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demigod-shenanigans · 5 months ago
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So how do we feel about the fact that Jupiter likely spent most of Jason’s life measuring him against his older sister who died a hero’s death and never considering him worthy in the same way he does his daughter?
Most gods separate their Greek and Roman children, but their father knew Thalia both as Zeus and as Jupiter. Hell, he even parented her a little bit as Jupiter.
Jason could never have been enough in his father’s eyes because his life belonged to Juno, but he also wasn’t enough because he wasn’t Thalia.
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agnes-draws · 1 year ago
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damn these tall buff men with big hazel eyes who make us do things we don’t want to do 🙄
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bayetea · 19 days ago
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I love your pjo and hoo takes, got any potentially unpopular opinions or hot takes?
not really but I don't think piper listens to chappell roan
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pjo-tvs-version · 1 year ago
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Fanfic no. 3 !! Wohooo!!! I never thought it would happen. I am sticking with Annabeth POVs currently as I enjoy writing them. This one's based on @liesmultixxx's suggestion of the day Percy goes missing. Title from Love Story by yet again Taylor Swift. Enjoy!
Beggin' you, "Please don't go, " 
I stand outside by the gates of my school, excited. It was a lovely Saturday afternoon and Sally had insisted on having lunch with her. The crowd around me was buzzing with enthusiasm too. Today was the last day of school. Everyone was planning their summer vacations. I smiled knowing that I had already planned how to spend the entirety of the few days I got. Training at camp, finishing the plans for the renovation of Olympus, helping out with the architecture of the new cabins, teaching the new campers a few tricks, chatting with Sally and of course, spending time with my Seaweed Brain.
I was told by a particular green eyed boy that I often get lost in my thoughts. As much as I hate accepting that, it's the truth I realise now. As I’m happily going over my to do list for this summer, I hear a car’s horn, startling me. It’s Paul’s Prius with Percy in the driver’s seat, wearing his orange camp shirt. “Did I scare you, Wise Girl?” he says mockingly. There is a mischievous twinkle in his eyes and it feels wonderful to observe it without a Greek apocalypse taking place.
I dump my books in the back seat, taking my place beside Percy as we set off to his New York apartment. A lunch by Sally’s and then we will be off to Camp Half Blood. I was eager to go to camp as I hadn't seen it in a while. I am looking forward to seeing the new campers, even the ones from minor gods. Yesterday Chiron had even Iris messaged me about my requirement for building the new cabins. Percy was most probably picking on my thoughts (that was something I realised that he is pretty good at doing since we started dating.)
 “Well someone looks happy today despite her pessimistic attitude”, said Percy. “Let me remind you that you have an English research paper to write a History project to work on and not to mention solving questions from Trigonometry” I replied.  Percy let out a groan and said “Well you take the win on this one but please tell me you are helping me out with trigonometry.” I laughed. It was so funny to see the Savior of Olympus complaining about maths homework. I retorted “Only if you give me an extra blue cookie.” Percy looked aghast and I was just enjoying the banter. I knew I hit the right bargain.
 “You drive a hard deal Annabeth. Can’t we just stick with something nicer like I give you an extra goodnight kiss and you help out with the soul destructive maths?” “Hmm let me think about it” I pause dramatically and pose to be in deep thought and then add “nope.” “Please Miss Owl Head. I am begging you” Percy adds with the cute baby seal eyes. Oh no! I stared at them and it was a mistake. The eyes always got me. “Okay fine the extra goodnight kiss it is in exchange for the maths homework. But I am warning you beforehand, I’ll just teach you the method, you are solving them yourself. Also the good night kiss better be good.” I say with a sigh. He grins and I can’t help but adore his raven coloured hair. The rest of our ride passed with more banters about school, camp and dates. I enjoyed every minute of it.
I waited as Percy parked the Prius. Sally is already standing at the door. I could smell the delicious lasagna bubbling in the oven. As always Sally hugged me. She smelt of cookies and honey suckles. It always filled me with warmth whenever I was with Sally. She was like the parent figure I never had. She always treated me so warmly, like her own family. It always managed to make me feel cosy and warmed my heart every time.
“Come in quick! The lasagna is almost done, my dear. The blue cookies are in the oven right now. They will be ready soon too. "Sally said as she beckoned her inside the Jackson apartment. Percy eyes always glazed with amazement whenever a Sally Jackson styled blue cookie was in a 1 mile radius from him. Percy helped Sally set up the dining table as I went to his room to freshen up and change. 
When I returned to the table, a table was ready for three. Paul I had been told by Percy was in school, teaching. Sally and Percy were seated already and were waiting for me. A dish full of mouth watering Lasagna, Sally’s classic seven layer dip with tortilla chips and a jug of lemonade were kept, ready to be eaten.
“Dig in '' Sally said and that is exactly what we did. Gods, it was delicious. We talked as we ate. Sally inquired about my school, Percy sprouting out facts about marine life and me going over my plans for the summer. There was utter chaos as the three of us ate and chatted and it was soo much fun. When our meal finished, I along with Percy helped clear up the table. It sounds weird but I had fun doing the dishes. 
When everything was done we sat on the couch with the blue cookies. Percy’s eyes rolled up in ecstasy at the sight of them and I was pretty sure that my face was pretty much the same. As I savored my last chocochip bite, I glanced at the watch. It was almost 4. I stand with Percy in tow. We had to leave for camp now.
Sally hugs us goodbye, packing a few cookies for our trip to camp too. We hail a taxi to Long Island. 
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 Percy and I stood on Half Blood Hill, enjoying the view. Camp Half Blood was buzzing with excitement everywhere. Many of the Apollo kids were doing target practice. The satyrs were playing a sweet tune on their pipes to grow the strawberries. The sun was dipping and the view was breathtaking. “Race you down the hill. Whoever loses doesn't get the last cookie” I shout before sprinting down the hill. “Hey, that's not fair! You went first. But you're on Chase. Anything for my blue cookies.” Percy retorts and he races against me. 
As always it ended as a tie so the cookie will be divided into half. Chiron was there to greet us. After exchanging a few hugs, I went to meet my siblings in Cabin 6. Malcolm welcomed me back warmly. I make my way towards my bed to start settling in. Unpacking took way more time than I expected. “Hey Annabeth, time for dinner. We are even having a campfire tonight.” Malcolm calls out as I stack my last book on the shelf. Perfect timing. “Coming Malcolm," I reply.
After a filling dinner everyone gathers around the fire for a song night. I sit beside Percy, a little at the back of the crowd. We sing, laugh and dance till our throats are sore from shouting and our knees are worn out from the dancing. The crowd dispersed albeit reluctantly since we were having so much fun. Me and Percy walk, hand in hand towards our cabins.
The walk was purposely slow since we were savouring the solitude. As we reach the entrance of his cabin we both halt. A drop of water fell on my nose then another on my shoulder and then on my hand. Before I knew it, I was standing under a mini raincloud. Percy was getting drenched in the rain too but he was smiling, that classic troublemaker smile and his sea green eyes were full of amusement. “May I know exactly why Perseus Jackson is it raining only above us? Considering that you are a Son of Poseidon, it puts you in a quite suspicious position. There is no scien-” I say before I am cut off. 
Percy’s lips are on mine as kisses me soft and slow. As he pulls away grasping for breath, I remember that he kept his promise about the goodnight kiss. Something must have shown on my face as I leapt to the realization because Percy’s smile widened. “So this is your special goodnight kiss I see. Where both of us are drenched in rainwater” I say. “I always wanted to kiss you in the rain. Might be romantic you know. But I kept my promise. So math homework tomorrow?” he replies. He really is a Seaweed Brain. He looked so cute with his hair plastered across his face and pearl like water droplets on his eyes that I could’nt help but kiss him again.
I will begrudgingly admit that it was actually kind of romantic but there is no way I am saying it out loud. We pull away and I say with a sigh “Okay, maths homework lesson in the morning in the strawberry fields. Okay?” “Thank you so much Wise Girl. Good night.” he says with a yawn. “Goodnight Seaweed Brain” I reply, feeling sleepy too. I make my way towards my cabin with my heart content. Tomorrow will be a fresh new day and I can finally enjoy myself after so many taxing years of war.
I wake up to a sunny morning. I freshen up and grab my supplies. Chiron had requested me to meet him first thing in the morning as he wanted to discuss a few new cabin designs for me. As I make my way to the Big House, I am interrupted by Clarisse. “Have you seen your kelp-filled headed boyfriend? He was supposed to spar with me to a death battle.” Clarrise asks. I laughed. So Percy and Clarisse are going toi spar. Guess I’m going to watch a good show. “I’ll go check on him. He’s most probably snoring in his cabin.” I reply. Clarisse nods and goes to her cabin. 
I knock on the doors of cabin 3. No response. I knock again but still not a single reaction. That was weird so I just pushed against the doors to find an empty bunk bed. Where was Percy? He most probably must be playing one of his pranks on me. I step out and call out his name. Still no answer. I find Chiron waiting at the steps of the Big House. I’m sure he would have some idea. “Have you seen Percy Chiron?” I ask. There is a look of concern in his eyes. “Annabeth, dear I thought Percy was somewhere with you though it is unlikely that he would be awake so early in the morning.” Chiron responds. “What no! I just got up and was on my way to your office when Clarrise asked me if I knew where Percy was. I said no and went to his cabin to find him but he was’nt there.” I say, panic seizing me. “Annabeth, you are not the first camper who inquired about Percy. Are you sure you have no idea where Percy is or is it some joke?” he asked me.
“I swear on the Styx Chiron that I have no idea where Percy is.” I say as my dread increases in my heart. “Well this is serious then. I am going to announce this immediately” Chiron said.
Every camper was searching every possible place. I was getting terrified with every passing second. Percy pulled off pranks but they were light hearted. When I find him, I’m seriously going to threaten him about this. He has no right to give me such panic attacks. After a while of searchin everyone gathered in the Amphitheater. “We’ve looked everywhere, only the strawberry fields are left for us to-” Connor says before I cut him off.
The strawberry field, of course he must be there. Maybe he wanted to surprise me by getting up early and being ready to study. I race against the wind. As I reach the entrance of the field I shout out “I’m here Seaweed Brain. Time for maths.” Still no reply. He was’nt there. My heart was thudding against my chest and I fell to my knees. Where was Percy? The rest of camp arrives to find me there in this miserable condition. Malcom approaches and kneels beside me. “Don’t worry Annabeth, we'll find him. He must be somewhere, I’m sure of it.”
I burst into tears not being able to control them. Percy was gone? Overnight? He kissed me goodnight yesterday and now he is gone? There was no trace of him. He wasn't in camp and I realise with a foreboding fear that this isn't a prank. Chiron removes the crowd as Malcolm hugs me fiercely. “He’s gone, he’s gone” I say with shuddering breaths. “I was supposed to teach him maths, go on a date with him tomorrow and…”. “Annabeth, it's okay. He will be fine” Malcolm tries to reassure me. “You don’t understand. Where is he? Is he alive or…….” I didn't complete the sentence. That’s not possible. I was going to search for him until I found him. A part of my brain nags me- what if I don’t. I push that thought away. I stand up with shaky legs and reach for my cell phone and dial Sally. After a few rings she picks up, “Hey Annabeth how are you and Percy? Any issue?”. “Sally is- is Percy at home?” I say even as my heart slows with dread. “No Annabeth! Why would he be here?”. I can’t reply. I lost my voice and I didn't know how to respond. What should I tell her. Sally must have sensed the silence was not a good one because there was concern in her next words “Annabeth honey Annabeth are you okay? Is Percy okay…” If only I knew that my happy, planned summer was going to be my worst possible one….
So how was this? Positive criticism is appreciated. Thank you @liesmultixxx for the lovely suggestion. Hope you liked it!!!
You can read it here on AO3 too
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solibrie · 2 months ago
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if HOO were written differently i think that leo/reyna would have had feet to stand on. and to be clear i do not particularly enjoy leo/reyna as a ship but i do maintain the thought that it COULD have been compelling if RR approached their characters differently
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yaboirezzy · 2 years ago
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Other people's headcanon for the Royal Woods/Great Lakes folks: Everyone is so melodramatic, every single female is shipped with Lincoln, everyone hates the louds (except/especially Lincoln) because they're 'evil' and 'a pariah/bad luck', heinous incest shit, wait a second the louds have friends?!?!
My headcanon:
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seachick · 1 year ago
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piper mclean is a sofia coppola girlie i will not explain send tweet
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lagomorphpaw · 5 months ago
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wow! lagomorphpaw.tungle.net drew po3! next up: fork reportedly found in kitchen!
design notes under the cut
all three designs were inspired by this old drawing i did of them. :o)
hollyleaf: general "wolf" shape and silhouette; her coat was colorpicked from my leafpool design's fur and then toned down. red undereye as a nod to the last hollyleaf design i did a few years ago, and colorpicked from my squirrelflight design. blue-toned shadows in honor of wayne macloughlin's hollyleaf design.
lionblaze: "firey" tufts of fur around his head. shares leafpool and jayfeather's stripe pattern. covered in scars post-TLH and his anime cat bangs thinned out with age. his design actually hasn't changed much from the last time i drew him other than some spruced-up stripe patterns
jayfeather: grew his hair out post-holly's death + began wearing a holly leaf in her honor. brown nose (colorpicked from leafpool) + tones once again in honor of wayne macloughlin's art. also inspired from moonkitti's "i spoil" sprite + his official warriors wiki sprite.
hollyleaf's design i picture as how she looked in omen of the stars pre-death (so i guess the design she would keep in starclan) while lionblaze's and jayfeather's are intended as more modern-era wc designs
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punkeropercyjackson · 11 days ago
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Percy switching hair looks often throught the books to show 'the sea does not like to be restrained'.Baby dreads in tlt,wicks in ttc,twists ft.a faded from gray to white streak in tlo,afro in son due to amnesia preventing remembering perfered styles but muscle memoring back to dreads pre-climax,sea based material diy'd beads in moa and by nineteen,so much hair growing out time locs are needed and dying yellow, aqua,purple and pink streaks in them,white streak and black base still visible
Thalia suffering heat damage at a young age because Beryl was a racist ass white mom to her biracial kids.Her ressurectection also restored her hair's health in it's divinity and she spends her central book sporting bantu knots but in her next apperance in soh,she's upgraded to a frohawk and post-tlh,she updated it to include a sick ass electric blue dye job as sentimental symbolism for thunder and lightning being together once more,forevermore and apart never again
Nico introduced with an overgrown afro even Bianca didn't know how to take care of.He had to push it out of his eyes a lot but it became a helpful tool to hide away when the world fell off but Percy picked him back up on his feet during the botl-tlo interlude year they spent fixing things so they and eventually the rest of the Big Three Kids too started having wash days all together and it's makes him look like a very sweet cat.Eighteen year old Nico however chooses shoulder length dreads and a back of the head bun
Jason with natural dirty blonde textured hair.He often gets asked if it's his natural color and it goes from an understandable question to him to a button leaving him ever so slightly tweaking thanks to how overpressed it got.Juno wasn't going to let her champion walk around with janky haircuts so he had a flat top until time passed and he convinced a back from the dead Beckendorf to give him a lightning bolt fade as they chatted on how similar they are
Hazel following her heart whenever the opportunity for hair struck.Star-shaped afropuffs son era,cornrows moa protection that turned out for naught,hoh twists Percy made her impressively varied in shapes pink beads in celebration for her Tartarus survival(not really.they were crafted in terror she wouldn't make it out to cope and self-convince it wouldn't be her end.as it turned out,it was her second new beginnings or if you asked Hazel herself,her charming third chance)and butterfly locs entered her needs as soon as she found out about them and combined them as the final touch with purple dip tips
Black Big Three Kids and their hair journeys
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spidermansballs · 8 months ago
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can u imagine jason pre tlh already come to terms with his sexuality, hes fine with it, but hera happens and it reverses ALL of that, and he never really gets that back
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cr4zy-cycl0n3 · 7 months ago
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Yo! I'm doing a Heroes of Olympus rewrite!
I'm not a huge fan of how some scenes go in canon and how the characters esp the gods are handled in Hoo, and after reading one too many rewrite/AU fics, I've decided fuck it, imma make my own.
I'm changing quite a few things, like:
- making Piper's memories not be tampered with and as a result be way closer to Leo (credit to Heroes of Juno by @queenjunothegreat for this idea!)
- MOTHERLY HERA/JUNO WHO PSEUDO-ADOPTS JASON FTW also parental Lupa but that'll be more apparent in a Jason prequel/sequel(depends on how I wanna format it) I’ll write after TLH is done
- slowburn valgrace instead of comphet jiper
- Leo and Piper QPR(+Jason when Piper stops being his #1 opp). Jasipereo ftw babyyy
- the whole series is just gonna have a good deal of focus on the Lost Trio. I'm not gonna shaft anyone ofc but my favorite punching bags characters are just gonna get extra love :3
- Jason's gonna be considerably more feral cuz CMON MAN WAS RAISED BY WOLVES(this is more prominent in the later books cuz in TLH he was alr feral, going at 2 giants with his BARE ASS HANDS)
- Jason has more bite cuz DAMMIT HE DESERVES TO BE ANGRY/BITTER AND CLAP BACK. HIS LIFE IS SHIT, LET MY BRO BE MAD
- more exploration into Jason's character cuz man was shafted so hard :(
- exploration of characters' powers in general, def buffing the Big Three kids to be as strong as Percy cuz holy cow he's OP. I love Percy and his OP-ness, but the other Big Three kids should be just as OP
- Zeus is the God of Justice, which we don't see much of in PJO's characterization of him, but Jupiter is Roman and hence is much more strict in the RRverse, so consequently I think his domain of law and order is more central to Jupiter than his greek counterpart, so I'd like to explore Jason having powers related to that and being an absolute powerhouse when it comes to debates and politics despite hating them
- characterizing the Gods differently from canon as I'm a Hellenist and writing them as they are in canon makes me like. Kinda uncomfortable. I will be using mythic literalism as that is what PJO/HoO's based on and I'm not rewriting the very foundations of the series, so they will still have committed the things they did in mythology, though I'm keeping them largely unaltered from the Og greek mythos and unsanitized as this isn't intended for a young audience like PJO is. Their behavior won't be exactly like their depictions in myths nor how they actually are irl, it's a mix of both(Ex: Zeus has still done heinous shit so he won't be as great as he is irl, but he isn't supremely petty and bitchy like he is in PJO.). This uhh. Will probably mean that PJO events would go differently which would influence HOO but if I think about that too much I'm gonna wanna do a PJO rewrite too and akbhdhd so just imagine that everything that goes on in PJO goes as canon (for now at least) for some reason or another.
- Octavian and Jason are were best friends cuz I said so. This change is inspired by To Storm and Fire(a Heroes of Olympus rewrite) which I am in LOVE with. The antagonistic side characters(like Drew and Octavian) got very little development or character exploration so l'm definitely giving them that in my rewrite!
- The Seven feel and are much closer together
- delving more into the sevens' trauma pre-camp, might also do a one/two shot for each of them. Jason’s a given cuz I’m writing a whole ass fic or even series dedicated to his past, Leo and Piper definitely, probably also Hazel and Annabeth, not sure on Percy and Frank cuz for Frank I’m def going into the trauma that comes with growing up in an Asian household but don’t have too many ideas on how to execute that, and for Percy I don’t have all that many ideas in general outside of the little we know in PJO(I used to think we knew a lot but honestly, we really don’t? Like we know Poseidon left, Sally had to work a lot, Gabe sucks, and he got kicked out of 6 six schools in 6 years and the reasons, but we don’t have any concrete details. There might be more in HoH, I haven’t read it yet so lmk if there is). Open to any ideas for this!
- camp is. Tense. It's been only a few months since the war, grief is still fresh, and Jason being tall, blonde, and blue-eyed with a scar ain't helping 💀 some people think Silena was a hero, others think she was a villain, some people sympathized with Luke, others despised him, there's a lotta differing views.
I have loads more ideas that I won't get into here cuz the post'll get way too long, but l'd love to hear what you guys think! What scenes/characterizations should I change? What topics would you like to see handled differently? What should I add? I'm open to any and all suggestions!
Currently outlining TLH, will start posting it on my ao3 once I have the first chapter and 4-5 buffer ones written so I'll prolly start posting it in a month or two? Idk, depends on my workload irl and if I get hit by writer’s block. Maybe less, maybe more, who knows. I'll be writing a bunch of shorter stories for specific moments, time between books, and namely a prequel/tih sequel focusing on Jason's past and who he was before Hera wiped his memory. Open to any suggestions for additional works too. Feel free to drop any questions and suggestions bout the rewrite here or in my ask box!
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demigod-shenanigans · 3 months ago
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I’m actually really bummed that Rick decided that Jason and Hazel were friends pre-tlh and then either abandoned the concept or just forgot about it, because exploring who Jason used to be vs the person being at CHB turned him into through the eyes of someone who was his friend before could have been super interesting (and sure, Reyna fills that role to an extent, but she’s not part of the Seven and only gets POVs in the last book where they don’t spend a lot of time together, so exploring it via her character is a lot harder and doesn’t happen as much as I wish it did). It also would have made Jason and Hazel’s falling out over Nico much more personal.
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bayetea · 5 months ago
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what if I drew transfem jason with reyna's hairstyle. what then. think of the Implications
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bluerazberrysoda · 8 days ago
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propaganda i'm not falling for:
shel
TLH being boring to read
SoN being better than TLH
jason and leo being just bros
jason and percy being just bros
piper and annabeth being just hgs
caleo
hazel not swearing
naturally straight haired nico
frank having bodybuilder muscles
the plot importance of will pre-BoO
solangelo > fierrochase
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nicoathogwarts · 6 months ago
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I’ll always be a little peeved that Jason never got any of his memories back while Percy did.
Especially since he and Percy are meant to be two sides of the same coin.
You know what would’ve been interesting? If Percy never got his memories back but Jason did. We already know Percy’s backstory, we as the audience didn’t need to know it again and it would create an incredible dynamic between Percy and everyone in CHB but especially Annabeth.
Or I dunno, he could’ve made a Camp Jupiter Confidential with stories from Reyna, Hazel, Jason and anyone else pre TLH.
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boymeetsluve · 14 days ago
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Something I’ve noticed on pjotok is that people make the claim that people are misogynistic for not recognizing the big three girls and I feel like that’s mostly false. When people make post/edits of the Big Three Kids it’s usually Nico, Percy, and Jason and people take issue with the lack of attention to Hazel, Thalia, and Bianca. And first, Respectfully, Bianca is a plot device. She’s development for the Story At Large so we, the readers, realize that the fun demigod adventures are over and shit is getting very real very fast. The tone from TLT/SoM compared to TTC is very different (with the usual buffoonery still involved because this is Rick and he’ll die before he drops The Bit) — Bianca is a big reason why that tone shift happened. Her death was JARRING to read in third grade. She’s also Nico development to kick off his arc of anger, grief, and isolation. She’s a plot device and that’s FINE. She’s a CHARACTER she’s MEANT to mean something to the story even if it isn’t too much on her own. The fact that she meant little in and of herself beyond the scope of what she means for the story is the point! It’s tragic that this 11 year old girl was screwed over so effectively in like a third of a book. Again, it upped the stakes and gave the universe weight.
Thalia…I get a little more to a degree. A bit. Similar to Bianca we don’t know her too well I feel? We get her in TTC, TLO, and bits in TLH and BoO. I think she’s an interesting character all things considered but it isn’t crazy that people don’t include her because she’s very literally off Doing Shit. You can’t really put her in fic because she’s away from everyone unless there’s a major battle happening. Comparing her to some of the other main characters doesn’t feel right especially to the Seven+Reyna because they all have POVs that got us closer to them compared to Thalia who, again, kinda vanishes after TTC. I would be open to that critique towards Rick though. I think her joining the Hunters was a cool idea but she’s so..removed it sucks sometimes.
Now Hazel…yea that’s misogynior and I will not be arguing with anyone. Unlike the other two she’s very prominent on-screen in the series (equal to Jason pre….The Incident) so there’s not excuse of not getting her character or her honesty being away so long you forget she exists until referenced. And look I hate the demigod powerscaling because it’s all dumb and biases but Hazel single handedly put Gaia back to sleep at 13 while SINKING AN ISLAND. And by 13/14 (Rick’s ages confuse me) she is also learning MAGIC. AND she’s rose to the top of the ranks after what? Less than a year at New Rome? My girl is OP as hell and you all pay her DUST! All she’s good for is being a Soft Girl who Loves Nico the Mostest. And she’s so sweet don’t get me wrong I love my niece but Lester straight up recognizes her an incredibly intimidating, commanding force when she goes into battle with Arion. She’s stubborn and headstrong and protective and sometimes easily embarrassed. AND most importantly, she actually has a relationship with all three big three boys . She adores Nico, sees Percy as a brother, and even learned to open up to and bond with Jason! I give a pass to fics (canon-verse) because she’s doing praetor things BUT art, edits, etc? Oh I hate y’all BAD.
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