#implied unsympathetic virgil

[monkeythefander]

Click below the cut for a redraw of a Virgil angst drawing based on the song “Outrunning Karma” by Alec Benjamin.

Content Warning(s): Virgil angst, implied unsympathetic Dark Sides, injuries/blood

The drawing on the left is a redraw of the drawing on the right. This Virgil angst drawing is based on the song “Outrunning Karma” by Alec Benjamin. Some lyrics from the song are featured in the art.

[tss-storytime-summaries]

23

Expected Rating: Mature

Warnings: drug abuse, transphobia, Virgils not exactly unsympathetic but he's def morally grey and makes questionable decisions. manipulation, toxic relationship, implied sexual content (but not explicit)

Characters: Virgil, Roman, Logan, Patton, (remus a bit but not much)

Romantic Relationships: Roman x Virgil, Logan x Patton

Summary: You have 1 unread notification. Anxiety, It’s O. I need your service again. Targets: Marius and Portia King. According to my sources, they have a winter residence in your area and are staying there until March. I want information on their finances and any improper habits. If you find even a hint of something unlawful or immoral, I want to hear about it. Reply ASAP, O

A wine tasting event to get closer to the pharmaceutical CEO Virgil was hired to investigate accidentally leads him much, much closer than he anticipated, not that Virgil’s complaining. Roman is key to getting the information his employer asked for, and Virgil is willing to do whatever it takes to get it. Even if it means acting like their arrangement means something to him.

“The only thing he's good for is my bank account. He doesn't mean anything more to me than what he can provide. He's useful for getting the information I need, and although our relationship has other benefits, neither of us is deluded into believing it means anything other than two people taking what they want from each other.”

Virgil's never let feelings get in the way of his work, and he doesn't plan to start now. Even with his best friend's disapproval, even if it means breaking Romans' heart.

But things rarely go as he plans.

[radioactive-dazey]

I will be making a comic featuring unsympathetic Virgil, sympathetic Janus, and a young Thomas (aged around 16-20 over the course of the story) who is FINALLY getting consistent therapy after traumatic events that took place within his childhood.

I don't do enough content for character Thomas, honestly. But I'm making this post as a sort of disclaimer; this will be heavily inspired of my own personal experiences in therapy. I will not be 100% accurate in terms of therapy depictions, and even if I tried to be, it would only be realistic from my experience (and hey, that's no fun for me, ya dig?)

This will be dark, talking about ptsd, depression, and the struggles that come with it. That means flashbacks, intrusive thoughts, implied suicidal ideas or similar.

Anyway. I'll post the first page when I can! I have the entire first chapter story boarded.

[pencilpat]

How did the fandom allow 'sympathetic' and 'unsympathetic' tags to even happen. Like I suppose the dark sides do come across as scary in their initial appearances, I know Janus got me good pretending to be Patton but... They were both very clearly hurting and hidden parts of Thomas who had been stifled and locked away for a while. Their methods are flashy but both Remus and Janus believe they're benefiting Thomas.

As a DID system, it reminds me of the system role persecutor-protector - the dark sides believe what they're doing will benefit Thomas, whether Deceit through lies or The Duke through extreme honesty or Anxiety by being too scary to ignore, but the ways that they protect Thomas cause him distress and/or fear. Janus was unveiled to be self-preservation as much as he is dishonesty, implying that Thomas learned to lie early on as part of his survival. And Remus, while we don't know much about him yet, is repressed imagination and religious trauma as much as he is intrusive thoughts. He has ideas and thoughts about Thomas's content that are very valid, as far as the slight babying of his audience and unwillingness to confront the dark parts of himself. They have good traits that are genuinely helpful, but their aggressive ways of attempting to help and express themselves are instead making the "good" parts of Thomas feel like he's a bad person.

Calling them unsympathetic feels so counterproductive to the story and the lessons being taught. You're doing exactly what the light sides do to them by declaring them too scary to look at, and worthy of being repressed and shunned. I feel like this won't ever be understood by the fanbase until the other dark sides get an equivalent of 'Accepting Anxiety'. But that shouldn't have to happen. It's a total lack of sympathy to look at the survival mechanisms and intrusive thoughts of a mentally ill character and declare them 'unsympathetic' as though they're cartoon villains. It may be fiction, but the thoughts and opinions you express about those parts of Thomas are heard and internalized by people like me, who are sick in the same ways as character!Thomas. OCD is a blight on my life, but the portrayal of methods to work through your intrusive thoughts and the reassurances Logan gave to let Thomas know that he is not a bad person for having them? That meant so much to me. Remus means so much to me. Seeing people turn around and do exactly what Patton, Virgil, and Roman do to them, labeling them as "wrong" somehow and pushing them to a place you don't have to see them, it hurts. It has real world effects on how people talk about people like me with 'dark' parts of themself.

Every part of Thomas has the ability to be both bad and good, because Thomas is not perfect. No one is perfect, and someone appearing dark or aggressive in their self expression doesn't always make them unworthy of empathy or understanding. Those parts of Thomas never deserved to be deemed as 'wrong' in the first place, and the story is about unpacking that thinking, slowly and painfully as it may go.

[glacierruler]

Okay, just gonna put this out here!

I'd like to SaSi roleplay with someone!

For comfort reasons, I'll only roleplay with people 18+ (I myself am 19).

Things I'm okay doing but do not have to be in the roleplay

1. Implied sex/sexual content but nothing graphic and nothing that involves my character.

2. Violence and gore are fine.

3. I'm fine with body horror.

4. I'm fine with romantic ships with the side I'm playing. (Again, nothing sexual)

Things I am not fine with:

1. Noncon is going to be a big no for me

2. Child sides/roleplaying as a child side

3. Unsympathetic sides (morally grey actions fine)

Some other things of note:

I'd like to play either Patton or Virgil, preferably Virgil.

This is because of personal hcs, and is completely fine if we scrap it, but I'd like to play as the shortest side.

I'm not always available to message back, but I'll do my best to get back in a timely manner. If you're interested, DM me!

[full-of-roman-angst-trash]

Wounded Even By Happiness Masterpost

This is my fanfic for the amazing TSS Storytime Big Bang Event! Thank you to @ronithesnail for being generous enough to make art for my fanfic! I'll link their art below! And of course, thank you to the amazing organizers/betas @tss-storytime for putting together this amazing event!

Feel Free to read the story either on A03 or here on Tumblr!

Warnings: Toxic Romantic Relationship, Alcoholism, Character Death, Slightly Unsympathetic Roman, Implied Character Death, Suicidal and depressive themes/ideologies, Roman Angst, Remus Angst, Virgil angst, Arguing, Cursing, Toxic Familial Relationship. (Ask to tag)

Link to Ronithesnail's art

Chapter 1

Chapter 2

Chapter 3

Chapter 4

Chapter 5

Chapter 6

Chapter 7

Chapter 8

Chapter 9

Chapter 10

Chapter 11

Epilogue

[sidespromptblog]

Remus, peering over Logan's shoulder: Whatcha doin dorkness?

Logan, without even thinking: Drawing tattoos that I'll never have, becauae of reasons.

Remus: Drawing? You can draw?!

Logan, cringing just a little as he clutches his book close to his chest: Yes... I was told that drawing is an inherently "Roman" thing to do, so I usually only do it in private. I'd really.. really appreciate if you didn't mention it to them... Especially not to Patton.

Remus, now one hundred percent more worried about Logan: No problem dorkness I promise...

Remus: ...

Remus, randomly pointing to one in the book: What's this one based on? I don't think I've ever seen anything like it. It looks absolutely dreadful, in the best way possible~

Logan, perking up quite a bit: Well actually it was based on this old Greek notion of-

[imma-potatoo]

Logan x Janus + confined to bed rest/twisted ankle/hiding an injury

@badthingshappenbingo

Send me a character and a prompt! Please specify ships! No r*mr*m, romantic princexity, U!Logan or U!Janus

Warnings: not telling someone about an injury, infected wounds, wounds in general, implied U!Virgil and U!Patton, not communicating?, ask to tag.

Ships: Loceit.

Promises

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“Logan I’m fine!” Janus hissed through his gritted teeth, smacking his boyfriend’s hand away.

Logan huffed and rolled his eyes, “If you were fine, you wouldn’t be limping in every step and wincing in pain when you put down your foot! Now Janus, please let me see your ankle!” Logan reached his hand back towards Janus, only this time when Janus tried to smack him away; Logan grabbed both of his wrists in a tight grip. “There. Now sit still and let me help you.” Logan wasn’t happy about having to physically restrain his boyfriend, but Janus had been in pain all week and had refused to accept help the normal way. 

Janus hissed once again when Logan pulled up his pant leg, “L-Logan please!” Janus whimpered when his boyfriend pulled his sock down slightly, “I-Its fine. I don’t need your help” Logan pulled the smaller side onto his lap, leading Janus’ hands to his tie in case the rough movements were to be painful. Janus gripped the tie tightly, breaths sharp while Logan rubbed his back in a comforting manner.

“I just want to help you, my love.” Janus breathed slow and steady, Logan chewed on his bottom lip slightly, “I’m sorry, love… this was out of line. You don’t have to tell me.” the blue side spoke softly; regret seeping into his bones as lightly combed through the others sweat covered curls. Logan pulled his pant leg back down and leaned against the wall The duo sat there for a while before Janus nodded against his chest.

“Ok..”

“Ok?” Logan questioned, eyebrow quirked up slightly

“You can check my ankle... Just.. don’t freak out?” Janus looked at him with glassy eyes, his voice was hesitant as Logan rubbed his back up and down.

Logan pecked a small kiss against Janus’ forehead, “I won’t. I promise”

Janus tensed when Logan reached down and softly tugged up his left pant leg. Logan couldn’t help it when his eyes widened.

Small emerald-like scales faded down from Janus’ calf, but that wasn’t the issue; Logan loved Janus’ scales (even if the others had differing ‘opinions’) The problem was that his ankle was purple and swollen, twisted inwards slightly. Logan picked Janus up and moved him closer to him so he could get a better view without leaving his boyfriend’s grasp. Logan reached out and touched the joint, snapping away immediately when Janus hissed and held the tie in white knuckles.

Logan breathed in deep, he promised not to freak out Janus. “Ok. let's get you to the bed.” Logan stood up slowly, grateful that Janus was the shortest of the sides to make carrying him easier

Logan walked slowly, keeping his eyes trained on the side in his arms. Even though the bed was close, it felt like a mile-long walk, and to say that Logan was concerned was an understatement. Janus told him practically everything. So for him to be so adamant that nothing was wrong was strange and unlike his boyfriend. Logan kept his steps calm and even as he met the bed, Pulling Janus away from his chest to lay him on the pillows. Logan sat next to him, the mattress sinking as the blue side looked back down at Janus’ ankle.

It was definitely twisted. And twisted badly. With thick lines of purple, green, and black surrounding the main joint, “Jan- Janus… what happened?” Logan tried not to sound shocked or breathless but was failing spectacularly as he intaked a large gulp of air.

“....” Janus stared at the ceiling.

“Janus please.” Logan grabbed Janus’ hand and stared into his glass like eyes, “was it Roman?” His expression was starting to leak with anger, how could anyone hurt his boyfriend.

Janus shook his head once more.

“Virgil?”

Janus winced slightly, but shook his head.

“Remus?”

Another shake.

“ W-was it Patton?” Logan hated the idea that the fatherly side could injure another side, but he was out of options and no one would touch his beloved.

Janus didn’t react for a minute or two. But then timidly nodded his head, breath shaky.

Logan couldn’t help the furrow in his brows as he squeezed Janus’ hand slightly tighter, without removing his hand he leaned down and pulled the emergency medkit from under the bed. Starting to bandage the ankle, Logan thought for a second or two, things beginning to click into place.

“Did Virgil also help Patton?” Logan grimaced at the nod

“Did they tell you not to tell me?”

Another nod.

“How did they do this to you, love?”

Janus locked hazy eyes with Logan, “They pushed me down the stairs…” Logan traced his tongue over his canine, grounding his rage in the dull pain.

“....”

“Lo? Are you ok?”

“Is anything else injured?”

Janus blinked, “I uh, scraped my shoulder on the railing..” Logan nodded and helped Janus sit up against the headboard, Janus unbuttoned his shirt and let it hang around his elbows.

Logan pushed his glasses up and looked at the long scrape, it was bright red and oozing yellow pus. Red streaks surrounding the wound, because of course the wooden railing would cause an infection. The logical side bit into his tongue harder as he continued to dig in the medkit.

Logan first disinfected it, comforting Janus when he squirmed in pain, then applied infection cream, “I’m going to kill them.” Janus looked at him in shock

“Come on starlight, you don’t mean that.” Janus rubbed the end of Logan’s tie while he pulled out the gauze 

Logan lined the gauze up carefully, “yes I do. No one should ever harm you. You deserve to feel safe.”

Janus fumbled a bit with his speech, a small tinge of blush spreading across his face, “still, you can’t kill them starlight. Thomas needs them..” Silence spread throughout the shared bedroom, “Logan, promise me that you won’t do anything”

Logan sighed, “I promise I won’t lay a finger on them love.”

Janus smiled and Logan could feel the amount of love in that simple action. The smile was wide and grateful as the yellow side leaned forward to kiss the tip of Logan’s nose. Logan chuckled slightly as he held out two small blue pills, to which Janus took happily and fell back onto the pillows with Logan's help.

“I love you Logan.”

“I love you too Janus.” Logan slid off the bed and walked to the other side, snapping his fingers to make the lights shut off as he slid into the bed. His love curling up to his chest.

Janus was right, Logan wouldn’t lay a finger on Virgil and Patton... 

But he would tell Thomas about them.

[aidensm8]

So headcanon proposal: Roman has Cleithrophobia

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[anonymous-gremlin]

Virgil is just walking down the hallway as suddenly green smoke comes around him, trapping him in place.

Remus.

"You got a new family now, he Virgie. You gotta share. Roman or Logan, choose."

"What? What choose? Leave me and my family alone!"

"Choose, Virgie. Choose or else you dear daddy dearest will meet his tragic end. Ooh, maybe something with spiders."

Virgil eventually chooses, confused as to why but knowing what Remus is capable off, he is worried.

His worry only grows bigger as the side in question's room is closed shut the next morning and he can hear the side scream on the other side of the door.

[thatgenderlessentity]

Janus- *about virgil* What did you do to him?

Patton- I have made him anew.

Patton- I saw his mind, so ensnared in rage, and grief, and pain, and I brought him to the light. Isn't that right, my son?

Janus- Virgil, you have to fight it!

Virgil- My place is with the Light sides, Janus. I don't want to leave.

Source: She-ra

[sanders-sides-uncorrect-quotes]

Janus: if Virgil goes on 1 more rant about Instagram cringe normies stealing his original memes, I will use his own power to take his breathing privileges away

[quietrainfan]

Want some angst to go along with the fluff from the previous post? Deceit always makes Virgil's chocolate animal and leaves it by his room door just in case he might want it. He knows Virgil will likely ignore it like he does every time but he still wants him to know he still cares. And maybe, just maybe he'll eat it this time. Eventually, Deceit would've walked past the plate too many days with it sitting there untouched, and he'd sigh and pick it up. It tears him apart each time he has to throw it away, a treat he made specifically to show affection, and Deceit was just wasting it. The guilt killed him every time without fail but there wasn't anything he could do. Oh, well.

Maybe next year...

[scenecipriano]

A True Love Never Dies Pt.4

Relationships: Roceit, past Anxceit, parental Locet, Parental Royality, Parental Intruality

TW: Mentions of abuse, mentions of breakup, mentioned unsympathetic Virgil, implied toxic anxceit, funeral mention, tw gun mention, tw gun violence mention. 

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Janus sighs as he looks down at a picture of him and Virgil, he traces his finger over his ex’s face. They had been so happy the day it was taken, it was the day after Janus got his first piece published in the New York Times. He shakes his head and buries the picture to the bottom of his suitcase, he shouldn’t be focusing on the past, not when he just had the most amazing day with his childhood best friend. 

Roman had filled him in on everything, telling him how everyone’s been doing since he left, Janus had to admit that he was shocked when he found out about their friend Thomas’ new boyfriend, from what Roman said this one seemed like a keeper. 

Janus learned that Remus had won the blue ribbon last year for growing the largest pumpkin, he learned that his dad and Patton had been meeting just about every day for lunch, and that Emile and Remy finally tied the knot. 

Janus was sad when Roman told him that he himself hasn’t done much, besides helping Thomas down at the theater and drama club at their old school. Janus thought for sure Roman would have left from here and went after his dream of going on Broadway, but life has a funny way of acting up. 

“Janny? Is it okay if I come in?” 

Janus sighs and calls for his father to step inside, he knew that tone, it was time for Janus to explain his sudden flight home. 

“Do I have to tell you the full story or can I just choose the sweet and simple one?” Janus asks when Logan steps inside, the old preacher smiles sadly at his son. 

“I’d like to know the full story… It’s how I can tell Patton whether or not he needs to grab his gun.” 

Janus snorts in amusement and turns to look at his dad. 

“Alright… well… you remember Virgil, right?” 

“Ah, yes… The purple haired degenerate that made you miss your mother’s funeral for a wedding, regrettably I do remember him.” 

Janus rolls his eyes and flops down on his bed, he couldn’t help but laugh when his father flops down next to him. 

“Yeah… well um… we broke up… It… I-it was horrible, daddy. H-He was so angry with me and I don’t know w-why… h-he yelled and threw things at me. I-I was so scared… then… then he told me we were over, told me to get out. S-So I did…” 

Janus wanted to tell his father about the abuse, the verbal and the physical, but he didn’t want to make him worry, not when it was Janus’ fault for happening. 

He tenses up when his father pulls him into a tight embrace, Janus relaxes and buries his face against the older man’s chest. 

“And I’m glad you did, Janny… I rather you be home then to stay in an unsafe environment… Also Patton will be glad to know that he can use his favorite gun on this excuse my French, shithead.” 

Janus lets out a wet laugh, it was always funny when his father would let a curse slip out every now and then. 

“M-Me too… I just… wish I hadn’t wasted eight years on him…” 

‘Wasted eight years on nothing…’ 

“So, Ro-Bro when's the weddin? Do I get to be your best man? I ought to be cause we’ve been together since birth!” 

Roman groans as he flicks a pea at Remus, he snorts when his brother catches the vegetable in his mouth. 

“Now, Roman no wasting food. Besides, I’m curious too kiddo! When are you and Jan gonna go out on a date? You did say he was single now.” Patton chimes in as he cuts into his steak, he could help but smirk at his son’s flustered noises. 

“We haven’t even been on a date! Now, don’t you two start this again, you did this when me and Jan were fifteen! Besides, he obviously doesn’t like me back.” 

Roman looks back down at his plate of food, surely if Janus had felt the same as him he would have told him a long time ago. Janus was always so outspoken, whatever was on his mind he let people know and he always expressed his feelings so passionately. 

“Bullshit! It’s so obvious that he loves you that even a feral cat could see it!” 

Roman looks up and sees Patton smack his brother on the arm, Patton clears his throat and looks at Roman flashing his son a smile. 

“You never know, Ro. Ya know though, your brother and I were thinking about throwing Janny a welcome home party in the barn!” 

“Yep! And you’re the lucky schmuck that’s gonna keep him occupied while we round the whole town up and get everything in place!” 

Roman felt his heart speed up, no no he could do this. 

“Of course… I don’t mind having that job.” 

He was going to be alone with...Janus Leone… the love of his life…

‘I’m so screwed...’

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[aidensm8]

Is it love you fear? Or the rejection itself?

(Virgil angst delivered, anons and @brenpop345 )

[anonymous-gremlin]

U!Patton when a light side did something he doesn't approve of instead of bansishing them to the dark side, sends them to the subconscious/the void where no side has ever returned from.