#loops rants

[loopsisloops]

I really hope none of this comes off as fake deep.

Do I just suck at life?

Aren’t we tired? Aren’t we tired of this way of living. And hey, maybe I am wrong. Maybe I do need to suck it up, just do the thing, and grow up. I should stop stalling and move on. But I can’t help but think of how robotic all of this feels.

I don’t like living but I love being human. I find so much joy in human connection. Two people making each other laugh. The smile on someone’s face after you give them a compliment. Finding things you have in common with a total stranger.

I have nothing more to say except perhaps fuck capitalism and how inhumane it makes everything feel.

[4sunnyday4]

So in @askoverkill Loop was the one to give Dawn and Dusk their nicknames after those two mocked them for calling the Director stardust.

My first thought after reading this was "Loop certified nicknamer" and then I spent way too long making this:

But it also got me thinking, how many Siffrins did Loop nickname before giving up and started calling them all dead meat? Not only giving up on any hope of escaping the loops or convincing the Director to stop with this villain madness, but also of every Siffrin mattering, because the one thing capable of change here became monotone, a different actor for the same role.

At least it's easier to think of it like that if they stop the nicknaming, stop noticing the difference between each Siffrin, stop helping them.

But in the quiet nights when Loop looks up to the red sky (couldn't even let me have that, could you Stardust?) will they think back on how every Siffrin questioned them on their choice of a nickname?

Beloved for the Siffrin who had loving words of forgotten parents embedded in his cloak.

Black hole for the Siffrin who was a kleptomaniac and always had in his pockets trinkets stolen from their party.

Clover for the Siffrin that always did things in groups of fours instead of three.

Sunny for the Siffrin that kept a real smile until the bitter end.

Stardust...

...Who cares? They're not the first one to give up—that's you—and they certainly won't be the last, you should instead use this time to rest, you certainly need it.

Nighty night, Loop.

[mrheymister]

Just played the mission where Dutch feeds Bronte to an alligator and I'm having thoughts.

Yall know how Arthur is constantly railing John for being an idiot? Yall notice how Arthur refuses to speak up, he is steadfastly silent he is literally the audience, while John is like "wtf you just fed a very important mob boss to a gator how does this help us?"

Bc Arthur is thinking the same thing. He is appalled. They all are. But John is the one who speaks up. He voices the thoughts that everyone is thinking. They all know Dutch is out of line here, but John is the only one to call him on it.

So how is it the wolf-eaten idiot is the only one with any sense? Idk he took a year off, and gained perspective? He knows he's insulated bc he's the 'golden boy"?

John has real stakes now. He took his son for granted until he was kidnapped, and the threat of losing him became real. Arthur doesn't know it yet, but he's already seeking absolution vicariously via John. They all want out, but they're looking to Dutch to lead them out, and John is the only one starting to see that Dutch is only leading them to their execution.

But what can he do? He'd lean on Arthur, but arthur ain't a leader. Arthur can think on his feet but he can't really think beyond that, he's always relied on Dutch and Hosea, and Hosea is outnumbered.

Anyways John and Hosea have tried and tried to warn the gang off Dutch's path but Arthur knows nothing else but to back Dutch. And with Arthur standing by Dutch till his last the rest of em really have no other option but to follow. Arthur is literally the #3 most important voice. Anyways I'm drunk this has been a post.

[pendwelling]

!!! Wow! So you have a favourite story, too?

[2isted-chocol8-art]

time buddies hurt/comfort of any kind??? mayhaps?? going both ways even?? tbh i’m constantly craving time buds content in general and your art style is SO good i will take anything and everything you put out there

Something is brewing...

(This ask was the perfect excuse to finally draw an idea I've had for a while! It's a bit long to post it at once, though- so I'll eventually post the next part! And thank you for the kind words too <3)

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[ohno-the-sun]

Sol

[yj-polycule]

I'll never understand the fanon interpretation of Tim where he is a loner or anti-social.

Tim Drake? The same Tim Drake that makes friends even when he's at his lowest mentally? The Tim Drake that has connections absolutely everywhere and probably one of the most codependent relationships with his respective superhero team?

The Tim Drake that managed to befriend Huntress and bring her more into the Gotham vigilante scene? The same Tim Drake that still has contact with Jean-Paul despite not liking the dude in the slightest?

The same Tim Drake that was the first person (besides Barbara) to trust Cass and the same person to befriend and trust Steph before everyone else? The same Tim Drake that has changed school five times (that we know of in comics) and had managed to make a solid friend group at every single school?

No, Tim is not a loner or anti-social. He is the most socially active of the Batfamily in terms of friendships outside of just being a vigilante. He has more named civilian friends that most of the other combined, and is known to be well spoken and easy to get along with.

So no, Tim is not anti-social. Tim is not a loner. This motherfucker cannot got 10 minutes without making a friend or an ally whenever he's doing a mission. Literally when he pushed away everyone else in his life when he was at his lowest he still came out of the whole ordeal with 2 new best friends. He has never once been a loner and I genuinely would love to know where the hell Fanon came up with that?

[blueskittlesart]

*sigh* thoughts on Nintendo's botw/totk timeline shenanigans and tomfoolery?

tbh. my maybe-unpopular opinion is that the timeline is only important when a game's place on the timeline seriously informs the way their narrative progresses. the problem is that before botw we almost NEVER got games where it didn't matter. it matters for skyward sword because it's the beginning, and it matters for tp/ww/alttp (and their respective sequels) because the choices the hero of time makes explicitly inform the narrative of those games in one way or another. it matters which timeline we're in for those games because these cycles we're seeing are close enough to oot's cycle that they're still feeling the effects of his choices. botw, however, takes place at minimum 10 thousand years after oot, so its place on the timeline actually functionally means nothing. botw is completely divorced from the hero of time & his story, so what he does is a nonissue in the context of botw link and zelda's story. thus, which timeline botw happens in is a nonissue. honestly I kind of liked the idea that it happened in all of them. i think there's a cool idea of inevitability that can be played with there. but the point is that the timeline exists to enhance and fill in the lore of games that need it, and botw/totk don't really need it because the devs finally realized they could make a game without the hero of time in it.

[edwardian-girl-next-door]

tumblr is driving me up the WALL with flagging things that are literally not inappropriate in the least. in no way at all. what in the warmed over ai-regulated hell is this

[verityasdragon]

I reached season 8 in my rewatch and the episode 'Dear Uncle Abdul' was so bleak I had to go back to season 2 improve my mood and then had the urge to sketch Klinger in one of his most iconic looks

[rainybyday]

Idea! This is completely unrelated to the time travel ideas I have floating around. This is a time loop one based on ObKk but it's all from Obito’s viewpoint. 

It's a time loop that circles ten times in which Obito is looping through periods he lived in his past, but his actions will change the course of the timeline and he has to live it till the very end with rules he will find throughout his loops. 

He can’t pick what time he lands, only that he must deal with the hand he is dealt

He can’t kill himself nor harm himself to the point of death (not even to remove the seal over his heart)

Telling someone will end up with one of two things: that person will die soon or something tragic will happen

The loops themselves don’t center around Kakashi for it being a obkk fic idea, but how Obito sees the world as he goes through chances and other paths he could have taken and what kind of person he is. It’s a “what would you do” kind of situation.

I want him to go through the loops, go through them, and try to make the world he desperately dreams of with his own methods and struggles. In some loops, he will try to finish the eye of the moon plan and in others, he doesn’t. Sometimes Rin lives and sometimes she doesn’t. Things happen, life happens, and no matter how many loops and chances and different choices Obito will make he has to face the consequences of those actions, and have to live through that loop no matter what. 

Whether or not he truly loves that loop or hates it, he will live through it all. 

I guess what I want is for him to feel the push and pull of what his dream world would look like, what it can be but what the price it will be to pay for such a world. 

Now for loops.

First Loop - Og timeline

This is during the fourth war, where the events of the anime/manga happen until you are faced with the battle of Obito and Kakashi. However, when both Obito and Kakashi clash for the ‘hand through the chest’ kill they both hit their targets. So that means that yes Obito’s heart is punched through but so is Kakashi’s, hence, Kakashi will die here. 

Kakashi is dead with blood on his hands, just like Obito has his blood on his own hand. 

He’s dead. 

Then he uses Kamui to leave back into the battlefield. 

Second Loop - Switch Roles

This is when Obito wakes up from being crushed by the cave in. He has yet to give the eye to Kakashi and he can still see Rin and Kakashi alive. Maybe it was because he dreamt of this moment before, maybe because he still saw the blood on Kakashi’s hands, or perhaps he understood what was happening to him. Either way, whether he gives Kakashi his eye or not, he will emphasize that Kakshi must protect Rin with his life. 

Just like how Obito did the same thing for him. 

Of course, Kakashi agrees. 

And this sets in stone for Kakashi to die in Rin’s place because he took those very words to heart. 

Unfortunately, the Sanbi is still inside of Rin with a faulty seal. 

And that is how the Three-Tail attack of Konaha began. 

Third Loop - Birth of a Boy

This one took a turn because after living two full lives (by a shinobi’s standards) he was looped again. Something that he didn’t expect at all after the second loop. 

Nor did he expect to be born as a child only a couple months old. 

This was a life he could truly start over, one that was blanked and sealed with no one to be suspicious of his actions nor about his personality or he’s ability. He was born anew in this loop and Obito will take this chance with willing arms. 

So he grew up again, in a village that did not give love, with best friends he could hold on to, and with a clan that approved of him. 

He was living in a new world, a world, he realized, was truly new to him. One that he can shape to what he desires the most. But in turn, he did not realize he was drifting too far, too fast. He was not only advancing faster than any other student but he was also challenging Kakashi far to much with his quick advancement, to focus to his future that he didn’t realizes he was leaving Rin behind. 

Didn’t realize anything was wrong when they were in the academy, didn’t know what was wrong when they were made a team once again, and didn’t know what was wrong even with Minato trying to glue back the team together when Kakashi and Rin were the only ones holding themselves up from Obito’s far of gaze. 

And that cost him. 

It cost him Kakashi’s life in that cave. It cost him Rin to drift away completely, and thus, Rin’s life when Sanbi was forced into her body. 

He lost them both in a life he was so readily and willing to make his own and yet it was taken from him once again.

(That's how he found out about the second rule.)

(That is how he finally understood Rin in her sacrifice and Kakashi in his Anbu years.)

But then it gets worse, so worse. Obito did not have enough time in this whirlwind of his new life to realize he is not the only evil in this world, and that war will always bring out the worst in people whether you expect it or not. 

That is how he found out Orochimaru was experimenting with the dead body of the Last Hatake. 

Fourth Loop - Twin Eyes

This time he is watching Rin die again in front of his eyes. Watching as her body falls back from Kakashi’s hand. Watch as blood seeps through the ground once more. 

The nightmare begins again. 

Some part of Obito wanted to leave. Didn’t want to do this part of his life anymore, didn’t want to see his teammates die over and over and just fulfill the plan that was already set for him in the first place. After all, he never did finish his original goal in the first place. 

But instead of leaving Kakashi this time around, he takes him with him. 

(He has seen them die too many times, can’t stand the sight of red on silver or purple anymore.)

Kakashi will follow Obito, care for him, and speak for him. Yet Kakashi is only loyal to Obito, he still loves Konoha and will not do anything against them unless Obito asks, he does not trust Zetsu in any way shape or form, and is weary of the rest of the Akatsuki at best. He will follow Obito but will not go anything beyond that. 

Maybe that's why Zetsu gorged out his eye and left Kakashi for dead, knowing that he was an obstacle to their plan. A plan, Obito will soon find out, was just a sweet masqueraded lie. 

Fifth Loop - Nine Tails

Obito woke up with the cries of a baby in his arms, warped in chains. 

He was back in the Nine-Tails attack, back when he helped kill two of his most important people. 

(Just like Rin. Just like Kakashi)

Will he kill them again? Will he go through with it? He’s an enemy, he is already an enemy of Konoha no matter what he does now. No matter what happens here, he can’t do anything to change the actions that he has taken. 

But, Obito thinks as he remembers the seal in his chest, perhaps here is another way. 

Another way was soon put into motion. The “other way” was having his face revealed to Kakashi, having to stop the stupid Hatake from protecting him from Minato, having to make sure his chest will be pierced even if the stupid fault safety of unable to die by his intention or hands is keeping him from truly getting hit. 

And yet, when Minato’s attack finally landed to aim at his chest he did not anticipate the next scene. 

In other words, he did not anticipate seeing another one of his precious people killed by another person he trusted through the heart once again. 

(He wasn’t fast enough to pull Kakashi back, wasn’t fast enough to set Naruto away from the fight.)

(“Your late!”)

That night ended with a baby and a boy laying still on the cold floor.

[Anyways I'll post loops six to ten later.] 

Extra thoughts:

Wanted to make Orochimaru experiment on Rin as well on loop 3 but thought that was illogical in the sense that one, Rin had died to the seal and the escape of Sanbi so she would not be strong enough to gather interest, and two, she doesn’t have the Sanbi. 

Don’t know if I want Rin to live on the second loop, I mean she both can and can’t based on how Minato is her sensei but also she has a faulty seal can will unravel when she is close enough to Konoha. Its up in the air, thats why i didn’t make her fate known in that loop. 

If you haven’t realized, Rin is a constant in the first few loops here, I need her to be brought up again and again in front of Obito, but to also lose her in more ways then just Kakashi killing, because people can lose those we care and love for in different ways then death. 

Also, the second loop originally was going to be in the running scene of the cave in, I wanted Obito to see Kakashi trip again and just, leave him there, pretending he never turned around to look at him in the first place, wanted him to think in his twisted time traveled mind that if Kakashi dies here then he wouldn’t have to worry about him again. After all, he was the one to kill him in the first timeline, what was one more? He killed him just a few minutes ago, killing him again shouldn’t damage him that much.

Should it?

Well, it did. 

It did because all he saw was red, the sound of bones crunching and the ripping of flesh being torn into bloody bits as the only thing left of Kakashi is red blood under boulders the size of houses. 

It should have been an uneventful time loop with Rin by his side. 

But in this life, Rin is the one to take Kakashi’s role, she is the one who mourns a ghost. 

But then I thought that Kakashi dying by Obito’s wish might be more impactful since Rin will live to know it was her that Kakashi died for.  

The fourth loop is where the eye of the moon plan actually is completed, go figure

Fifth loop! I always planned on Naruto dying, just not Kakashi until I wrote the thing.

[that-autistic-lesbian]

The time loop confuses me a bit. (Please keep in mind that I haven’t watched the show in about 3 years so if any of this is explained in the show/manga please tell me kindly as I have forgotten most of it)

Do years continue like normal? Like if the first time loop year was in 2012 and it turned to 2013 and then Saiki turned back time on the world in April, is it still 2013 or is it now 2012 again?

If it stays 2013, then wouldn’t people get suspicious when they break out of the time loop and they look back at yearbooks and they entered high school in 2012 and then graduated in like 2018? Especially in America where the year you graduate is like. A huge deal. Like, does the Class of 2013-2017 just not exist anymore bc they were stuck in the time loop?

While I do think it’d be easier to make people think the school year of 2012-2013 was just one extremely long year rather than the years of 2012-2017 being all one year, wouldn’t the future kids of people question why they have so many “Summer break of 2013” and “Christmas of 2012” photos that detail them doing different things that aren’t possible to do in One break?

I know this is supposed to be a comedy and I shouldn’t think too hard about it (as I’m sure the author didn’t) but I’m just extremely curious how people think of it in the future.

Is Saiki just going to have to constantly brainwash the world into thinking that whole time loop period was normal? That sounds exhausting.

(Slightly edited to make some sentences make more sense)

[madbard]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: In Stars And Time (Video Game) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Loop/Siffrin (In Stars and Time), Loop & Siffrin (In Stars And Time), Loop & The Party (In Stars and Time) Characters: Loop (In Stars And Time), Siffrin (In Stars And Time) Additional Tags: Implied/Referenced Character Death, Canon Temporary Character Death, it's Loop y'all what can I say? they're alive by the end of the story, Implied/Referenced Self-Harm, Self-Love, as always feel free to interpret the sifloop however you want, Introspection, Angst with a Happy Ending, Cuddling & Snuggling Summary:

"Sometimes, lying awake at night, you would lift your hand and run it down the side of your face, imagining that it was the caress of another person, trying not to wake you up. You would wrap your arms around your chest. You would interlace your fingers and squeeze. You felt a certain shame in this, that there was no one else who would hold you or touch you. But no matter how long and lonely the nights became, your own hands were always there to soothe you."

Musings about self-love.

[notnamedjohn]

IN STARS AND TIME SPOILERS

ACT 6/TWO HATS

God I love how much Loop tries to hate Siffrin but deep down really just can’t bring themselves to commit to it. Like they start off as being intentionally annoying because “look this idiot got stuck in a timeloop! How embarrassing! He wants to stay with his friends but can’t bring themselves to actually talk about it! COULDN’T BE ME” and they empathize with Sif because yeah no shit they went through it too. They actually want them to break free of the loops because what they are going through is horrible and so so painful that it hurts to watch.

They give actual genuine advice (hidden behind alot of teehee’s) and talk through Sif’s ideas and theories. They are always there waiting for Sif to come back and try to work out the next thing they should be doing. And, in my opinion, I think they enjoy it. They went through their own timeloop hell and they finally have someone who understands and can talk to about it. Sure that person is you who made the same blinding mistake and is making it worse and you can’t help to make fun of them because its like the you from your most embarrassing moment that lives rent free in your head is right in front of you and you get to be like “hey man what were you thinking? That was really stupid what you did oh my god.”

But I can only imagine how that “haha ur dumb but im here to talk” energy gives way to actual spite and jealousy as Siffrin gets farther than Loop. They killed the king, Loop never could. They find out more about wish craft, Loop never got that opportunity. They can read their native language and speak it again, Loop is still stuck with headaches and fleeting memories. And worst of all? They won. They get to live their lives with their family. They made it through hell and won. The King is defeated,their family is with them promising to stay together and keep adventuring together seeing all these wonderful places and things. And Loop never will. Loop lost their family. They lost them because of their wish. A wish they couldn’t handle. Their family THEIR family is gone forever. The only one who can remember them is stuck with copies that see them as a stranger. And the only way to get them back? To even HOPE to have a chance at being by their side? To kill the better version of you. To murder the one who the Universe loves more. To kill the person who stole your happy ending and family. The person who struggled the same as you. Who came to you whenever they needed help, because they trusted you. The person who came so SO close to failing just like you, but you saved them because you know how much it hurts. The person who you wanted to succeed. The person who you can’t kill no matter how badly you want to.

If you lose to Loop in their fight. They won’t kill Siffrin. They can’t. Not after all of the pain the two of them went through. Not after they have a chance of being happy. Loop just can’t do it because they feel that they don’t deserve it. For all their talk of Siffrin needing to work things out with their family, Loop can’t do the same. They can’t look them in the eye and tell them they are Siffrin, they tried so so hard but couldn’t do it and left them all behind. In their eyes, why should they get a happy ending? They doomed an entire reality, their family and left them behind. They can’t take Siff’s place because they know Siff deserves it. Because they won. They made it. They earned their happy ending.

And im so FUCKING NORMAL ABOUT THAT.

[the-bitter-ocean]

Preemptively blocking that new confessions blog now bc the last time someone ran one for isat it was just used as a tool to be antiblack about mirabelle and euphrasie. In general was also just unkind and petty and breeds unnecessary drama and hostility to people minding their own business and having fun so womp womp have fun or whatever but yeah. Not my circus not my clowns that sort of thing

[sockatoothewafflebird]

OUTER WILDS FANDOM THIS IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION

do. the hearthians. purr. or at least do they have an equivalent. like, since theyre lizard/amphibian people would they retain some of the ability to make lizard/amphibian noises? or would it disappear after they're not babies anymore, like their need to be moist when theyre tadpoles?

asking for. science. yeah. *hides my fluff behind me totally secretly* i'm totally NOT a sucker for cute Creature behavior no not at all ahaha

edit: actually let me make this a poll so i get an actual kind of visual