#sw discourse

[phoenixyfriend]

Between “our people should stop killing each other” and “we should burn and raid villages for fun” I can’t believe fandom at large decided Satine Kryze was in the wrong

One time a person on discord asked me why people hate her so much and I just thought of this post and could only answer "white."

I came back and elaborated later but yeah, there's this weird insistence on applying a Watsonian lens to the creative team's racism (and budget limitations) for Satine and TCW, but applying a Doylist lens to the same for Jaster and Open Seasons.

[bluntblade]

It's truly wild to flip from Tumblr "this tragic mistake by a noble Jedi, committed with good intentions, is character assassination of the very idea of Jedi" to Twitter and find "the trouble is that Disney writers are too prejudiced against the Empire to see all the good it did"

[thedujifuji]

it’s always bothered me that jacen doesn’t have more twi’lek features- bro is supposed to be HALF Hera?? why doesn’t he have like- some form of green vitiligo, or male twi’lek eyebrow bumps, or like Lekku??? Couldn’t he at least get like nubs or something like a tiefling???

[thesesnakesaremyfriends]

people who get weird about the baby are so strange to me. like sorry if you've never before encountered the incredibly common symbolism of baby = the future. couldn't be me.

if bix was just shown with no kid (= no future) the scene would have a very different tone! if she was instead shown with other people's children we wouldn't get the angst of knowing it grows up without a dad.

[commander-fox-enthusiasts]

Every-time I think about a Fox ship I don’t get the appeal of I think about when people make the argument ‘they haven’t even met in canon’/‘they hate each other in their one canon interaction!’ and remember how dumb that idea is.

This man deserves everyone

[the-irreverend]

There's LITERALLY no excuse to continue using technology that has ruined people's careers and livelihoods just to make a bloody painting.

[starwarsbutmakeitgay]

Other people: fighting over whether Cassian should be with Bix or Jyn, people arguing over whether canon should matter when it comes to shipping

Meanwhile, me: If Luke and Cassian had met they would’ve kissed. They should kiss. I’m going to draw them kissing

[falllpoutboy]

also i wanna know how disney got away with hijacking what the rise of skywalker was supposed to be bc there’s absolutely no way jj abrams came back for that and theres no way thats chris terio’s original script and story lol

[rainybearstudio]

Been a hot minute! Coming back to my roots :)

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[thedujifuji]

he looked like he was from a ps4 game

[velvet4510]

The Star Wars prequels are full of not-so-good dialogue but there’s something about “You are in my very soul, tormenting me” that just hits so hard because it fits so many classic ships so well. (to be specific, it’s such a Cherik-coded and Drarry-coded line tbh.)

[marveltaughtmetoread]

I've spoken about it before but I'm gonna speak about it again, the Jedi being taken as babies and being raised inside the Jedi temple with little connection to the outside world (as in having a relationship with non-Jedi folk) where the only way to leave is to cast aside the Jedi is wild

The only real world comparison you can make is monks, because holy temple full of people specifically dedicated to that religion, trying to live separately from the outside world, but

Monks aren't chosen because of their abilities, they choose to pursue a life of priesthood because of their faith

And sure, the monasteries and convents were a dumping ground for noble family's (extra) children, meaning the child had somewhat of a mixed consent to the process but in this day and age they are just a place where you pursue your faith

But even then the recruitment process was flipped, monks weren't actively recruited by the temple, it was still a life you had to seek out or your parents had to push onto you, it wasn't something you were forced to join from infancy

The places that don't let you choose to leave that give you no other option, that you can be born into and not escape from, without losing everything you have ever known, are what we call cults

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

The densest substance in the universe is the minds of people who rant that Hordak being enslaved and abused by Prime does NOT excuse Hordak's villiany, and then in literally the next paragraph demand for people to forgive Catra's villiany... due to her being enslaved and abused by Hordak.

these people also say the same for glimmer.

"glimmer knew shadow weaver was a manipulator, it's her fault that she got manipulated!" first off, that's not how manipulation works. secondly, catra also knew shadow weaver was a manipulator and she still got manipulated.

the double standards in this fandom is crazy. if you're gonna hold hordak accountable for his actions, which you should, you should be doing the same for catra. you can't pick and choose.

[mearchy]

I actually think I put my finger on the thing that most bothers me about the perpetual pro vs anti Jedi discourse, which is that everybody argues for their interpretation of the Jedi as though the Jedi were a monolith. As though there were not 10,000+ of them spread across multiple temples, from many different homeworlds, with unique paths and individual connections to the Force. It doesn’t seem right to me to assert absolutes about what the Jedi code Actually Meant and whether it was too dogmatic or applied correctly by the Order or whatever when I think we can see in canon that you would get different answers about its meaning and application from the Jedi themselves, even the ones that inhabited and learned in the same temple. I feel like that’s the point of a lot of what we get shown in the prequels and TCW.

[underwaterspiderbird]

there’s no such thing as “light” or “dark” sides of the force, there never was. its all just different expressions & experiences of the same energy field. “falling to the dark side” is but a religious scare tactic akin to “you’re good and are going to heaven if you believe what we believe but if you don’t you’re gonna burn in hell for all eternity”, no amount of palpatine’s generation of fuckery, the psychos within the sith that could also be found within any group of ppl, or jedi worship will ever convince me otherwise.

suck it bitches

[kaxtwenty]

I don’t wanna be too negative about a show that just came out, but I do think it’s really funny how The Bad Batch—a show with barely ANY Jedi or significant uses of the Force—seems to have a better understanding of the Jedi and the Force than both Ahsoka and The Acolyte.