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Maybe it's an unpopular opinion, but I prefer the Gigantes as children of Gaia and Tartarus instead of being Ouranos's spawns born when his ichor fell on Earth.

And it isn't only because I like the idea of Gaia and Tartarus having more children than Typhon, this being one of the reasons why I lean towards the take that Echidina and Kampe are their daughters, but also because I have a hard time imagining the Gigantes don't causing chaos and defying the gods for enough time to come to the point where Heracles would have been born and started his own hero's journey. The little I got from his personalities + my own personal opinion make me think they would:

I. Make the Golden Age not so golden unless Kronos found a way to put them on a leash, or make Gaia hold them back to not tarnish the image of his rule.

II. Help the Titans fight the Olympians.

III. Immediately or at least, don't wait so many years to wage war against the gods.

Sure, maybe they were already messing around, just not to the extent they would on the Gigantomachy or noteworthy enough to gain myths (iirc). But, they are so powerful and aggressive that imo they would quickly attract attention and destroy their way until them and the Olympians start to throw hands. They wouldn't need to Gaia urge them to wage war, just that she gives birth to them and let them develop enough that sooner or later (probably sooner), they would attack the gods.

Because of the reasons above, plus some others I don't think it's necessary delve into, I like that Rick chose the least popular origin in which they are Typhon's full siblings -children of Earth and the Stormy Pit- and will treat them as such in most of my fanworks.

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GuitarEvil is the name of their ship. Assuming you believe she is Eve then you can include AdamEve and Flowertunes too. Honestly, I like both versions of the ship because the idea of Adam pulling an evil eldritch abomination is hilarious.

Canon Adam and Roo interaction

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Adam and Eve reunite on hell, thousands of years ago.

"You look terribly." The first man finally says something after a time of silence in which he just looked at her with a inexpressive face.

On the second extermination, actually the first official one since the agreements were made after heaven dealed with Lilith's uprising, he and his bad girls started their hunt in the exactly moment they left the portal. He would be taking part of the fun, although it wasn't nearly as much funny as it would be to him thousands of years later, but there was something or better saying someone who took his attention.

Eve.

"And you look like a joke." She also gives her opinion. "What are you trying to do, cosplaying you and your new women heaven gave you as demons like us?"

He saw her watching after her voice invaded his mind, calling him from afar. After that he couldn't simply continue and ignore her, so left the command to Lute for now.

" I was always a joke to you. How I and my women dresses it isn't your businesses." He says bitter, his fists clenching harder. "What do you want, Wasted Rib?" He uses her old nickname, what he started to call her after she listened to Lucifer and caused the fall of humanity.

"I want to talk Adam, please don't simply go away and ignore me again. You owe me this." She tries to approach.

"Huh? What makes you think I was ignoring you?" He enters in guard, making Eve stops right there as if he would attack for getting too close. "That I simply chose to go away? That I owe anything to you?" His voice leaked rage after the last rhetorical question.

"Don't you think I deserve a talk as the mother of your children and wife you fought together with against the world?" She sounded insecure about what she might hear from him.

"You talk as if I had choice about having children and fighting together with you against the world." He grumbles, but then he adds. "What the fuck you want?"

"You wern't complaining about it, well you weren't when we're making our children and about being married with me at first." She throws in his face.

"It was before you cucked me with Lilbitch and her little whore and there wasn't any other hole for me to stick in, so now go directly to the point or I abandon you like you said I did or treat you like our useless descendants that are being killed right now!" Adam screams. Out of rage he blast a construction out of existence making Eve jump out of surprise.

Instead of let her fear take over, she remembered that she needed to talk and that Adam may be a very angry angel now, but he never hit her in life and she believed he wouldn't do it in death.

"It's about them, our 'useless descendants' you're slaughtering. At least in part." She says with a very serious tone.

"Oh, are you going to judge me for it? At least you have more right of doing it than your girlfriend, do you believe that fatass slut called those sinners her people and tried to put shame on me for erasing them as the mistakes they are?" He chuckles, the memory was both amusing and annoying him in equal measure. "How she dare!? I guesss she is really trying to fill the void left by her nonexistent children hahahahahahahahaha!"

"Yes Adam, I will. What the fuck you were thinking going Cain on them!? Although comparing you with my son would be an insult because he never killed as many people as you do! They are our family Adam, how could you do it?" Her angry tone gained notes of pain in the end.

"Someone needed to put them in their place. After Lily encouraged them in uprise against heaven something had to be done and now I'm securing they never do it again."

"There must be better days of doing it, did you all on heaven considered in try to save us instead of simply leave us alone here where we would only get worse and worse?" Eve questions the angels. "For God's sake, if you all were so afraid about Lilth trying it again why don't you replaced her for someone thrustworthy?"

"Don't look to me like that; for me we would have erased her, her bitch, their friends, lapdogs and most of all hell, but Sera and most of Lucifer's older siblings were mericiful" Adam scoffs.

"You talk as if your idea was so much better." The second woman says with a mocking tone.

"Heh, did you wanted us to bombard all hell leaving this seven-layered scar devoid of any life?" He also uses a mocking tone to annoy her. Considering Eve got angrier it was effective.

"Urgh! Can you even hear yourself Adam?!" She wanted to pull her own hair out of frustration.

"Perfectly."

".....You really aren't the man I was married with."

"Funny you say this considering that the First Mistake said the only difference is that now I have more power and can act on my whims on a bigger extent than before." His last talk with Lilith pass through his mind. "Talking about her, why you aren't with our former neighbors you were too friendly with? I thought you would jump on the opportunity of get back together with them." Curisoty could be felt on his voice.

"This is why you never searched for me?" She looks him into his eyes, her own trying to pierce through his mask and see his soul. "I couldn't simply get back together with Lilith and Lucifer even with them wanting me on their side, not after seeing the consequences of the Forbidden Fruit and how Lilith used my children as an army against heaven and Lucifer did nothing about it."

Her look made Adam unconfortable, who looked away before answering.

"In part."

"What was the other reason?"

"To begin with, hell is forever whether we like it or not. You all had the chance of being better, now you're going to boil in the pot." He simply says.

"What makes you so sure? If angels can fall why demons can't ascend?"

"I dunno, the Elders said things are simply black and white that way."

"And you simply listened to them without further ado!?"

"Yeah? Look, I don't know how things work, but they must be the beings who have an better idea about it if compared to everyone else since they are the closest to their creator." He mentions the Good worshipped by the angels.

"I can't believe you simply listed to those six who abandoned us to our own luck on Earth and now you're abandoning your own family to their own luck on hell!"

"I didn't abandon my family; from my perspective the only losers sent there are your little bastard and his spawns and those who didn't listen and followed his example" He then points to heaven on the red sky of hell." "My family is up there with me!"

"....You don't consider me your family? This is the other reason why you didn't try to look back for me, Addy?" Eve looked like she was about to cry.

Adam felt like he received a hit, but he quickly recovered.

"You are, for better or worse you're the person who knows me the most and because of it, for everything we went through with, I ain't going to treat you like any sinner now and kill you." He is sincere.

"So why you left me to rot on hell?!" Now she was crying.

"Because I'm not going to lose paradise a second time for you. They told me I couldn't bring you with me, but I could fall into hell to be with you if I so wished." Adam admits, admit that he actually tried to talk on her behalf, then he was finally presented a choice between be with Eve and his happiness he choose his happiness.

"I guess it's already obvious what you chose." She tries to wipe away her tears.

"Needless to say about the details." He agrees. "Are you finished? I have a work to do and you took too much of my time, I don't want MY GIRLS to have all the fun."

"I should try to stop you, for my children. " Eve seemed to seriously consider attack Adam.

"You aren't strong enough for it, now be a good girl and sit down." Without giving her a second glance, Adam flies away in high speed to the direction of the current hunting field of the birds of heaven.

From afar, his second ex wife screams.

"I HATE YOU!"

Adam simply ignores and start to blast all sinners he see with holy light, eventually summoning a golden axe out of thin air to butcher them.

"Me too, Eve, me too...." He whispers with a distant look on his face, his body acting automatically meanwhile his mind was on another place.

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Context: Let's imagine that Adam didn't eat the Apple, having been excluded from the "free will plan" by Lucifer and Lilith and that Eve really cheated on him with them, something he was already aware of since Eden because he caught them on a comprimissing position before the Elders arrived to punish the trio. Regardless of don't having eat the fruit of knowledge, he was still sent to Earth with Eve against his will because after the original sin was committed and evil found it's way into the world it was a path of no return, so heaven couldn't start from scratch like they did when Lilith rebelled. Also, they wanted to punish them by forcefully separating Lilith and Lucifer from Eve before casting them into hell, put her a situation in which she would be stuck with Adam, who wanted to be with her as much she wanted to be him.....actually, maybe he wanted to still be married to her even less than she wanted, but the Elders also punished him because they considered Eve his responsability so they blamed him, even if not nearly as much as they blamed Forbidden Fruits trio.

How Adam left Eve? Simply, after being stuck with each other for years on a death world where he had a teeth-clenched teamwork with her, he simply left her to rot on hell after they both died and went to their respective afterlives. Like, he didn't even look back for her and started to have fun on heaven, taking full advantage of all the luxury and freedom he now had and then letting himself ago as a form of overcompesation for everything he had lost. If they met each other again, it was likely on an extermination or reunion in the embassy and needless to say that it wasn't preety. Eve wanted help, but for Adam hell is forever and he didn't have any intention of give up heaven for her, thinking she wasn't his responsability anymore too. He maybe thought she would get back together with Lilith and Lucifer but it wasn't the case because at this point she also held a grudge against them and started to live on her own corner of hell.

1. You thought Eve left Adam somewhen when they were alive or took very seriously the until death did them apart of their marriage, so it would be a surprise to you discover that in the end it was Adam the one who left.

2. You think Adam had all the rights of abandon Eve after everything she did and how he suffered because of her actions. Between the two, you feel more pity for Adam and thinks that even if she was alone, don't getting back together with Lilith and Lucifer as expected , "why Adam should care?". She humiliated him and ruined his life so It's fitting that when he have the chance he do what he already wanted to do years ago: abandon Eve.

3. You understand why Adam feel a grudge for Eve, but believe it was wrong of his part leave her to rot in hell. She eat the forbbiden fruit? Yes, but she didn't do it with the malicious intention of curse creation and ruin his life. She cheated? Yes, but this isn't something worthy of hell and their marriage turned out to be as much of a punishment to her as it was to him. In your opinion Adam should at least feel some respect and sense of debt for her as mother of his children and/or someone he fought together against a world indifferent to their suffering, helping her with something even if he doesn't to be with her ever again. She deserves the bare minimum at least for basic human empathy and/or old times sake, assuming everything they went through meant anything to him.

4. You believe that Eve committed a mistake but didn't deserve to be damned to hell for all eternity or maybe don't think she did anything wrong at all, with Evil entering the world being an accident she shouldn't be condemned for and that Adam deserved to be cheated on, if not more precisely that Eve had the right to cheat since she didn't chose him as her husband.

5. You're disappointed because you thought that even if Eve cheated Adam (and he knew), he forgave and willingly left Eden for her.

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1. "Think about the lost opportunities. What if Adam had found forgiveness on his heart and was at least willingly to try what Eve, Lilith and Lucifer offered to him? Or what if Lilith and Lucifer instead of try to sneak after Eve behind his back, they tried a better and harder approach, trying to tempt both at the same time?"

2. "At this point Adam is really the orchestrator of his own suffering. If he was less stubborn and listened to Eve (and by extension Lucifer and Lilith) maybe there would be a chance he would understand why both his wives left him for Lucifer and rebelled against heaven.....oh well, Lilith left and Eve probably tried in vain if Abel and the rest of humanity is something to go by."

3. "What the fuck Eve, Lilith and Lucifer expected would happen after they (double?) cucked him?! Were they trying to make a experiment about if Adam would be less of a dick (in their opinion) if he gained free will (knowledge of good and evil); or they actually thought that everything would be fine in the end, with Adam joining the Forbidden Fruits team and maybe even become a quad with them!? They clearly underestimated the damage they had caused and Adam's pride."

4. "Honestly I thought freeing humanity was in part freeing Eve from Adam in Lucilith's mind, so they gave her a magic apple (and became the first homewreakers in the way). I didn't expect they or at least just Eve actually tried to free Adam too, so I would be more surprised than anything."

5. "Smug because I already knew that they (or at least Eve) tried to give free will to Adam, meanwhile most thought they simply abandoned him on Eden."

6. "After that I would start to ship Applecore/Eden Poly as something that could have happened and be into the idea of them ending up together. Would be a very fitting end if despite everything, the four are drawn back together thousands years later and the first rebels finally manage to make Adam accept Free Will, turning a page of a very old book." Basically a more hopeful version of the first version in which you ship Applecore and still believe and/or want the ship to be an endgame canon.

7. "Laugh and joke about it. Like, Lucifer actually tried to catch all the three starters just to fumble hard with Adam because he chose some very bad decisions on the dating sim he was playing on Eden? Lmao, I will never look at him or anything related to Eden the same way!"

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Adam and Eve talk about the elephant (Cain) in the room.

He was where she expected to find him. After putting the children to sleep, Eve had gone after Adam and there he are, outside home and looking at the night sky with that grumpy face. He didn't smile as much as before, specially to her.

"Adam...." Eve calls him.

"What do you want?" Her husband didn't even look back at her.

"We need to talk, it's about Cain." She says with a serious expression, having found strenght to have this talk and taking advantage that it was only the two of them now.

"Sigh, what's your son's problem?" He suddenly felt his energy being drained off and stress started to burn, he would need to put some effort to give her any attention and even to not snap at her.

"You."

"Oh, can you explain me, why?" Mockery was detected.

"You know why!" She tries to hold back his anger. "Adam, you see how he look like when you're with Abel and his siblings. He is envious and for good reasons, since you barely give him the time of the day."

"And why is this my problem? He isn't even my son! I'm already doing enough, giving and teaching him enough to him survive by allowing the brat to live under my roof with MY children where he get food and shelter.

"This isn't enough! Cain needs a father, and you're the only one who can do it...." Suddenly Adam jumped from where he sat and on heavy steps walked in high speed until where Eve was, interrupting her.

His golden eyes looked into her red eyes, that formely were green, with such a burning rage that made her shut up.

"How you fucking dare ask it from me!? He isn't my son, never will be and I won't pretend the contrary! Did you really think you can order me to love your bastard as if I'm obliged to it?!"

"Adam, please, I'm asking........"

"To raise and love the son of the person I hate most as if he was my son! Sorry, not sorry sweety, but only the first part is possible and is already hard enough." He opens a sarcastic smile.

They remembers clearly of the day she gave birth to the original bastard. They had to figure out for themselves about how to do a childbirth like basically everything else since they were banished and this was one of the most scary moments for both of them. The pain, cries, all this bloood, etc, with the only examples of what was supposed to be done being the animals. The fact that they had to do it again and again crossed their minds in the heat of the moment, but they had more urgent issues to deal with.

When Adam was holding Cain in his hands Eve never felt so much afraid, as if Adam was cruel enough to hurt a baby, even one whose mere existence offended him, but the look he was giving the newborn wasn't reassuring for her. There was so much rage there, but also sadness and dissapointment after the surprise ended and he got the situation. That blonde baby with white skin, red cheecks and angelic aura obviously wasn't his and he knew exactly who is his father.

Heaven only resolved to send some angels after Adam and Eve did most of the work, appearing exactly when the mother was asking to the stepfather calmly give her son, just to strip off the nephilim of his powers and let him crying with his family. Adam took advantage of the moment to let Eve alone with Cain to think alone and only appeared after what seemed to be an eternity for his wife, who was starting to think she and her son were abandoned.

"Please, Adam, my son deserve a father....."

"Why don't you ask his father to take care of him?" He interrupts her again.

"You know exactly why! With Lucifer and Lilith on hell, I can only rely on you!"

"I feel sooooooooo beloved~."

"Take things seriously, I need your help!"

"Of course, what you were going to do without me?" He chuckles bitterly, the fact instead of amusing him was making him angry.

"Exactly, we only have each other now. It's us against the world, fighting for ours and our children's survival! I need your help." She approaches.

"Urgh, shut up! I'm alread doing more than you deserve." He gives her the shoulder and walks away.

"Hey, what are you going to do!?" She shouts out of surprise and run after him, grabbing his arm.

With brute force Adam releases himself from Eve's hand, almost making her fall on the ground by accident. For a quick moment he seemed worried for her, but then he came back to his usual mood that vary between boringness and rage, and now he was very angry.

"Take care to not hurt yourself, fucking Wasted Rib. I need some time alone, later I'm coming back to sleep." He returns to the route of his original destiny, nowhere.

"Now!?" She points to the darkness of the night. "It's already too late, it will be too dangerous. If you don't want to talk now It's fine, but let's go back inside." She tries to grab him.

"I can take care of myself, don't talk as if you're worried about me." He avoids his touch.

"I'M WORRIED ABOUT YOU!"

"No, you aren't. You just care about how I can be useful for since you need me." He says with a tired tone.

"I'm the one being treated as an object...." She looks to the ground and kick one rock, before crossing her arms with an uncomfortable expression. "...you only care to how I can be useful to you, objectfying me as some sort of multitasking tool." Her voice turns heavy.

He rolls his eyes and leave her alone.

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It's Lilith, she meant what she said.

Obligatory Swap au

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".......Me too, Lute." He finally says something, the fact he called her by her own name instead of a nickname made her open wide her eyes in surprise. "Specially now that I see how actually valuable you're to me, how valuable I'm for you." His hand touches and then hold hers.

“I’d rather lose the battle than lose you”

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I doubt you hate him more than he hates you, Lucifer.

Actually new content wow (still working on uploading all my old stuff here)

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"One more step and your baby girl is going to be exterminated, Twinkie Star." Adam threats Lucifer.

Finished the drawing now after work xD

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Jealous?

My part of an art trade I did with @chrustlin !!

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Lucifer and Cain have a talk.

Lucifer: "Did Adam ever abuse you?" He sks his son, trying to put an end to this silence.

Lilith left them alone to have a talk, meanwhile she was talking care of the royal duties for the two of them. She knows Lucifer need to have a talk with his long-lost son so she can wait to have her turn with her stepchild that in another life she could have called son and she would be saw by him as his mother as Eve. Too bad that the world was cruel for everyone.

Cain: "No, but he never pretended to be my father. Adam raised me but let clear from early on that I wasn't his son, even when I was too young to understand. For him I was a constant reminder that his second wife cheated on him with his ex and the angel she ran away with." The First Murderer says, still looking up at heaven in the red sky of hell. "After I killed Abel, he said to me my face in front to mom and the angels that he regret don't having crushed me on a rock when I was a newborn before I could harm any of his sons." He clenches his fists and Lucifer looks horrified for a moment, rage sparking in his heart.

Lucifer: "You didn't deserve it, Cain. You deserved to have a father, I wanted to be a father but I didn't even know you were my child until you appeared here....and your stepmother is having troubles in giving birth....no one of your siblings survived until now." The Devil looks to the floor as he thinks about how he wasn't present on Cain's life and Lilith's curse given by his own family.

Cain: "I thought it too for a long time as I saw how much Adam loved Abel and his other children on his own way. I was so envious, nothing I did made him accept me as his own. My mother also tried to make us get closer, but this only got him angrier with her and then they fought more." He remembers their fights.

Lucifer: "How Eve was....after me and Lilith were banished? We lost contact with our Evening Star after giving her the Apple. You know, planned to make official our relationship and live in our own corner of Eden, if not somewhere else, but everything quickly went to hell after we unleashed Evil."

Cain: "Bad but it could be worse. Adam wasn't abusive with her either if you're thinking about it, but he held a grudge for having lost everything and being stuck with mother and me on Earth. She tried to make things work between them; so he did too begrudgingly out of a sense of duty, pragmatism.....and also because he was afraid to be alone. I hate Adam, but also pity him." He remembers how miserably he was with Eve.

The Mother of Humanity actually tried to make things easier between them. It was out of some feeling of love she still felt for him despite everything or just pity? Who knows, Cain didn't really understand even now what his mother and stepfather felt for each other and honestly? Regardless of what Eve really feel for him, Adam doubt and refuse to consider the possibility she trully love him because he knows that like him if she could chose she would have left.

Lucifer: "Did your mother ever talked about me and Lilith?"

Cain: "No more than Adam who was cursing your names constantly. After I was old enough to understand things better, my mother had a talk with me in which she told about her story with you and Lilith."

Lucifer: "Did she regret us? "

Cain: "She feel regreat but not remorse. My mother told me that despite everything if she could go back in time she would still eat the Apple, I don't know if she changed her mind after I killed Abel..... I never saw so much rage in her eyes before. I think she hates me now." It hurts him the mere thought.

The way how Eve looked at him, Adam and the angels as she cried, hugging tightly Abel's body, haunted Cain up to this day.

Lucifer: "I see." He reflects for a moment. "Heh, she and Lilith are more similar than people give them credit. " He says with a little of humor, wondering like Cain if Eve hates him and Lilith now.

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Ngl, I pity Adam more than Lilith on this situation.

AU where even after catching Lilith cheating on Adam with Lucifer, the angels just banish Lucifer and still made Lilith be Adam’s wife.

Lilith is resentful and angry for having her love taken away from her. Adam feels betrayed by the two people he cares about and is depressed about being in a loveless relationship. They’re both unhappy with the situation they’re in, but are forced to be the parents of humanity by obligation

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1. Surprising or not, the lack of free will (knowledge of good and evil) is what holded him back of recognize what he did wrong and improve as a person. He probably would have become a better person overall and assuming the Apple didn’t set his fate in stone (damned his soul to hell), he would manage to ascend into heaven after his death and become a more beloved angel than his canon self, being unlikely that he would have suggested the Exterminations. Eve, Lilith and Lucifer may or may not havw started to feel bad about having fucking him up or depending of what you believe about them, are more open about it.

2. Basically the first option but with a twist, he still acts as the canon Adam if not similar enough when interacting with the Forbidden Fruits trio because he hates them. Any empathy or sympathy he developed after eating the Apple (probably because he was tricked) quickly died when discovering (if not already knowing) that Eve cheated on him and all the consenquences of the Eden fiasco haunting the man until his death and maybe even beyond. Basically when you recognize that you wronged someone but you don't admit or admit but don't feel for them out of hatred for what they did that offended you so much. An Adam who is a better person overall but still hold a grudge for his lot in life. Wouldn't be surprised if on current times he already remarried (if he wanted) and now he would be living a good life on heaven, probably ignoring his exes and Lucifer as much as he can.

3. Imagine Adam but with (more well apparent if you think he has) character dephts who knows what he did wrong but out of sheer spite, refuse to admit and improve as person, with all his hatred born of wounded pride driving him to become worse and using all the knowledge of good and evil coming with free will to be a more efficient villain, being more malicious and self-aware than canon Adam. Basically an Adam who get what he did wrong and is overall smarter, but suffered too much to feel remorse and would say that if he could go back in time, he would be worse to Lilith and Eve because they deserve less in his opinion. It's less because of Pride, because he is "fuck!ng Adam!" but because of being more thirsty for vengeance and out for blood for what he lost than anything thanks to being more emotionally intelligent than canon Adam.

4. As someone who believes that Eve is Roo or is being possessed by her, I believe that if Adam had eaten the Apple he would either become the Root of all Evil of this timeline or one of them, assuming Evil can have more than one avatar. It's basically a way more eviler and powerful version of the Adam from the third option whose soul was damned from the moment he ate the Apple and had a "with great powers comes great insanity" moment as he mutated into Roo.

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1. As a refference to the source material, Eve. It's fitting she is the one who frees Adam from his ignorance, something she should have done a long time ago but maybe she tried and Adam denied her offer or she didn't have time for it, because the Elders were too quick to punish her and Lilith and Lucifer.

2. Either Adam swallow his pride and ask Lucifer for help or the Snake swallow his pride and finally do something good for the First Man. Maybe a combination of the two? Anyway, let's Lucifer finish his job because how he can free all humanity if Adam was left behind incapable of of understanding what he did wrong?

3. In a turn of events, Lilith. Maybe she wanted to get back at Adam by forcing or tricking him into eating the Apple, which made him develop a conscience and suffer immense guilty or she actually convinced him with worlds like "Don't want to understand why everyone left you in the end?", touching his sore spots and awakening his curiosity.

4. Eve, Lilith and Lucifer because it started with them, so it will end with them. Together.

5. Roo will finally own the remaining member of the Eden set in some shape or form. Lilith maybe didn't ate the Apple but she fell on her hell and Eve ate the Apple and unleashed her Evil into creation, Adam is the only one missing.

6. Lute because Adam would only eat the Apple if it's mean gaining the means to redeem himself and go back home where she is. Also, I believe Lute's love for Adam would make her go against all she believes if it's mean getting back together with him.

7. Charlie will finish Lilith and Lucifer's job.

8. Writte in the comments who do you think should sucessfully convince Adam in eat the Apple if you don't agree with any option above.

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The moment Adam became disillusioned with love and whateve was wrong with him worsened.

god made me pretty / you made me mean

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If Adam don't come back I don't know If I will continue to watch. Like, there should some seriously consequences for the the death of the father of humanity and his character being delved for me consider still accompain Hazbin Hotel, but he is my favorite and he and the story can do way better with him alive.

Dunno

If Adam really doesn't come back (and no, that interview did not directly say anything about that) I'll have hard time enjoying future seasons

Because Vivziepop introduced a character with charisma, cool song genre and a great potential and lots of connections with lore (if it was just random disposable angel character, I would understand), used him to redirect the show's original plot and vibes... and then she just potentially gets rid of him before she can use him properly. And that's just for the sake of sjw "men bad, mysogyny is irredeemable" agenda. In a cartoon that's all about redemption... (if Angel, Lucifer and Pentious can be sympathetic and/or get redeemed, why not Adam?). You kidding me?

It's honestly Zoophobia all over again, when more and more shallow craracters get introduced with the older ones barely being developed

Also I personally don't care about the Vs, or Baxter

And Vaggie got turned into a completely different character from what was promised since the pilot era (and the plot could have still went literally the same way if vivzie didn't butcher my girl like that, like that the hell?? All the other characters practically stayed like they were, but if course I just had to choose the unstable one as my comfort character)

God this cartoon brings me pain. It never happened with any other cartoon for me. Probably has something to do with how the premise of hazbin hotel is far too ambitious and serious for vivzie's writing to do it justice. And I guess there's a reason for why usually pilots become accessible for the public only after the series come out lol