admins being paid or volunteering?
The fact that Quackity said nothing about it makes me think it's all volunteer work, again. And I'm not saying that the admins are suffering rn, i want to assume that the admins themselves are at the origin of this, like they don't want to just watch over the ccs, they want to have fun with them and offer them some interactions... but are they paid? And if not, are they really doing this for fun or are they doing this for Quackity's sake?
Do they feel like they need to do this in order for the QSMP not to crash and burn? Are they pressuring themselves with this responsibility? Is this starting a new cycle of people being inadvertently exploited for their passion for the project? I truly hope not. I truly hope they're doing this for fun
Also, as i saw a couple of posts claiming that they're just burning through the backlog of content that they already had... if that's the case, then maybe Quackity should say it clearly? Why do we even have to speculate on this?
I get that we, as the audience, aren't entitled to every single detail of whats going on, but like, when what you do (keep announcing things and letting admin npcs rp) directly contradicts your last public statement (the server reopens but in a limited set up, without admin npcs), I think a clarification is warranted.
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arty395 · 15 days ago
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deltarune chapter 4 spoilers
deltarune fans on their way to take the most extreme stances on a half-comedic moment. deltarune fans on their way to kill each other because a character does a questionable thing.
not even gonna go into my own opinion here, this stuff is so ridiculous. do you remember the roaring knight guys. undyne? dess name drop? no? guys. please. the prophecy? do you guys remember the 'only one ending' thing? no? just toriel? oh okay.
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genuine question but is there any fandom where a character is well written by the majority. im thinking about fandom culture and the spread of frustration when people dont write characters well but. honestly in all the fandoms ive been in there's only like, a Select number of authors who i trust to write Well, let alone write Well AND In Character. character analysis and writing and getting inside characters' heads are all separate skills (all of which are trained by roleplaying fyi can CONFIRM playing pretend with your friends is good for you). there's been more than once where I've disagreed with an interpretation that others agreed with, and then I turned out wrong. or i turned out right. like it doesnt matter WHO is right it just matters that differences in character analysis exist, so even if you DO write well AND write in character, your in character is still going to be someone else's out of character
there's this sort of. vibe. that to play in the sandbox you Need to be able to make a castle, and if you can't make a castle then you shouldn't bother, and it completely dismisses the idea that youre in that sandbox to PLAY in the first place. there's this Weight of disappointing someone if you can't build something that they like, but that forgets that you aren't there to build them a castle. like, be KIND. if you disagree with someone then please make an effort to do so kindly. i dont give a shit about fandom discourse but there is a reason kids get removed from sandboxes if they keep throwing sand in people's eyes. but if they don't like your misshapen sand pile, then youre not obligated to change it. even if you yourself end up hating that same sand pile later- youre not building a legacy. youre playing. and sometimes the result of that play is out of character drivel. theres a reason there are so many authors and so few who i like to consistently read and thats because everyone is Fucking Around in their hobby space. hash tag brag or whatever but i can build castles. ive built several that im v proud of. ive also dug holes in the sand for fun and then tripped on them when trying to get up. I often dug a hole and then got up and fucking- whoops, its a castle now, and i didn't realize i'd made something to be proud of until after the fact. the whole time while creating shit i was Convinced it was bullshit that didn't make sense. and then other times i was Convinced it was bullshit and then i was Right and i can look back and go. huh. ew. but it doesn't matter what the end result was, because i had fun playing in the sandbox
this wasn't meant to turn into a ramble but i have Feelings about bad art and art that's badly perceived and how public perception can screw with your head and how making art youre proud of is fucking. it's so difficult!!! it's hard!! it's really fun, which is why i try to make it, but i promise you it is Okay to not tryhard creativity. even if you CAN, it's okay not to do it all the time. or ever, even. fuck around find out have fun etc
#NOT a discourse post i am musing out loud#there's discourse goign around the dash rn or i wouldnt mention it#but the past few weeks ive seen a lot of “DONT fucking mischaracterize my guy my fuckign god”#which is one of the most frustrating pet peeve there is#but i think a lot too about little baby me#fresh on her writing journey#and how discouraged i would be if someone pointed out the mistakes id made#i made a Lot of fuckups#and i also think about this one fic where one of the characters was INCREDIBLY out of character#me today would not be able to stomach reading it#but baby me was so ENCHANTED#and it introduced to me the concept that you dont always know the reason someone does something#and it made me read even more#and because of that i eventually found Expert Skill level fics#which introduced me to MANY little tricks and fidgets ive tried to implement#there were so so many reviews on that fic that called it shit or complained about the bad characterization#but a decade later i still think about it#there were several very corny mine/craft horror fics i read#which back in the day would be called cringe#and those were what inspired me to write my first horror fic and now im Enchanted by the whole genre#theres a lot of stuff i dont like to read but i like that other people are enjoying themselves#i dont know how to be succinct i hope my point is coming across well#this ties into my thing where fiction is for you first others later#here are my credentials: bb/h fan since before the elections (hi i was the guy who noticed his lack of armour post elections)#and a cross-fandom comment trend of people going 'woa i can see this happening in canon'#im not talking out my ass i genuinely think its more important to have fun than to write accurate characterization#which. is a more 'duh' and clarifying thing than everything else ive written#but ah well c'est la vie#also also just realized this could be interpreted like that- NOT an attack on people who complain about mischaracterization either lmao#i do that too w friends. this is to reassure people who put pressure on themselves to create things Well all the time
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karmicpunishment · 2 years ago
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im so over the resurgence of (following the premiere of heartstopper s2 i've seen) the comparison or degradation of genres of queer media, even (and honestly especially) by in the queer community.
like i don't expect everyone to like heartstopper or shows like it, and you certainly don't need to watch it, but i'm tired of people puttng it down because its "just a teen rom-com" or because its focused on kids or because its not doing anything "particulalry new" or whatever ppl are saying doesn't make it bad or worthless. y
i'm sorry that the current entertainment industry and streaming services and everything like it have convinced you there can only be One Queer Media of one type or at all. thats not true. queer media can and should be as common as non-queer media. you don't need to prove one as better than another or whatever people are trying to do.
a slice-of-life show about two boys in highschool falling in love and their friends doesn't mean there can't also be a show about two lesbians in highschool. it doesn't mean we can have a movie about middle-aged people discovering themselves and their queer identities. it doesn't mean we can't have books about old gay people being happy. it doesn't mean we can't have stories about intersex people or aromantic people or polyam people or anything else.
don't let them convince you our stories need to be limited. don't let them tell you theres a limited demand or supply or quanitity of queer content to be made. don't let them make us hate each other and not the people canceling projects.
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puke-ur-gutz · 7 months ago
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i ♡ going into verbose over-explaining mode in fear of being misinterpreted and then being misinterpreted anyways
#wordvomit#i love being autistic it has not negatively effected my lived experience to any extent#“i thought we were being silly” we are. i am. i am using hyperbole and making jokes. do u think im gonna kill people for [x]#its so frustrating especially as someone who LOVES long-winded rambling discussion. i want to read 6 paragraphs of someones indepth thought#on some random subject they got prompted from#but then when u trust ppl enough to try and do that they look at u like ur insane and give one sentence answers acting like ur trying to#force them to agree with you??#i want you to be doing the same thing im doing back however you do it. come engage with me. i wanna discuss and debate.#“yeah i just didnt think that lol” ok why!! how come! walk me thru ur train of thought!!! lets waffle back and forth pointlessly and#meticulously over random subjects!!#ironic that the passion-rant that started this was how scary it is to engage with any sort of topic online that is discourse-y or#contentious in fear of it spiraling out of control or getting unnecessarily hostile ???#i kept neutering myself so much and trying to speak in such a !! tone while still sharing my honest thoughts bc i could feel smthn going#wrong but couldnt tell what#i may go cry for 6 hours#“yes i love doing community work and moderating group spaces it is my passion and i want to help everyone get along!” lookin ass#ill probably delete this but this site is my one outlet since they nuked the vent app#rip a legend#where else will random middle aged women comfort me
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septembermonologues · 2 years ago
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I understand that some may be concerned about orym letting laudna slip into darkness with delilah and telling keyleth about lillianas connection to imogen (which even then, I understood why he did it) but takes like that annoy me because it discredits how good of a conversation that was!!!! keyleth validating oryms anger is good actually imo!!!!! he's lived through weeks of people telling him that these people, who have taken lives for their selfish agendas, may have a point because of their use of the gods as a scapegoat!!!!! it's so powerful to me that his leader, someone he looks up to so much, is on the same page with him, not making him feel like he has to hide his feelings or battle with the anger inside of him!!!!!! it's natural!!!!!!!!! she's putting trust in him, believing he can lead and fight!!!!!!!!!!! he is not acting against his people, he is standing with them as they are with him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am both scared and EXTREMELY EXCITED about where orym is going to go as a character I can't wait for the YouTube vod to come out on Monday and cry over that convo again
i was just hoping that meeting his family and talking to keyleth about it in full might like... be a moment of reflection or contemplation or realization for that crowd but it seems to have made them worse.
i don't want to say it's not possible that he hasn't or won't make some questionable choices but i've been struggling with people who seem to blame him entirely for delilah possibly having more control on laudna, especially after the talk laudna and imogen had last ep! like i feel like they totally ignored it because it would minimize the role they forced orym into taking.
and i'm glad he said something about liliana now because that's a big fucking thing to just be upfront about given their involvement and the current stakes. i don't think it was to throw her under the bus, i think it was a 'there's no point in lying about or hiding this because you can take one look at the two of them and connect the dots'.
they have both lost people they love. they both have to right to be angry and want justice. idk why they can say that for keyleth but not for orym.
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tea-cat-arts · 9 months ago
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Comments like "Lan Wangji is so much better in the donghua because of how expressive he is," "Lan Wangji is so much more in love with WWX in the donghua! Look at his face," or any other variation of "LWJ feels more if he shows more on his face and that makes those adaptations better" are now grounds for instant blocking from me ✌️. Like, logically I know he's not canonically autistic, but I've gone my whole life getting shit for not showing enough emotions on my face and seeing a fictional character I like with the same struggle get the exact same shit from people just makes me want to punch dry wall
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