#epic odysseus

[aj-acent]

I think one of the most interesting thing about the use of “Ruthlessness” in The Underworld Saga is that in that song Poseidon is …. wrong. the line “you totally could’ve avoided all this if you’d just kill my son” is technically correct, but wasn’t Odysseus’ only option.

What actually lead to his death was his hubris - Gods in Greek Mythology aren’t omnipotent, so if Odysseus didn’t give him name, address and credit card info to the cyclops, then Poseidon wouldnt have been able to track him down and the rest wouldn’t have happened.

idk i think his character is so interesting and i think the musical does such a good just capturing it in the lyricism because like ,,,,, yeah idk this musical has been rotting my brain

[sunshinemayhem]

hermes: "don't thank me, friend-"

odysseus: see, Athena? at least he considers me a friend

athena:

athena: he's your grandfather

[i-live-in-your-vents]

So, as I was listening to the Underworld saga today again (specifically Monster) I realized something. In Monster there is an instrument that sounds a lot like the one used to show that Polites is there/singing (I specifically kept checking Open Arms, since it has the most Polites) it just sounds… more somber, a sad resignation. Where the ones in Open Arms sound lively and full of joy the ones in Monster just sound tired and defeated. I checked to make sure it wasn’t a Poseidon thing, what with him embracing Ruthlessness, and it’s not.

Now, this might be completely wrong, they might not even be the same instrument, I’m no musician, but with how much of a genius Jorge is, I wouldn’t put it past him.

All I can imagine now is Polites watching Odysseus through Monster, begging him to reconsider, to greet the world with open arms, only to realize that Odysseus can’t hear him over the sounds of his own grief and anger. Even if he could hear him, he wouldn’t listen to him. He throws away Polites’ ideology, throws away the part of himself that believed in Polites’ ideology, and all he can do is watch. Watch as his best friend abandons kindness and embraces ruthlessness, watch as he turns himself into a monster, watch as he leaves him in the Underworld, forever changed. The Odysseus he knew, the Odysseus he grew up with (if we’re going by Let Me Be Your Light) is gone. Dead. And all he could do is watch.

[xjulixred45x]

I just realized something...

Eurylochus is the one who opened the bag of winds.

It was something so obvious because of the Puppeteer song and what happened in the ocean saga, but I'm only now connecting the dots.

and honestly? Thats having nerve.

Eurylochus, who made himself look like someone super upright, THE SECOND IN COMMAND, Eurylochus who COMPLAINED to Odysseus about not doing anything against Scylla (a sea monster that was in its natural habitat, fighting would have been suicide) when NOT HE did anything against her, when he was willing to ABANDONE his men on Circe's island and questions Odysseus's leadership skills using THOSE EXAMPLES (look, Ody didn't always do things right, but there really weren't any big losses until the Ocean Saga and he handle them very well)--

the same Eurylochus that if he had not opened the pocket of winds which Odysseus spent SLEEPLESS NIGHTS watching so that no one opened (and told them verbatim NOT TO OPEN) they would not have retreated when they were about to reach Ithaca, sending the entire fleet to where POSEIDON was, WHERE ALMOST EVERYONE DIED, THEY ESCAPED BY A HAIR-

And yet he has the Audacity to say that "if Odysseus wants all the power he must take all the BLAME"? WHEN WAS IT BECAUSE OF HIS STUPIDITY THAT THEY WERE IN THE UNDERWORLD IN THE FIRST PLACE? THE REASON WHY SO MUCH PEOPLE DIED IN THE FIRST PLACE??

I'm not fine guys.

[ghostvibesonly]

THERE ARE OTHER WAYS DID NOT GO WHERE I WAS EXPECTING IT TO OH MY GOD /POS

PENELOPE’S THEME AND INSTRUMENT?? ODYSSEUS BEING QUITE LITERALLY BACKED INTO A CORNER AND HAVING SEEMINGLY NO OTHER WAY TO SAVE HIS MEN BUT STILL NOT BEING ABLE TO BRING HIMSELF TO GO THROUGH WITH THE ACT (EVEN THO IT WOULDN’T BE A TRUE ACT OF BETRAYAL BECAUSE THERE’S NO ACTUAL CONSENT ON HIS SIDE AND IT WAS SOMETHING HE WAS ABOUT TO BE COERCED INTO)??? CIRCE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BEFORE AND BELIEVING THAT “BECOMING THE PUPPETEER” IS THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP HERSELF AND HER NYMPHS SAFE SO SHE OFFERS THIS “ACT OF PASSION” TO STILL HAVE A FORM OF CONTROL, AND THEN SEEING ODYSSEUS IS NOT LIKE THOSE BEFORE BECAUSE HE’S SO IN LOVE WITH PENELOPE (WHO HE HASN’T SEEN IN 12 YEARS) THAT HE REFUSES HER OFFER AND PLEADS BECAUSE IT’S NOT WORTH IT EVEN THO THATS THE ONLY OPTION HE’S BEEN GIVEN??? HIM CALLING HIMSELF A PUPPET MAKING HER REALIZE THAT THIS CYCLE OF ABUSE AND CONTROL ISN’T WORTH IT ONLY TO COME TO A MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE SHE KNOWS WHAT IT’S LIKE TO BE TRULY IN LOVE AND TO BE HURT, SO SHE OFFERS HIM AN ACT OF KINDNESS INSTEAD???

“Maybe showing one act of kindness leads to kinder souls down the road”

[moonmeg]

"I see a song of past romance, I see the sacrifice of man, I see portrayal of betrayal and a brother's final stand. I see you on the brink of death, I see you draw your final breath, I see a man who gets to make it home alive but it's no longer you."

[svetochey]

fanart i drew of odysseus: updated

[rustic-space-fiddle]

stOOOoooOOOooOOOOORM sTOOOoooOOO-OOOOOOOOOORM 🌊

[owltale]

Odysseus: “Why are my eyes and my heart and my soul so heavy?”

My honest reaction:

[ohlovers]

YOU want your favourite character to be safe and happy. I want mine exhausted, beaten down, covered in scars and blood, made the wretched plaything of a terrible higher power. is that so much to ask.

[college-cryptids]

little sister back at it again with the epic the musical takes

[rashidartt]

When I tell you I laughed so hard

[doriansbutt]

I finally had energy to put actual effort into this one this time….

[ghostvibesonly]

JAY GOT HIS MOM TO VOICE ODYSSEUS’S MOM I’M SOBBING

god listening to the underworld hurts so much more after learning that “fun” fact (genuinely it’s so sweet oh my god but i’m using humor to cope)

“i took too long. I ventured too far while you were waiting”

“I’ll always love you”

[moonmeg]

Didn't get to sketch something out yesterday but I did today so I give you Circe Saga sketch 🤲✨️

[tunguszka20]

Odysseus: I lost my mentor—

Athena: Nah, I just dumped your ass.