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As much as I love present mafuena I miss their dynamic in the main story... I like my yuri a lil toxic

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why is Akane here?

spoilers....

I have two theories:

1. He was sent by Kako to find and stop her. He couldn't refuse; he has to follow the clockkeepers' orders. He'll pretend to help her, but in the end, he'll be forced to betray her and return the sand clock to Kako and Mirai.

2. Akane is dead. This is Akane from the first new timeline, the one the clockkeepers made, and when he died he somehow gained an "observer" position with Kako and Mirai. After dying, Akane snuck out of Kako and Mirai's reaches and went off to search for Nene. He wants to help her restore the old timeline. The main reason Akane had to do what the clockkeepers told him before was because he was alive. If he disobeyed them, they could remove his memories and make him a normal human. He wouldn't be able to do anything to help. But if he's dead, they can't do that anymore. Which is why he can sneak off to help Nene.

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Oh hey it's the look of visceral terror towards the fact you're hurting people

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You're both absolutely correct, there are other reasons you could climb into bed with a lover. I was (kinda) exaggerating but that's still on me for not clarifying or considering other possibilites. Sorry!!

epic!Calypso is NOT more innocent than odyssey!Calypso

TW: sexual assault / rape

Sometimes I see people say that epic!Calypso never laid her hands on Odysseus, and that it was only in the original story, which is not true. It's not stated directly, but the implications of sexual assault are still there.

"Soon into bed we'll climb and spend our time" Nobody talks about climbing into bed with their "lover" and isn't insinuating sex. Especially not in the middle of the day (naps exist, yeah, but we both know that's not what she was talking about).

"I'm not your man / Hell no, I could kill you where you stand! I'm no pet, I'm a married man / No, no, I don't belong here! There's something wrong here! I won't be drawn to love in paradise. Not till the end of time, there is no way" Odysseus said no multiple times and she doesn't listen. She's still very affectionate and insists that he's the love of her life, which proves that Calypso doesn't care about his consent, she just cares that he's there.

"Oh, handsome, you may try, but last I checked goddesses can't die! You're adorable, bow down now to the immortal Calypso" She doesn't take his refusals seriously, she calls him cute for trying to say no. There's a clear power imbalance here, and because of that, Calypso views Ody's consent as beneath her or unnecessary. Calypso may love Odysseus, but she doesn't respect him in the slightest.

"Seven years she's kept you trapped out of your control, time can take a heavy toll" It's true that Odysseus is thinking about his dead friends when he attempts suicide, but Athena's line here implies a lot about Calypso. Everything she does with him is completely out of Ody's control; he has no power in this situation. I'm sure you can see the implications of that yourself, especially when it was so clearly rape in the source material.

"Someone arrived today. They said they're taking you away, that you're not mine to save" The way this is phrased makes it seem like Calypso did think Odysseus was hers to save, like she saw him as more of an object to love than a person. And that's all true: she sees him as beneath her, like I said above. I could be reaching on this one, but this line isn't alone, it's added on top of all the other ones. This line supports the other implications.

"Then I am sorry that my love's too much for you, but I'm not sorry for loving you" This is a common manipulation tactic, and Calypso may not be doing it consciously, but she's putting part of the blame on Odysseus. She only loved him, she's not in the wrong! It's Ody's fault for not being able to handle it! That's what she's insinuating when she says that, and I doubt it's on purpose, but she's still doing it.

She did rape Odysseus, and she knew what she was doing (she would have to, based on the amount of times he said no), she just didn't understand why it was wrong. Ody is the first person she's met... ever. She wouldn't know how valuable a mortal's consent is. I'm not defending her btw, she's absolutely in the wrong, I just like to analyze Calypso's actions. She's fun to analyze. Anyways, the point I'm trying to make is... stop saying epic!Calypso didn't touch Ody!! She did!! You can like her without defending her actions!!

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My favourite thing about Odysseus and Poseidon is that nothing would've changed had the roles been reversed

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epic!Calypso is NOT more innocent than odyssey!Calypso

TW: sexual assault / rape

Sometimes I see people say that epic!Calypso never laid her hands on Odysseus, and that it was only in the original story, which is not true. It's not stated directly, but the implications of sexual assault are still there.

"Soon into bed we'll climb and spend our time" When paired with both the source material and the other lines I'll mention, this line gains a sexual connotation. There are other reasons you could climb in bed with someone, but when you consider the context, it's most likely climbing into bed for sex.

(EDIT: I originally said "Nobody talks about climbing into bed with their 'lover' and isn't insinuating sex. Especially not in the middle of the day (naps exist, yeah, but we both know that's not what she was talking about)." This is not true, there are plenty of reasons you could climb into bed with a lover without having sex, which was brought to my attention in the reblogs. I was (kind of) exaggerating to prove my point, but I didn't clarify that I was exaggerating at all, so that's entirely my bad. I also didn't really consider the other connotations of that line, so sorry about this! I do still believe Calypso did want something sexual when she said that, but not everyone who asks to "climb into bed" with a s/o does.)

"I'm not your man / Hell no, I could kill you where you stand! I'm no pet, I'm a married man / No, no, I don't belong here! There's something wrong here! I won't be drawn to love in paradise. Not till the end of time, there is no way" Odysseus said no multiple times and she doesn't listen. She's still very affectionate and insists that he's the love of her life, which proves that Calypso doesn't care about his consent, she just cares that he's there.

"Oh, handsome, you may try, but last I checked goddesses can't die! You're adorable, bow down now to the immortal Calypso" She doesn't take his refusals seriously, she calls him cute for trying to say no. There's a clear power imbalance here, and because of that, Calypso views Ody's consent as beneath her or unnecessary. Calypso may love Odysseus, but she doesn't respect him in the slightest.

"Seven years she's kept you trapped out of your control, time can take a heavy toll" It's true that Odysseus is thinking about his dead friends when he attempts suicide, but Athena's line here implies a lot about Calypso. Everything she does with him is completely out of Ody's control; he has no power in this situation. I'm sure you can see the implications of that yourself, especially when it was so clearly rape in the source material.

"Someone arrived today. They said they're taking you away, that you're not mine to save" The way this is phrased makes it seem like Calypso did think Odysseus was hers to save, like she saw him as more of an object to love than a person. And that's all true: she sees him as beneath her, like I said above. I could be reaching on this one, but this line isn't alone, it's added on top of all the other ones. This line supports the other implications.

"Then I am sorry that my love's too much for you, but I'm not sorry for loving you" This is a common manipulation tactic, and Calypso may not be doing it consciously, but she's putting part of the blame on Odysseus. She only loved him, she's not in the wrong! It's Ody's fault for not being able to handle it! That's what she's insinuating when she says that, and I doubt it's on purpose, but she's still doing it.

She did rape Odysseus, and she knew what she was doing (she would have to, based on the amount of times he said no), she just didn't understand why it was wrong. Ody is the first person she's met... ever. She wouldn't know how valuable a mortal's consent is. I'm not defending her btw, she's absolutely in the wrong, I just like to analyze Calypso's actions. She's fun to analyze. Anyways, the point I'm trying to make is... stop saying epic!Calypso didn't touch Ody!! She did!! You can like her without defending her actions!!

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Reminder that Eurylochus killed the cow as an act of suicide, not because he was stupid and didn't listen to Odysseus!! :)

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I've noticed that some people are very defensive about Kou specifically. I haven't really posted much about him unless I was talking about mitsukou, but I've seen enough.

"He's a nice person, so obviously he could never do anything wrong ever!!" Of course that's not how it works. And I'm not saying he's not nice, but kind people still have flaws. He's impulsive, he's hot-tempered, he talks a lot of big for far too little, he's a bad liar... but all of these are charms that make him, him.

Remember when he force-fed Mitsuba that heart in chapter 98? He was doing that so he wouldn't die or disappear, but he still did that. It's not fair to judge him too harshly for doing that, considering both the circumstances and his (very unhealthy) mindset, but he still did that. He's not perfect, he does bad things, but you can acknowledge that while liking him.

Wake up call for *THOSE* tbhk fans:

Acknowledging that a character has flaws/made mistakes does NOT mean I'm hating on them, nor am I saying I dislike them.

I do NOT hate tbhk characters. I just love to analyze why they act certain ways, what their personality is like, how do their actions affect their character and the others... acting like your fav is perfect just makes them incredibly BORING!!

(She's my exception she's done no wrong I love her)

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Hyperfixated on mitsukou too hard and now it's embarassing to see them together like I love you guys get off my fucking screen you faggots

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Me when I'm reading a cute Mitsukou fanfic but suddenly Mit2uba is interested in photography (now the whole experience is fucking ruined)

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I actually hope the cat doesn't turn out to be either hanako or tsukasa cuz it would be a bit too predictable haha.. maybe just kinda linked to them? Cuz we can't ignore the blatant similarities in design.

Idk I like the idea that Amane/the twins are linked to the clock keepers but without a concrete contract better? And if either of them somehow turned into a servant for the clock keepers it feels less grand/cool..

And a contract bound animal is a pretty interesting idea too! It seems just cooler to introduce a new character rn :0

But in this case Nene's impression of meeting it before cannot be ignored too? It could be explained by this theory I saw on X and find way more interesting than the cat being either of the twins : it could be a déjà-vu impression...and in that case Nene would've met the cat multiple times already and the new TL would've been stuck in some kind of time loop? Maybe that's why she was able to open the door to the boundary, cuz I doubt being acompigned by this servant is enough to make her "undetectable"/pass the door when the clock keepers boundary is usually described as very secretive/ well guarded and restricted to a few people.

Imagine!! It would be so fricking cool if Nene arrives to the clock keepers and then they say..."again?" or "it didn't work out this time either" or stuff like that???

PLEASE LET US HAVE A TIME PARADOX/ TIME LOOP SOLO NENE ARC PLEASE I'M BEGGING IT WOULD BE SO INTERESTING WWWAAAAA

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Now that I've thought about it, I have a theory...

The cat is Tsukasa from the old timeline, not the new one. I think he became a servant to the clockkeepers as a punishment for breaking the big clock.

The reason he exists in the new timeline as a cat, even though we've already seen a different version of him in this timeline, is because he's with the clockkeepers now. As their servant, he moved to the new TL when the other Tsukasa was already born. They're different enough that the cat wouldn't replace the toddler like clockkeeper Akane replaced normal new TL Akane.

I don't think the clockkeepers even had time to bind him to a contract before switching up the timelines, but perhaps there's some time loop thing, where this isn't the first time the clockkeepers have changed the present, giving them that chance. I don't think this theory is very likely, but I'm super interested in finding out who this cat is

Calling it right now that cat is definitely Tsukasa

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Calling it right now that cat is definitely Tsukasa

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volume 20, chapter 99 - february 17, 2023

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that's picture perfect teru by the way if you cant tell bc i couldn't crop it efficiently

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i think mitsuba should be allowed to eat a student or two. as a treat.

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I could explain in like, two sentences but I'm using this as an excuse to yap about my boy :3

Sousuke, who was alive, and Mitsuba, who was artificially made, are different. Tsukasa even says so, when he explains how he "remade" him.

But when Tsukasa created Mitsuba, he used the same soul that was in Sousuke. They have the same soul. Mitsuba's not the same as Sousuke, but we can't exactly call him a "fake" or a "copy" if they share a soul.

Sousuke is, undoubtedly, the real Mitsuba. The question isn't "which Mitsuba is real," it's "is the artificial Mitsuba real enough?"

What’s the “who’s the real Mitsuba?” debate in the manga about? I thought they were just two different people?/gen