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GUYS SOMEONE SAID THIS WAS LIKE WILLS PAINTING WITH MIKE PROTECTING THEM…
it makes sense due to the camera angle and nature of the shot, it looks like they’re looking at a fucking dragon or something


now i can’t un-see it
#stranger things#byler#mike wheeler#will byers#byler endgame#stranger things season 5#stranger things thoughts#stranger things theory
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So... I lied about getting a full fix-it to This → Part 1. Y'all get parts focusing on different characters for now as Hop traverses his guilt trip. I won't say it gets worse before it gets better but... kinda in places? I promise it's a happy ending though!!
What do you want from me I'm stressed and depressed and I like making my blorbos suffer (a.k.a projecting my trauma instead of doing the healthy shit my shrink tells me to)
You've been warned... But I do hope you like it.
So here we have Part 2 (Pride and Prejudices: Joyce Edition)
He goes to Joyce about it first. Thinks about her gentle herding of the trio that has become the Hopper-Byers brood. Thinks about how she put everything he was feeling about Mike and El and their giggling and the fucking door into words that kept him from looking like an imbecile (if he'd have ever used them instead of fucking it up 'winging it'). Thinks about the way her voice stays soft and kind of quiet even when she's spitting in his face about listening to her (and every time she's been right) and how that's translated to talking down government goons and wrangling the army of children that seems to get bigger each time they have to fight interdimensional terrors. So he goes to Joyce about what Murray said, the noise Steve made with That Look in his eyes and his bandages peeking out from under a shirt that looks like one of the Henleys he's been missing since coming 'back from the dead' and they dug out his clothes from storage. (El wouldn't let her throw anything out, not until she was ready to say goodbye. Thank whatever god[s] there may be she never needed to)
He doesn't expect Joyce to make a face like he suggested inviting Owens to family dinner. He doesn't expect the scoff and eye roll as her shoulders tense and her hands flex at her sides like she's about to let loose her (honestly really attractive) righteous fury. About the Harrington kid.
Maybe he should have asked when the kids weren't home. Before El quietly told them the bullying wasn't as bad as it was in California but some people still made fun of how she spoke and how all of her friends were boys (and just as quietly asked they not do anything. Asked that they let her and The Party handle it until they couldn't). Before Will came home sulking about something idiotic Mike said or did or something the kid missed (though lately the latest Wheeler mistake is followed by bashful mention of the Emerson kid doing something specifically to make Will feel better in the moment). Before Jonathan came home from 'job hunting' or 'volunteering at the school's relief center' reeking of weed and his long-haired friend in tow (less than usual but still enough to make Joyce feel guilty for missing it for so long, for making the boy grow up so fast that he spends his days out of his mind instead of the weekend bender like when they were kids). Before The Party had come by with what homework the school was still giving out and talking over each other about all the latest small-town gossip a teenager can get their hands on (Eddie's name has been cleared but he's still laid up at the hospital. Susan Mayfield has been noticeably absent according to every nosy housewife in Hawkins considering her daughter is in a coma. The Hagans, Carvers, Perkins and a handful of other 'well to do' families have skipped town taking most of the sports population with them. Steve has been letting people displaced by the damage crash at the Harrington mansion. Steve has kept up hours at Family Video somehow and is a regular volunteer at the various relief centers in town. Steve has been giving all of them rides and may have told Dustin he's thinking of trading in the Beemer for a bigger vehicle for all the kids and people he chauffeurs about. Steve keeps a room empty and waiting for when Max wakes up before her mother makes an appearance. Steve. Steve. Steve.)
He doesn't expect the way she spits his name like she's talking about Dick and Margaret under the bleachers over a smoke before the yard teacher catches them. The rant about bullies and broken cameras and trashed kitchens and dead monsters in her fridge. The crack in her voice when she crosses her arms to stop their shaking as she lays sin upon sin at this boy's feet.
And maybe before that would have been enough.
He doesn't expect the stone in his stomach or the burning in his chest as he looks the woman he loves in the eye and says "So I guess we should tell Nancy to break up with Jonathan before he pulls a Lonnie, huh?" It's a low blow. He knows from the hurt anger on her face and on the purse of her lips. He knows that's why he said it. "That kid is lucky to be alive let alone walking and have we ever even thanked him for keeping the fucking kids alive each time they pull their dumb shit when the world goes to hell? Does that sound like anything his folks would have ever done for us? Hell for their own fucking kid they practically signed over to ME of all people?"
He's shaking now too and Joyce has her hands fluttering between them like she wants to reach out. To touch, comfort. Pull him close and tell him to take a breath.
"He called me 'His Hop', Joyce" He barely has enough breath on him to squeeze the words past his tight throat. "Called me His Hop and watched Ellie and the kids when I just couldn't and you were at work. I don't think I've seen his folks in town since the mall was opened and all the donors had that big party. Don't think I've spoken to them since '83 and they made me the kid's guardian when they aren't around cause they didn't want to fly down for a government sized concussion."
By now he knows El and Will are peeking around the corner, their eyes wide and worried. Jonathan has his door cracked and Angus (is that the hippie's name? He can't remember) is whispering something about heavy auras. Joyce is staring somewhere off in the distance, wringing her hands and biting her lips like she's facing an interdimensional portal shaped problem.
"The kids are planning to have one of their games in a few days." Her voice is brittle in a way he's not used to anymore. Not since she pulled her youngest out of hell and faced down a demon clawing through her walls. "He always drives them over and- and disappears until they need to head home. I can make sure he stays for dinner. Like the rest of the kids. I know Claudia has been having him over so I- I can get some recipes from her that he likes."
Something in his shoulders shakes loose and he reaches out to pull her practically shaking from into his chest.
"I don't know what to say to him Hop. He's not Mike and he's not like either of my boys. In my head he's just always been..."
"Dick and Margaret's brat." He sighs out and rests his cheek on the top of her head as she nods and presses herself in closer.
He's aware of eyes on them. Confused and worried and judgemental and he'll pay that piper next. These kids taught him how to be a dad again once, they can do it again, right?
Part 3
Part 4.1
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okay, during a countless rewatch of st2, i decided to look up the scientist that Owens brings up while talking to Nancy and Jonathan in the lab…

he brings up George Sarton,, saying “men of science have made abundant mistakes of every kind”.. he uses this in his argument/justification for Barb’s death, Will being taken, etc.
but! i decided to look this guy up, as i know the Duffers and other writers tend to slip references and clues in wherever they can.. and LOOK WHAT I FOUND
pay very close attention to Sarton’s birthday and death date…
we all know that March 22nd is Will’s bday,, however there is still a lot of discourse about whether the Duffers “forgot” Will’s birthday, due to the events that transpire in st4 episode 2 (at rink-o-mania, etc.)..
however there is a theory about Will’s bday.. the Duffers did Not forget. i know that there are things that slip through the cracks with media like this,, but this is a Big Thing to miss.
there is a great run-down/analysis of birthdaygate here: https://youtu.be/6HNfoOLpUj8?si=8naUiTkx9pVyTOBz
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in this video, LesbianMindflayer shows that there have been other dates cited as Will’s birthday,, for example: this official post which came out in the era of st1

now, there is some discourse over whether this “fake/wrong” birthday was a mistake, which they changed/solidified going forward with st2,
however,,, this August 28th birthday for Will is very very close to George Sarton’s birthday…

let’s dig deeper people!!! what do you think!??
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thoughts on stevie and thigh riding?? he would be sooooo sweet and degrading lorddddd i need him
i need him in EMBARRASSING ways
"Want your cock, Stevie," you whined. "P-Please."
He chuckled, nodding at you with a playful pout as he held onto your hips. He dragged you back and forth, helping you ride his strong thigh and watching as you whimpered above him. "Yeah, know you do, honey. Bet you want it real bad. But not yet."
You let out a groan as your pussy clenched around nothing. The emptiness inside of you gave you an itch that you couldn't scratch, not without his help.
He slapped your tit, earning a yelp from you when he pinched your nipple tightly. "No whining. Behave or you won't get to cum at all."
"N-No, please. I want it," you begged. You moved faster, gyrating your hips with more forceful actions.
"Look at you. So needy and pathetic for my cock, you'll do anything I say, right? Perfect 'lil slut."
His goading words made you throb, your cunt growing more sensitive and making your pleasure skyrocket. Every rut of your hips against the rough material of his jeans got you closer to your release, and your cries grew louder.
Steve smiled up at you, watching your eyes clench shut as your hands squeezed his shoulders. He could feel you pulsating, squeezing, and he grabbed you, forcing you to stop. You mewled, mourning the loss of your orgasm as your eyes opened. His wicked smile told you all you needed to know; you weren't going to get your way for a while.
"Steve-"
"Ah, ah," he tutted, pressing his index finger to your lips. "No complaints, baby. You know who's in charge here. If you wanna cum, you're gonna do exactly as I say."
concepts ; concepts (ii)
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It's interesting that despite Billy becoming popular with the ladies very quickly and his macho demeanor ensuring him a place of "belonging" amongst the young men of Hawkins, he makes it very clear to Max that he hates the town with a passion.
#billy hargrove#stranger things#st2 rewatch#stranger things thoughts#max mayfield#st2#stranger things 2
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So thinking about Billy living and he’s got damage from the Mind Flayer and scars and all the jazz but he also has damage to his throat. So he’s quiet.
He gets out of the hospital and he’s soft spoken, not necessarily calmer, but he can’t yell or raise his voice without consequence.
And he throws himself into the bullshit in Hawkins and fights with hands that don’t have much feeling anymore but he doesnt hate it.quite the opposite he finds a little support network that annoys him and he picks on them and sometimes they fight.
But it’s okay. And he’s quiet.
until Max gets hurt and then he screams until his throat bleeds.
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Oh, man. I just had to get that thought in my head. Dustin would love Steve Irwin, and he would be totally devastated when learning he died. It would be a code red situation for him.
#stranger things#dustin henderson#stranger things thoughts#rueleigh's thoughts#rueleigh's random thoughts
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can u do stranger things billy x japanese reader where she and billy are partners for a project. They go to his house and Neil is there and says something mean to the reader. But she does not react to his insults. Billy tells him to stop. Neil get up starts to yell and goes towards Billy. The reader noticed billy flinched, she steps in front of him and tells Neil to back off. She turns around and is about to ask billy if he is ok when Neil goes to hit the reader, not knowing she has martial arts training and does boxing . ( at this point Max and Susan have enter the house is about to see everything go down) She stops him, filps him her body, pins him to the ground and looks him dead in the eye and say " if I find out you have hurt Billy, Max or Susan in anyway . Me and you will go a couple of rounds. Do we have an understanding. Mr. Hargrove? " she says in a deep threatening voice. He is now scared of her.
Basically I would like a fanfic where Neil gets his butt kick by the reader
Feel free to add or change anything
Hey! I absolutely love how detailed this is, every time I open my inbox I read it again and it's like a whole mini fic every time. Unfortunately, I don't feel like I'm qualified to write this well. I'm going to pass on this one, but thank you so much! <3
#mmm this man#love him so much#laurel speaks#billy my beloved#billy hargove x reader#billy hargrove imagine#billy hargrove x reader#billy hargrove x you#billy hargrove#billy hargove imagine#billy#st#stranger things#stranger things thoughts
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Thinking about Steve Harrington's family life, specifically his parents, and as much as I want to know more, I actually find it really cool from a literary standpoint that Steve's parents are so absent from his life, we don't even know their NAMES. We don't know what they even LOOK LIKE. Off the top of my head, I think they've been mentioned a total of like, 4 times, all by Steve himself. That's actually so smart though, I keep thinking about it. We know they travel a lot, their marriage isn't the best given Mrs. Harrington doesn't trust Mr. Harrington to go on business trips by himself, leaving Steve home alone for who knows how long while he's still in highschool. We also know that Mr. Harrington is a "Grade-A a**hole" according to Steve himself, and that he's basically cut him off once he graduated highschool and turned 18. And it. And I really like it. They're so absent the PLOT can't even touch them. I also really like if from a fandom standpoint. As someone who reads fanfic constantly, its very entertaining to see everyone's different takes on his parents. Their names, what they look like, how they actually act as parent, everything. I just think it's fun. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
#sorry for rambling#im probably just spewing nonsense here rn#i just had to share with someone#elliemae tries to write coherently#stranger things#steve harrington#steve harrington's parents#stranger things thoughts
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So I was watching season 4 AGAIN and I realized something: it's clear that the first suspect after Chrissy's death was Eddie because they found her in his trailer, that's kind of logic considering Eddie's reputation. But then on episode 6 Vecna takes the other boy from the basketball team in the lake. And the only witnesses are Jason and the other guy from the team. Why is Jason not a suspect? I mean, think about it: her girlfriend (because the police was aware they were a couple) was murdered on other guy's house, it could have been a crime of passion, Jason was clearly on an adrenaline high from the previous night game and clearly intoxicated after that, he saw his girlfriend with another guy and went violent out of jealousy. Besides, no one has actually seen Eddie since that night, and the police didn't see Eddie in the lake either, so for all they care he could have been murdered by Jason and his team and they are blaming Eddie, I mean maybe the other basketball guy was going to out them so Jason silencied him. I mean at least is a good reason as to why they have been unable to find Eddie yet.
But we know the new chief and the rest of the team are not particularly brilliant, so no wonder.
#stranger things#st s4#stranger things s4#eddie munson#jason carver#chrissy cunningham#stranger things thoughts
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writing my silly little fic and again im struck with how much opportunities they missed by pretending the s2 stancy breakup wasn't messy, specifically for Nancy's guilt about barb and forcing herself to grow up too fast
like s1 Nancy spends one night being a stupid teenager goofing off at her boyfriend's party and staying over to get spicy while Barb goes home. then she later realizes Barb disappeared and died that one night she was letting go and having fun. this is widely recognized trauma for her and informs a lot if not most of her actions through the rest of the show
in season 2 she's feeling the weight of it more around the first year anniversary. steve trys to help by taking her to a party to forget for a little while and 'be stupid teenagers' for a night. a perfectly set up parallel already
the way the show wants it to go, we get the bullshit argument, they fight, allegedly break up at some point, and nancy sleeps with Jonathan. later steve tells her to go with him and we're supposed to read it as Steve stepping back so jancy can happen. we're supposed to be seeing this as a happy ending.
but with the material we're given this would have been the perfect place for an emotional repeat of season 1 for nancy. she and steve go to the party and pretend to be stupid teenagers for the night. but oh no! nancy lets lose too much, lets herself relax and drink and dance, and the next day her boyfriend's pissed. hes saying she said things she never remembered saying and its hurt him and she doesn't know what to do. and kids around school are talking about them breaking up at the party, and that fits with Steve's anger she saw, so they must've broken up right? it sucks, even if she wasn't in love with him, that'd be the worst way to break up with someone (especially if she's confusing platonic and romantic feelings or convincing herself it has to be romantic when she really just values him as a friend)
and then she doesn't have time to work it out, she needs to go with Jonathan to avenge barbs 'disappearance' to give her family closure. She's got a lot of conspiracy shit to do and its stressful. so when murray starts going off about how she's not really in love with steve, how she actually likes Jonathan and he seems to like her back. they finished a lot of the hard work with the conspiracy stuff, she can let her guard down and have a quick good night.
then the next day is chaos. demodogs and labs and will being possessed. It a rough fucking day. Steve tells her to go with Jonathan while they get the mindflayer out of Will, civil like they're on good terms so she does (and thank god she did because that was rough and they needed all the help they could get)
and then everything's fine again, with the upside down. and it looks like she handled things better this time, was about to relax occasionally and still made it through.
except apparently she and steve didn't break up. he thought it was just a few fights, that they put their shit aside for the apocalypse and now they can work things out.
and it could ruin nancy. a year later and she's still hasn't learned her lesson, that letting her guard down hurts the people she cares about, that relaxing and having fun makes her lose people. its her fault for the messy breakup with Steve and its her fault that barb is gone. she's the reason she's lost friends close to her, 2 for 2, and now she only has Jonathan left (and what do you know, season 3 has her conflict with Jonathan and in season 4 she's not let anyone else get truly close to her and fred still dies)
you see what i mean?? by having conflict magical resolve itself in the background we loose so much powerful, painful character drama for her. our girl who thinks she has to keep the world around her up solely on her shoulders because she can't handle the loss of her best friend in season 1. Nancy who desperately wants to be normal and have people she loves but keeps losing them, through factors both in and out of her control, but feels like everything has to be her fault just because some things were.
and to be fair, that story is still present in the show. its there and definitely compelling, but it could've been even more so. i feel like if maybe there was less 'nancy has to be a strong independent girlboss' in there (abd it's definitely there, they want to make a point of making her a Strong Woman Character so bad) and she was allowed to have mistakes acknowledged by the narrative, this is the direction it would've gone. She could've been an excellent example of well written women who are strong and awesome through their own right instead of the narrative trying to make us like her
#nancy wheeler#stranger things meta#stranger things thoughts#platonic stancy#stranger things#platonic stancy because while this could definitely be used in a jancy breakup then stancy fic#my personal theory is that she thinks she should like him romantically because he sees her like that but she actually likes him as a friend#and the bullshit scene was just the worst way for her to say it because she waited so long and refused to when she was sober#also didn't tag anti-nancy because i don't think it is really? like its anti-canon-depiction-because-i-think-they-did-her-dirty#also this is kinda nancy pov so its not like she's actually at fault for everything but in her mind she blames herself anyway#so yea#the fic is my Steve Henderson AU btw for ppl who've never seen me before#stancys not the focus (its steve pov with the Hendersons being main characters) but i want to do a serious platonic stancy workthrough in i#so this is just my headcanons (technically canon compliant based on what we see on screen but not following the narrative direction y'know)#devon's steve henderson au#steve henderson au rambles#hoping praying to god this doesn't make people angry but if it does feel free to block me i don't mind and i really dont want to argue#no disc horse for me just silly little thoughts and headcanons thanks for understanding#devon thinks sometimes
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i hate when people say byler in season 5 would be forced and there is no good way to go about showing mikes feelings for will. because like... theres so many ways to do this
murray (obviously) and this could even just be a knowing glance from him looking at them.
a long stare from mike (similar to wills in s4).
literally just a confession but with voiceovers and flsahbacks.
camera making a point to focus on them more throughout season 5.
increasing their physical proximity in the season (e.g. they get physically pushed together, grouped together more etc.)
subtitles saying "tender, emotional music playing" or even "emotional, romantic music playing" in a scene with clear romantic undertones.
music with lyrics that resonate with byler (i have an idea here).
literally there are SO many. surely the duffers, who i regard as very competent writers, could have thought of at least one of these to 'soften the blow' when byler is made canon.
#byler#stranger things#byler endgame#mike wheeler#will byers#stranger things season 5#stranger things 5#stranger things thoughts#will x mike#mike x will#byler season 5
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I don't have the time for another fic or snippet or whatever but I had an idea. Drummer!Steve, right? And a common thing I'm seeing in that is that Gareth knows and is the one that taught him or got him started on the basics or told him where to go for gear... But what if... Envision with me...
Steve Harrington played the drums in middle school. He was a dramatic band kid and sports-type hybrid. He's the only drummer his school has and he's really good so administration makes it work with sports things cause sports & arts grants would really help the school and looks good at fundraisers so they need him but other kids think it's special treatment cause the Harrington name. Anywho, Steve is starting 8th grade and administration is in a bit of a tizzy over finding a new drummer for band stuff to replace him after graduating cause no one else wants to pick it up.
Enter Gareth. He's technically one of the flute (or violin Idk which I'd prefer for this) kids but Steve catches him playing around with his set after school one day. Steve convinces the kid to learn how to play drums for the rest of the year and through summer so next year he can try out for band again and take over as drummer. Gareth takes it but doesn't want anyone to know he's getting all buddy-buddy with Harrington cause he JUST got the guys who were in the talent show last year with a metal song to notice him and include him in their little tight-knight group and he WILL NOT let Steve Harrington of all people ruin that for him.
Fast forward a few years and Eddie survived the Upside Down, the rest of Corroded Coffin got read in while helping take care of the aftermath. Everything is okay and good and over now. But Gareth has a kind of fucked up hand. Jason Carver injured it and it never managed to heal quite right in the everything that came after. Thanks to government cover-up medical care there's a way to fix him up but it'll take time and as Eddie and the rest of Corroded Coffin keeps lamenting, C.C. has gigs to play and demos to record and- and- and- and Gareth asks if Eddie will shut up if he can come up with a replacement drummer.
Eddie and the band are hesitant until Gareth admits it's the guy who taught him to play and the guy is probably still just as good, if not better than him. So they have to promise to not replace him with the guy if he can convince him to help them out. Corroded Coffin swears on Dustin's mother (Claudia Henderson is a goddess amongst mortals and once she got read in put Joyce Byers to shame in her audacity dealing with the government bullshit) to not replace Gareth if he can bring this mystery drummer by next practice.
Gareth lets them into the garage next week for practice telling them his temp will be there any minute. As everyone else is finishing setting up a burgundy BMW pulls up, not unusual cause sometimes Steve will come by practice with snacks and just hang out while killing time between work and dealing with the kids. And the Steve that steps out of the BMW has an armful of food that's probably delicious but Freak notices that the hand that lifts for his signature little finger waggle of a wave has something else in it. He turns to Gareth with a giant grin on his face who turns bright red and grits out for him to not say a word.
"Heya guys, hear you need a drummer?"
Eddie's face falls. "No." He desperately turns to Gareth, "Please tell me this is just another very niche dream of something that will never happen to me in my waking hours." Gareth can't.
And Idk, Jeff and Freak don't quite believe that he's that good cause it's been a few years and Steve plays one of their originals making Eddie practically drool but everyone else is too flabbergasted to give him shit.
And somewhere between practices and Gareth finally letting himself be adopted by Steve (partially cause he is peak older sibling vibes but also it drives Eddie mad the guy he's falling for basically being one of his best friend's older brother. Idfk) Eddie and Steve figure their shit out and start dating. Maybe with a jealous Dustin cause HE adopted Steve first, how dare Gareth come and steal his rightfully shanghaied older sibling/best friend?
That's all I got. Someone take this and go crazy.
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I thought I was done being disappointed in stranger things. Falling out of love with a hyperfixation that brought me so much joy already sucked, but the whole Noah Shnapp shit really ruined it for me. I wasn't planning on watching or supporting season 5 anyways, but finding out Argyle won't be in s5 has really stripped away any want still buried deep in my brain man, like I'm not even slightly interested in watching illegally now. (I wasn't planning on it but curiosity is strong sometimes)
Jonathan was my favorite character, and Argyle is SO important for his character. Like putting aside how important Argyle was to the plot of s4, his importance to Jonathan was reason enough for him being there since Jonathan NEEDED him.
Argyle was the ONLY relationship he had that didn't have expectations. He could be free and loose and himself around Argyle. This isn't hate towards Will or Joyce or Nancy because he loves them and the story likes to ignore it but those relationships all come with expectations that the story has hinted at being hard for Jonathan to manage.
He loves his brother and his mom but the role he was forced into so young has really damaged him and how he views himself. The expectation to be a fatherly figure, an authority figure, a protector. I know Jonathan doesn't mind doing it because he loves his family but it's a lot of pressure and if s4 told us anything (again, even if the story likes to gloss over it for some reason) that pressure was too much for him.
And I LOVE Jancy, I love Nancy, but again s4 told us directly that in some way he feels a lot of pressure with her. He feels the need to give up on his dreams in one way or another, because it's either he goes to college with Nancy doing something he doesn't exactly wanna do, or he doesn't and he loses his girlfriend. He fears communication with her because she might get upset, at the end of s4 you can see that while he trusts Nancy and doesn't think anything is going on with Steve because he also trusts Steve, we can't deny the writers might do some lame ass love triangle bullshit this next season which will put even more pressure on Jonathan because now he might lose his girlfriend to his previous bully 🧍♀️
Argyle was SO healthy for Jonathan's character! He helped get Jonathan out of his comfort zone in some ways, in all 4 seasons with Argyle Jonathan was the most free and silly and acted like a teenager! He could just be a teenager with Argyle. He wasn't a supportive big brother or boyfriend or oldest son or any of the stigmatizations from his home town with Argyle, he was just Jonathan. Instead of worrying about taking care of Will, or getting a job to help pay bills or (at the time) fighting monsters, he was playing golf in the middle of a car dump with his best friend, getting high in their pizza van and having fun. I dunno, I just think it's a shame we're taking away his only friend that he isn't dating or related to.
I also fear that the did it for a reason of pushing the love triangle because let's be real if Argyle was there Jancy would just communicate. Argyle wouldn't stand for them dancing around each other and Steve being an issue he'd be like 'talk it out 👏🏼👏🏼'
Again this isn't even MENTIONING how important he is to the plot of s4 in general? Some people say he was just the comic relief and while he definitely played that role, he also is the reason half the main cast are alive?? Without Argyle; will, Mike and Jonathan would be dead! They would have no escape from the government SHOOTING THEIR HOUSE AND TRYING TO KILL THEM. they would have no transportation to find El, they'd have never even found El! They'd never have found a place to make a bathtub so El could save max, they'd never have made it back to Hawkins! He is an important character not just to Jonathan (because while I adore their friendship and this post may make it seem that way) HE IS NOT AN ACCESSORY TO JONATHAN! He was a fun character, a relavent character!
They could have done so much with him, imagine how he could have interacted with other characters? Character pair ups that could have been awesome? Steve and Argyle would be SO FUNNY! Argyle and Dustin, Argyle and Lucas bonding over neither being fucking white, Argyle and Robin being a comedy duo, Argyle and fucking Nancy having a conversation as Jonathan best friend and girlfriend respectively, or Argyle finally just meeting the girl he's heard about for a year- i dunno the possibilities are endless and the duffers are lame for not doing ANYTHING with the potential of these characters.
Oh well, I lost respect for Stranger Things a while ago, but a part of me is still passionate about the story being told and it really is a shame for Jonathan's character. But I shouldn't be surprised the writers have always kind of hated Jonathan. Those stonathan moments better be great I guess, I dunno I won't be watching it 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
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An older piece, “Worlds Together”
A play on Worlds Apart, a song from S4 :)
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This is a small theory I had so I won't count it as a main one (those I talked about in my "survey") but I wanted to point it out.
I was rewatching stranger things season 4 when I noticed AND remembered something.
In the last episode when Steve talks to Nancy in the Upside Down, talking about the dream that he wants six little nuggets and everything, he also said that he used to crawl backwards when he was a baby. In his two arms and two knees he was crawling, but not to move forward, but to move backwards.
So then, I remembered that The Duffers posted some tweet on Twitter back at the time when the filming for stranger things 5 didn't begin. They were still writing I think, but whatever, they posted the title of the first episode and it's called "The Crawl." Maybe we can connect the scene from ST4 and the title of the first episode of ST5. What if people or Steve, specifically, needs to do some sort of crawling, backwards, like he said, either to escape something, either something else. Since going backwards means going back to the beginning, going back to the past... something could happen with that? I'm not sure what exactly but it could be like some past events that we will be remembered, or past events that we will discover and that didn't appear directly in season 1. Or even something else.
I didn't see anyone talking about it, or maybe I'm just blind? Probably. So tell me your thoughts about this little theory!
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